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g jones 27-03-2010 20:18

Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
The British Legion one seems to have gone due to the length of time the Conservatives took to select.

Would Accywebbers want a hustings? Possibly the town hall or a club or hall elsewhere could be used.

People should have the opportunity to ask questions and it would be good for the site per se.

garinda 27-03-2010 23:36

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
I like the idea of asking questions of all the candidates.

If it's done in the real world there's always the chance that not everyone gets a chance, of feels able, to ask their question in public.

Why can't it be done online, on Accy Web?

Three of the candidates are already members, and the others could be invited to take part, and told when it's starting.

It could be live, but need not be.

We could post our questions and the candidates could give their answers.

It could have a time limit, so it doesn't drag on and on. A long weekend perhaps.

I'm sure some press coverage could be had, to publicise it, and alert anyone not already a member here of the event.

accyman 28-03-2010 04:04

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
i think it woudl be an excellent idea but heres my proposal for your next question :D

Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hangings?

andrewb 28-03-2010 08:02

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 801045)
The British Legion one seems to have gone due to the length of time the Conservatives took to select.

Would Accywebbers want a hustings? Possibly the town hall or a club or hall elsewhere could be used.

People should have the opportunity to ask questions and it would be good for the site per se.

It's a good idea. I think it should be broadcast by webcast for those who can't attend in person.

Who'd host it? :p

g jones 28-03-2010 08:06

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
There are many public buildings an I am sure if accywebbers are up for it it'll get done. Webcast will broaden the viewing.

garinda 28-03-2010 08:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 801113)
There are many public buildings an I am sure if accywebbers are up for it it'll get done. Webcast will broaden the viewing.

If you want a live one, fair enough.

I do think an 'Accy Web' one, an internet forum, should be online...because that's what this forum is.

What does it matter, who can physically deliver the best answers, or shout the loudest?

It's what's said, not how, that's more important.

shillelagh 28-03-2010 13:10

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
but thats roys decision .. if he wants to host a 'net hustings'

jaysay 28-03-2010 17:58

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
When I first started in politics public meetings was the norm, they seem to have wayned in later years because of wall to wall media coverage, but in the sixties the three main parties Tory Labour and Liberal all had a rally at the Accy Town Hall or Occasionally Ossy Town Hall, think the first meeting I went to was an open air meeting on Accy Market fronted by Harry Hynd the sitting Labour MP who was introducing Arthur Davidson, great fun and very entertaining, the repartee was great

Tealeaf 28-03-2010 18:47

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
No problem. But where is the location and how much will the venue cost to hire? However much, we can only assume that the taxpayer will not be left to foot the bill for what is otherwise an attempt by various individuals to obtain nice, cushy well paid employment for the next five years. I would assume therefore, that their sponsoring organisations - the UNITE union for Labour and Lord Ashcroft for the Tories, togeather with the usual motley collection of oddball pressure groups for the Lib-Dems - will be prepared to financially underwrite this exercise. If not, forget it.

g jones 28-03-2010 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 801350)
No problem. But where is the location and how much will the venue cost to hire? However much, we can only assume that the taxpayer will not be left to foot the bill for what is otherwise an attempt by various individuals to obtain nice, cushy well paid employment for the next five years. I would assume therefore, that their sponsoring organisations - the UNITE union for Labour and Lord Ashcroft for the Tories, togeather with the usual motley collection of oddball pressure groups for the Lib-Dems - will be prepared to financially underwrite this exercise. If not, forget it.

I think you'd get everything for nothing. If not, candidates can make a contribution or 50p on the door?

I think AccyWeb should organise a debate each year. This is our Borough and it is important.

shillelagh 28-03-2010 20:40

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Why should accyweb organise a debate each year?

Accyweb isnt a political forum .. its a forum .. which is paid for by the owner and donations from members.

cashman 28-03-2010 21:03

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 801373)
Why should accyweb organise a debate each year?

Accyweb isnt a political forum .. its a forum .. which is paid for by the owner and donations from members.

gotta agree wi that.

Tealeaf 28-03-2010 21:12

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There are a small number of CIU working mens clubs still around Accy, a couple of which have 'concert' rooms big enough to hold several hundred people; Why not (with Tory/Lib-Dem counterparts) organise something in conjunction with one of these? With free admission on the door I'm quite sure at least one of 'em would jump at the chance to earn a little bit of extra beer sales income on a wet tuesday night in late April.

garinda 28-03-2010 23:15

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 801373)
Why should accyweb organise a debate each year?

