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http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...airman/?ref=mr

Was this magistrate right or wrong calling these lads scum for desecrating Blackburn Cathedral. To me it should be Christine Dean that's looking for a fresh job, never mind this chap being removed as chairman of the bench.

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Its people like this stupid cow Christine Dean, that have contributed most to the way society responds these days, they are scum n shes too stupid n self righteous to accept it.:mad:

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The magistrate was right, the teenagers are scum, and so is the court clerk, Christine Dean, for objecting to the term, and for encouraging the boy's mother to make an offical complaint.

It's half-wits like this woman who allow scum to do, and get away with, whatever they want.

Sack her.

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spot on, this is how criminals come to have more rights than honest decent folk,its all very well certain people saying "Tough on Crime" but while people like her can do this, its just "Meaningless Words":( she has no concept at all in my opinion of what ordinary decent people think.:rolleyes:

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stupid cow

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The boys' parents are scum as well, for taking Christine Dean's advice to make an offical complaint.

Most decent parents would have been horrified and ashamed of what their offspring have done, and would have wanted to give them both a thick ear, not make a fuss, when someone had the bottle to say what they actually are....scum.

It's made all the national papers too.

Jolly well done Ms. Dean, champion of scum.

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Christine Dean should be sacked

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Without Doubt, trouble is, this clown is just one of many, who have attained positions of authority.:(

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There's a group on Facebook, for the magistrate to be reinstated in his job.

Austin Molloy Magistrate Support Group ! | Facebook

(Thank you to whover posted it in the Telegraph's comments.)

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is there one to sack her?

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thanks fer the link rindy.;)

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...and while we're at it, we could sack this plonker as well.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Jailed Iraqis may win thousands in damages

Is it any wonder most folk are totally hacked off with the whole rotten, stinking system? :rolleyes:

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I've linked this thread to the page on Facebook.

You can't misss it.

It's also posted Jaysay's mug shot next to the link.

:D

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Oh for God's sake.

It makes you want to bang your head against a brick wall.

They were illegal immigrants, convicted of committing violent crimes in this country.

Of course they should be securely help in prison until they are deported.

But no.

They wil be allowed to remain here, and receive tens of thousands of pounds in compensation.

One day there'll eventually be a revolution, by decent people, sick and tired of the scum always coming out smelling of roses, facilitated by 'do-gooding' morons.

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This Court Clerk should feel ashamed of her actions...and be reprimanded herself!

They are scum...whats wrong in tellin em so!...No doubt now the Scum will get a pay out because their feelings have been upset...this world gets more pathetic by the day!

I've joined the Facebook group.....nice to see yer Mugshot on there Jaysay!!:D


Best Regards - Taggy

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Austin Molloy was right to call these young adults Scum.......and Christine Dean should be relieved of her post.
These young adults need to recognise that there are consequences for their actions, and this will never happen if they are allowed to get away with the magistrate being reprimanded.
The words did not hurt as much as the birch would have done...because years ago that is what would have happened to these lads....now, that would have sent them home crying to their mother.
The parents of these lads are to blame too....they should be takng firmer control of their offspring.

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If I'd have done anything like this I don't know about hurt my feelings, it would certainly have hurt my backside, from my Fathers foot right up it

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if you dont think facebook will be noticed by those who are concerned in this disgracefull decision you can write your support for Austin Molly to this department

deputy justice clerk
blackburn magistrates court
northgate
blackburn
bb2 1aa

Christine Dean is a disgrace to the justice system and i wonder how she would describe them if it was her home they had vandalised

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I think she might just call them nice teenage boys......but only in court......in private she would probably call them far worse than SCUM.

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Here are the government guidelines for magistrates clerks
http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/docs/cod...ated_Oct07.pdf

I think she has 'overstepped her mark' by advising the parents to complain.
(and possibly breached some others to - eg 'impartiality').

