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What is it about Bradford/Leeds that gives rise to these nutters? At least this time the cops have an arrest, but even so it's one confirmed dead, two missing and possibly another three.

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was wondering that meself, still it is yorkshire.:eek:

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Aye, I think it's in their DNA. Best thing to do is build a 100ft wall around the place. Savages, the lot of 'em. It wouldn't surprise me if this character turned out to be a Leeds United football steward.

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Haven't heard about this Tealeaf have given up on the news, have you got a link

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Should be on t'telly news. The Sun will be running it as headline news tomorrow (make a change from The Mail).

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Here you go Jays.

Suspected serial killer questioned over murder of three prostitutes in Bradford - Telegraph

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I thought there was a wall around the place, if there isn't, then like Tealeaf says there should be, then we know where all the retards are.
Retlaw.

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What,s happening in the world to day when i was small i dont think there was has much bad things like this going on.

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Unfortunately there will have been but, you had the luxury of being cushioned by innocence back then, such things passed most of us by.

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agree not many had a telly either, or the net.

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I don't know what period you mean when you say when you were small mallard, but the original Yorkshire Ripper started his vile deeds in the mid 70's..Christie in the 50's.

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Seems like there are a lot of guys offing hookers ... we had one in British Columbia, Robert Pickton, who was convicted of 6 murders, is accused in 20 more, and suspected in even more ... all hookers:confused: I'm starting to feel real sorry for these girls ... just when you think your life can't get any crappier, the john pulls out a knife or a gun instead of his wallet.

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West Yorkshire police were last night checking missing persons files. It was reported that they were investigating three more unsolved murders possibly linked to the case. Mr Griffiths, 40, who is studying criminal justice, specialising in homicide, is a postgraduate student with a degree in psychology.

The bachelor lives in Bradford’s red light district. One neighbour said he would walk around in a long black leather coat and boast he was doing a “PhD in Jack the Ripper”.

On a social networking website, there is an entry under his alleged alter-ego of “Ven Pariah” saying he is “the misanthrope who brought hate into heaven”.

It is understood that Mr Griffiths was detained after detectives studied CCTV footage from the city centre over the weekend, when Miss Blamires went

Daily Telegraph

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well if it is him, at least the police have moved a damn site quicker than with sutcliffe. unless its another accidental arrest.

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Does send a shudder down the spine cashy when it brings back memories of Sutcliffe, it appears he used to use a transport cafe in Burnley at the same time as I was using it, think it was called Betties near the Turf:(

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I must admit, I feel annoyed that any woman should be treated so badly, just because she is a prostitute, she doesn't have, 'use once, none recyclable', written on her forehead!

The Television this morning had been out and interviewed the dregs of the earth for some reason, surely not all women that sell themselves are heroin addicts and alcoholics?

Even if true, they all have the right, just like a bathroom, to be left the way you found them, so for these Ladies that means, ALIVE.
:o

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It does aggravate me that the victims are first described as prostitutes, by the media, who relish a story like this.

First and foremost they are human beings, who are female.

The BBC programme last month, Five Daughters, based on the lives of the five women who were killed in Ipswich, illustrated quite movingly that they were someone's daughters, sisters, grandaughters, and mums. Just ordinary young women, who for whatever reason chose the wrong path in life, and whose addictions led them onto the streets.

Morally I've nothing against prostitution. It's never going to go away. I even saw a recent documentary about the thriving street prostitution industry in the Islamic state of Iran. I do think more comprehensive legislation would afford the sex workers more safety.

However most of the women, and men, who work in prostitution don't do it from choice, and charge five grand per night, there's only a few in the Heather Mills league, most do it because of poverty, and it being the quickest way they can pay for their next fix.

Sadly, as long as we have vunerable people, plying their trade on the streets, there'll always be some inadequate sicko who see them as easy prey.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...ne-review.html

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yer quite right rindy, nowt changes, old chestnut i know, but simple fact is theres no real deterant to these sick gets. basically what they got to fear?:(

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Nothing to fear.

Claim 'the voices made me do it', and spend the rest of your days nicely fed and watered, in a well appointed secured hospital, revelling in your noteriety.

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Exactly!!! Top the gets n have done wi it.:(

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Very true, the sick murdering scumbags are intent on killing...they have a preference for murdering women and prostitutes are the easiest prey.. but as in the case of Sutcliffe they will attack any women given the opportunity.
In this case 3 or more women go missing with no explianation but there's no big nationwide media appeal to find them.. then body parts start turning up but the first the public hear about it is when this monster has been arrested.

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I agree.

