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cmonstanley 23-06-2010 20:47

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Rishton landlord fined over eyesore house (From Lancashire Telegraph) wonder if they will catch up with the landlord who left the house empty and an eysore on orange street for 10 years:confused:

Neil 24-06-2010 07:40

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He was fined £525, handed a £15 victim surcharge and ordered to pay £100 legal costs and £3511.68 investigation and clean up costs.

If left unpaid the Coun Peter Clarke said the property would be sold within 10 months to obtain the money.
The fine is not enough and 10 months is too long.

It is good news that this has happened. I hope it is a warning to others that Hyndburn are starting to get tough on landlords.

Mick 24-06-2010 08:03

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There is just 1 house in our street that is empty and when the regeneration was going on the landlord was found and asked about having free windows and doors and fence and gates he refused all this and now looks an eye sore as it stands out from the rest of the street

Ken Moss 24-06-2010 16:21

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 824063)
The fine is not enough and 10 months is too long.

It is good news that this has happened. I hope it is a warning to others that Hyndburn are starting to get tough on landlords.

There is an awful lot of pussyfooting around when it comes to landlords.

A block on Spring Street in Rishton is now so decrepit as to be a danger but has been in such a state for around 11 years. Several notices have already been served on the landlords (in Manchester) which have been ignored and the stance is that we must give them sufficient time. 11 years isn't enough?

It has dragged an entire area down, Hyndburn needs blanket legislation and fast. The decent landlords actually want the scheme, even though it will cost them more money.

Restless 24-06-2010 20:34

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bit much when where talking about great harwood haha

g jones 24-06-2010 21:35

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I worked with Rochdale, Salford and Manchester Councils, the CHA Agency as it was then, and Phil Woolas MP when he was the minister to bring this legislation to Hyndburn.

I did a full opposition debate with a presentation that took a lot of time and effort and was laughed and mocked at loudly by Councillor Clarke and Councillor Britcliffe plus others for the whole 15 minutes.

I am glad these people have seen the foolishness of their actions and are doing what they were asked to do back then for the public who are fed up of this sort of problem.

The fact it has taken 4 years to get the message through is frustrating and yes it's the same answer again, why can't we have a Labour Council for this would have been done 3 years ago and would now be being done across the whole borough.

cmonstanley 24-06-2010 21:54

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there seems to be a general leniency towards certain slum landlords in hyndburn,plus what about the landlords who quickly bought as many houses in the regeneration areas just before the regeneration areas were anounced:rolleyes::rolleyes::confused:

g jones 24-06-2010 21:58

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I did the presentation on tackling visual blight on 23 January 2007 though I did table it the last meeting in 2006.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...107_minute.pdf

I have to say we have still got much further to go. The original proposition I put forward highlighted the huge advantages of the Law of Property Act 1925 and this property is the first chance The Council are taking to use it almost three and half years later.

They have made mistake after mistake in getting half way to where we should be. Taking on big enforcement projects that were lost expensively in court (Monroes) when advised not too, refusing to do works in default for 2 years, understaffing underestimating the problem, failure to get departments to collaborate or enforce the laws seriously, misunderstanding of the law completely and giving poor advice, refusing training for staff, allocating just one part time staff, failure of leadership to recognise the opportunities, failure to extend enforcement and a failure to find solutions for arson and boarded up properties despite them being outside of the law.

cmonstanley 24-06-2010 21:59

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what i heard is they buy a couple of houses on the street leave them to rack and ruin bringing down house prices so they can buy half the street when they come up for sale.

g jones 24-06-2010 22:04

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 824188)
there seems to be a general leniency towards certain slum landlords in hyndburn,plus what about the landlords who quickly bought as many houses in the regeneration areas just before the regeneration areas were anounced:rolleyes::rolleyes::confused:

True.

There is a lax attitude by Conservatives. The issue is not a real priority to them despite the headline in the press because of the lack of substantive borough wide action.

We should be on the ball, quick to act on behalf of residents with enough staff (2 or 3?) to act. This is a question of existing legislation.

g jones 24-06-2010 22:09

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 824190)
what i heard is they buy a couple of houses on the street leave them to rack and ruin bringing down house prices so they can buy half the street when they come up for sale.

