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gynn 21-10-2010 05:54

Feeding the Ducks
 
I've got a suggestion for the first two public sector jobs to go as a result of the cuts.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Mum ticked off for feeding the wrong bread to ducks

Hailsham Council will be better off without the "fluorescent jacketed busy-body" who told them off, and the jobsworth "deputy town clerk" who defended his action.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Neil 21-10-2010 06:37

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People will moan about anything. Feeding ducks white bread is bad for them as stated in that link by the Council's vet. It sounds to me like the lady in question did not like being told, so moaned about it.

From that article
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She said: “There were loads of ducks around us and they looked quite hungry.
What does a hungry duck look like? Do they walk around rubbing their bellies with a sad look on their faces? :rolleyes::D

It sounds like he was polite from this

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“Then a man in a fluorescent waistcoat who was holding a litter pick-up stick came over to me and said ‘I know you mean well but giving them white bread is not good for them’.”
And the explanation from the Council is fair enough as well

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Nickey Caria, deputy town clerk at Hailsham Town Council, said the official was merely passing on advice they had received from vets.

He said: “We have been advised by an animal rescue centre here that the public should be urged not to feed wild birds white bread as it is bad for them.
Then we get this daft person interfering

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Josie Appleton, of civil liberties campaign group the Manifesto Club, said: “It is amazing that health fascism extends to the digestive system of ducks.

“We need to rein in the powers of fluorescent-jacketed busy-bodies.” Naturalist Chris Packham, presenter off the BBC’s Autumn Watch, said: “I wouldn’t stop anyone from feeding birds. We send out the message that wildlife needs our help all the time so it seems a bit churlish to tell people what food to use.”
Its got nothing to do with "health fascism" and everything to do with the ducks health.

gynn 21-10-2010 06:42

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You missed out the last bit.

"Naturalist Chris Packham, presenter off the BBC’s Autumn Watch, said: “I wouldn’t stop anyone from feeding birds. We send out the message that wildlife needs our help all the time so it seems a bit churlish to tell people what food to use.”

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Neil 21-10-2010 06:53

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 853648)
You missed out the last bit.

"Naturalist Chris Packham, presenter off the BBC’s Autumn Watch, said: “I wouldn’t stop anyone from feeding birds. We send out the message that wildlife needs our help all the time so it seems a bit churlish to tell people what food to use.”

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I left that out on purpose because he was talking rubbish.

garinda 21-10-2010 07:00

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I feed the birds near me with dainty morsels of toasted white bread, spread with a little duck pâté.

They love it.

:D

Ken Moss 21-10-2010 07:02

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 853651)
I left that out on purpose because he was talking rubbish.

You're claiming better knowledge of wildlife than Chris Packham?? Brave man.

We keep chickens in our works yard and they'll have anything we throw at them. They're not showing any signs of ill health yet after three years and I dare say they're a damn sight better off than in the battery cages they came from.

The fat balls, bread and scraps that I leave out for the sparrows and starlings at Rishton Towers also seem to go down well.

We're in a dense urban area, surely feeding the birds something is better than not having them at all? They don't seem to mind and they keep breeding so I'm assuming that the odd slice of Warburton's finest isn't doing them any real harm.

Neil 21-10-2010 07:04

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 853652)
I feed the birds near me with dainty morsels of toasted white bread, spread with a little duck pâté.

They love it.

Forced duck cannibalism, you are one sick puppy :D

Neil 21-10-2010 07:08

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 853653)
You're claiming better knowledge of wildlife than Chris Packham?? Brave man.

No I am not claiming that, just saying he was talking rubbish. He should be doing what the Council chap was and advise people what is the right and wrong foods to feed them.

A while our goats in the park were quite sick because someone had been feeding them the wrong things. If the vet had not been called out to give them an anti-emetic one of them could have died as he was very ill.

Ken Moss 21-10-2010 07:16

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 853655)
No I am not claiming that, just saying he was talking rubbish. He should be doing what the Council chap was and advise people what is the right and wrong foods to feed them.

A while our goats in the park were quite sick because someone had been feeding them the wrong things. If the vet had not been called out to give them an anti-emetic one of them could have died as he was very ill.

The digestive capabilities of birds and grazing animals are quite different so that doesn't surprise me but most fowl will snaffle up anything they find with no ill effects.

Anything that can merrily peck away at dog muck and thrive won't be worried by a sliced loaf.

garinda 21-10-2010 08:51

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 853654)
Forced duck cannibalism, you are one sick puppy :D

I should mention I'm, not stupid, and don't feed all the birds that.

The geese get pâté de foie gras on their toasted white bread.

garinda 21-10-2010 08:53

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 853658)
The digestive capabilities of birds and grazing animals are quite different so that doesn't surprise me but most fowl will snaffle up anything they find with no ill effects.

Anything that can merrily peck away at dog muck and thrive won't be worried by a sliced loaf.

Seagulls feast on puke at the seaside, and have a very healthy looking plumage.

:D

jaysay 21-10-2010 09:10

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 853652)
I feed the birds near me with dainty morsels of toasted white bread, spread with a little duck pâté.

They love it.

:D

Your rearing a flock of bloodY cannibals G:D

garinda 21-10-2010 09:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 853687)
Your rearing a flock of bloodY cannibals G:D

Just be grateful I didn't enter the pie business.

