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Less 01-10-2010 14:52

Freedom Of The Borough
 
I admit to a bias here, perhaps it should be someone else suggesting it?
But the obbo' & Hyndburn Council want suggestions for deserving cases to be nominated for 'Freedom of the Borough', wouldn't Our administrator Roy be a name that could be put forward?
After all, what would the area be like in these modern times without our site.

(Less now wanders off expecting flak for having Fatherly pride).

Margaret Pilkington 01-10-2010 14:57

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
I agree with you Less.......and why would you receive flak for having well justified fatherly pride?

heth 01-10-2010 15:15

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
I agree Less and never mind flak you will get a pat on the back :thumbsup:

cashman 01-10-2010 15:53

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
good idea well worth it, doubt if our beloved leader will though he hates accyweb.;)

SPUGGIE J 01-10-2010 15:59

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 848903)
good idea well worth it, doubt if our beloved leader will though he hates accyweb.;)

Its the publics voice that counts. P.B dosnt control this site so to stop Roy getting a chance at it (which he should) is a slap in the face not just to us on here but the Accy public in general. I wonder if he hopes to get the honour?

Less 01-10-2010 16:25

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 848905)
Its the publics voice that counts. P.B dosnt control this site so to stop Roy getting a chance at it (which he should) is a slap in the face not just to us on here but the Accy public in general. I wonder if he hopes to get the honour?

If he's owt like a Son of mine, he will hate being put forward, so lets go for it.
:)

Barrie Yates 01-10-2010 16:38

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Total agreement, this site is very much an essential & integral part of the town and certainly one area that is thriving.

jaysay 01-10-2010 17:40

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848910)
If he's owt like a Son of mine, he will hate being put forward, so lets go for it.
:)

Totally Agree, Less, so let ll members of Accy Web write to the council nominating Roy:mosher:

Less 01-10-2010 17:45

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 848923)
Totally Agree, Less, so let ll members of Accy Web write to the council nominating Roy:mosher:

Hey Jay' you should know by now, I only make suggestions, I NEVER take responsibility. So thanks for that.:D

DaveinGermany 01-10-2010 17:45

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Well, as good as any & better than most, he can have my support, is there an online thingy to sign up to ?

jaysay 01-10-2010 17:58

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 848927)
Hey Jay' you should know by now, I only make suggestions, I NEVER take responsibility. So thanks for that.:D

Anything to oblige Less:D

shillelagh 01-10-2010 18:13

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
The accy observer has teamed up with hyndburn council to ask our readers for nominations for the new round of honorary freemen awards. Nominations will be made via the area councils- as with last years hugely sucessful st georges day unsung hero awards. The awards will culminate with a special council meeting to confer the freedom sometime by the end of the year.

to receive a nomination form please call the area management team on 01254 380121 or you can email [email protected] with your address.

i hope people from outside hyndburn can nominate ...

JCB 02-10-2010 10:06

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
I'm being serious here . There is a man called Jimmie who does the street cleaning in our area .
He's out in all kinds of weather .
He doesn't get a proper tea-break , a sit down and feet up in the warmth for ten minutes .
Two days in the week he has his dinner wherever he is cleaning , because it's too far from the depot .
I've never known him to miss work .
He has a smile and a few words for any who pass by .

It's to such as him to whom I would give the Freedom of the Borough .

Ken Moss 02-10-2010 11:21

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
For the record, I approve of the Freedom of the Borough awards and actually think they are a good idea to promote community values. My last post made it sound as if I don't.

Gayle 02-10-2010 11:45

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 849082)
For the record, I approve of the Freedom of the Borough awards and actually think they are a good idea to promote community values. My last post made it sound as if I don't.

So, in that case why did you use this thread as yet another opportunity to have a go at Britcliffe instead of putting something constructive in it?

Who do you think should be nominated?

MargaretR 02-10-2010 11:58

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
The title has medieval origins, and at one time it involved having special priviledges such as avoiding trade tariffs and having special voting rights.

