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jaysay 13-04-2010 10:11

Somehing very wrong in this country
 
Peter Davey gets £42,000 in benefits a year and drives a Mercedes | Mail Online
There is something very wrong in this country when you can see headlines like this:mad:

accyman 13-04-2010 10:34

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you think thats sickening take a peek at this if it hasnt been posted already

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A female soldier disciplined by the Army after missing a parade to look after her daughter is set to receive damages after winning an employment tribunal claim, it was reported.

Single mother Tilern DeBique, 28, said she was forced to leave her job because she was unable to organise childcare.
Payout for soldier forced to quit - Yahoo! News UK

turkishdelight 13-04-2010 11:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 805954)
Peter Davey gets £42,000 in benefits a year and drives a Mercedes | Mail Online
There is something very wrong in this country when you can see headlines like this:mad:

Agree their certainly is.

cashman 13-04-2010 11:16

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Both links are great examples of what is a complete "Balls Up" with administration n society in general.:( its also said that it takes 20 yrs fer what happens in america,to arrive here, well its happening.

Less 13-04-2010 14:15

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 805970)
Agree their certainly is.

Yes, there is, for example, false claims put against Student grants and the culprit never having to pay it back, more, honest peoples money wasted by Hypocrites!
:mad:

Margaret Pilkington 13-04-2010 14:25

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It should never be more lucrative to live off benefits than to find a job.
This guy had a job and gave it up to sponge off the working man.....his wife has never worked.

garinda 13-04-2010 15:28

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 806009)
It should never be more lucrative to live off benefits than to find a job.
This guy had a job and gave it up to sponge off the working man.....his wife has never worked.


Quite agree.

Social benefits should be there to support those in need.

It should not be a choice. Working for a living, or living off the state.

The whole system is flawed.

If everyone decided they'd be better off living off benefits, and no one paid into the pot that funds it, the system would collapse in days.

People deciding to have large families, supported solely by the state, when there is free family planning available, is another matter that needs addressing.

Sadly the days of us thinking we could only have things, whatever those things might be, when we'd saved enough to be able to afford them, are sadly long gone.

Barrie Yates 13-04-2010 15:56

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I note that Mr Moss has not commented on this one - perhaps he is too busy dealing with local matters:-)

MargaretR 13-04-2010 16:54

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National Assistance (now Income Support) once had a payment limit known as
The Wage Stop.
This was a very complex calculation that we civil servants dreaded having to do.
The basis of it was the wage of a local council labourer.

Applying it ensured that where a large number of children would cause the 'normal' calculation to provide for a high rate of payment of National Assistance, then this Wage Stop would limit it to what that family could receive if the 'breadwinner' was employed as a council labourer.

After studies into 'child poverty', that rule was abolished in 1975

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/c...wage-stop-rule

DaveinGermany 13-04-2010 18:27

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Before accusations start to fly "Albion" in this context is simply a referral to Great Britain, with admittedly the focus being on England. Why this topic ? Why the title ? I sit here hundreds of miles from the Land of my Birth & look on with a feeling of despair & depression at what has become of our verdant Isle.

It seems that a day does not go by when a further injustice is not inflicted on our Land & her people, to view the papers daily is getting harder as each day brings further indignities which leaves the reader uncomprehending & dismayed at our lack of "control".


The above two paragraphs are part of a thread I wrote way, way back in the mists of time entitled "The passing of Albion" ( Saturday 27th March 2010). But it was mostly ignored which is fine, each to their own I suppose, but it was about this sort of depressing instance that encouraged me to pass comment. Sadly we reap what we sow !

Tealeaf 13-04-2010 18:43

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Unfortunately, Dave there is little we can do about it. Opinion polls indicate that the issue of the level of immigration into the UK is on a par with concern over the economy. What do our perfidious politicians say about that? Sweet F.A. if you read the political manifestos just published. There is a simple reason for that. At least 200 Constituencies now contain sufficient numbers of recent immigrants to determine the electoral swing on the 6th of May; therefore the mainstream parties do not want to say anything that may adversely affect their vote. Sickening, innit.

DaveinGermany 13-04-2010 18:58

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 806086)
At least 200 Constituencies now contain sufficient numbers of recent immigrants to determine the electoral swing on the 6th of May;

But how many are entitled to make that vote ? it would be the ideal time for the Police, Border Agencies & Customs & Immigration officials to be present at the ballot boxes. All those attending require to show some form of identification to cast there vote & those who can't validate their presence should be escorted away & relevant enquiries followed, thereby sorting the Wheat from the Chaff. How difficult can it be ?

At the same time People would see something is being done & maybe that will give encouragement for the future of the Country.

Margaret Pilkington 13-04-2010 19:01

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what a great idea......but I fear it is doomed, because there will be those who would cry 'racism' if this was carried out.

DaveinGermany 13-04-2010 19:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 806105)
what a great idea......but I fear it is doomed, because there will be those who would cry 'racism' if this was carried out.

Can't see why Marge, not when everyone has to identify themselves. It is an across the board thing I believe, you need to verify who you are & your eligibility to vote so everyone is under the same auspices, no racialism that I can see.

Margaret Pilkington 13-04-2010 19:18

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No, I agree......there is no racism at all, but that won't stop those who fear they may be targetted from using the racism card......it seems to me that what Tealeaf says is a true reflection......there is no political will to do anything because these people(the new-comers will vote for the government) or am I just being cynical here?
Personally, I feel that much of the immigration that took place, was to ensure that New labour got their votes and stayed in power....again, maybe I am being cynical.

Tealeaf 13-04-2010 19:18

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 806103)
But how many are entitled to make that vote ?

