Should there be stronger safeguards on sites like Facebook
 

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After the murder of that young girl, who was groomed on facebook, should sites such as these be tightened up. Although I have a Facebook account, I don't use i very much as I prefer sites like this but lots of members on here are also on Facebook, what do you think

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if your privacy settings on facebook are used properly i don't see a problem with it

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Its quite obvious one young girls wasn't shaz

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i know and its horrid what happened to her

i keep an eye on everything that Reece does on the net, facebook, msn etc, i may be classed as being a nosey mum but i would rather be called nosey than suffering the loss of my child

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I would say you are more of a responsible Mum myself Shaz:mosher:

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some people would say i should let him have his privacy, but TOUGH

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I don't think you can do anymore than this Flashy but to warn them of the dangers of meeting someone they have met on these forums.

This girl was 17 though ... sure she had been warned by her parents in the past. It is an age though when you don't tell them everything isn't it ? Sure you didn't let your mum and dad know Flashy who you were meeting at this age. A very sad case.

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Think the main question is why was this guy not being supervised, he as well known to the police, but they lost track of him, ending in the death of a young girl:(

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Great though the internet is it gives perverts like this even more chance to prey on vulnerable people. That coupled with the fact that the police have failed in their duty when he dissappeared are both big factors in this tragic case. You would think that at seventeen the girl would no better than to go off and meet somebody without telling anybody where she was going. Having said that perverts like this will always find a way of getting to victims.

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This is an entirely different side to it though Jaysay .. your original question was about the social networking sites guarding against dangers. How could they possibly know ? Like Flashy says, does have a privacy facility.

Suppose could happen on Accyweb if you think about it.

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We did a while ago.

We had a bloke who was always trying it on with all the girls saying how good he was with the old pork sword. Some of the more gullible ones fell for his tricks until they found out he was a bit of a chav and he was banned. :D

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no matter what safe gurads are put in place it wont stop dimwitted parents putting tehir kids on facebook with their date of birth, a list of their friends and mothers name for pedophiles to see so that they have all teh information they need tro trick a child into believing what they say to be true and also a selction of photos for the perverts to drool over

thank god some parents have enough about them to actually set privacey settings and restrict what their kids do on that website but a hell of a lot dont so facebook is basically a pedophiles broucher of delight

common sense by parents is the best safeguard but sdaly there is a severe lack of it :rolleyes:

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You can say the same for MSN now they are trying to turn it into mini facebook

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msn used to have social groups way before facebook but they shut them down because of pedophiles

now it seems they want some of facebooks action so to hell with their moral stand it seems :rolleyes:

as for facebook i have seen morons setting up acounts for their babys , well i am assuming a 3 month old baby cant create its own account and these are the parents who appear in the news saying thay cant understand why somthing happened to their child


facebook need a damn good kick up the arse as well because at age 13 facebook wil not give parents access to their kids account and refuse point blank to co-oporate with parents regarding tehir childs activity which may not be a problem for some parents but if a parent is having problems with a difficult teenager for example it may be harder finding out what is going on.

before networking sites liek facebook internet bullying was hardly ever heard of and child suicides wernt as frequent

social networking sites shoudl be adult only and a credit card confirmation shoudl be in place to confirm age and identity or somthing along those lines

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What with our new Rottweiler Neil on guard, you have to be joking:D

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Immaterial of whatever the owners put in place there will always be some kind of loophole where people evade & avoid or just simply choose to ignore things set in place for their own safety.

Railways have barriers, it still doesn't stop the idiots ignoring them, next thing you know someone is killed by a train & folk start saying why didn't the company do more. Same thing it appears, but the parents also should take a bit more on board as to what the kids are doing. Prime example flashy keeping tabs on her young'un like a good mum should, despite what the nipper's thinking Mum is looking out for her child well done.

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It does no harm at all for parents to teach their children some basic internet safety rules too....yes, put parental controls in place(this is harder if your child uses a computer over which you have no control, not all parents are vigilant).....make sure that the children are aware of the risks, make sure that they know not to give out any personal information.....and most of all to be suspicious, and report to their parents anything that they are uncomfortable with.(however uncool this might be....better to be uncool than dead)

This girl was seventeen, and should have had a bit more sense.......but the bottom line is this chap should have been on the police radar, and he wasn't.

It is a tragedy, but one from which all parents can take a lesson. We are never ever going to be able to monitor and prevent all the tricks the perverts get up to, but we can give our children help and information that makes them more aware of what can happen.

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With great respect, am not joking Jaysay. Moderators cannot read P.M's so there is still a great danger here. Please do not negate the dangers by proclaiming we have a new second coming of an all omnipotent new moderator, which could give some a false sense of security. Always have to be on our guard and teach our children the same.

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Very sad case but am i wrong in thinking that on Facebook you have to send a friend invite,in so you either know this person or one of your friends know the person?,or can just anyone search on there and add you to their contact list.

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Yes Polly .. but they just think it is fun to collect people, even if they don't know them.

Was in the reference library this afternoon and lots of teenagers in school uniform were on the computers (14/15/16 years).... they were all on Facebook !!

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You are sort of right yes. You have to request and be accepted to be on someones friends list.

There are however groups you can join about things you are interested in and then chat on there. Then you could add someone to your list you met in a group and not someone you actually know.

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cheers for clearing this up:)

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Some of the shared interest groups, particularly fan sites, get very aggressive in the threads.

One girl was hunted down by someone she crossed.

This was in a X-Factor fan group!

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There's still ways of checking people's profiles/photographs, even with enhanced security, and even though they aren't your friend.

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this is where the privacy settings come in Gaz, i have both mine and Reece's privacy set to 'only friends' so only our friends can see our profiles

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Same here.

But if someone posts a photograph, or is even tagged in someone elses, you can get in and look at all their pics, even though their settings are set to private, except for friends.

Hopefully they'll stop this happening soon. I have told them about it.

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We I will stand by what I said to my daughter when she was in her teens and that was:

If you can count your friends on one hand you are very,very lucky:alright:

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I agree, and I'm not counting my thumb.

:D

I recently watched a late night series of programmes about the effect the internet revolution has had on people's lives, and one of the programmes was about social networking sites.

Apparently not only do people have very few 'real' friends, there is a limit for humans on how many people our brain can relate to, and that's 150. They came up with lots of evidence to support this, from the sizes of ancient settlements, to the accuracy of photo fits.

So if you have more than 150 Facebook friends, it's time for a cull.

:D

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Get your coat:D:p

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Facebook warning after Peter Chapman admits Ashleigh Hall murder | Mail Online
This is quite interesting to add to the debate