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accyman 24-03-2010 09:32

here we go yet again
 
its been on radio 1 news that the same group of idiots not happy with getting smoking banned in public places are yet again putting another push to get smoking in your car banned despite already failing last year they just cant handle teh fact that people will do as they please in their OWN property.

if you dont want to get in a car with somone who smokes get a nice public bus or better still walk and keep walking until you fall off a bloddy cliff.

next they will be getting smoking banned in your own living room and again if you dont like people smoking in their own home sod off somewhere else

jaysay 24-03-2010 09:52

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 799780)
its been on radio 1 news that the same group of idiots not happy with getting smoking banned in public places are yet again putting another push to get smoking in your car banned despite already failing last year they just cant handle teh fact that people will do as they please in their OWN property.

if you dont want to get in a car with somone who smokes get a nice public bus or better still walk and keep walking until you fall off a bloddy cliff.

next they will be getting smoking banned in your own living room and again if you dont like people smoking in their own home sod off somewhere else

Not sure accyman but I think its the Royal college of Physicians that has made the report, although I'm a none smoker, for obvious reasons, I say each to his own. Think the idea is that smoking in your own car when kids are in, it damages their health, in that case its up to the parents own judgement to my mind, whether it does damage the children's health

LYNX1 24-03-2010 09:53

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Amen accyman..........they never know when to quit, do they. Sorry :D

cmonstanley 24-03-2010 11:13

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aye aye and who would implement these laws.its just silly paper talk :D if the goverments concentrated on attracting jobs to these shores instead of wasting time on unmanagable laws

garinda 24-03-2010 11:21

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 799780)
next they will be getting smoking banned in your own living room and again if you dont like people smoking in their own home sod off somewhere else

Oh ye, of little faith.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Merseyside | Home smoke ban for council visits

:D

mallard 24-03-2010 11:29

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I think it will be there loss,they band it in pub,s club,s and look how they are shuting down,so if they ban it in cars,just think what will happen there.

Less 24-03-2010 11:45

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Originally Posted by mallard (Post 799815)
I think it will be there loss,they band it in pub,s club,s and look how they are shuting down,so if they ban it in cars,just think what will happen there.

Don't worry it will be easy to enforce it in car's, just class it as driving without care and attention, the threat of points on your licence will make us tow the line.

After all, now they have been banned, we never see anyone talking on a mobile whilst driving do we?
:rolleyes:

(Texting, yes, talking, good heavens no!).
:D

BERNADETTE 24-03-2010 12:06

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Wouldn't worry about it to much by the time they hike the price of both up this afternoon you might not be able to afford either to run a car or buy a packet of fags:rolleyes:

accyman 24-03-2010 12:17

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speaking of unmanagable laws has anyone ever heard of anyone been done for not having their kid in a child seat lately.When the law first came out there were a few casses but iv heard nothing of it since but not to wory im sure its far more healthy for a kid to go through a car widscreen :rolleyes:

accyman 24-03-2010 12:28

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 799825)
Wouldn't worry about it to much by the time they hike the price of both up this afternoon you might not be able to afford either to run a car or buy a packet of fags:rolleyes:

its about time instead of punishing the british driver the govenment started charging the polish etc road tax because as it stands they work here, live here and drive on our roads yet dont pay our road tax

Ken Moss 24-03-2010 13:25

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 799829)
its about time instead of punishing the british driver the govenment started charging the polish etc road tax because as it stands they work here, live here and drive on our roads yet dont pay our road tax

I don't think that's strictly true. The tax, MOT and insurance laws apply to anyone who is resident in the UK although the foriegn truck drivers are allowed to sweep in and out because they don't actually have a home here. There was quite an informative programme on BBC1 last month about it which painted the police in quite a favourable light as regards clamping down on foreign drivers.

Of all countries, Finland seems to be the one with its house very firmly in order as regards motoring.

Margaret Pilkington 24-03-2010 13:33

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If the powers that be cannot police the use of mobile phones whilst driving, then I think they will have absolutely no chance of ensuring that people do not smoke whilst driving.
Apart from maybe one or two unlucky individuals that may find themselves with fines and points just to make an example of someone.

Less 24-03-2010 13:40

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 799839)

Of all countries, Finland seems to be the one with its house very firmly in order as regards motoring.

Damn those Fin's!

Have they nothing better to do on those long cold Winter nights than to set themselves up as a good example to the rest of the World?

:mad:

cashman 24-03-2010 13:46

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Heard a while ago Finland has the highest suicide rate in europe, so its house i wouldn't really call in order on much.:D

garinda 24-03-2010 13:53

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It's disgraceful!

There should be laws to prevent children from driving, nevermind driving whilst smoking.

:mad:

Ken Moss 24-03-2010 13:59

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 799843)
Damn those Fin's!

Have they nothing better to do on those long cold Winter nights than to set themselves up as a good example to the rest of the World?

:mad:

Finland, Finland, Finland. It's the country where I want to be, I tell you.

Benipete 24-03-2010 14:13

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 799847)
Finland, Finland, Finland. It's the country where I want to be, I tell you.

Happy to help.:):D


Flight schedules : Finnair

Less 24-03-2010 14:24

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 799847)
Finland, Finland, Finland. It's the country where I want to be, I tell you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 799850)
Happy to help.:):D


Flight schedules : Finnair

So long as, IF elected it doesn't appear on you're expenses, I'll even turn up with a tear stained hankie to wish you Bonn Voyage!

:ello:

jaysay 24-03-2010 14:53

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 799858)
So long as, IF elected it doesn't appear on you're expenses, I'll even turn up with a tear stained hankie to wish you Bonn Voyage!

