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jaysay 22-10-2010 11:13

Hospital appointments
 
I've just been to the Royal for a check up this morning and whilst I was waiting for the ambulance to take me home I was reading the notice board:eek::eek::eek::eek:
It appears that around 60,000 hospital appointments are missed each year in East Lancashire Hospitals at a cost of £5.8 million enough to pay the wages of 270 nurses for a year

SO DO YOUR BIT
KEEP IT, OR CANCEL IT
BUT DON'T FORGET IT

garinda 22-10-2010 11:16

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Some may have died, waiting.

Neil 22-10-2010 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 853963)
I've just been to the Royal for a check up this morning and whilst I was waiting for the ambulance to take me home I was reading the notice board:eek::eek::eek::eek:
It appears that around 60,000 hospital appointments are missed each year in East Lancashire Hospitals at a cost of £5.8 million enough to pay the wages of 270 nurses for a year

SO DO YOUR BIT
KEEP IT, OR CANCEL IT
BUT DON'T FORGET IT

Its not real money though is it?

Maybe if a few appointments are missed each day you wont have to wait as long when you go for your appointment.

flashy 22-10-2010 11:30

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BOLLOX to the appointment keeping, went for my pre op in April and i still havent heard anything about when i go for my op, despite attempting to chase it up

the hospital are arse's when it comes to stats...

Neil 22-10-2010 11:39

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I did offer to sort it out for you, being persuasive and charming not just grumpy like you :p :D

flashy 22-10-2010 11:45

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i tried too sort it out myself

Acrylic-bob 22-10-2010 15:04

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In the spring I went to the GP complaing of pain in both shoulders and my neck. he sent me off for xrays. they only xrayed one shoulder and came back ten days later with a diagnosis of Osteo-arthritis. Boo hoo for me. So the gp said that the best course would be to try Physiotherapy first, then medication, then if all else failed we would have to consider surgery - double boo hoo for me. while waiting for the appointment for physio I went for my eye test and got some new specs from tesco (£10 a pair wot a bargain) and found to my surprise that headache from neck had gone. Hooray! two months later got physio appointment so off I trotted and was made to wait an hour to be seen. The advice was to do a few light stretching exercises - this despite being told that I am lifting heavy weights all day at work-, and make another appointment so we can completete your assesment because I just haven't got time to finish it today. Needless to say I did not bother. The main reason being that, surprising though it may seem, my degenerative cartilege disease appears to have miraculously healed itself.

If I were a superstitious cove I would put this down to the intercession of the Blessed Cardinal Newman. But being a cynical old sod. it is more likley to be just another case of medical misdiagnosis. And to think I was nearly lined up for Surgery!

The moral of this story is, I suppose, the NHS is more than capable of wasting it's own time and resources without ungrateful patients helping out by missing appointments, thank you very much. The very idea!

Taggy 22-10-2010 15:08

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 853965)
Some may have died, waiting.

That could well be the case even after you've been given an appointment! A couple of weeks back i had an appointment at the Eye Clinic up at Royal Blackburn. My appointment time was for 10am..........i eventually got in to see the specialist at 1pm!! By the time tests were done it was 3pm when i left!
It was even worse for people would were bringing their small kids to the clinic, and 2 carers who were with a Disabled lady had to take her away because she was becoming "restless" and had to make another appointment for some months ahead!
It didn't help that a nurse kept coming in to tell us the waiting time was first 1hr..then 1.5 hrs...then 2hrs etc etc! rather than just being honest from the outset! Very Frustrating!

Best Regards - Taggy

SPUGGIE J 22-10-2010 15:45

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Its not just hospitals that suffer from appointments being missed and not cancelled but GP's practices as well. My Drs practice puts up a list off missed appointments on a month to month basis. Though how, when the appointments are on a same dauy basis each Dr has 1 miss per day beats me. I have only ever missed 1 hospital appointment because an admin error had me the right time right Dr but wrong hospital. So maybe there is a minute bit of that as well. Even when I once thought I would be late (though landed on time) I phoned ahead to let them know and that was because I was going to the new hospital up here and didnt have a clue which buses went there from were or how often. The Info I had was as useful as a bikini in Antarctica. There may be oter reasons but I doubt if any cash saved because more people get there would be plowed back in to front line services inc nurses. Personally I think a lump would end up as a bonus for a faceless desk jockey.

garinda 22-10-2010 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 853963)
I've just been to the Royal for a check up this morning and whilst I was waiting for the ambulance to take me home I was reading the notice board:eek::eek::eek::eek:
It appears that around 60,000 hospital appointments are missed each year in East Lancashire Hospitals at a cost of £5.8 million enough to pay the wages of 270 nurses for a year

SO DO YOUR BIT
KEEP IT, OR CANCEL IT
BUT DON'T FORGET IT

I wonder how many appointments they cancelled in that time frame, and what the cost to the economy was?

I was seen for a pre-op assesment in May. I had a letter telling me the operation would be in August. The evening before I was due in, after transport had been arranged, they cancelled the operation.