Accyweb isnt a political forum .. its a forum .. which is paid for by the owner and donations from members.

If it did, it should be online, because we are an internet forum.

There are probaly lots of people, myself included, who might not be able to physically attend a bun fight in the Town Hall.

I think the internet allows everyone who wants to speak, an equal voice.

If 300 people turned up, and asked just one question each, and every candidate then gave their answer, the meeting would still be in progress when the ballot boxes had long been packed away.

garinda 28-03-2010 23:18

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Perhaps it should be organised by Hyndburn Life!

:yelrotflm:yelrotflm:yelrotflm:yelrotflm:yelrotflm

:bingobang





:D

Tealeaf 28-03-2010 23:35

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Jonesey is an 'owd romantic - in some ways, just like myself. He has an idea in mind of a hall packed with men wearing dirty grey gabardine raincoats and cloth caps on their heads, smoking pipes (or if they're lucky, Woodbines), waving trade Union banners emblazoned with words such as 'Accy & District Shuttle bashers & Snotdyers Union (No 6 Branch)' and 'Workers & Wastrels of the World Unite' while all the time being seranaded by a brass band led chorus of 'The Internationale.'

He makes a tub thumping speech..then arguments rage...bun fights break out...innocent fascists are beaten up and thrown out of windows. A mysterious woman by the name of Buckley rises to speak, but she is soon silenced and disappears....then Jonesey is carried high on the shoulders of his adoring comrades, out into the street as the mass proletariat break into a spontaneous outburst of 'The Red Flag.'

garinda 28-03-2010 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 801448)
A mysterious woman by the name of Buckley rises to speak

A bluestocking no less!

The candidate for The Wealth & Suffrage Movement, demanding the rowdy, unwashed, toil weary rabble quietens down, whilst she makes her heartfelt demands heard, that the idle rich should be allowed a vote too!

She's the only woman, in the packed, smoke filled, hall.

As all the towns' womenfolk are out the back, in the kitchen, making butties, for when a motion's passed that there should be a brief recess.

It's a pity Play For Today ended.

:D

Benipete 28-03-2010 23:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 801387)
There are a small number of CIU working mens clubs still around Accy, a couple of which have 'concert' rooms big enough to hold several hundred people; Why not (with Tory/Lib-Dem counterparts) organise something in conjunction with one of these? With free admission on the door I'm quite sure at least one of 'em would jump at the chance to earn a little bit of extra beer sales income on a wet tuesday night in late April.

Oh dear,Wrong again,Working Men Clubs are not licensed to hold such events.:enough:

garinda 29-03-2010 00:03

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
The Oswaldtwistle Social Club, the redundant Oswaldtwistle Conservative Club, can always find room for bookings.

:D

Tealeaf 29-03-2010 00:08

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801449)
It's a pity Play For Today ended.

:D

Bring it back. Maybe we could have a two hour special on the Accy election....a play directed by Martin Scorsese...starring Robert de Niro as Councillor Jones, Marlon Brando as Councillor Britcliff and Judy Dench as Ms Buckley...it could be fun.

Tealeaf 29-03-2010 00:11

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 801451)
Oh dear,Wrong again,Working Men Clubs are not licensed to hold such events.:enough:

What are you drivelling on about?

garinda 29-03-2010 00:13

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 801455)
Bring it back. Maybe we could have a two hour special on the Accy election....a play directed by Martin Scorsese...starring Robert de Niro as Councillor Jones, Marlon Brando as Councillor Britcliff and Judy Dench as Ms Buckley...it could be fun.

You're so highly cultured.

I was thinking more like mixing Fishy On a Little Dishy (When da Boat Comes Tin), with Brass.

:D

Tealeaf 29-03-2010 00:21

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801457)
You're so highly cultured.

I was thinking more like mixing Fishy On a Little Dishy (When da Boat Comes Tin), with Brass.

:D

Yeah, I know about the culture bit.

I trust you weren't thinking of Ms Winterston to write the script.

Benipete 29-03-2010 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 801456)
What are you drivelling on about?

Some people that think they are sensible but yet can not spell drivel should get to know the law regarding Clubs and Affiliates. beni CMD

Benipete 29-03-2010 01:01

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Far be it for me to complain - But some of my posts have been deleted by a person that I think I know but he does not have the power of lateral thinking.