Today it holds no such priviledges and is nothing more than recognition of services rendered to a community.

As such the worthiness of it will always be subject to the community's experience to the service rendered.

Most of us value the service this site renders and use it.
Others try it and leave, so do not see any value in it.

katex 02-10-2010 12:11

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
I've always thought Retlaw should have some recognition for his service in years of work of the record of the Accrington Pals and work in the Library on the Census Reports, giving the people of Accrington information of their ancesters and a reminder of the lads who sacrificed their lives for us.

Course, realise he will not thank me for this suggestion ... :D

MargaretR 02-10-2010 12:16

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 849099)
I've always thought Retlaw should have some recognition for his service in years of work of the record of the Accrington Pals and work in the Library on the Census Reports, giving the people of Accrington information of their ancesters and a reminder of the lads who sacrificed their lives for us.

Course, realise he will not thank me for this suggestion ... :D

I like that idea :)

Ken Moss 02-10-2010 12:56

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 849091)
So, in that case why did you use this thread as yet another opportunity to have a go at Britcliffe instead of putting something constructive in it?

Who do you think should be nominated?

A gentleman called Colin Cooper leaps to mind as he has given years of service to improving Rishton and still does so now he is into his 80s.

Rishton is full of people who are community-minded and to be honest the shortlist would run to about 50 people. Each other ward would also have a similar list of their own residents, all of whom would be equally deserving so it shouldn't be an easy decision for anyone at Hyndburn Borough Council to make.

As far as the Britcliffe-bashing is concerned, I wandered slightly off-topic because he is asking the public for their opinion on something worthy but ultimately way down the list of priorities when other more important issues are forcibly sidelined.

Cancelling a scheduled council meeting that would have solved some borough-wide problems to the benefit of every community is not something I can condone.

garinda 02-10-2010 16:22

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Will the winner get to graze his sheep up the Coppice, and tether a horse to the door of the Town Hall.

Has Roy got a horse?

Will the same ancient rites be afforded if he tethers Less?

garinda 02-10-2010 16:25

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 849101)
I like that idea :)

I like the idea too.

He works tirelessly, and has for years, to keep the sacrifices made by the Accy Pals fresh in our minds.

SPUGGIE J 02-10-2010 19:49

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Lets give Less the freedom of Accyweb so that he stays as he is. Any other people for this?

Retlaw 02-10-2010 19:52

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 849099)
I've always thought Retlaw should have some recognition for his service in years of work of the record of the Accrington Pals and work in the Library on the Census Reports, giving the people of Accrington information of their ancesters and a reminder of the lads who sacrificed their lives for us.

Course, realise he will not thank me for this suggestion ... :D

Your suggestion would be impossible to impliment.
(1) You have to be smartly dressed and smell sweet, I'd rather
smell of deisel oil and sweat, an look like Compo.
(2) You have to kiss britcliffes arse, UUUUUUUuuugh.
(3) I do this because I want to, and don't go round proffesing to be
and expert on the subject.
(4) Katex all though you are entitled to your opinion, keep thi
opinions to thisen.

Retlaw.

Less 02-10-2010 19:54

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 849369)
Lets give Less the freedom of Accyweb so that he stays as he is. Any other people for this?

I think I'll report this post, I haven't found a reason to yet, but I'm working on it.
:o

Less 02-10-2010 19:57

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 849372)
Your suggestion would be impossible to impliment.
(1) You have to be smartly dressed and smell sweet, I'd rather
smell of deisel oil and sweat, an look like Compo.
(2) You have to kiss britcliffes arse, UUUUUUUuuugh.
(3) I do this because I want to, and don't go round proffesing to be
and expert on the subject.
(4) Katex all though you are entitled to your opinion, keep thi
opinions to thisen.

Retlaw.

Somehow, when I see him on Monday Roy will put similar views forward, why, oh why is there no such thing as irony any-more?
:)

Atarah 02-10-2010 22:25

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Jim Harkness of North Lancs Training Group.

