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Well there you are then, that's exactly why they've done it.

I would agree with you that there are plenty of examples of political correctness in this country, but from what I've seen, they usually (although not always) emanate from the government and Labour local councils.

So instead of having a go at a private company which is simply following its commercial instincts, why not have a go at them?

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Already have, long ago. Politically correct decisions made in Westminster are causing convulsions up and down the country which is why the BNP and UKIP are getting such a strong foothold. It doesn't matter whether Labour or the Conservatives are in power, nothing will change until there is the real danger of losing control to one of those parties.

This is only my personal opinion but it's the single biggest failing of all politicians that they daren't be seen as 'racist' by making statements which appear to be against anyone from an ethnic background.

The stark ironic reality is that they are being more racist towards their own country than any of the indiginous populace.

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I bet you go down a bomb at Labour party conferences! Does Harriet Harman know about you? :D

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My thoughts exactly Wyn, but hey Ken's his own man and you can't knock him for that, but whether he'll be allowed such views if an elected Labour member remains to be seen, back the Party line or your out, as poor George Slynn found out, ended his political career as a Lib/Dem, because he opposed the county council selling off their homes for the elderly:rolleyes:

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Would agree, Jaysay, that Ken, like you is his own man.

However, as Tory-lite is now a mirror image of Labor-lite, I'm sure the Cameroonista would clamp down on any Tory councillor who was off-message. But obviously, we don't know, because no Tory councillors ever sully their delicate fingers by posting on Accyweb.

As for Ken, if he is elected, he can use the "I'm far too busy with local issues" line. Usually works well for Bernard. Or he can be like Claytonender and studiously avoid such distastful topics! :D

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As I said earlier, entirely my own opinions and it's probably not a topic in which I'm ever going to have much influence so I don't think anyone needs to worry about me bringing down the house of cards just yet.

Nevertheless, the big guns really do need to start taking note of the elephant in the room.

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I've often said that if you align yourself with a group you abide by their majority decisions, whether you agree with them wholeheartedly or not. I can't see the point of joining something and then going against the grain of everything they stand for, as I stated in my initial interview.

The day that I turn round and directly attack a Labour policy is the day I will be expecting the Grand Order of the Boot to be conferred on my derriere.

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I haven't been to any and, regrettably, the lovely Ms Harman and I are not acquainted.

Besides, I'm far too busy with local issues to worry about this.....

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That's it! You're getting the hang of it now! ;)

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So what about the Labour Party policy of all-women shortlists? Don't you feel the urge to attack that?

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In all honesty, no.

Whatever central office and the other eschelons of the party wish to decide on is their own affair and if they ask me my opinion I will give it but (in all seriousness this time!) I have far too much to worry about putting right in Rishton without getting all knotted up about things which aren't even going to affect me.

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Ha ha ha, brilliant! I KNEW you'd do it in the end!

It may not affect you directly, but it's part and parcel of the general move towards PC policies in this country.

So, you're quite happy to pledge your allegiance to the modern Labour Party with its policies of political correctness, while indulging in Daily Mail-style rants against political correctness on Accyweb (which, curiously enough, you do seem to have time for).

Running with hare and hunting with the hounds springs to mind! :D

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I'm 'convalescing' at the moment so expect more of me this week....

Can't fault your logic at all but there's more to me signing up with Labour than simply policies - I'm surrounded by decent people at group meetings and I get more support than I would ever have hoped for. The Hyndburn Labour group is a good political party and I'm proud to stand with them.

However, if you're expecting me to slavishly agree with everything that is said in Westminster then you'll be disappointed. As I've already said, I won't be rocking the boat on any issue that comes up which I don't happen to agree with but I'm entitled to my own views so long as they don't affect any other members. Graham Jones already knows what my stance will be if there's ever something I'm not in favour of and he still welcomed me into the group as an election candidate.

Perhaps Labour isn't quite as tyrannical with its members as other parties....

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Wouldn't know, the political party I'm a member of lets you make up your own policies as you go along. In fact, if you sign up, you get to be Shadow Minister of whatever you fancy! :D

I accept that the Labour party's a broad church stretching from Lord Mandelson to Dennis Skinner, but your tirades against PC-ness, immigration and various other topics almost make it seem like some other party who you don't agree with have been in power for the last 13 years!

