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garinda 08-11-2010 10:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 859721)
That maybe so but not giving a toss is just as bad, if that's the case lets shut all the youth centres and other youth projects and turn the clock back to the 1930s and not give young people any support other than school, like the good old days;)


Also, if a youth group qualifies for some funding, and they decide to use some of that money on materials for crafts and hobbies, that is their decision.

This in not the same as spending thousands of pounds of council tax payers' money, paying so called profesional artists, to crochet freakin' wooly caterpillars, and exhibit them under the umberalla name of 'community art'

jaysay 08-11-2010 10:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 859724)
There's never been as much support.

Nor have young people ever had as much materially.

If there's still anti-social behaviour, something's wrong.

Probably due chanelling tax payers' money into brain dead, community art schemes.

The reason for anti-social behaviour, is lack of discipline. no doubt you as well as myself adhered to rules when we were growing up, I respected my parents, teachers and other figures in society, which I'm sure you did too G. There is a lot made in this day and age of young people being respected, the only difference when we were young is you received that respect when you'd earned it, not as a right

garinda 08-11-2010 11:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 859726)
The reason for anti-social behaviour, is lack of discipline. no doubt you as well as myself adhered to rules when we were growing up, I respected my parents, teachers and other figures in society, which I'm sure you did too G. There is a lot made in this day and age of young people being respected, the only difference when we were young is you received that respect when you'd earned it, not as a right

Very true, and no matter how much money you throw at it, in the guise of two grand spent gaffiting a park wall, it can't be bought either.

Respect is earned, like the taxes that fund such lunacy.

Barrie Yates 08-11-2010 17:05

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 859732)
Very true, and no matter how much money you throw at it, in the guise of two grand spent gaffiting a park wall, it can't be bought either.

Respect is earned, like the taxes that fund such lunacy.

Totally agree with you and Jay.;)

jaysay 08-11-2010 17:50

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 859803)
Totally agree with you and Jay.;)

Hum a threesome:D

Barrie Yates 08-11-2010 21:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 859819)
Hum a threesome:D

Don't get carried away:p

garinda 08-11-2010 23:01

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Now, this is a pretty little picture.

she speaks like silence by ~guitarsallly on deviantART

jaysay 09-11-2010 09:00

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 859919)
Don't get carried away:p

Never do Barrie:rolleyes:

jaysay 09-11-2010 09:02

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 859927)
Now, this is a pretty little picture.

she speaks like silence by ~guitarsallly on deviantART

We some of the comments were interesting :rolleyes:

yerself 09-11-2010 09:40

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Originally Posted by garinda
Now, this is a pretty little picture.

Is it by the woman in the Market Hall? It's pretty good for crochet work. I wonder what Brian's view would be about publicly funded crocheting and waterless swimming?

garinda 09-11-2010 14:56

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 859978)
Is it by the woman in the Market Hall? It's pretty good for crochet work. I wonder what Brian's view would be about publicly funded crocheting and waterless swimming?

He'll just have to wait and see, like the rest of us, who aren't allowed to know the cost, before the first stroke has been swam, and then decide, if it's of any value to us all, both artistically and finacially.

:rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 09-11-2010 15:10

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Has Gayle has decided never to darken this website again, as she said she might? I can't say I blame her if she has, she's taken some stick on here.
However, she never did tell us what Hyndburns contribution to the 'Cultural Olympics' London 2012 would be and what it was going to cost.Does anyone know?

Less 09-11-2010 15:41

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 860051)
Has Gayle has decided never to darken this website again, as she said she might? I can't say I blame her if she has, she's taken some stick on here.
However, she never did tell us what Hyndburns contribution to the 'Cultural Olympics' London 2012 would be and what it was going to cost.Does anyone know?

If Gayle isn't to darken the site again, don't worry about the stick she has taken, she put herself up for this, and has had plenty of free publicity.

She always struck me as someone of reasonable intelligence, surely she knows it goes with the territory?
:)

As for 'Cultural Olympics', how could any Town that puts forward the examples we have had so far be even considering itself, 'Cultural'?
:confused:

garinda 09-11-2010 15:47

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 860051)
Has Gayle has decided never to darken this website again, as she said she might? I can't say I blame her if she has, she's taken some stick on here.
However, she never did tell us what Hyndburns contribution to the 'Cultural Olympics' London 2012 would be and what it was going to cost.Does anyone know?


There's been open debate before, about the value of publicly funded ar in the area.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...hem-17904.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ire-17860.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ght-10871.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...poll-8988.html

If the people employed by the tax payer to promote community art, wish to enter into a public debate as to the worth and value of such things, that is totally up to them.

garinda 09-11-2010 16:36

Re: The value of public funded art
 
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 860051)
Has Gayle has decided never to darken this website again, as she said she might? I can't say I blame her if she has, she's taken some stick on here.
However, she never did tell us what Hyndburns contribution to the 'Cultural Olympics' London 2012 would be and what it was going to cost.Does anyone know?


Besides, although it's now apparent Gayle's role is now much more than as that of creative director of the Civic arts centre, and is now concerned with all the arts in Hyndburn, surely there must be more than one person who knows the funding costs of specific events?

Since the information has now been released that Hyndburn Borough Council are providing 'about' 25% of the funding costs, perhaps one of our councillors will inform the public of the finances from the public purse that are involved?

Until such time as there is complete and total openess, and real transparency, of all the funding costs involved, for ALL events, the public has really very little chance of evaluating the true worth to us of community art.


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