:ello:

Thats the Less we all know and love:worthy:

katex 24-03-2010 15:03

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You have only reported half of the story Accyman .. they are looking to ban in public parks and outside play areas too :eek:

Read a report recently that air pollution is responsible for more deaths than the alleged passive smoking.

garinda 24-03-2010 15:08

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 799874)
You have only reported half of the story Accyman .. they are looking to ban in public parks and outside play areas too :eek:

Read a report recently that air pollution is responsible for more deaths than the alleged passive smoking.

You can't smoke in parks in Glasgow....why do you think I eventually moved back?

:eek::p:D

katex 24-03-2010 15:14

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 799878)
You can't smoke in parks in Glasgow....why do you think I eventually moved back?

:eek::p:D

Really ! Didn't know that ... wonder what prompted them to do that ? Scared of the smoke getting up their kilts or summat ... :D

Ken Moss 25-03-2010 14:19

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 799858)
So long as, IF elected it doesn't appear on you're expenses, I'll even turn up with a tear stained hankie to wish you Bonn Voyage!

:ello:

If I am elected and can claim anything from HBC as expenses it will probably be the biggest achievement of my political career.

I'm wearing quite the wrong colour.....

jaysay 25-03-2010 14:51

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 800141)
If I am elected and can claim anything from HBC as expenses it will probably be the biggest achievement of my political career.

I'm wearing quite the wrong colour.....

Why it didn't make much difference to Hazel Blears:D

yerself 25-03-2010 15:02

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Originally Posted by Less
I'll even turn up with a tear stained hankie to wish you Bonn Voyage!

He's going to Finland not Germany.

Ken Moss 25-03-2010 15:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 800162)
Why it didn't make much difference to Hazel Blears:D

Possibly, but let's look at things in detail.

If I get elected onto HBC I will be the bald upstart who dislodged a Tory councillor from Rishton - this will not go down well with a Conservative council leader.

On the other hand we have the foxy redhead, Hazel Blears, who is Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government that could potentially make a Conservative council leader very popular with voters over proposals for Pennine Lancashire.

Which one would you give money to if they asked?

yerself 25-03-2010 15:07

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
If I get elected onto HBC I will be the bald upstart

You aren't trying to take Tealeaf's title from him, are you? I didn't realise you had to be hairless to be elected to the council.:)

jaysay 25-03-2010 15:29

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 800175)
Possibly, but let's look at things in detail.

If I get elected onto HBC I will be the bald upstart who dislodged a Tory councillor from Rishton - this will not go down well with a Conservative council leader.

On the other hand we have the foxy redhead, Hazel Blears, who is Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government that could potentially make a Conservative council leader very popular with voters over proposals for Pennine Lancashire.

Which one would you give money to if they asked?

You won't have any problems with Peter Ken, my mate Stan will see to that:D

Ken Moss 25-03-2010 18:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 800210)
You won't have any problems with Peter Ken, my mate Stan will see to that:D

There's more than a hint of micturation extraction in that statement, surely????

BERNADETTE 25-03-2010 22:38

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Just as an aside who is the Tory councillor for Rishton?

MargaretR 25-03-2010 22:50

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 800332)
Just as an aside who is the Tory councillor for Rishton?

I found this for you
Councillors - Stan Horne

katex 25-03-2010 23:21

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 800336)
I found this for you
Councillors - Stan Horne

There's two though Margaret ... which one is Ken up against ?

Councillors - View by Ward: Rishton

jaysay 26-03-2010 09:32

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 800344)
There's two though Margaret ... which one is Ken up against ?

Councillors - View by Ward: Rishton

The Winner:D

BERNADETTE 26-03-2010 10:41

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 800336)
I found this for you
Councillors - Stan Horne

Thanks Margaret, Kate Larry is a Labour councillor

Ken Moss 26-03-2010 11:21

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It's Harry Grayson actually, but at least no one is going to forget who he is.

Stan Horne and Jennet Liddle are the two Tory councillors in Rishton although Jennet is stepping down in May.

Unfortunately, most of the people in Rishton don't know that we have three councillors either, which is part of the reason why I'm standing.

Ken Moss 26-03-2010 12:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 800381)
The Winner:D

Have you met him, John??

He was asked to put up whereas I requested to be nominated as candidate, he isn't involved with any of the local community groups in Rishton whereas I am, and his flyer is a crude black and white photocopy whereas Graham has laid out my newsletter and photographs to actually show the work I do in Rishton.

We have a blogspot which I update on a weekly basis with what is happening in Rishton and I work continually with Harry Grayson (our existing Labour councillor and a born-and-bred Rishtoner) in sorting out problems for any residents that get in touch with either of us.

There has been little in the way of canvassing from the Tories (and certainly not with Peter Britcliffe) whereas I have had Graham and the Labour faithful rallying with me on several occasions.

Of course, none of that remotely guarantees me a place on the council come polling day but I would like to think that I am by far the better candidate in Rishton because I already do some of the things which I expect of a councillor.

Until two weeks ago I was prepared for a good clean gentlemanly fight and then I witnessed that his 'canvassing' involves trying to slag me off to the regulars at the Workmen's Club while I'm stood at the bar.

How about some policies and principles instead, or are they unfashionable with Hyndburn Conservatives?

Zeya 26-03-2010 12:33

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Very True

Ken Moss 26-03-2010 14:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 800210)
You won't have any problems with Peter Ken, my mate Stan will see to that:D

Beyond Our Ken and Round The Horne.

Gosh, I'm looking forward to that!


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