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jaysay 17-07-2010 09:39

Licence fee to be cut
 
Licence fee for 'wasteful' BBC will be cut - Telegraph
It appears the TV licence may be cut, that's two pieces of good news in two days, Johnathan Wross left the BBC last night too:D

cashman 17-07-2010 09:47

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2012 if it is to be cut, funny how it dont take 2 yrs to increase em.:rolleyes:

jaysay 17-07-2010 12:02

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 829452)
2012 if it is to be cut, funny how it dont take 2 yrs to increase em.:rolleyes:

The current deal is in place until 2012 cashy, nout anybody can do about that;)

cashman 17-07-2010 16:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 829470)
The current deal is in place until 2012 cashy, nout anybody can do about that;)

i seem to think there's been quite a few different things in place, that have now been cut? so why not the B.B.C.?;)

flashy 17-07-2010 16:53

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i didn't even know how much a tv license cost till my dad told me this morning, for the last 12 years i've just paid mine fortnightly, it's never really made a difference to me

jaysay 17-07-2010 17:31

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 829536)
i seem to think there's been quite a few different things in place, that have now been cut? so why not the B.B.C.?;)

Its in a contract cashy set out in 2008 I think, unlike things promised that can't be paid for, big difference;)

Ken Moss 19-07-2010 08:24

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This will probably be an unpopular thing to say but Great Britain really really needs the BBC and the licence fee. If you think that TV is crap now, just pray that the day never comes when we turn into Little America and it truly is wall-to-wall adverts and no quality programming.

Programmes such as CSI and Lost which are well-made and proved to be a worldwide success are very much in a minority. People may think that they never watch BBC stuff but it has far wider-reaching implications on the output of other channels. At the moment they need to compete with quality TV whereas they would simply spew out populist tripe 24/7 if all they had to do was garner viewers.

I know this isn't the point of the thread but it's a little hobby-horse of mine. The BBC needs to trim the dead wood and fat salaries but it's starting to cut into areas it should be leaving alone instead, such as selling off its book and audio departments to third parties.

Bad move.

cashman 19-07-2010 08:28

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no-one i think is saying they don't need the license fee, just its extortionate n needs capping or reducing.:rolleyes:

jaysay 19-07-2010 10:00

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 829810)
This will probably be an unpopular thing to say but Great Britain really really needs the BBC and the licence fee. If you think that TV is crap now, just pray that the day never comes when we turn into Little America and it truly is wall-to-wall adverts and no quality programming.

Programmes such as CSI and Lost which are well-made and proved to be a worldwide success are very much in a minority. People may think that they never watch BBC stuff but it has far wider-reaching implications on the output of other channels. At the moment they need to compete with quality TV whereas they would simply spew out populist tripe 24/7 if all they had to do was garner viewers.

I know this isn't the point of the thread but it's a little hobby-horse of mine. The BBC needs to trim the dead wood and fat salaries but it's starting to cut into areas it should be leaving alone instead, such as selling off its book and audio departments to third parties.

Bad move.

Quite a few people have got over wall to wall adverts Ken, its called Sky + :D

Ken Moss 19-07-2010 10:05

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I don't watch enough TV to warrant Sky but Freeview is bad enough.

The vast majority of my favourite programmes over the years have been from the BBC, to turn it into another commercial channel will be the death knell for Britsh television.

Some trimming of salaries is the best way of making it better value.

jaysay 19-07-2010 10:49

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 829826)
I don't watch enough TV to warrant Sky but Preview is bad enough.

The vast majority of my favourite programmes over the years have been from the BBC, to turn it into another commercial channel will be the death knell for British television.

Some trimming of salaries is the best way of making it better value.

You' have loved a program last night, after the Golf on BBC HD about old maps kept in the Library in London absolutely brilliant

Ken Moss 19-07-2010 18:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 829839)
You' have loved a program last night, after the Golf on BBC HD about old maps kept in the Library in London absolutely brilliant

That's actually my sort of programme.

Kiss that sort of thing goodbye if we lose the licence fee, it doesn't have Katie bloody Price in it.

jaysay 19-07-2010 18:04

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 829943)
That's actually my sort of programme.

Kiss that sort of thing goodbye if we lose the licence fee, it doesn't have Katie bloody Price in it.

But on the plus side we wouldn't get over paid clowns like wrossy either:rolleyes:

Ken Moss 19-07-2010 18:08

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Possibly not, but we'd end up with BBC3 being even more 'trendy' than it already is and wastes of space such as Paris Hilton being villified as top flight entertainment.

Give me David Attenborough's well-researched programmes anyday.

jaysay 19-07-2010 18:13

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 829946)
Possibly not, but we'd end up with BBC3 being even more 'trendy' than it already is and wastes of space such as Paris Hilton being villified as top flight entertainment.

Give me David Attenborough's well-researched programmes anyday.

Alas I doubt if we'll ever see "One Night In Paris" on BBC3 Ken ;):rolleyes::D

Benipete 19-07-2010 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 829810)
This will probably be an unpopular thing to say but Great Britain really really needs the BBC and the licence fee. If you think that TV is crap now, just pray that the day never comes when we turn into Little America and it truly is wall-to-wall adverts and no quality programming.

Programmes such as CSI and Lost which are well-made and proved to be a worldwide success are very much in a minority. People may think that they never watch BBC stuff but it has far wider-reaching implications on the output of other channels. At the moment they need to compete with quality TV whereas they would simply spew out populist tripe 24/7 if all they had to do was garner viewers.

I know this isn't the point of the thread but it's a little hobby-horse of mine. The BBC needs to trim the dead wood and fat salaries but it's starting to cut into areas it should be leaving alone instead, such as selling off its book and audio departments to third parties.

Bad move.

There you go,Once more we agree.

