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yerself 27-04-2010 15:35

Should He Have Been Banned?
 
A Blackburn soldier caught speeding at 143mph has been allowed to keeep his licence because he was about to go to Afghanistan. He maybe risking his life in Afghanistan but he doesn't seem to have had much regard for life in England whilst going at that speed.

Blackburn soldier driving at 143mph escapes ban as he’s off to Afghanistan (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Neil 27-04-2010 15:37

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Of course he should have been banned.
That Judge should now be banned from being a Judge as well.

BERNADETTE 27-04-2010 15:42

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Heard this earlier on the radio news, of course he should have been banned

flashy 27-04-2010 15:48

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yep

david1 27-04-2010 15:49

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The judge should have postponed his ban until his return from Afghanistan . Then made it for 5 years with an extended test to get his license back !

Wynonie Harris 27-04-2010 15:52

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Obviously, anyone with an ounce of common would agree that he should have been banned...which is why a member of the judiciary and Jack Straw think otherwise! :rolleyes:

cashman 27-04-2010 16:18

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whats new, disgraceful from a judge.:rolleyes:

Barrie Yates 27-04-2010 16:32

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He should have been banned - but how could the ban be enforced if he is in Kabul. It will go on his Military Record I believe.
I remember way back when the Breathalyser was introduced - The Station Commander of a V-bomber base was discharged from the RAF and he was only just over the limit.

Margaret Pilkington 27-04-2010 16:33

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In a word YES!

acertun 27-04-2010 16:45

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You break the law you pay the piper. He could have killed an innocent bystander.

setayas 27-04-2010 17:00

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I would think his C.O. will hand out a much harsher penalty than anything the judge could have given him.

DaveinGermany 27-04-2010 17:56

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Soldier or not, what he did was wrong & as such really should've been punished. had it been a couple of MPH over OK, a ticking off then sent on his way with best wishes for a safe tour, but double the National limit !

As it is he'll get punished by his unit for "bringing the Army into disrepute" & probably a Regimental entry(noted on his records). Also as R.E.M.E a licence is required for his trade so he would've lost rank & trade pay. Foolish

Less 27-04-2010 18:48

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Well, I think the Jury are coming across with only one verdict, (to be honest perhaps he's lucky hang, drawing, & Quartering have been Abolished), I have to admit, I'm with the majority so far as 'our' roads are concerned.
Shouldn't it be a case of, he is banned from roads over here, because he was so stupid?

But cutting across a piece of Desert or whatever, his chances of keeping a No Claims Bonus, are remote to say the least?

Stupidity whilst on leave doesn't stop him being a good Soldier while he fights for his and his mates lives, and our Government's need for him to be, 'There', Wherever there happens to be Politically Correct?.

Leave the lad alone, he suffers more than most of us can consider for crying out loud, they even have to wear civvies in their own Country to prevent molestation, (Now that has to be wrong),

If no-one else says it, I will 'Aye' up lad, you was a pillock, but I'm proud of you for being there for me and mine.
:D
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Margaret Pilkington 27-04-2010 19:06

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Less, I agree with some of your post...especially the last line......but I still think he was wrong......he was doing more than twice the legal speed limit....and the fact that he used in his defence 'he thought he was being chased by a Subaru Impreza'...what the Sam Hill has that got to do with anything?

But we were not the judge in the case.

and you Less, must wear leather britches if you want to avoid getting splinters in your bum:D

Margaret Pilkington 27-04-2010 19:08

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Oh yes, and before you slate me for saying that you are with the majority...well, you sort of are.......and then again you aren't.

DaveinGermany 27-04-2010 19:33

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 810567)
and you Less, must wear leather britches if you want to avoid getting splinters in your bum:D

Less.....in "LEDERHOSEN" EEEK :eek:

Less 27-04-2010 19:38

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Margaret, I don't know what you are on about, I thought I made my views plain in my post, (I've just spent half an hour trying to copy and paste and then say that without offending).

Margaret Pilkington 27-04-2010 20:54

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Have I misunderstood you then?
I understood your post to mean that you were with the majority...which I think, means you think he should be banned....but then, you go on to say (not in so many words)
'Leave the lad alone..he's got a tough job'....or am I misreading you?

mallard 27-04-2010 21:29

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Yes he should have been banded because if it was any one else they woul have been

Tealeaf 27-04-2010 21:49

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I notice that the one of the Blackburn election candidates made the following comment - and I quote from the LT:

'Paul English, Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate for Blackburn, said that Edmondson’s actions were “as lethal as a speeding bullet”.'

