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I've said it before and I stand by it... the present Government are intent on convincing the population that we are so skint we must adopted some sort of banana republic economic policy... is this the road to go down?

Ministers consider scheme to hand out food vouchers to unemployed | Politics | The Guardian

I suspect some of the same old carping about how the last Government got us into this position.. but come on...by the time this lot have have finished we will have a third world economy.

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Bermondsey would be thrilled to attain third world status.

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Maybe.. and I'm sure if you could find time to visit the area, you would be glad to tell us of our new found status..;)

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Of course I've been there, for a short visit.

I've been everywhere.

I helped promote the campaign to clear landmines in the area, and I also handed out pie, mash, and liquor to the poor.

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cor blimey!.. you ain't Simon Hughes bit on the side by any chance?

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There's no need to be bitter.

Simon Hughes is who you poor folk decided you wanted to represent you, across the murky waters of the Thames, in Westminster.

Nothing to do with me.

By the way, when I bountifully doled out succor to the needy of Bermondsey, you were asleep in your doorway, surrounded by your bottles, ready to be recycled, I presume.

Not wanting the pie and mash to get cold, before you awakened from your slumbers, I did leave you some tasty jellied eels.

They were being eyed-up by a scrawny looking pigeon, when I left, so I've no idea if you benefited from my largesse.

Life can be very cruel.

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Jellied eels are not cheap they are not the diet of any low paid in London.. but this is about the whole country... life can be cruel .. like I say come down to Bermondsey and tell us how we shoild live..

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Cheerfully.

Like dirty, dusty, smog breathing, sparrows.

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Now there is a qoute I feel obliged to copy n paste


be lucky

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Good old Bermondsey. Seem to remember getting one of the best ever takeaways from a Chinese called The Slow Boat. Mmmm, crispy duck and prawn crackers, it's all flooding back.

Anyway, about this third world business - here in Hyndburn we have our own future crisis brewing as Cllr Britcliffe's hand hovers over the 'Buy It Now' button for everything he can blow before next year's elections. Still, all those Observer column inches telling us oodles of good news now will make tremendous chip wrappers tomorrow. Pity we won't have enough money for the chips and that includes you, St Andrews.

I think a trip to the Area Council meeting on 14th July is in order.....

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I might see you there then.

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out of order.. and if you live long enough you will wish you had not said that..

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bye all.. it's been a laugh

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Does this mean we will no longer be subjected to the red political banterings/heckling we have endured in the past?

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'THE government last night accused Labour of pursuing a “scorched earth policy” before the general election, leaving behind billions of pounds of previously hidden spending commitments.

Billions of pounds in public money was committed in the run-up to the election campaign in a deliberate strategy to boost Labour’s chances at the ballot box and sabotage the next government.

One former Labour minister told The Sunday Times: “There was collusion between ministers and civil servants to get as many contracts signed off as possible before the election was called.”

One former adviser to the schools department said there was a deliberate policy of “scorched earth”. “The atmosphere was ‘pull up all the railways, burn the grain stores, leave nothing for the Tories’,” he added.'
Labour hid ‘scorched earth’ debts worth billions - Times Online

Pathetic, and disgraceful.

With the 'joke' not being on the incoming government, but us, the poor sap tax payers.

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I hope Cllr Moss has taken the trouble to read this post G;)

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He has indeed and, as I've said before, I'm not going to be a blind party man and say that there aren't some things I wish I wasn't aligned with. This is one of them.

It's just a terrible shame that Cllr Britcliffe is planning the same trick next year and two councillors have heard this from the horse's mouth, so it seems.

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Do give Peter fair warning for me, it will give him time to send out a ruling that no councillors can attend Area Council meetings that are not in their own ward.

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No just ones from Rishton:rolleyes:;)

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very good info.. but it would have been better if you had given the information as a first response to the thread.. but you took the same old route of slagging off the thread and then posting a decent response after you have had your laugh.... well .

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So long as the truth gets out their in the end even if you don't like it Mancie:D

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Ok is this the new "truth" that takes a whole page of bullkak to get a decent response?.. or is it all a good laugh from the same old *******?.. oh I just can't help it.. does it mean we have to go through a whole page reading Gainda's untold wit and kak?

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Well I've always perceived that Garinda had a great sense wit, but the kak I leave to you Mancie;)

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As you said in the very first post of the thread you started, you've 'said it before', and other people will have therefore given their responses to your statements before, if they feel a reply is worthwhile.

Therefore why bother, and why bother getting all hurt and defensive, when others try and add a little levity to yet another of your same old/same old, threads?

:rolleyes:

:dummy2:

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Well if it's the "same old thread" then I'm floggin a dead horse.. but this is has been the norm on here for the last couple of years.. the untold slagging off of the Government..so why should it stop? looks like these days the Tories on here have done the business and taken their leave..seems nobody has much to say about the destruction ahead.. ok then.

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Ah, now I'm starting to understand the cause of your little temper tantrum...petulance! "They were horrible to my beloved government for 13 years, why aren't they being just as horrible to these filthy, capitalist, imperialist con/dems? Those nasty Accywebbers aren't playing fair!"