;)

:D

Neil 21-10-2010 09:21

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 853658)
The digestive capabilities of birds and grazing animals are quite different so that doesn't surprise me but most fowl will snaffle up anything they find with no ill effects.

Anything that can merrily peck away at dog muck and thrive won't be worried by a sliced loaf.

You don't have to believe me if you don't want, do a bit of googling and you will find out why you should not feed water fowl white bread (and other things). You will learn how it can be a cause of botulism in water fowl, how it fills them up but provides little nutrition etc etc.

We have polite signs in Rhyddings asking people not to feed the animals before asking the people looking after them. That way they can be educated as to what and why and why not.

Ken Moss 21-10-2010 09:29

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 853694)
You don't have to believe me if you don't want, do a bit of googling and you will find out why you should not feed water fowl white bread (and other things). You will learn how it can be a cause of botulism in water fowl, how it fills them up but provides little nutrition etc etc.

We have polite signs in Rhyddings asking people not to feed the animals before asking the people looking after them. That way they can be educated as to what and why and why not.

I'm not questioning that, it has been said for years that it isn't in the best interests of ducks (and hedgehogs, for that matter) to feed them bread but it is firmly entrenched in the British psyche as just something that we do and it doesn't generally seem to do too much harm to the resident bird population.

Better feeding the ducks than mindlessly blowing away the geese, something we're having to deal with in Rishton at the moment.

jaysay 21-10-2010 09:32

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 853690)
Just be grateful I didn't enter the pie business.

;)

:D

Phewwwwwww I was going to call in yesterday too:D

garinda 21-10-2010 09:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 853704)
Phewwwwwww I was going to call in yesterday too:D

Luckily Rindy Todd-Lovett's pie shop was never on the cards.

:D

Benipete 21-10-2010 10:15

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I find that ducks reared on Garlic Bread taste far better than those on Hovis Brown Wholemeal.:cook38::D

jaysay 21-10-2010 10:22

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 853716)
I find that ducks reared on Garlic Bread taste far better than those on Hovis Brown Wholemeal.:cook38::D

Wonder what Haggis taste like if they're reared on Garlic Bread Beni:D

Benipete 21-10-2010 10:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 853717)
Wonder what Haggis taste like if they're reared on Garlic Bread Beni:D

The French ones are.;):D

AngleIron 21-10-2010 15:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 853677)
Seagulls feast on puke at the seaside, and have a very healthy looking plumage.

:D

why does no one ever eat seagulls?....:confused::confused:

Benipete 21-10-2010 15:45

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Originally Posted by AngleIron (Post 853747)
why does no one ever eat seagulls?....:confused::confused:

Because they are fed the wrong diet.;):D:D

Eric 21-10-2010 17:40

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 853658)
The digestive capabilities of birds and grazing animals are quite different so that doesn't surprise me but most fowl will snaffle up anything they find with no ill effects.

Anything that can merrily peck away at dog muck and thrive won't be worried by a sliced loaf.

Agree with this ... I suppose that none of you have had the opportunity to see a crow eating a freshly killed skunk:eek::D

Eric 21-10-2010 17:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 853652)
I feed the birds near me with dainty morsels of toasted white bread, spread with a little duck pâté.

They love it.

:D


I feed them quantities of No. 4 shot .... they hate it:D

jaysay 21-10-2010 17:43

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Originally Posted by AngleIron (Post 853747)
why does no one ever eat seagulls?....:confused::confused:

Think the answer is in the post you quoted on:D

jaysay 21-10-2010 17:55

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 853767)
I feed them quantities of No. 4 shot .... they hate it:D

But does it fatten um up Eric:D:D

kestrelx 21-10-2010 18:07

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 853648)
You missed out the last bit.

"Naturalist Chris Packham, presenter off the BBC’s Autumn Watch, said: “I wouldn’t stop anyone from feeding birds. We send out the message that wildlife needs our help all the time so it seems a bit churlish to tell people what food to use.”

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I read that Chris Packham said something to the effect, "we should let endangered species like the Panda die out naturally rather than spending loads of money on them when they'll die out anyway!" This was an article in one of the tabloids.

I've heard that white bread is bad for water birds innards, brown bread is better as it's got more roughage. Another problem is people tend to throw the bread in regardless whether the birds eat it or not and this causes pollution to the water and attracts rats.

But you rarely see a dead duck or any other water birds in the park - white bread just causes them a lingering belly ache and bowel problems ...:p So only wholemeal Kingsmill in the future and no mouldy old dough :hothothot:hothothot:hothothot

YouTube - 3| Lieutenant Pigeon - Mouldy Old Dough (Christmas TOTP '72)

kestrelx 21-10-2010 18:10

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Originally Posted by AngleIron (Post 853747)
why does no one ever eat seagulls?....:confused::confused:

People did used to eat Seagulls - but it's a bit politically incorrect these days, even though there are loads of them. I don't know what they taste like. Seagull eggs and plover eggs used to be available in grocers back before the 60's I think.

yerself 21-10-2010 18:11

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The best stuff to feed to ducks is barley. You can buy a 25kg sack for about £6, much better for them than bread.

kestrelx 21-10-2010 18:17

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 853780)
The best stuff to feed to ducks is barley. You can buy a 25kg sack for about Ł6, much better for them than bread.

At that price I think you'd be justified in necking a few for yourself at Christmas! :D

flashy 21-10-2010 19:17

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a certain member of my family reckons giving pigeons uncooked rice is good for them, kills them off :D


yeah i know, my bad


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