No doubt Mr English - and how inappropriate that name - is angling for the vote of a certain part of the Blackburn electorate. However, I find it somewhat sickening that he has bowed so low as to use this analogy. Speeding bullets - which travel at the rate of 1500mph - have claimed the lives of many of this young mans comrades in Afganistan. This lad may have been somewhat silly in his actions - but he did at least offer a plausible excuse. For once, the judge - and even Straw - may have got it right.

jaysay 28-04-2010 09:25

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 810568)
Oh yes, and before you slate me for saying that you are with the majority...well, you sort of are.......and then again you aren't.

:eek::eek::eek:What you saying Margaret, Less sitting on the fence:eek::eek::eek:

jaysay 28-04-2010 09:28

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Well we have laws which must be adhered to, there doesn't seem to be any mitigating circumstances here 147 mph is ridiculous irrespective who you are or what your job is

Neil 28-04-2010 09:34

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 810647)
This lad may have been somewhat silly in his actions - but he did at least offer a plausible excuse. For once, the judge - and even Straw - may have got it right.

No he did not. He thought he was being chased is not an excuse. What he really means is that he was trying to see if he was faster than the other car.

He should have been banned. If it had been me I would have been banned, massive fine, lost my job etc etc.

Tealeaf 28-04-2010 09:48

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 810717)
No he did not. He thought he was being chased is not an excuse. What he really means is that he was trying to see if he was faster than the other car.

Why don't you stick to the reported facts, rather than indulge in idle speculation?

Neil 28-04-2010 09:52

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 810722)
Why don't you stick to the reported facts, rather than indulge in idle speculation?

The facts - he was doing 143mph with a car following him. That is called racing. Saying anything else is called lying your butt of to get away with it.

Tealeaf 28-04-2010 10:02

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 810724)
The facts - he was doing 143mph with a car following him. That is called racing. Saying anything else is called laying your butt of to get away with it.

No it is not.The car following him was an unmarked police car. He did not know this. Whatever speed he was doing when the police took up their chase is not reported. What was reported was that the lad was under the belief that someone dodgy was chasing him. The chase did not end in the usual manner of either a smash or the driver stopping and then doing a runner, but of the driver pulling over once he realised who it was behind him. The judge took all circumstances into account and punished him accordingly.

Neil 28-04-2010 10:05

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You believe what you want, he saw a fast car in his mirror and went for it, have you forgotten what is was like to be young? :p:D

acertun 28-04-2010 14:15

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 810733)
You believe what you want, he saw a fast car in his mirror and went for it, have you forgotten what is was like to be young? :p:D

So being young automatically puts you above the law???? Thats a strange way of looking at things isn't it.???

Neil 28-04-2010 14:31

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I am the one who thinks he should have been banned
Posted via Mobile Device

Less 28-04-2010 16:27

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 810821)
I am the one who thinks he should have been banned
Posted via Mobile Device

Don't worry , Neil he thinks it's a 'New World' he lives in when it's actually his, 'Own World'.
:D

Northern Monkey 29-04-2010 13:48

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What ever he got in the courts, will be matched by the army too.

Neil 29-04-2010 14:54

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 811088)
What ever he got in the courts, will be matched by the army too.

So they wont ban him either, and that makes it better how?

pipinfort 29-04-2010 15:01

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Banned.

cherokee 29-04-2010 17:14

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BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Tayside and Central | Speeding soldier escapes road ban

Personally I think he should have been tried on his return from Afghanistan and a ban put in place then.

Yes I can understand that they need him driving for his job but to be honest I think what he has done is wrong and someone could have seriously been injured or even worse. If he,d have been tried once home from tour then he would have paid the price for his actions

In any circumstance if you feel you are being tailgated is no reason to speed up no matter who,s behind you. why not let them pass.

Soldier or no soldier the law is the law.

MargaretR 29-04-2010 17:57

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I can't help feeling that there was an element of entrapment at work here.
Police drivers love a fast chase. They are trained for it and don't get much chance to use it.
They tempted him and he fell for it. - he shouldn't have - but then, should they have created the situation?

Perhaps this is why he got off lightly


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