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Mancie 21-03-2010 21:40
Re: Unions flexing their muscles again
 
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Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 799285)
It's difficult to take an objective view over any strike situation. There are clearly rights and wrongs on both sides of any given dispute. But essentially it is the consumer who suffers, either through lack of service or personal loss. Yes, unions plainly do have a part to play in negotiating what they see as best for their members, but this should never be at an increased cost to those who are often left stranded on the fringe of things when problems become insurmountable through the intransigence of the parties involved.
All very good Stumped and most right thinking people would agree with you.. but where is the line drawn between servicing the public or being shoved into a postion were there is no other option but to make a stand?.. who has the responsibilty to serve the customers?.. the workforce or the directors?

Margaret Pilkington 21-03-2010 21:43
Re: Unions flexing their muscles again
 
There is awlays someone ready to jump into the breech left by those who withdraw their labour.......this was never more true than today when an eastern eurpoean worker will jump at the chance to do the job once done by one of us.

Mancie 21-03-2010 21:54
Re: Unions flexing their muscles again
 
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 799292)
There is awlays someone ready to jump into the breech left by those who withdraw their labour.......this was never more true than today when an eastern eurpoean worker will jump at the chance to do the job once done by one of us.
Very true.. but then again not so long ago a strong union would not allow that.. think about it..umm... I know it that maybe hard work for you but maybe you could order a brain from the pizza takeaway and have it delivered.. (by some ****** from the eastern block)

Stumped 21-03-2010 22:00
Re: Unions flexing their muscles again
 
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 799291)
All very good Stumped and most right thinking people would agree with you.. but where is the line drawn between servicing the public or being shoved into a postion were there is no other option but to make a stand?.. who has the responsibilty to serve the customers?.. the workforce or the directors?
The buck should always stop at the man at the top, after all that's what he's payed for - and pretty well, too by all accounts.

BERNADETTE 21-03-2010 22:05
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 799297)
Very true.. but then again not so long ago a strong union would not allow that.. think about it..umm... I know it that maybe hard work for you but maybe you could order a brain from the pizza takeaway and have it delivered.. (by some ****** from the eastern block)
No need for that Marg always puts forward a well thought out balanced response and insults are belittling you not her Mancie so think before you post:rolleyes:

Mancie 21-03-2010 22:14
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799302)
No need for that Marg always puts forward a well thought out balanced response and insults are belittling you not her Mancie so think before you post:rolleyes:
Yes it was a "well balanced" but if people have the attitude that you work you work till you drop for fear of some eastern european taking your job, then we are really going back to the Victorian age.. an age were most of us would be dead before middle age...some people crave for those times..those people are idiots.

garinda 21-03-2010 23:08
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 799307)
Yes it was a "well balanced" but if people have the attitude that you work you work till you drop for fear of some eastern european taking your job, then we are really going back to the Victorian age.. an age were most of us would be dead before middle age...some people crave for those times..those people are idiots.
They were poor, but they were happy Mancie.

...and a girl with Rickets would be able to cover her unsightly disability, because dresses and skirts were longer in the good old days. So even she'd be happy in her ignorance.

Margaret Pilkington 22-03-2010 11:03
Re: Unions flexing their muscles again
 
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 799297)
Very true.. but then again not so long ago a strong union would not allow that.. think about it..umm... I know it that maybe hard work for you but maybe you could order a brain from the pizza takeaway and have it delivered.. (by some ****** from the eastern block)
Mancie, you do not advance your argument by making cheap jibes.
I do have a brain, I can think, and it isn't hard work for me to think........I don't need to order a brain from a takeaway pizza place.

Before I retired I had a taxing and responsible job.
I would thank you not to insult me to try and win points.
I do not belittle you for your opinions, so please have the courtesy to offer me the same respectfor my opinions.
Oh and just by the way I have no political affilliation, which is why I will take a pin with me to the polling booth.

garinda 22-03-2010 11:17
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 799371)
...which is why I will take a pin with me to the polling booth.
No violence, Marg!

Oh, sorry, the pin's to help you to decide who to vote for, and not a weapon.

Apologies.

:D

Margaret Pilkington 22-03-2010 11:39
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got it in one Gary! :D

garinda 22-03-2010 11:50
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 799382)
got it in one Gary! :D
Phew.

I had visions of you going charging in, with a lethal lookin' hat pin.

:D

jaysay 22-03-2010 14:53
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 799223)
So the "beleaguered" coal miners and steel workers would have been better off if they had towed the line and not questioned any job cuts, pay cuts, worked 12 hours a day under conditions that meant you were dead before your kids?... I don't know how old you are Stumped but I know old Tory "values" when I see them.. go back to living in your dream of the good old days when t'boss at t'mill would send round a loaf of bread if you were off sick for a month.
There was only one winner in the miners strike Mancie that was Scargill, he went into the strike with a big union and a little house and came out of it with a little Union and a great big house:rolleyes:

jaysay 22-03-2010 15:05
Re: Unions flexing their muscles again
 
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 799371)
Mancie, you do not advance your argument by making cheap jibes.
I do have a brain, I can think, and it isn't hard work for me to think........I don't need to order a brain from a takeaway pizza place.

Before I retired I had a taxing and responsible job.
I would thank you not to insult me to try and win points.
I do not belittle you for your opinions, so please have the courtesy to offer me the same respectfor my opinions.
Oh and just by the way I have no political affilliation, which is why I will take a pin with me to the polling booth.
Take no notice of Mancie Margaret, nobody else does, just laugh:D and pull your tongue out:p

Margaret Pilkington 22-03-2010 15:07
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 799429)
Take no notice of Mancie Margaret, nobody else does, just laugh:D and pull your tongue out:p

I am far too much of a lady to do that Jaysay :D

cashman 22-03-2010 15:14
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 799431)
I am far too much of a lady to do that Jaysay :D
yer only copying me as i'm a gentleman.:D


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