I took it on myself to venture into town on a very disdainful day to ask the good people of Accrington if we should have a Hustings day.To cut a long story short I am still alive but not one person knew what the hell a Hustings day was.

The answer to the teaser was --I was there.

garinda 29-03-2010 01:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 801465)
Far be it for me to complain - But some of my posts have been deleted by a person that I think I know but he does not have the power of lateral thinking.

I took it on myself to venture into town on a very disdainful day to ask the good people of Accrington if we should have a Hustings day.To cut a long story short I am still alive but not one person knew what the hell a Hustings day was.

The answer to the teaser was --I was there.

Only moderators (names in black) can delete posts, usually for bad language, or if they're reported.

Most times you get a pm, telling you why it was deleted.

If you didn't, and are worried as to why it went, pm a mod, and they'll helpfully tell you why it was deleted.

SPUGGIE J 29-03-2010 06:16

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
How about in the council chamber? Might make a change for politics to be discussed instead of mud slinging and one up man ship games.

jaysay 29-03-2010 08:57

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801454)
The Oswaldtwistle Social Club, the redundant Oswaldtwistle Conservative Club, can always find room for bookings.

:D

Its still a Tory Club Garinda

garinda 29-03-2010 09:34

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 801484)
Its still a Tory Club Garinda

I thought because of the grand renaming ceremony the other year, in order to stem dwindling numbers, it no longer had any political affilations, and the local Conservative Association just held their meetings there, like other groups do too.

yerself 29-03-2010 10:17

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf
being seranaded by a brass band led chorus of 'The Internationale.'

Which version? Here's a couple of popular ones.:D

The Foreman's Job

The working class can kiss my ass
I got the foreman's job at last.

You can tell old Joe I'm off the dole -
He can stick his Red Flag up his 'ole!

Then raise the Workers' Bomb on high!
Beneath its shroud we'll gladly die!
Though all our critics do shout, "Balls!"
They'll be beneath it when it falls.

or

The workers’ flag is palest pink
Since Gaitskell dipped it in the sink
Now Harold’s done the same as Hugh
The workers’ flag is brightest blue.

g jones 29-03-2010 10:58

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
I appreciate the humour Tealeaf. I guess you were thinking that is an election for the Constituency of Sickle and Hammer East.

However there was a British Legion hustings planned which has been lost. I believe some people would be interested. My view is to be accountable.

webglynne 29-03-2010 13:10

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801454)
The Oswaldtwistle Social Club, the redundant Oswaldtwistle Conservative Club, can always find room for bookings.

:D

How many redundant conservatives are there in ozzy?

garinda 29-03-2010 13:42

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by webglynne (Post 801519)
How many redundant conservatives are there in ozzy?

Well according to Conservative Central Office in London, there's at least one that is redundant, and remains unwanted.

;)

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

garinda 29-03-2010 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by webglynne (Post 801519)
How many redundant conservatives are there in ozzy?

They experienced falling numbers, and it was probably a good idea to close the Conservative Club, and re-open it as a non-affiliated social club.

Apparently they still have meetings there, which is nice, as it has more facilities than if they hired a phone box.

Ken Moss 29-03-2010 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801527)
They experienced falling numbers, and it was probably a good idea to close the Conservative Club, and re-open it as a non-affiliated social club.

Apparently they still have meetings there, which is nice, as it has more facilities than if they hired a phone box.

To be fair to the Rishton Conservative club, they're not against other parties having meetings in their function room and are very welcoming on the whole. They also do an excellent spread with proper ale.

garinda 29-03-2010 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 801529)
To be fair to the Rishton Conservative club, they're not against other parties having meetings in their function room and are very welcoming on the whole. They also do an excellent spread with proper ale.

A good capitalist, would allow anyone into their premises, as long as the price is right.

I'll pass on the details about Rishton, to my friends in the Transgender Neo-Nazis NW Branch.

:D

jaysay 29-03-2010 14:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801493)
I thought because of the grand renaming ceremony the other year, in order to stem dwindling numbers, it no longer had any political affilations, and the local Conservative Association just held their meetings there, like other groups do too.

No Garinda, in fact the ACC (Association of Conservative Clubs) who's office is within CCO, have only recently taken over as trustees of the club

garinda 29-03-2010 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 801551)
No Garinda, in fact the ACC (Association of Conservative Clubs) who's office is within CCO, have only recently taken over as trustees of the club

I think the public need to be made aware of this.