I reckon Bernard and Claytonender will have to have serious words with you about keeping schtum on certain political topics! ;)

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I'll wait for the Grand Order any day then, should I?

Let's not confuse attacking party policy with general frustration against stupidity, as demonstrated by my 'tirades' against the PC Brigade. Organisations who keep making new rules to appease supposedly oppressed minorities who haven't uttered a single word of complaint aren't always looked upon too favourably, as demonstrated here by KFC.

Things come in cycles and the tide is turning against a system that is eroding culture and making things that we've lived with for years either prejudiced or a health and safety concern.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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So where does political correctness come from? Out of thin air? From popular demand? No, it comes from politicians and governments, including the one you support, who were quite happy to make a new rule on women-only shortlists. It's no good standing shoulder to shoulder with your comrades in the Labour party, then coming on like a Daily Mail comment writer on Accyweb.

Are you sure the Labour party's quite the right place for you, because it seems to me that I'm more of a leftwing liberal than you on issues like immigration. For instance, if I went into a KFC and the clientele was largely Asian, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, whereas to you it's "symptomatic of the needlessly correct political nightmare we're sliding into."

Possibly, a period of reflection might be in order, Ken? ;)

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Thus opening the floor for a healthy debate, but the PC decisions you have laid at Labour's door are unlikely ever to be swayed by my input anyway so it isn't something I spend much time trying to change. In today's world, I can't imagine that any party would be totally immune from making decisions which could be viewed as 'PC gone mad'.

I recently found myself in a position where I was inadvertently breaking HBC health and safety regulations, guidelines set in place by a Conservative administration. It needled me and the poor official who dealt with me got rather an abrasive reply but I made my position clear on the matter and exempted myself to change a situation which directly affected me. That was a situation where I could actually alter something which I found to be needlessly PC but it was a remarkably rare instance.

There's also the difference between local issues and national issues, which is so chasmic that I'd rather leave Westminster to the people who want to get involved at that level. As it stands now, I have no desire to actively pursue issues beyond Hyndburn.

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Would agree without a doubt that the Tories are just as bad on PC issues. As for the local/national issues debate, well, I predicted you'd say that! ;)

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At the risk of venturing even further off-topic than we already are, I'm really honestly not that concerned with any issues beyond Hyndburn, or even Rishton if you want me to be specific. The whole point of me standing as a local councillor is to improve the village around me and put right problems that I might actually stand a chance of having some say over.

I'll leave the business of being an MP to Graham Jones, someone who is far better suited to those matters than I am.

You've tagged me with a great catchphrase though, and I didn't even come up with it!

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Every great politician needs a catchphrase...whether they said it or not ("The pound in your pocket...", "The lady's not for turning..." ect)!

Just happy to help! ;)

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No doubt Grahams told you that, he's been telling us for years:sleep:

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He's certainly not told me that he'd make a better MP than me, I made that deduction by listening to him talk. I'm sure Karen Buckley is a decent enough candidate but I'm rooting for Graham, and I'd still be rooting for Graham if Cllr Britcliffe had been selected instead.

As I've said before, I don't mind anyone having different opinions but start getting rude or personal to try and win favour and you've lost all respect from me, which is why the nasty Tory attitude in Hyndburn has turned me firmly against them. The Observer letter aside, watching Cllr Britcliffe's lamentable display in the council chamber last month demonstrated that he is not someone I would choose to represent us in Westminster.

We're supposed to be on about dodgy bacon!

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You can be rude and you can be nasty but you can also be Right

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True, but then yer point is lost in many peoples eyes.

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He's far too deep for thee and me cashy:D

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Me too!!!!!!

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I think that he's responding to Kens' post ? And one would assume he isn't a fan of Labour. Thereby meaning the comments (?) passed by the Tory reps were rude & nasty, but he seems to think they applied ?

That would be my understanding of the situation. Still, I'm just an outsider nosing in so what do I know ?

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Patently more than someone who lives here but is too scared to take the blinkers off.