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shillelagh 19-05-2010 17:24

24hr drinking reviewed..
 
The 24 hour drinking licensing is to be reviewed..

Labour's 24 hour drinking laws could be scrapped - Telegraph

now theresa may voted against it when it was brought in do you think she'll keep it ...

dont really bother me .. i dont go to pubs now that much .. but isnt it hard enough for pubs as it is ..

what do you think it should go back to opening at 12 -3 .. and then opening at 5pm till 11 pm

DaveinGermany 19-05-2010 19:54

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Its not so much to do with the licensing laws as the attitude of people to Alcohol in the UK. I don't know why, but the emphasis appears to be on drinking to extremes & highly alcoholic concoctions which lead to complete lack of self control & respect ? Not everyone, but amongst younger age groups it seems overtly prevalent.

If you look at the rest of Europe (specifically Holland & Germany as I spend a fair amount of time in these Countries)They have places where the Pubs/Bars are open from 05:00 in the morning & in general the pubs/Bars will stay open until 02:00 or even 03:00 without half the problems experienced in UK.

They are in no way free of drunken & abusive people, but the numbers & occasions are not as obvious. When something does happen the necessary services respond well & quickly without the carry on witnessed with British drunks. I believe that this is due to there still being respect for a uniform service irrespective of it being Police, Ambulance or Fire (They have their own paramedics) but this I feel is lacking in UK & therefore part of the problem.

Mancie 19-05-2010 20:07

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Bloody hell.. this lot have only been in five minutes and they've already made sure we can't vote them out for 5 years..now they want to repeal drinking laws...Oliver Cromwell would be proud of them..next thing you know they will ban Christmas.:D

cashman 19-05-2010 20:19

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 816071)
Bloody hell.. this lot have only been in five minutes and they've already made sure we can't vote them out for 5 years..now they want to repeal drinking laws...Oliver Cromwell would be proud of them..next thing you know they will ban Christmas.:D

Only if Nick agrees.:D if they want to be democratic they should ask the "Landlords @ Tenents" but thats too obvious.:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 19-05-2010 20:44

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 816071)
now they want to repeal drinking laws

That's you knackered then! ;)

Margaret Pilkington 19-05-2010 20:46

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This may have a beneficial effect for pubs.......if they close for a period of time during the day then they will not have to employ staff to serve customers...cutting down the overheads.......remember the licensing laws will apply to other outlets too...so maybe this will cause a return to going out to the pub for a drink.

cashman 19-05-2010 20:51

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 816091)
This may have a beneficial effect for pubs.......if they close for a period of time during the day then they will not have to employ staff to serve customers...cutting down the overheads.......remember the licensing laws will apply to other outlets too...so maybe this will cause a return to going out to the pub for a drink.

MAY being the key word, thats why i'm saying they should talk to the landlords/tenents etc in the first instance, enough pubs/clubs are really struggling as it is.;)

Margaret Pilkington 19-05-2010 21:03

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You are right Cashy, it might just be too late to save many pubs because the drinking habits of the population have changed over the years.

Mancie 19-05-2010 21:07

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 816090)
That's you knackered then! ;)

Not really.. I see it as a challenge to my human rights.;)

Wynonie Harris 19-05-2010 21:13

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 816103)
Not really.. I see it as a challenge to my human rights.;)

Me too, mate, and if my rights to get a beer are denied because the pubs are closed, I'll be getting Cherie on the case!

cmonstanley 19-05-2010 21:37

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this could see the return of night clubs.part of the real reason for the decline of pubs is the overheads put on by the companies who took over from the breweries who want to bleed the landlord dry, punch etc.

Mancie 19-05-2010 21:46

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 816111)
this could see the return of night clubs

To right Stan...it could even mean the return of....

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...s_superman.jpg

Tennents Superman!

Tealeaf 19-05-2010 23:18

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Boozing is in our DNA. Read your Tacitus (with reference to Caesar). It's simply a question of control. Sometimes we do it - sometimes not. It tends to run in cycles. In a few years time, the social landscape will probably involve minimum pricing on alcohol sales, no town centre 18 hour pubs, breath tests on suspected drunks and compulsory tea dances for the under 25 unemployables.

Ken Moss 20-05-2010 06:24

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Whatever is reported in the press, I can't see the chaos that has been caused by 24 hour licensing and have never been able to understand the furore over it.

Pubs can't afford to stay open 24 hours and there comes a cutoff when it simply isn't viable to be open anyway. Add to that the recession and a general lack of money for people to get wazzed up 24/7, plus the greed of the breweries who are really killing off the pub trade and there isn't much of a problem.

Unless someone can tell me otherwise, I understand that it hasn't made one iota of a difference in the hospitals of a weekend either so who exactly are they remaking these laws to please?

jaysay 20-05-2010 09:06

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 816071)
Bloody hell.. this lot have only been in five minutes and they've already made sure we can't vote them out for 5 years..now they want to repeal drinking laws...Oliver Cromwell would be proud of them..next thing you know they will ban Christmas.:D

There will be no Christmas this year Mancie there will be two boxing days:D:p

jaysay 20-05-2010 09:09

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 816103)
Not really.. I see it as a challenge to my human rights.;)

Does that kick in when your sober Mancie

jaysay 20-05-2010 09:11

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 816115)
To right Stan...it could even mean the return of....

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...s_superman.jpg

Tennents Superman!

So you believe in the reincarnation to Mancie:D

jaysay 20-05-2010 09:14

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Don't know how they manage with 24 hour drinking these days, in my day there were big enough head the balls with the old licencing laws, there being one or two on here including me:D:D

cashman 20-05-2010 09:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816169)
Don't know how they manage with 24 hour drinking these days, in my day there were big enough head the balls with the old licencing laws, there being one or two on here including me:D:D

true, but most head the balls grow out of it at some point,:D

jaysay 20-05-2010 10:38

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 816179)
true, but most head the balls grow out of it at some point,:D

YA Reght:D

cmonstanley 20-05-2010 11:07

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http://www.cannyscot.com/6_sandra_red.jpg or even a return to these on the cans:D

DaveinGermany 21-06-2010 06:56

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Is this really going to work do you think ? Or is it just going to put Pubs & Landlords under more pressure & so lead to more of them chucking the towel in & calling it a day = more jobless ?

Late-night bars and pubs face levy to meet cost of policing binge drinkers | UK news | The Observer

jaysay 21-06-2010 08:48

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 823548)
Is this really going to work do you think ? Or is it just going to put Pubs & Landlords under more pressure & so lead to more of them chucking the towel in & calling it a day = more jobless ?

Late-night bars and pubs face levy to meet cost of policing binge drinkers | UK news | The Observer

I'd sooner increase the fines for the idiots who cause trouble after drinking, make them fund the policing of their own actions not hard pressed licensee trying to earn a living

cashman 21-06-2010 08:58

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 823558)
I'd sooner increase the fines for the idiots who cause trouble after drinking, make them fund the policing of their own actions not hard pressed licensee trying to earn a living

agreed, its another example of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.:rolleyes:

jaysay 21-06-2010 09:09

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 823562)
agreed, its another example of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.:rolleyes:

Its the same old story cashy, penalise everybody for the few numpties, why should ordinary law abiding citizens have to foot the bill,(because any new tariffs will be passed on the the customer) for people who can't hold their drink. I can honestly say that I have never been in bother with the law for drinking, (well for that matter nothing else either) and in my prime I could drink with the best of um and often did;)


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