All the Sutcliffe victims are tarred with the prostitute tag, because of the media, even though some weren't, and it's now widely believed that one victim was a male taxi driver.

What they did may have made them more vunerable, but doesn't make their deaths any less sad and horrific for their loved ones.

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thats oh so true mancie, reports say 3 maybe more, but their only possers is the attitude of the police.:rolleyes: personally until the other day i was not aware 3 were missing.:cool:

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Individually these vunerable people are killed, attacked, and raped, every week of the year.

The media only gets itself into a frenzy when two or more of these murders are linked, then they can make the most of a big brouhaha, about the latest 'serial killer' headline story.

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I didn't knopw anything about this either until Tealeaf posted it on here. I also wondered why it wasn't all over the news until he'd been arrested:confused:

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Of the estimated 80,000 people involved in prostitution in the UK, up to 5,000 children may be involved at any one time, with a female to male ratio of four to one. [Home Office (2004), Paying the price]

More than half of women in prostitution have been raped and or seriously assaulted and at least 75% have been physically assaulted at the hands of the pimps and punters. 74% of women in prostitution identify poverty, the need to pay household expenses and support their children, as primary motivators for being drawn into prostitution. [Home office (2004)

Up to 75% of women involved in prostitution began when they were under 18 years of age and most teenage prostitutes are involved in street prostitution, which is estimated to be ten times more dangerous than working from houses or flats. [Benson, C. and Matthews, R. (1995)

Victims of child sexual abuse are 27.7 times more likely to be arrested for prostitution as adults than non-victims. [Widom, C.S. 1995. Victims of Childhood Sexual Abuse-Later Criminal Consequences.]

Women in prostitution are 18 times more likely to be murdered than the general population. [Hard Knock Life, New Philanthropy Capital 2007]

It is estimated that as many as 95% of women involved in prostitution have a drug or alcohol addiction. [Melrose, M. (2002),]

80,000 women work in 'on-street' prostitution in the UK. The average age women become involved being just 12yrs old. [Home Office, Paying the Price. A consultation paper on prostitution, 2004]

Prostitution : AVA - Against Violence & Abuse

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This is currently the case in certain parts of North West Europe (Germany & Holland) were the girls work of their own free will & are registered, the police know them (especially in Hamburg) & look out for them. They have unions & pay taxes, are checked on a regular basis by Doctors & all seems to function quite well.

But due to the influx of Criminal elements from Russia & Eastern Europe, more & more Young girls are being forced into & brutalized to take part against their wishes. These Girls tend to be the victims more often than not in crimes against prostitutes as they have no support network, are held to ransom through drugs/money/retention of passports, by these Criminal gangs.

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Unfortunately that's just how things have gone eve since Silverman's bill to abolish hanging became law, there is no deterrent any more, when they did away with the DP, it should have been replaced with Life imprisonment Life meaning Life not 12 years or so. Then they tried to tell us that the likes of Brady and Sutcliffe were mentally deranged, ya reght. we now have vile sods like Ian Huntley living the life of Riley game boys colour tvs sky tv stereo anything he wants all at our expense, what ever happened to breaking up rocks 8 hours a day 7 days a week, but I forget these people have rights, more bloody rights than the law abiding citizens of this country:mad:

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I must admit there is one aspect of this case that I find rather puzzling. Depending on which media organ you read or watch, the victims are described as either prostitutes or sex workers (and in some instances as both). Now I am aware of what a prostiture is, but could some of you please enlighten me as to what is a 'sex worker'? Is she a prostitute who is fully legit and pays her tax and NI like any respectable citizen? Or is she someone employed by the local government or health authority - like a social worker - to provide certain services to gentlemen of need?

It would appear that one of the victims was a regular visitor to an Old Folks home in Bradford. What is the financial arrangement for such services? Is it all paid for by the ratepayer or is there a nominal contribution made by the recipient of such services? Does Hyndburn Council offer a similar arrangement? Answers, please.

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From what I understand, they leave a small deposit.
:rolleyes:

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A man charged with the murders of three Bradford women has referred to himself as the "crossbow cannibal" in court.

Stephen Griffiths, 40, is accused of murdering prostitutes Suzanne Blamires, Shelley Armitage, and Susan Rushworth.

BBC

Looks like he's going to run the "Voices in the head" defence

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:eek::eek:Wasn't me Alud it was the voices I tell you, the Voices:mad: Bollards

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Voices in the head? Thats what Sutcliffe said...and he first heard those voices when he was working as a gravedigger in the Bradford/Shipley cemetery, back in the mid '70s. That cemetery lies almost adjacent to the River Aire, slightly upriver from where the body parts where found.

Spooky, innit!