I really needed 24 repeats in one night.Still,You pay your money and take
your chance.

worth every groat.

If we are going to get rid of Quangos at least start at the top.

Oh sorry my lord.

DaveinGermany 20-07-2010 17:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 829948)
Alas I doubt if we'll ever see "One Night In Paris" on BBC3 Ken ;):rolleyes::D

Think that's what's known as specialist Adult viewing & you have to pay for that :eek: :D

jaysay 20-07-2010 18:10

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 830151)
Think that's what's known as specialist Adult viewing & you have to pay for that :eek: :D

Its just that Ms Hilton ain't really an adult;)

DaveinGermany 20-07-2010 18:27

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 830159)
Its just that Ms Hilton ain't really an adult;)

Only in the intelligence dept Jay, only in intelligence ! :D

Ken Moss 22-07-2010 08:44

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 829961)
There you go,Once more we agree.

I really needed 24 repeats in one night.Still,You pay your money and take
your chance.

worth every groat.

If we are going to get rid of Quangos at least start at the top.

Oh sorry my lord.

There are repeats on every channel every night but the BBC is funding eight television channels, nine radio channels plus its interactive output, so they can't all be broadcasting fresh material all the time.

We're obviously on different sides of the fence again but the day is likely to come when the licence fee is abolished and TV in Great Britain will change dramatically for the worse.

02hudsond 22-07-2010 16:20

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i hope they do cut the licence fee itsstupid i watch emmerdale and corrie and have to pay 5.30 to watch them ridiculas

lancsdave 22-07-2010 17:22

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Originally Posted by 02hudsond (Post 830703)
i hope they do cut the licence fee itsstupid i watch emmerdale and corrie and have to pay 5.30 to watch them ridiculas


I can't wait to see how you have worked that out :D

02hudsond 22-07-2010 17:49

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worked out what ???

jaysay 22-07-2010 17:52

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 830719)
I can't wait to see how you have worked that out :D

Puzzled me too dave:confused:

lancsdave 22-07-2010 18:33

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Originally Posted by 02hudsond (Post 830735)
worked out what ???


How you pay 5.30

DaveinGermany 22-07-2010 19:01

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 830754)
How you pay 5.30


I think it's

Minutes divide by Quids times by episodes (over a given period) = average % of Licence fee per Weekly viewing = 5.30 :confused:

Er, am I close ???? :D :D

MargaretR 22-07-2010 21:16

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I would expect them to pay me to watch that junk TV.

OK - that was a bit drastic - I would accept pay but keep my eyes closed and use the mute button ;)

jaysay 23-07-2010 09:30

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 830833)
I would expect them to pay me to watch that junk TV.

OK - that was a bit drastic - I would accept pay but keep my eyes closed and use the mute button ;)

You keep on with your knitting Margaret:D

Benipete 23-07-2010 10:33

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There is no doubt in my mind that the BBC is a big jobs for the boys outfit.They may do everything within the rules (where have I heard that before?) Oh yes,but never mind I digress.But they still look after each other at the tax payers expense.

They fund all the pro grammes with license payers money not their own,they have none.

Ken Moss 27-07-2010 06:34

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 830925)
There is no doubt in my mind that the BBC is a big jobs for the boys outfit.They may do everything within the rules (where have I heard that before?) Oh yes,but never mind I digress.But they still look after each other at the tax payers expense.

They fund all the pro grammes with license payers money not their own,they have none.

Actually, that's quite wide of the mark.

The BBC have plenty of money coming in from overseas sales of their programmes and it has been exactly the same for around 50 years but although many programmes earn far more than they cost to make (Doctor Who being a prime example), they still don't generate the return needed to be self-funding.

The 'jobs for the boys' days are long gone, whatever you might think. The 1980s saw a boom in that sort of thing under John Birt and that regime was finally ended by Greg Dyke, the best Director General there ever was.

The BBC of today is a comparatively slim machine in terms of fat cat salaries but what they need to get away from is multi-million pound deals for people like Jonathan Ross. There's plenty of talent out there that doesn't need to cost anywhere near that much.

jaysay 27-07-2010 09:50

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 831687)
Actually, that's quite wide of the mark.

The BBC have plenty of money coming in from overseas sales of their programmes and it has been exactly the same for around 50 years but although many programmes earn far more than they cost to make (Doctor Who being a prime example), they still don't generate the return needed to be self-funding.

The 'jobs for the boys' days are long gone, whatever you might think. The 1980s saw a boom in that sort of thing under John Birt and that regime was finally ended by Greg Dyke, the best Director General there ever was.

The BBC of today is a comparatively slim machine in terms of fat cat salaries but what they need to get away from is multi-million pound deals for people like Jonathan Ross. There's plenty of talent out there that doesn't need to cost anywhere near that much.

Ah are you thinking of taking up song and dance then Ken:D

Benipete 27-07-2010 10:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 831711)
Ah are you thinking of taking up song and dance then Ken:D

Ken and the Spin Doctors.:theband:

Ken Moss 28-07-2010 06:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 831711)
Ah are you thinking of taking up song and dance then Ken:D

I've been known to tread the boards on occasion....

I'm a member of Chorley Little Theatre Amateur Dramatics and Operatic Society, I'll have you know!

jaysay 28-07-2010 08:40

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 831958)
I've been known to tread the boards on occasion....

I'm a member of Chorley Little Theatre Amateur Dramatics and Operatic Society, I'll have you know!

Ah a singist, they'll have you giving a turn at the next Accy Web meet:D

jaysay 28-07-2010 08:42

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 831958)
I've been known to tread the boards on occasion....

I'm a member of Chorley Little Theatre Amateur Dramatics and Operatic Society, I'll have you know!

You'll have to watch your back Ken you'll have Gayle and Kate after signing you up or Ossy Players:cool:


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