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accyman 06-09-2010 03:06

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i managed to grab a quick pic before the emergency services turned up( i did ring them before taking the pic of course ) .My guess is the whole lot has gone up in smoke.Woulda grabbed more but the smoke was realy thick and there were flying red hot embers everywhere

its a good job tesco wernt allowed to build the petrol station they applied for when building the tesco express because it could have easily gone up with all the embers that were falling quite a distance away never mind the tescos area its self

hope everyone at the bottom of rhyddings street hasnt suffered any damage to their property or health.

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accyman 06-09-2010 03:17

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forgot to mention that union road is blocked off from the war memorial/rhyddings street to the tampets/harvey street so anyone planning on heading along there may want to plan a different route.As of 4.15am they are still trying to control the fire but theres no way of telling if they will reopen that part of union road in time for the morning rush

garinda 06-09-2010 07:26

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BBC News - Explosions heard during Oswaldtwistle mill fire

Firefighters were forced to pull out of a fire at a former mill in Lancashire following a series of explosions.

bondi38 06-09-2010 12:24

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Just been on radio BBC.CO/Lancashire to see better picture

Tealeaf 06-09-2010 12:24

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 843116)
its a good job tesco wernt allowed to build the petrol station they applied for when building the tesco express because it could have easily gone up with all the embers that were falling quite a distance away never mind the tescos area its self
-)

Maybe if Tesco had not been allowed to build their store in the first place and a fire station would still be there, then the fire would not have taken the hold that it did.

accyman 06-09-2010 13:17

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a vey good point tealeaf

Gayle 06-09-2010 13:50

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I agree that it's a shame that the Fire Station closed but I don't think you can blame Tesco for that - they bought a derelict site, the Fire Station was long gone by the time they moved in.

It says on the BBC site that it might be demolished now. That's possibly a good thing as it was a bit of an eyesore.

I hope everyone who lives around there is ok and no damage done to other properties.

cashman 06-09-2010 14:10

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true T, but think of the benefits..........destroyed part of ossy.:D;)

Alan Varrechia 06-09-2010 15:32

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A very good way to get rid of a listed building thats no longer wanted. Watch that space for some small private houses.

wadey 06-09-2010 15:37

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Am I on the right mill?

Couple of LCC photos

MargaretR 06-09-2010 16:29

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You have the right mill.
For an 'after' pic look here
BBC News - Explosions heard during Oswaldtwistle mill fire

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...48995782_1.jpg

jaysay 06-09-2010 17:41

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The guy who owns the place has been trying to get rid for ages and certainly had no intentions of pending brass on the building

SPUGGIE J 06-09-2010 17:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 843227)
The guy who owns the place has been trying to get rid for ages and certainly had no intentions of pending brass on the building


Insurance job?

jaysay 06-09-2010 18:01

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 843234)
Insurance job?

:idunno::idunno::idunno:your guess is as good as mine Spugs

wadey 06-09-2010 20:15

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Thanks MargaretR

o55y lad 07-09-2010 13:28

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i used to work in dat garage 2 yrs ago n da owner of the mill wanted to get it most of it knocked down ages ago but cuz the council ad sed dat it was a safe building they wudnt do anything with it apart from take a some bricks off the chimney n by the way when you was talkin bout it bein a insurance job think again because it wasnt cause it wasnt insured for fire damage due to it bein a listed building and the big chimney being there

yerself 07-09-2010 14:08

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Originally Posted by o55y lad
i used to work in dat garage 2 yrs ago n da owner of the mill wanted to get it most of it knocked down ages ago but cuz the council ad sed dat it was a safe building they wudnt do anything with it apart from take a some bricks off the chimney n by the way when you was talkin bout it bein a insurance job think again because it wasnt cause it wasnt insured for fire damage due to it bein a listed building and the big chimney being there

Could someone translate?

Tealeaf 07-09-2010 15:09

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I think he's saying The Great Fire of Ossy was not an insurance job.

MargaretR 07-09-2010 15:20

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Regardless of whether the owner will collect any buildings insurance, the land is now a 'brownfield' site and can be developed. The land has increased in value following this fire.

cashman 07-09-2010 15:21

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 843377)
I think he's saying The Great Fire of Ossy was not an insurance job.

Is dat right?:D

Tealeaf 07-09-2010 15:27

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 843379)
Regardless of whether the owner will collect any buildings insurance, the land is now a 'brownfield' site and can be developed. The land has increased in value following this fire.

I can't see land in Ossy being worth much - brownfield or greenfield. It should make a good gypo site, though.