Don't forget, Mancie, that if Accyweb had been around in '97, I'm sure there would have been a tidal wave of optimism for the incoming Nu-Labor lot, before disillusionment set in. Circumstances are totally different now, but we're still going through the honeymoon period...give 'em time!

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The Con Demned honeymoon period hasn't lasted too long in Accrington Mr H. The Labour Party last Thursday got 76% of the vote in a by-election in Peel Ward. Which represented a swing to Labour of 4%.

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I don't think that has anything at all to do with the National political scene...but more to do with the local support enjoyed by Wendy Dwyer.
I think that we should not link local and national politics, they are horses of a totally different breed.

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If it is flogging a dead horse...and you can recognise the futility of it, then why do you still continue to do it?

The new labour party(as close to a tory party as it was ever able to get) had 13 years in which to right all the wrongs that you perceived other parties(tory) had left behind.......they made an awful job of it....now the tab has to be picked up for some of the hare brained schemes they put into place, the quangos that sucked billions of pounds of taxpayers money into the fiscal black hole.
Mancie, it is time you built that bridge!

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As an outsider, I would venture to suggest that there may have been exceptional circumstances there, Bernard, lad. The winner seems to be very highly regarded in the local community, as was the previous incumbent...and, as you've often implied in the past, local and national politics are two very different animals! ;)

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Bernard only ever does that when he thinks he's on a winner, before the GE he very rarely had anything to say about his beloved comrades in London when they were quite rightly getting a caning;)

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Only when it serves a purpose not to be;)

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And to be honest, I don't think it does anyone any favours.
It is well known that Wendy Dwyer is held in high esteem, and that she is a tireless worker for people in her locality....and that is what counts in Local elections..... a local candidate with a previous good track record.

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Unless you're based at Conservative Central Office, as they'd rather railroad one in from the coast.

Riding rough shod over any poor local Conservatives, who were desperate to stand.

:D

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Couldn't agree more Margaret, irrespective of party I know just how much work councillors put into their own wards, as far as I'm concerned thy earn every penny they get, and if anybody disagrees, my answer is have a go

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It poses the question 'What does CCO really know, or care, about the resident/constituents of Hyndburn?'

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They obviously thought they knew best, having the best chance of a win for years, and then blowing it.

:rolleyes:

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Thats why I'm no longer a member of the party Margaret

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Margaret you're right, Wendy is held in high esteem in the ward. But the election we are comparing last weeks result with,is the election of two years ago which when Graham last stood. It was Graham's seat that Wendy was defending.

And since then there has been a 4% swing to Labour. What that swing was down to, we will probably get a clearer picture on that next May when the Local Elections are held.

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The general and local elections weren't exactly a landslide victory for any party that currently holds power, nor was it a thrashing defeat for Labour. It's got to say something about the devil you know.

The situation in Westminster is mirrored here in Hyndburn. We have a Conservative majority with a lesser party tacked on to make up the numbers, although the powers that be would have us believe that they're firmly in control.

Despite all we're being told about major cutbacks (and I'll believe 40% when I see it happen) there is still appalling waste everywhere and billions of pounds being spent on immigration and the Eurozone.

Charity begins at home.

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If Harriet Harman could see your views, you'd be drummed out of the Labour party! :D

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The boot approaches......prepare the Grand Order.......

I keep telling you, Labour allows free thinking. Miles Parkinson even allows his councillors to come on Accy Web without fear of reprisals.

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Isn't that what you accuse Cllr. Britcliffe of practising?

:rolleyes:

:D

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Hmm, interesting point.

However, looking after your own with other people's money and securing votes worth a salary in excess of £60k per year might put a semantic strain on the word 'charity'.

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Let's not forget that public schools, even Eton, Cameron's old alma mater, has charitable status.

:rolleyes:

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Hell its a good job you weren't around when Brother George was Leader of HBC, when he was a director of around seven companies carrying out contract work for the council:rolleyes:

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Which around seven companies would they be. I also believe you do yourself a disservice by attacking someone who is no longer with us.

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You mean the same person your lot stabbed in the back after years of service, so much so the he ended his political career with the Lib/Dems. The companies were all registered at companies house and were connected with Barnfield Construction.

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what about this goverment denying a british firm in sheffield a loan to build nuclear reactor parts. now they are going to be made in japan ??they would have got money back in tax less benefits paid out and kept jobs in britain ,its maggie thatcher all over again.

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Err um a loan, the bloody countries over a £1 trillion in debt thanks to Blair Brown, the countries skint, they left the cupboard bare, there's not bloody money to lend anybody

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That arguement dont stand up to me at all, investment on a good payback makes far more sense cuts must be made no question, but commonsense of these new incumbents is also in question to me.

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I'm always sceptical when somebody puts a story on here without a substantive like ;)

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ya mean like verified in the "Mail"?:D

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Spot on:D

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Well, having had a look at the story surrounding this ,
Sheffield Forgemasters' nuclear ambition | In-depth | The Engineer
and here,
BBC News - Sheffield Forgemasters' £80m nuclear parts loan axed
It is very sad, yes cashy may well have a point.
I do disagree that it is back to the 80's though, any jobs through this would take a few years to come.