Not sure they do that but I cannot speak for them.

What I do know is they buy them, put up a crappy partition and call it three bedroom to get an extra £10k and other devious falsifications from the district valuer.

The Coalition have also scrapped plans for a national landlords register and tougher regulations for letting agents.

daisychain 18-07-2010 21:18

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HEy! What about the eyesore of the empty houses just off Hyndburn road in Accrington. Anyone kno what is happening there?

g jones 19-07-2010 16:53

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Top end Steiner Street, partial demolition. Bottom end Russia Street on facelift grants. Council has just received circa £7.7m to do them up.
Bit of a delay with the coalition budget.

abara 11-08-2010 12:16

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 829906)
Top end Steiner Street, partial demolition. Bottom end Russia Street on facelift grants. Council has just received circa £7.7m to do them up.
Bit of a delay with the coalition budget.

By "Top end Steiner Street" do you mean nearest to Blackburn Road. If so do you know if Platts Social Club is going to be demolished? What will they replace houses with -more new houses:confused:

Studio25 11-08-2010 13:04

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I think the council threatened the owner of the site of Great Harwood's derelict old firestation that they would tear down what's left of it, clear the site, and then bill him. Apparently, he did it himself, redeveloped the site into some apartments, and because they weren't occupied within two weeks the local scrotes have done in all the windows and filled the interior with graffiti.

It would probably have been cheaper to let the council do the work...

Restless 11-08-2010 13:20

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no its the bottom end near to hyndburn road

apparently i heard they are building mosque on Steiner Street. But have run out of funding ?

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Originally Posted by abara (Post 836225)
By "Top end Steiner Street" do you mean nearest to Blackburn Road. If so do you know if Platts Social Club is going to be demolished? What will they replace houses with -more new houses:confused:


Jim Procter 11-08-2010 13:36

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I have not been back to my home town for over 60 years. In the Thirties we lived in Hyndburn Street. In the Forties we lived in Duke Street Clayton. They were nice little places to live back then.
I wanted to see what my old home town looked like now. So I went on Google and looked up all the old streets that I knew back then. I was appalled.Everywhere was a DUMP. What have you done to Accrington? Who are the vandals responsible? I thought that we had Slums back in the Thirties but now you have Slums all over the place. You all ought to be ashamed for allowing your town to be treated like this. Get your fingers out and get something done.

Benipete 11-08-2010 14:18

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Originally Posted by Jim Procter (Post 836245)
I have not been back to my home town for over 60 years. In the Thirties we lived in Hyndburn Street. In the Forties we lived in Duke Street Clayton. They were nice little places to live back then.
I wanted to see what my old home town looked like now. So I went on Google and looked up all the old streets that I knew back then. I was appalled.Everywhere was a DUMP. What have you done to Accrington? Who are the vandals responsible? I thought that we had Slums back in the Thirties but now you have Slums all over the place. You all ought to be ashamed for allowing your town to be treated like this. Get your fingers out and get something done.

My daughter lives on Hyndburn St.
The St. was due to be given a face lift but the cash ran out.However most of the streets off Blackburn Road have been completed and look much better than before.:hothothot

Some of us have carpets and cupboards now and I'm led to believe that gas and electricity is well on It's way.:alright:

There is even talk of television and a thing called video but we will have to wait and see.:hehetable

Restless 11-08-2010 14:22

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sorry i couldn't help but lmao at your post

karma given!!

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Originally Posted by Jim Procter (Post 836245)
So I went on Google and looked up all the old streets that I knew back then. I was appalled.Everywhere was a DUMP. What have you done to Accrington? Who are the vandals responsible? I thought that we had Slums back in the Thirties but now you have Slums all over the place. You all ought to be ashamed for allowing your town to be treated like this. Get your fingers out and get something done.


cashman 11-08-2010 15:27

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Originally Posted by Jim Procter (Post 836245)
I have not been back to my home town for over 60 years. In the Thirties we lived in Hyndburn Street. In the Forties we lived in Duke Street Clayton. They were nice little places to live back then.
I wanted to see what my old home town looked like now. So I went on Google and looked up all the old streets that I knew back then. I was appalled.Everywhere was a DUMP. What have you done to Accrington? Who are the vandals responsible? I thought that we had Slums back in the Thirties but now you have Slums all over the place. You all ought to be ashamed for allowing your town to be treated like this. Get your fingers out and get something done.

you ought to be ashamed, yeh aint been back in oer 60yrs n gobbing off about summat yeh obviously know sod all about, still suppose theres know-alls everywhere.:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 11-08-2010 15:46

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I suppose that's what living in Yorkshire does to you - it pickles yer brain.