MargaretR 07-09-2010 15:34

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The site of Three Brooks Mill has been used for housing.
Barratts tried to develop the Stanhill pickle factory site and failed(due to local residents opposition).

There is no reason to think that this site will not be attracting some interest from property developers.

jaysay 07-09-2010 17:50

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 843382)
I can't see land in Ossy being worth much - brownfield or greenfield. It should make a good gypo site, though.

Gypo sites are reserved for Church, Tealeaf, as you wel know:D

Tealeaf 07-09-2010 17:56

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 843406)
Gypo sites are reserved for Church, Tealeaf, as you wel know:D

The buggars obviously know a good place when they see it.

Anyway, we can't cope anymore so we've arranged an overspill site up Ryddings St.

Less 07-09-2010 18:55

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Originally Posted by o55y lad (Post 843360)
i used to work in dat garage 2 yrs ago n da owner of the mill wanted to get it most of it knocked down ages ago but cuz the council ad sed dat it was a safe building they wudnt do anything with it apart from take a some bricks off the chimney n by the way when you was talkin bout it bein a insurance job think again because it wasnt cause it wasnt insured for fire damage due to it bein a listed building and the big chimney being there

If this one got GCSE English then I take it all back, they are making the exams easier these days, (or maybe he/she left the garage and is now a Teacher?).
:eek:

MargaretR 08-09-2010 09:36

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Demolition started
Demolition of arson-hit Oswaldtwistle mill starts (From Lancashire Telegraph)

wadey 09-09-2010 21:01

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I've nipped up this afto and got some photos before it disappears, in the Gallery under "Buildings"

jaysay 10-09-2010 09:14

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 843492)

Listed building or not that chimney should have come down years ago

garinda 10-09-2010 11:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 843827)
Listed building or not that chimney should have come down years ago

It nearly did.

Every time the winter storms hit.

jaysay 10-09-2010 18:43

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 843852)
It nearly did.

Every time the winter storms hit.

Exactly G, you have to remember I used to use the watering hole right in its drop path of that chimney:eek:

garinda 10-09-2010 18:59

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 843918)
Exactly G, you have to remember I used to use the watering hole right in its drop path of that chimney:eek:

Yes, God's obviously a socialist.

There was definiitely a leaning towards the left, threatening the Con club.

:rolleyes:

cashman 10-09-2010 19:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 843918)
Exactly G, you have to remember I used to use the watering hole right in its drop path of that chimney:eek:

so thats why ya invited me yon one night.!:D

jaysay 10-09-2010 19:13

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 843923)
so thats why ya invited me yon one night.!:D

There not all daft as slaver;)

jelly baby 11-09-2010 10:53

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Has the fire affected the 4x4 place in the yard?

Bee 21-06-2011 15:04

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 843184)
Maybe if Tesco had not been allowed to build their store in the first place and a fire station would still be there, then the fire would not have taken the hold that it did.

Dont be silly T,

The fire station closed in 2003:tongueout:p:tongueout.

Retlaw 21-06-2011 15:44

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 843184)
Maybe if Tesco had not been allowed to build their store in the first place and a fire station would still be there, then the fire would not have taken the hold that it did.

It shows you don't know much about the Fire Brigade, & turnout times, many times when I served at the old fire station in Manchester Rd Acc, we could be passing Oswaldtwistles fire station, as they were just turning out, when the decline in manufaturing started, and mills were closing, the justification for a fire station at Ossy also declined.

Retlaw

Tealeaf 21-06-2011 15:55

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I suppose there was no justification for a fire station in Ossy in the first place; surely it would have been far better for all of us to let the entire town just burn down.

Benipete 21-06-2011 17:12

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 913379)
I suppose there was no justification for a fire station in Ossy in the first place; surely it would have been far better for all of us to let the entire town just burn down.

Good point,But the fire station closed a long time before the Tesco shop was built.I think It was shortly after the invention of the Thermostatically controlled deep fat fryer but I may be wrong (again).:D:D

jaysay 21-06-2011 17:15

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 913379)
I suppose there was no justification for a fire station in Ossy in the first place; surely it would have been far better for all of us to let the entire town just burn down.

Thats why they never built on in Church Tealeaf:D

Tealeaf 21-06-2011 17:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 913395)
Thats why they never built on in Church Tealeaf:D

Err....wrong, as usual, Jaysay.

The fire station in Church was located almost next door to the Thorn Pub. The building was demolished in the early '70's. Houses are now on the site - somewhat more useful than a supermarket chicken shed, as in Ossy.

jaysay 21-06-2011 17:31

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 913401)
Err....wrong, as usual, Jaysay.