When magistrates dealt with child maintenance cases, I had dealings with them professionally. Even back then they regarded themselves as 'tin gods' and 'they who must be obeyed'.
They regarded lay magistrates as amateurs who needed to be told what to do (and what verdict to return)

It looks like the old ways persist here.

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well i shall write to that dept, accyman n would hope many do. n letters are not usually summat i can be bothered wi.:(

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hopefully they will get enough letters and realise how badly this clown has overstepped her mark

the only people objecting to them been called scum are the scum and christine dean where as the rest of the people who have read this story fully support mr molly its just a pitty his fellow magistrates havnt shown him the support he deserves by walking out until he is reinstated and her sacked

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If the Koran had been defaced, I think the outcome would have been slightly different.

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Funnily enough there was an asian guy on news at 6-30 BBC, saying the guy was out of order, made me wonder what nationality the 2 offenders where?:confused:

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I think Christine Dean should be the one facing the outcry & not Mr Molloy, her performance in the Court far outstripped her remit. As to these 2 youths they deserved their epithet & more, furthermore the "Parents" should be ashamed of themselves & the neglect they have shown their offspring by not instilling basic tenets of decency, politeness & acceptable standards of social behaviour. A truly poor example of modern day Britain.

As to writing a letter, I wonder if e-mail is acceptable ?

Her Majesty's Courts Service - Court Information and Addresses

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email and snail mail sent :)

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the fella was on GMTV this morning, i totally agree with everything he said

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See, these things, and the support, do get reported.

'A Facebook page, the Austin Malloy Magistrate Support Group!, has attracted 377 supporters.'
The Press Association: Magistrate stands by 'scum' comment

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119552431412691

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I totally agree with his last statement that Ms Dean's remarks have brought the Magistrates into disrepute, if she had anything to say they should have retired to their chambers to discuss it, not her showboating in open court. Will any action be taken against this stupid woman, well I've just taken a look out of the window and cant see pigs flying yet:mad:

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I have e-mailed.....not sure how much good it will do.

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lol iv just noticed how they got caught they signed their name in the visitors book so i guess it was unfair to call them scum and they should have been called thick scum

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Half wit thick scum is better;)

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Have also sent an e-mail to HMCS Blackburn, it may not get an answer or response but at least they are getting direct feedback about how folk feel.

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I think we can have a pretty good guess Cashy!...I'll also bet it was that what influenced the clerks intervention too!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Its no wonder kids behave as they do when they know they have idiots like this woman supporting and advising them!!

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not sure taggy, but he was the only person interviewed that was for em.:confused:

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A couple of comments from people on the Facebook group have indicated that the lads were Asian but i dont know if there's any knowledge about that on their part, or if they're just guessing!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Actually lads, the two idiots were white. It still doesn't detract from what they've done though.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Demoted...the magistrate who dared to call teenage vandals ‘absolute scum’

The teenagers scribbled racist and sexually-abusive graffiti in prayer books, and bent a priceless John The Baptist cross out of shape, causing £3,000 damage.
The two white vandals were caught after writing their own names in the visitors’ book, Blackburn Magistrates’ Court heard. The insults included: “I will kill all Jews” and lurid comments about “the vicar”.

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The way things are today Dave no doubt their dotting parents will feel very proud of their little darlings, maybe if these parents were made to pay for the little brats misdemeanors they may decide to teach them a lesson, if they're unable to frequent the pub every night and smoke their 40 fags a day because of their off springs crimes it may just focus their minds a little :mad:

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Far from it


Dad of East Lancs yob branded 'scum' backs magistrate (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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:eek:That must be a first Dave, makes a change to read something like this, if only all parents took this approach, but sadly he is in a very small minority

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I was heartened to read the report of the father agreeing with the Magistrate.
It seems that these boys are from church going families...one of them professing the Catholic faith....so not muslims at all.

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I don't think this incident will do much for the cause of Anglican reconciliation with Rome.