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that bloke just wanted to be 'famous' he was studying psychology and was 'into' infamous murderers......who else gives themselves a name like that, me thinks he'd read too many books

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Prostitution has been here since time began, it can never be eradicated thats simple fact, instead of the pathetic measures announced today, why don't they Legalise it? take the girls off the streets n would also bring much needed taxes into the coffers. thats my 2 pennorth, it would be much safer for the poor creatures that work it surely?

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I've yet to hear a solid argument as to why it shoud'nt be legalised and regulated properly! It would surely help control a certain ammount of drug use/abbuse, amongst young women mainly, as you say its always gonna be there, and if controlled properly, really doesn't do much harm i wouldn't say!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Thats another simple fact Taggy, theres certainly more harm done now wi it on the streets.

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Such a serious crime as this & if he can convince a 'medical' expert he's telling the truth, he'll be locked away in comfort.

I don't think using a similar excuse for doing 40 in a 30 limit would be allowed would it?

Two different extremes but both crimes.

We put mad dogs down, it's time we did it again with this type of 'mad', (he's not mad he's conniving) humans, we are worse than animals.

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So where you suggest they put the brothels ? , I'm sure you wouldn't be keen on having one next door , especially if you have children or Grandkids come over to visit , I'm sure you wouldn't mind all the visiting by "strangers" not to mention additional parking problems . :D :D

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In the days of the Shah most of the towns in the south of the country had a public brothel (think in Farsi they are called a Bosco), usually about 5 miles outside of town , a large walled compound consisting of a number of houses, entrance to the compound was through a narrow door where you were patted down for weapons/contrabend by an armed guard. Was taken to the one outside Ahwaz which catered to the oil field workers who arrived either by the bus load or 20/30 guys in the skip of a dump truck by a co-worker for a cultural visit. ......nasty place :D :D

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Do you think you could draw me a map, or will your footprints still be leading the way?
;)

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Interesting to note that Christianity is alone in condeming prostitution on moral grounds , Islam allows temporay marriages which is often used a way around any social stigma associated with prostitution
TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Temporary Marriage (Prostitution)

:D :D

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Sorry , don't leave footprints and don't cast a shadow :D :D

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The programme I saw featured prostitutes working the streets. Some took their children with them in the cars, for 'protection', in the hope they wouldn't be attacked. All the women featured were heroin addicts.

It was all filmed secretly....of course.

It's on YouTube, I've just noticed.

YouTube - Iranian Documentary : Mutah and prostitution 1/5

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In some cases the addiction comes first, in others drugs are used by the particularly nasty characters who force these women into the work - the bruises don't tend to attract "punters" but compliance is forced through addiction instead...a thoroughly nasty trade that needs sorting.

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Maybe if he knew is punishment would have been at the end of a rope, he wold probably have thought twice about it, people like this are usually cowards and dread the idea of pain being inflicted on them.

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You could use that argument to stop any business setting up in a residential area!...Who said it had to be in a residential area anyway, either way, fully legalised and run properly and professionally is going to be much preferable to how it is now, which is controlled and abused by Pimps and drug addicts and dealers!

Best Regards - Taggy

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ok the fact that now business is done in many instances outside residential property is better steely?:confused: as taggy says why does it have to be in residential areas?:confused: in fact i'm sure ya such places in certain parts of the U.S.A.? "Ranches" i think???

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I agree.

Personally I'd rather live next door to a well run, and legalised brothel, than live in a street that is plagued by kerb crawlers, harrassing people's wives, daughters, and grandaughters. As many of the areas that are red light districts now, are in ordinary residential streets, peopled by ordinary people. Certainly those neighbourhoods wouldn't be littered with as many needles, and condoms, if girls were off the streets.

I came across this the other day, when researching crime figures against prostitutes.

But last week Clare Finch, 49,, was cleared by a jury at Luton crown court of running a brothel – a decision described by some sections of the media as throwing Britain's "antiquated" prostitution laws into confusion. Finch admitted offering topless massages with "happy endings" from her bungalow in the quiet Bedfordshire village of Chalton. Up to four women worked from her home offering a range of massage and sexual services. There was no trafficking, coercion, drugs or under-age girls involved, and no public nuisance caused. Indeed, two of Finch's neighbours - one a woman of 85 - gave evidence on her behalf.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...le-brothel-law


So perhaps Steeljack underestimates what people think, when it comes to what goes on next door. As long as there's a 'happy ending'.

:D

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i dont understand were hes coming from?:confused: like i said before they have these "Ranches" in the good ole USA. so whats the differance?:confused:

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He's been living in Dollywood for too long, and has seen The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas too many times.

:rolleyes:

:D