The fire station in Church was located almost next door to the Thorn Pub. The building was demolished in the early '70's. Houses are now on the site - somewhat more useful than a supermarket chicken shed, as in Ossy.

It might have been demolished in the 70s but it must have been a hell of a lot longer since they had any sort of engine housed there, must have been in the days of horse drawn tenders Tealeaf :D

Tealeaf 21-06-2011 17:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 913404)
It might have been demolished in the 70s but it must have been a hell of a lot longer since they had any sort of engine housed there, must have been in the days of horse drawn tenders Tealeaf :D

Yeah...I think it was. But it's the principle that counts.

I have a vague recollection that there was a date on the building, about 1906 - which suggests it was put up just after the Steiner's and Foxhill Bank fires a few year's earlier.

jaysay 21-06-2011 17:44

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 913408)
Yeah...I think it was. But it's the principle that counts.

I have a vague recollection that there was a date on the building, about 1906 - which suggests it was put up just after the Steiner's and Foxhill Bank fires a few year's earlier.

Steiners had their own firemen, I know because my Grandfather was the fire chief there for years

MCR ADIM 21-06-2011 17:47

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 913379)
I suppose there was no justification for a fire station in Ossy in the first place; surely it would have been far better for all of us to let the entire town just burn down.

should be the other way round and have the fire station is ossy so that accrington could just burn down,

Benipete 21-06-2011 17:58

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Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 913413)
should be the other way round and have the fire station is ossy so that accrington could just burn down,

Get back In't watter.:tongueout:D:D

Tealeaf 21-06-2011 18:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 913411)
Steiners had their own firemen, I know because my Grandfather was the fire chief there for years

That didn't do them much good then, did it?

Most of the big companies around Accy had their own fire service. I remember working at Ewbank in the mid-seventies and their in-house fire brigade was comprised of a Land Rover crewed by some of the maintainence men. That - like all the other companies - was their first line of defence. if things got out of hand, then call the Borough/County Brigade. Actually, if you were really sensible, you'd call them first.

Retlaw 21-06-2011 18:35

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 913379)
I suppose there was no justification for a fire station in Ossy in the first place; surely it would have been far better for all of us to let the entire town just burn down.

Right there was no justification for Ossy to have a fire station many years before it was eventually closed, just as Rishton & Clayton's fire stations were closed in the late 1940's.
All the major employers at one time had a fire brigade, Lang Bridges & Howard & Bulloughs etc.
Retlaw.

jaysay 21-06-2011 19:01

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 913419)
That didn't do them much good then, did it?

Most of the big companies around Accy had their own fire service. I remember working at Ewbank in the mid-seventies and their in-house fire brigade was comprised of a Land Rover crewed by some of the maintainence men. That - like all the other companies - was their first line of defence. if things got out of hand, then call the Borough/County Brigade. Actually, if you were really sensible, you'd call them first.

I don't know Retlaw, I've seen some photos of him and they seemed to have some decent equipment for the time, I know my other Grandfather was a member of Oswaldtwistle Fire Service when the fire station was in the town hall and the stables for the horses where down the Straits, there's actually a photo of him in the civic society exhibition on the corner of Monarch Street (if its still open) and some of the men are named, I actually did this photo for them enlarged it and inserted the names about 10 years ago

Retlaw 21-06-2011 20:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 913432)
I don't know Retlaw, I've seen some photos of him and they seemed to have some decent equipment for the time, I know my other Grandfather was a member of Oswaldtwistle Fire Service when the fire station was in the town hall and the stables for the horses where down the Straits, there's actually a photo of him in the civic society exhibition on the corner of Monarch Street (if its still open) and some of the men are named, I actually did this photo for them enlarged it and inserted the names about 10 years ago

This is from the Fire Brigade log book Jan 24th midnight 1901.
Wheatfield Mill Rishton. Fire in winding & warping room. got one jet to work from steamer and stopped the futher advance, played 3 jets from steamer.
Steamers from Harwood & Clayton were also sent for, but Accrington was the first to arrive, & were directing water on the fire long before the others arrived. Returned to station at 6-50.a.m.

You can just imagine the horses nostrils flaring, going like the clappers up Whalley Rd, firemen hanging on for grim death, trying to get there gear on, & the engine driver at the back shoveling coal on to have steam up, trying to keep out of the tram lines, then skidding round the corner at Clayton, then belting down the road towards Rishton.
Them wurt days
Retlaw.


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