This "apprenticeship school" has been operating for over 40 years now. I am delighted to learn its a local man who started all this off. Credit where its due. I intend to try and find out more about this gentleman then put his name forward.

cashman 02-10-2010 22:29

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
How about Cashman? dont know anyone more fair or even handed, have insulted everyone in hyndburn. no favourites whatsoever.:D

garinda 02-10-2010 23:41

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Biggy Shoe lady.

Wynonie Harris 02-10-2010 23:53

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Isaac.

jaysay 03-10-2010 09:08

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 849372)
Your suggestion would be impossible to impliment.
(1) You have to be smartly dressed and smell sweet, I'd rather
smell of deisel oil and sweat, an look like Compo.
(2) You have to kiss britcliffes arse, UUUUUUUuuugh.
(3) I do this because I want to, and don't go round proffesing to be
and expert on the subject.
(4) Katex all though you are entitled to your opinion, keep thi
opinions to thisen.

Retlaw.

The only trouble there Walter is I agree with her:)

jaysay 03-10-2010 09:11

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 849405)
How about Cashman? dont know anyone more fair or even handed, have insulted everyone in hyndburn. no favourites whatsoever.:D

Would have t make a choice between Freedom of the Borough or Freedom of Rogues Gallery:D

mallard 03-10-2010 09:16

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Yes your right there less

Tealeaf 03-10-2010 09:38

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
I think we should resurrect the Arndale Clock and give that the Freedom of the Borough.

SPUGGIE J 03-10-2010 09:48

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 849491)
I think we should resurrect the Arndale Clock and give that the Freedom of the Borough.

Now who would argue with that?

ClarePritchard 04-10-2010 11:59

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
I'm going to nominate Ken Hargreaves, a truly nice man who has made a huge contribution to the borough both as MP and his HUGE amount of Charity work.

yerself 04-10-2010 17:06

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarePritchard
I'm going to nominate Ken Hargreaves, a truly nice man who has made a huge contribution to the borough both as MP and his HUGE amount of Charity work.

What a change from the usual cross party sniping and bickering. I wonder if we'll get jaysay nominating our current MP? ;);)

jaysay 04-10-2010 17:39

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 849768)
What a change from the usual cross party sniping and bickering. I wonder if we'll get jaysay nominating our current MP? ;);)

When he's done half as much as Ken I will gladly nominate him yourself, considering Ken is 70+ Graham has a long way to go;)

anzac 04-10-2010 17:58

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Can anyone tell me who the previous individuals are who have been granted the Freedom of the Borough please or post a link where I can find out

Bob Dobson 04-10-2010 19:04

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
In recent years, the late Bill Turner for his work re The Pals & local history.

Ken Hargreaves is an excellent suggestion. He might have touched 70 but I don't think he is over that.

jaysay 04-10-2010 19:06

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 849815)
In recent years, the late Bill Turner for his work re The Pals & local history.

Ken Hargreaves is an excellent suggestion. He might have touched 70 but I don't think he is over that.

Was 71 in March Bob

Atarah 04-10-2010 19:25

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
This may help

http://menmedia.co.uk/accringtonobse...super_citizens

but, I still dont understand what you gain by becoming "A freeman of the borough".

JCB 04-10-2010 19:43

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 849826)
This may help

Search begins to find next super citizens - Accrington Observer

but, I still dont understand what you gain by becoming "A freeman of the borough".

These days it is an honorary title officially recognising someone as a person of honour who has served the borough in an exceptionally good way .

I think that's gain enough .

cashman 04-10-2010 19:49

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 849830)
These days it is an honorary title officially recognising someone as a person of honour who has served the borough in an exceptionally good way .

I think that's gain enough .

would agree 100% wi that.

gynn 05-10-2010 07:56

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
I remember when the then Queen's Lancashire Regiment (now the Duke of Lancaster's Regiment) got the Freedom of the Borough, they marched in the town with fixed bayonets. It was a very moving and impressive sight, and it always comes back to me when I hear that one of their number has been killed in Afghanistan......

garinda 05-10-2010 08:02

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 849815)
He might have touched 70 but I don't think he is over that.