MargaretR 11-08-2010 15:49

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It is very easy to do a virtual tour of the all streets and roads using google maps.
The photos may be 3 years old but they can give a true reflection of the state of our town.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...139.98,,0,6.13

cashman 11-08-2010 15:56

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 836264)
It is very easy to do a virtual tour of the all streets and roads using google maps.
The photos may be 3 years old but they can give a true reflection of the state of our town.
Accrington BB5, United Kingdom - Google Maps

you must be one of the "All" thats ashamed of yerself then? i refuse to take insults like that off a prat like him, you may if ya wish.:rolleyes:

MargaretR 11-08-2010 16:05

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That may mislead because demolition was happening, but how about this one
Accrington BB5, United Kingdom - Google Maps

MargaretR 11-08-2010 16:06

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There are plenty of eyesore undesirable areas - why not admit it?

cashman 11-08-2010 16:15

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 836270)
There are plenty of eyesore undesirable areas - why not admit it?

i have on previous threads, what i will not have is him saying we all must be ashamed, if that suits you fine.!

MargaretR 11-08-2010 16:18

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 836274)
i have on previous threads, what i will not have is him saying we all must be ashamed, if that suits you fine.!

We keep voting back in, a tory council which lets it happen, so indirectly, collectively, we are responsible.

cashman 11-08-2010 16:23

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 836275)
We keep voting back in, a tory council which lets it happen, so indirectly, collectively, we are responsible.

sorry never voted tory in my life, he refers to "You All" ya can make all the excuses fer him ya wish, i won't.

odders 11-08-2010 17:26

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 836264)
It is very easy to do a virtual tour of the all streets and roads using google maps.
The photos may be 3 years old but they can give a true reflection of the state of our town.

and this is why google streetview is wrong and can not be used as a source of reference, unless it is used as history. 3 years is a long time in development,and some photos are 4 years, check out the satellite views,(they were took over 10 years ago) I have had 3 cars and a front extension, since the photo outside my house was took over 2 years ago, so how many houses are boarded and what area's have improved since they took those pictures?

If ever there is a good time to enter the photo comp here it is...;)

Restless 11-08-2010 17:36

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hmm i thought you would of been of the opinion that the political party's are puppets being manipulated by the same pair of hands :D

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 836275)
We keep voting back in, a tory council which lets it happen, so indirectly, collectively, we are responsible.


MargaretR 11-08-2010 17:40

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 836295)
hmm i thought you would of been of the opinion that the political party's are puppets being manipulated by the same pair of hands :D

We are discussing local politics here - different ball game - though national policies (by way of grants) can influence how some local decisions are made.

accysimon 15-08-2010 13:51

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What makes me laugh is that Cllr Britcliffe complained he wasn't get enough money from the Labour Government towards regeneration etc, yet now, when the budget was cut completely by the coalition, and he was given no government money, he blames the Labour government for overspending. So, they either overspent, or didn't give him enough...which is it??

Ken Moss 16-08-2010 22:04

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Originally Posted by accysimon (Post 837486)
What makes me laugh is that Cllr Britcliffe complained he wasn't get enough money from the Labour Government towards regeneration etc, yet now, when the budget was cut completely by the coalition, and he was given no government money, he blames the Labour government for overspending. So, they either overspent, or didn't give him enough...which is it??

Britcliffe is the Spinmaster General.

If you questioned him on anything it would be the opposition's fault, specifically Graham Jones for owning two houses.

Well it's worked so far, why change a winning formula?

'Why did Hyndburn Council waste over £600k on the Hyndburn Life Website?'

'Because of Graham Jones....er, 13 years of Labour rule.....the previous administration.'

Peter Britcliffe, predictable as ever, only interested in seeing himself in the paper and sod the lot of you poor proles. He's even grafted a canoe onto his torso for last week's Observer.....


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