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Picture the scene your 11,12 or 13 year old child is playing out with his or her friends it is growing dark,suddenly they are approached by a group of strangers.Is it a mugging? An attempted kidnapping? Neither.' Hey you guys who wants to be tested for STD's'? Volunteers found off they troupe to have a sample tested.
Now I am a self confessed dinosaur in my PC outlook(remember they did survive for millions of years).But can anyone explain why these professionals are going around testing and supplying underage kids with condoms, contraceptive pills and morning after pills,without parents or guardians being aware?Did you know abortions can be organised without parents or guardian's knowledge?
Is it a residue of Blair's nanny state or is it going to be an ongoing thing.
Of course the PC supporters willl say'STD's are rising and teenage pregnancies are soaring we need to act.'
Well I say, yes someone needs to act I think it may be the parents need
A)Informing of little Wayne and Waynette's problems.
B)The forces of law should have a campaign of prosecution for these underage Lolitas and Don Juans and if found negligent their parents should also be collared.
But of course I am being over simplistic,I don't realise the issues.
After all we can't keep handing out flats to homeless teenage mothers can we?
Well one thing I do realise all this is going on in Accrington and hundreds of other areas throughout our once decent society.
What do we do?
Answers on a post card please!

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Alas, they don't make a postcard big enough.

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Is this the intro to a book you are writing?:confused::confused:

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Reece came home from school with a condom a few months ago, he was only 13 at the time, i was gobsmacked when he told me where he'd got it from, i'm all for early learning and that but i reckon thats more encouragement giving them out at that age

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I bet those warning signs are lonely in there :p:D:D

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Yes ,Benipete I am doing signings at Wh Smiths,it's called the ' Death of Society and the Rise of the Scroats'

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Don't know about a book Beni, he could probably write a trilogy on that subject

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As could we all but it is still not clear if we are to imagine an event or if indeed it took place.:confused:

If it did then there are a lot of gaps to be filled.

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Tried to picture it, obviously not blessed with your imagination, I just cannot imagine officials of any kind roaming the streets trying to get young children to go with complete strangers to have their genitals tested. That sort of thing would I suspect only be performed in an unofficial capacity by the dirty mac brigade.
:rolleyes:

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I always think the pre-pill generations must have shown great restraint.

Not one of them having got 'caught', whilst unwed.

:rolleyes:

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Well for the doubting Thomas's, the event was real,it did take place and the people involved were 'Health officials'taking urine samples from the kids who volunteered.

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No, but that's because they got married at 16.

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To prove this you are of course going to put a link in to a site that can confirm such goings on?
:)

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I am sure that we all realise that current youngsters didn't(as they seem to think) invent sex.

I know that my Grandparents indulged in premarital sex........they were married whislt my Grandma was in an 'interesting' condition......and their first son was born six months after they were married.

I am pretty sure that the youth of that era were not as promiscuous though.
maybe that was because there were less facilities to obtain contraception, and that having a baby outside of marriage was something which had a definite social stigma attached to it.
Today children seem to be educated to think that a sex life is their 'right'....and while I do not personally want to get into the ethics or morals of this view.....I think that any 'right' has to be balanced by responsibilities.

We are fostering hedonistic values in our youngsters......an 'anything you want, you can have it' mentality. We do not teach restraint. These attitudes to morals and ethics spill over into other parts of our childrens lives. Children also learn by example and there may be elements of society today, who children are influenced by more than their parents. Monkey see, monkey do.

Now I'll duck and watch out for the flying bricks.

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I was almost 19, and was still a virgin on my wedding day, despite a two year long engagement.

'Heavy petting' was acceptable and did relieve the tension somewhat.

Society's attitudes have changed a lot since those days.
Virginity is no longer a virtue, and, thinking about it, perhaps it never should have been considered so.

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...and of course, before 1961, no bride ever walked up the aisle with a dress that was growing tighter by the minute.

:rolleyes:

:D

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Perhaps the problem these days isn't the fact that young people get pregnant (that's always been the same), perhaps its because liberal parents refuse to take the shotgun approach to marching people up the aisle.

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I think attitudes have changed in the last thirty years.

When Lady Diana Spencer became engaged to Prince Charles, her uncle publicly proclaimed her virginity. (Though goodness knows how he knew!)

Thirty years later, the woman likely to be Queen of England, Kate Middleton, has been living as (unwed) man and wife with Prince William for years, and reportedly didn't enter his bed pure as the driven snow.

Humans are no different from any other rutting animals.

I'm just happy I'm waiting for someone worthy enough.

:D

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Generally people that were 'caught', did get marched up the aisle. As long as one wasn't already married. Otherwise the girl would be sent off to some Dickensian home for unmarried mothers.

I wonder how many people who were forced to marry, spent miserably unhappy lives, tied to people they had nothing in common with, other than having shared a youthful tryst, that resulted in a pregnancy?

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By the way, I do think chastity is important.

I'd much rather young people be taught that their bodies are precious, and mindless sex shouldn't be entered into lightly.

Teach respect, not rubbers.

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The 'I want, I want, I want it now' generation.

I blame Thatcher.