You live and learn.

I always thought he was like his lose chum Anne Widdicome.

Returned to life's sorting office, untouched.

:p

Ken Moss 05-10-2010 08:05

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 849768)
What a change from the usual cross party sniping and bickering. I wonder if we'll get jaysay nominating our current MP? ;);)

Ken Hargreaves is regarded by almost everyone, regardless of the banner they happen to be waving, to have been an excellent MP.

Believe it or not, there is quite a lot of cross-party respect flying about up at Scaitcliffe House these days.

jaysay 05-10-2010 09:11

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 849915)
Ken Hargreaves is regarded by almost everyone, regardless of the banner they happen to be waving, to have been an excellent MP.

Believe it or not, there is quite a lot of cross-party respect flying about up at Scaitcliffe House these days.

:eek::eek::eek::eek:Ya mean you actually said Good Morning Peter:D

Ken Moss 05-10-2010 09:16

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 849946)
:eek::eek::eek::eek:Ya mean you actually said Good Morning Peter:D

No, I'm not sure that has ever come up. I did go over and make my introduction on polling day and was met with 'OK' in response.

So far, that remains the extent of his only one-to-one conversation with me.

Less 05-10-2010 09:18

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 849946)
:eek::eek::eek::eek:Ya mean you actually said Good Morning Peter:D

No he probably pointed out there was a knife handle protruding from Peters back, placed there by one of his (Peters), loyal supporters.:D

jaysay 05-10-2010 09:31

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 849949)
No he probably pointed out there was a knife handle protruding from Peters back, placed there by one of his (Peters), loyal supporters.:D

That's pure innuendo Less, which is not like you:D:D

jaysay 05-10-2010 09:33

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 849948)
. I did go over and make my introduction on polling day and was met with 'OK' in response.

.

See he's really a very genial person Ken:D

garinda 05-10-2010 10:43

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 849914)
You live and learn.

I always thought he was like his lose chum Anne Widdicome.

Returned to life's sorting office, untouched.

:p


Please read close, instead of lose, or loose.

My mistake.

:D

jaysay 05-10-2010 11:00

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 849965)
Please read close, instead of lose, or loose.

My mistake.

:D

My mate had a daughter called that:D

Gayle 05-10-2010 13:17

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
I'd agree with Ken Hargreaves.

He's a lovely man. I've just interviewed him to write an article for the Parish Magazine and he's led such an amazing life and done a lot of great work. Plus, he has never moved more than a mile away from his roots (apart from his stint as MP) and he's passionate about the local community.

Yep, give Ken the Freedom of the Borough.

jaysay 05-10-2010 18:02

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 849994)
I'd agree with Ken Hargreaves.

He's a lovely man. I've just interviewed him to write an article for the Parish Magazine and he's led such an amazing life and done a lot of great work. Plus, he has never moved more than a mile away from his roots (apart from his stint as MP) and he's passionate about the local community.

Yep, give Ken the Freedom of the Borough.

Ken was the best example of a local MP you could ever come across, I could tell you some of the things he undertook which weren't exactly in an MPs remit, one in particular was when he went all the way to Rishton to see a pensioner, who needed his help, when he got there the old dear just wanted a light bulb changing:D

Tealeaf 05-10-2010 22:30

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 850067)
Ken was the best example of a local MP you could ever come across, I could tell you some of the things he undertook which weren't exactly in an MPs remit, one in particular was when he went all the way to Rishton to see a pensioner, who needed his help, when he got there the old dear just wanted a light bulb changing:D

Was that Ken Moss?

jaysay 06-10-2010 09:11

Re: Freedom Of The Borough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 850158)
Was that Ken Moss?

Na don't think so Tealeaf, it was a woman, but.........:D


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