The Commonwealth lot can vote in the parliamentary and local council elections on 6th May; for the EU lot, it's simply the latter. Here in Bangladesh West (aka Tower Hamlets) we've also got a referendum vote on a directly elected mayor (in other words, which Taliban Mullah do we want elected with executive decision powers). It's something that we natives are trying to avoid at all costs.

By the way, I was in the local swimming pool last week when I thought I saw the familiar face of one of the local MP's step into the shallow end. I swam down there, ramming speed, and gave the b*st*rd a good side kick. Unfortunately, it was not Mr George Galloway, but some French bloke - so it didn't really matter, I suppose.


Margaret Pilkington 13-04-2010 19:21

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 806119)
The Commonwealth lot can vote in the parliamentary and local council elections on 6th May; for the EU lot, it's simply the latter. Here in Bangladesh West (aka Tower Hamlets) we've also got a referendum vote on a directly elected mayor (in other words, which Taliban Mullah do we want elected with executive decision powers). It's something that we natives are trying to avoid at all costs.

By the way, I was in the local swimming pool last week when I thought I saw the familiar face of one of the local MP's step into the shallow end. I swam down there, ramming speed, and gave the b*st*rd a good side kick. Unfortunately, it was not Mr George Galloway, but some French bloke - so it didn't really matter, I suppose.

Oh....that really made me chuckle....but I do wish it had been George Galloway.

Ken Moss 14-04-2010 06:59

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 806037)
I note that Mr Moss has not commented on this one - perhaps he is too busy dealing with local matters:-)

What can I say that hasn't already been said? Everyone else has already pointed out the blindingly obvious flaw that we have a system on the verge of collapse because there's more coming out than going in.

I try not to think about it.

Less 14-04-2010 07:59

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 806209)

I try not to think about it.

Quite right, that's the way the best politicians work.

:)

turkishdelight 14-04-2010 10:29

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 806235)
Quite right, that's the way the best politicians work.

:)

Not for long now.

Wynonie Harris 14-04-2010 10:55

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 806285)
Not for long now.

Care to elucidate?

Ken Moss 14-04-2010 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 806235)
Quite right, that's the way the best politicians work.

:)

I'm trying to get the hang of it....

Ken Moss 14-04-2010 11:47

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 806292)
Care to elucidate?

Glad I wasn't the only one who didn't quite get that.

DaveinGermany 14-04-2010 16:00

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 806118)
Personally, I feel that much of the immigration that took place, was to ensure that New labour got their votes and stayed in power....again, maybe I am being cynical.

No, not cynical, actually on the mark as many people have found out & understandably become annoyed at the Governments total disrespect & disregard for the People of the Country. Yet still they wonder why the populace are so anti Politicians ??

Labour's secret plan to lure immigrants was borderline treason – and plain stupid – Telegraph Blogs

yerself 14-04-2010 20:45

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There's definitely something very wrong when an alcoholic, smackhead convict gets 4.7m for falling out of bed.
Brain-damaged prisoner wins £4.7m compensation package to cover his rent - Telegraph
OK there may have been 'breaches of duty of care' by the prison service, but 4.7million.

Wynonie Harris 15-04-2010 15:49

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 806285)
Not for long now.

Still waiting for enlightenment on this one?

DaveinGermany 16-04-2010 14:49

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Oh deary deary me, once more our infallible crime fighting heroes once again rush to the well being of the greater British Public, due to apprehending a vicious knife wielding threat to our Nation !!! (Flag waving & Fanfares please)

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Man with penknife in his car is handed a criminal record

Now if only these defenders of justice had put as much effort into understanding (possibly reading about) the laws they are meant to uphold & implement, how much Police time & public money could've been saved ?? :(

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CrimeJus...tion/DG_078569

Crime & Justice = Knife crime = Basic rules on knives = Point 5

  • knives with folding blades, like Swiss Army knives, are not illegal as long as the blade is three inches long (7.62 cms) or less

Barrie Yates 16-04-2010 16:46

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Here in France - you want to buy CS aerosols, OK. A Samurai Sword - yes there will be a shop in the town selling them. Throwing knives, catapults, shotguns, rifle, whatever you want as long as you are a French citizen.
So if it is OK in France, which is a member of the EU, why the restrictions in UK?

Barrie Yates 16-04-2010 16:48

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 806285)
Not for long now.

Come on, the suspence is killing me, please tell us:)

Wynonie Harris 16-04-2010 19:46

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 807018)
Come on, the suspence is killing me, please tell us:)

Maybe she's busy helping young Andrew with his homework. ;)

jaysay 17-04-2010 09:22

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 807018)
Come on, the suspence is killing me, please tell us:)

I think she's trying to say Gordon will be out on his ear very soon:D

Ken Moss 17-04-2010 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 807208)
I think she's trying to say Gordon will be out on his ear very soon:D

Is your other job a mind reader, John?

:D

jaysay 17-04-2010 13:55

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 807246)
Is your other job a mind reader, John?

:D

Think of a card any card:D

acertun 22-04-2010 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 807297)
Think of a card any card:D

The Joker ???

jaysay 22-04-2010 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acertun (Post 808888)
The Joker ???

:thefinger:thefinger:thefinger

acertun 25-04-2010 16:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 808890)
:thefinger:thefinger:thefinger

Be nice Jaysay

jaysay 25-04-2010 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acertun (Post 810021)
Be nice Jaysay

I'm always nice














To my friends:rolleyes:

Stumped 25-04-2010 17:08

Re: Somehing very wrong in this country
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 805972)
Both links are great examples of what is a complete "Balls Up" with administration n society in general.:( its also said that it takes 20 yrs fer what happens in america,to arrive here, well its happening.

Our muslim Obama is just waiting in the wings. What!


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