You don't want anyone social walking in there, under the misunderstanding that it was an ordinary social club, as the new name seems to suggest.

;)

jaysay 29-03-2010 15:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801555)
I think the public need to be made aware of this.

You don't want anyone social walking in there, under the misunderstanding that it was an ordinary social club, as the new name seems to suggest.

;)

The illuminated sign outside still says Oswaldtwistle and Church Conservative Club, if they can read one sign they can read um both;)

garinda 29-03-2010 15:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 801556)
The illuminated sign outside still says Oswaldtwistle and Church Conservative Club, if they can read one sign they can read um both;)


Seems rather odd then.

All the fanfare and publicity in the press the other year, about it being renamed, and relaunched as the 'Oswaldtwistle Social Club'.

;)

jaysay 30-03-2010 09:13

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801558)
Seems rather odd then.

All the fanfare and publicity in the press the other year, about it being renamed, and relaunched as the 'Oswaldtwistle Social Club'.

;)

Makes no difference really the building is owned by the ACC and that can't be changed;)

garinda 30-03-2010 09:46

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 801698)
Makes no difference really the building is owned by the ACC and that can't be changed;)

Stil seems an odd thing to do.

To rename something, for no good reason.

A little like that daft plan from a couple of years back, to change the name of the borough, until an angry public outcry, regarding the massive costs involved versus any benefits, caused an embarrassing climb-down, and thankfully a complate U-turn.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 30-03-2010 10:10

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 801708)
Stil seems an odd thing to do.

To rename something, for no good reason.

A little like that daft plan from a couple of years back, to change the name of the borough, until an angry public outcry, regarding the massive costs involved versus any benefits, caused an embarrassing climb-down, and thankfully a complate U-turn.

:rolleyes:

Bit like Labours Death Tax ;)

garinda 30-03-2010 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 801720)
Bit like Labours Death Tax ;)

Is Peter Britcliffe planning to change the name of that too?


My, my, he is influential down in London...just not at Conservative Central Office.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

jaysay 30-03-2010 15:05

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 801720)
Bit like Labours Death Tax ;)

A Labour Policy Climb down, announced this morning

garinda 30-03-2010 15:32

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 801812)
A Labour Policy Climb down, announced this morning


I thought it was a partial 'climb down', at least according to the news I heard?

Still, nice to share some good news for a change.

Gayle 31-03-2010 08:23

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Didn't Greg do an online discussion thing some years ago? Only a few people were on line and I was still on normal telephone internet then and not broadband so it was incredibly slow. But it was an interesting exercise.

I think it would be good to do it as an open forum but you could also have someone transcribing for the internet. Covers both bases and everyone gets to ask questions.

One thing I would say is "don't call it a 'hustings'" most people wouldn't have the foggiest idea of what it was.

jaysay 31-03-2010 09:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 801988)
Didn't Greg do an online discussion thing some years ago? Only a few people were on line and I was still on normal telephone internet then and not broadband so it was incredibly slow. But it was an interesting exercise.

I think it would be good to do it as an open forum but you could also have someone transcribing for the internet. Covers both bases and everyone gets to ask questions.

One thing I would say is "don't call it a 'hustings'" most people wouldn't have the foggiest idea of what it was.

They're not all as old as you and me Gayle:D
okay I'll get mi coat:D

Gayle 02-04-2010 12:48

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
A friend of mine went to a question and answer session at St Mary's College in Blackburn and Graham Jones was one of the speakers.

Her verdict was that he came over really well, was extremely knowledgeable, able to get his point over and very earnest but that came over as a little bit humourless at times. So, in other words, the minor improvement that they offered was that he could relax and smile a bit more often.

Oh, and apparently blew the prospective Conservative candidate for Blackburn out of the water :D

g jones 03-04-2010 19:39

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Thanks for that Gayle. Went in tired and off the cuff.

Wynonie Harris 03-04-2010 19:59

Re: Would AccyWebbers like a Parliamentary hustings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 802709)
Her verdict was that he came over really well, was extremely knowledgeable, able to get his point over and very earnest but that came over as a little bit humourless at times. So, in other words, the minor improvement that they offered was that he could relax and smile a bit more often.

Could I just say that Graham is quite chilled when he's in the pub with us (and, I hasten to add that, unlike me, he's on the non-alcoholic stuff!). :D


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