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it gets worse

the courts are well aware of the majority of peoples opinion on this matter and instead of dropping this stupid witch hunt they have stepped it up a notch and are now launching an investigation into the poor guy

whats to investigate do they think he has logge dinto facebook multiple times making fake comments of support, wrote numerous letters and emails under many fake identities

these halfwits must think we all agree with teh stupid cow that reported him

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send the courts to accyweb.

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They wouldn't last two minutes on here cashy ask Jambutty:D

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Just a point of note, when this event happened I wrote/e-mailed to Blackburn Magistrates, well today I got a reply ! Typically they like most any other official organ have replied without replying see for yourselves :-

: 18 May 2010 17:08
To: LN-BlackburnMcEnq
Subject: Judge Malloy


Dear Sir/Madame,
having read & seen the reports & then seeing your actions
reference this man, I find myself even more disillusioned & disbelieving
of the state of the once proud Country where offensive behaviour is
tolerated above decency.

The Man was stating the views of the many, but there is so much
bending over backwards in the pathetic persuit of PC in the Country,
that he ends up suffering consequences which should never have been
applied to him.

If anyone should be reprimanded it should be that excuse of a
clerk Ms.Christine Dean, who in her sickening & sycophantic outburst
appeased all that is wrong with todays Britain, SHE I repeat SHE should
be the one facing action, firstly for contempt & secondly overstepping
her remit & position in said Court. She has seen fit to override the
views of the resident judges & encouraged the ""offended"" parties to
seek to take action.

I wonder about Ms.Deans integrity, I really do, she is there to
support the execution of the laws of the land not to deride & undermine
them as she so blatantly did, The woman should be expelled !! & the
Judge re-instated immediately.

Yours in Disbelief MR.D.W.Williams.

Reply :-

Thank you for your communication concerning what was said by Mr Molloy
JP on 20 May 2010, when dealing with two youths who were charged with
criminal damage (desecration of items within Blackburn Cathedral). At
this hearing the two youths were found guilty and when sentencing them
Mr Molloy remarked that "normal people would consider you absolute
scum." The Legal Adviser, who has responsibility for managing the
courtroom, felt that these comments were inappropriate.

Since that date this incident has featured in the local and national
press as well as television interviews given by Mr Molloy.
Unfortunately, there has been some inaccurate reporting by the Media,
which has been unhelpful. The position is that in accordance with normal
procedure, an investigation will be carried out by the Local Advisory
Committee in relation to what Mr Molloy said. He has not been suspended
from his magisterial duties but has stood down from sitting as a
Chairman whilst this investigation is pending. I cannot comment further
on this issue. In relation to the Legal Adviser, this is an internal
issue for Her Majesty's Courts Service to investigate and deal with
internally. We do not comment on any internal matter.

I trust that the above information clarifies the position.


So there you have it officialdom at its best ! :rolleyes:

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Be honest Dave, did ya expect owt else?:rolleyes: cos i wouldn't have.;)

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To be honest Cashy, No ! Seeing the way things are run in UK it just really irks that common sense doesn't prevail more often & every time it's the same miserable performance, those with decent intentions & attitudes are turned over to the benefit of the deadbeats.

Like I've said elsewhere, until there is a drastic turn around in the fortunes & attitudes of the Country I sadly won't be coming Home to stay, but I'll continue to visit.

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I had a copy of the same response and I thanked them for the response and sent this in reply:-
Thank you for you response to my e-mail.
While I understand that the media may have mis - represented elements of this case, it was no less perturbing to hear that this man had been penalised in this way, while the Legal Adviser appeared not to have been reprimanded for a comment made in open court(allegedly).
I hope that Austin Molloy will continue his good work on the bench, and that the legal investigation will be swift in coming to a conclusion. We need people who have a firm grip on the realities of life, who can reprimand these vandals in language that they understand.
If this makes the vandals in question, think for one minute about the consequences of their ill thought out actions, then a good deed will have been done.
Sincerely.
Margaret Pilkington

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Those are the sentiments of any right thinking people Margaret, but obviously not those who really matter, court officials