:D

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Less here to be going on with,hope it doesn't spoil your tea.
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http://www.brook.org.uk/

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I think that is an important point Gary.
So many young people want to be seen as 'grown up'....and I have no issues with this. If a young person enters into sexual relationships with the full knowledge of the risks they are taking, and does something positive to minimise those risks....then that is evidence that they are grown up.
It seems to me that virginity in both young men and young women is seen as a burden...something to be got rid of. How sad this concept is, that they feel they are not worthy to wait for that someone special.
Meaningless sexual activity is no more than a bit of exercise...a run on a treadmill. How very sad that is.

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The concept of being a virtuous virgin at the altar was a disaster for me.
I spent a two year engagement supressing my physical instincts only to be seriously disappointed when they were (not) 'fulfilled'.

The engagement period was so intensely concentrated on controlling the physical, that the other aspects -ie. whether we were compatible in that and other ways, did not surface for consideration.

As it turned out we were incompatable in both, and eventually mutually agreed on divorce.

If I had defied convention and released that 'supression of urges', I would have realised that we were not suited to spend a lifetime together.

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NHS outreach workers are out in accrington most nights talking to young people doing tests etc Chlamydia Screening - The National Chlamydia Screening Programme is well underway
with b-sure being the brand name of our local screening programme.
If this target is to be achieved an increase in screening volumes must peak in community
services such as Contraceptive and Sexual Health Services, General Practice and
Pharmacies. A Local Enhanced Service has been developed with funding incentives for
GPs and Pharmacists in an effort to increase screening volumes. Screening will be
targeted through schools and colleges, pubs and clubs, sports clubs and other areas
where young people congregate, building on the lessons learnt

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So it's not excaclty being walked up to in the street by complete strangers and ferried off for a test then ?

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Oh yes it is!
Sorry couldn't resist.
Well I think I have gleaned a cross section of opinion divided between the doubters to the concerned members.
So really if we deny that it's happening,do we really care?
I suppose at the end of the day,the next few years will tell the tale if STD's/STI's are contained and teenage pregnancies plunge.
We should all be concerned though as at the end of the day we foot the bill.

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I still can't figure out what this thread is getting at ?

Are you saying it's wrong for them to be given testing opportunites and educated on the issues ?

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I am questioning the fact that this is being done with young kids well below the age of legal consent.This is without the knowledge of parents who contary to belief might just be concerned enough at what could be termed social engineering.
The fact that these services are being carried out can promote the young to believe that unless you are 'active' you haven't got the street cred.
Iv'e heared young lads boasting(about condoms)'I've got ten...'
A long time ago when I was their age we did this with football cards!
As I said if you are comfortable with this then I guess we can agree to differ.

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Originally Posted by Lampman http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
Picture the scene your 11,12 or 13 year old child is playing out with his or her friends it is growing dark,suddenly they are approached by a group of strangers.Is it a mugging? An attempted kidnapping? Neither.' Hey you guys who wants to be tested for STD's'?

Tried to picture it, obviously not blessed with your imagination, I just cannot imagine officials of any kind roaming the streets trying to get young children to go with complete strangers to have their genitals tested. That sort of thing would I suspect only be performed in an unofficial capacity by the dirty mac brigade.[/quote]
:rolleyes: Sorry but so far you haven't proved a thing, of course as responsible adults we should all care for our young and guard them from harm, but, you are talking, (Less puts on polite mode here), twaddle!

But then? What is new about that?
:rolleyes:

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Thanks for that Less!
I wasn't aware this was a forum for proving things to your good self. My mistake.

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Again you are wrong, if you post something in general please make sure it is factual, otherwise anything goes is the section you should aim for.

You put a load of tat on for a first post, the reactions you get could have been better, but your words don't deserve that.
;)

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Er first post Less sorry do you mean thread starter?
Every word I have said is true but what the heck.
Everyone else seems to be able to handle the thread in a grown up manner but again thanks for the insults.
I haven't been on the forum for a while now I remember why.
Finally is that really you in the Photo? Suits you sir.

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Todays teenagers weren'tborn in her day Mancie, oh sorry Garinda:D

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Yes I mean thread starter, it was the first post wasn't it?

It may be true but whatever did you do to show that?

Then you ran off in tangents, no proof just your ramblings, not a good start really is it?

As for insults, I have insulted nothing but the lack of facts, I believe you to be an idiot,(no insult intended), but a sincere idiot, (take the insult as it's meant), but, please try harder to put forward a factual thread.
:D

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I'm comfortable with kids being educated in the pitfalls of the modern world. What I would like to know is where this event of being approached in the street and given a STD test actually took place.

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No, but the generational seed of greed was planted then, and is now bearing fruit.

;)

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Who's taking the pee?

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Yes, indeed facts rather than fancy.

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Thatcher's to blame, as posted earlier.

First it was the kiddies' milk.

Now it's their body fluids, that are being snatched.

Greed begat greed.

It wouldn't have happened in the good old days.

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That is what I was trying to say but not much relevant information was forthcoming.:confused:

All this imagining could set my therapy back years.:hehetable

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Sorry for the delay in answering.
Brook Blackburn - Brook Centres
Give them a ring and ask if what I stated earlier is true or a flight of fantasy.
Also one of the areas the kids are contacted is the Skate Park.