Subsequently they offered me the option to have it done in Burnley, rather than Blackburn, and it was done earlier this month.

The operation I had needs to be packed, and dressed daily, and on discharge from Burnley, I was told the district nurse would come and do it.

The first day they telephoned to say they would be there after 3pm, in the time frame I'd been given of 8.30am - 5pm. I said that was great, and I'd now be able to go and get a paper.

Because I said I was going for a paper the district nurse sister said I wasn't housebound, and therefore they wouldn't be attending, and I should see the nurse at my GP's. Fair enough.

There isn't a nurse available at my GP's on Wednesdays and at the weekend, so I was told to see a nurse at the Acorn Centre on Wednesdays, and Accy Vic's emergency outpatients at the weekend.

The first time I was due at the Acorn my mum phoned the district nurse sister, and asked if they'd pack and dress the wound, as I couldn't sit in a taxi, as I'd planned to do. She told my mum that even though I have mobility issues anyway, and struggle walking in the mornings because of Parkinson's disease, I wasn't actually housebound, so no. I took a taxi, and lay in the back. Thankfully we didn't crash.

My GP's nurse was off today, so back to the Acorn.

'I've arranged for the visiting dressing nurse to come out this weekend to you.'

'Who? You mean the district nurse?'

'No, the visiting wound dressing nurse service, part of the Primary Care Trust.'

'Great, thanks.'

You live and learn.

Perhaps the different parts of the NHS should learn too, when it comes to what patient services are available.

I've no complaints about the nursing care. They've been great. Well, all except the district nurse sister, who was a bit of a harridan in training. Her face, and people skills, could have curdled milk.

I had the same operation twice, in my last year at college, and both failed because they became infected, and even though they were dressed daily by the district nurse. With this operation costing presumably thousands of pounds, you'd have thought the aftercare would have been a bit more organised. I have to travel with a bag of equipment in case the places I've been don't have them. Luckily I'm able to tell the nurses what needs doing at each place, because there are no notes. I pity anyone old, or unable to communicate that the wound needs washing, packing, and dressing.

Overall, fantastic nursing care, but just a very disjointed NHS as a whole.

I won't now mention the terrible amount of waste witnessed at Burnley General. If it was a commercial concern it would have ceased trading years ago.

jaysay 22-10-2010 17:56

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Well I've been using the NHS as an in and out patient and I can honestly say I have only ever had a problem once and that wasn't real the fault of the clinic I was attending. These days I have to go by hospital transport because I use oxygen, but previously I was taken to by OP appointments by my Daughter, I always arrived well in time, I actually lost my rag with one woman who was kicking up a fuss because she had not been seen within half an hour of arriving in the OPD even though she was 20 minutes late for her appointment time. today my appointment was for 9-30am the ambulance picked me up at 8-55am I arrived at the CC at 9-15m was seen by at 9-25am my assessment took longer than expected because unforeseen problems cropped up, but I was home done and busted by 11-30 and that is par for the course

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 21:09

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how can anybody complain about the nhs its free not like in other countries we are taking it for granted it will never be 100% perfect but its free so dont take it for granted because it might not be here for long if the tories get their way..

Taggy 22-10-2010 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854145)
how can anybody complain about the nhs its free not like in other countries we are taking it for granted it will never be 100% perfect but its free so dont take it for granted because it might not be here for long if the tories get their way..

Its not Free we are all funding it in one way or another, we arnt the most highly taxed nation on earth for nowt! The treatment you get in many other countries now far exceeds what we provide here, yes some of these countries have to pay directly more for it, but as a result have more brass in their pockets to start with! I'm a Taxpayer and when things arnt quite right then i can exercise my right to complain!

Best Regards - Taggy

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 21:37

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so you want what it is like in other countries,they pay taxes and still have to paY MEDICAL INSURANCE TO GET TREATED OR have TO PAY TO GeT TREATment that leaves the poorest in society having to be reliant on charity or just die thats why the taxpayer funds it in this country it is also far superior to most hospitals in most countries. i would only complain if there was neglegence and not act like a spoilt brat because i have to wait a bit longer if it wasnt life threatening.

walkinman221 22-10-2010 21:45

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Well said, i think that for the most part the nhs do a fantastic job the staff on the frontline are good and want to do a good job but are hog tied by red tape and poor managment systems like any goverment body bureaucracy is the overiding factor in a already complex set up.

garinda 22-10-2010 21:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854145)
how can anybody complain about the nhs its free not like in other countries we are taking it for granted it will never be 100% perfect but its free so dont take it for granted because it might not be here for long if the tories get their way..

Free?

I think you need to see a doctor.

Aneurin Bevan will be laughing, as he turns in his grave.

It's quite permisible to draw attention to it's failings, if there's room for improvement.

I'll go and check if there's room in the secured, padded, ward, where they keep the others who think that certain things are funded by the 'money faries' that come in the night, with their little sacks of cash.

garinda 22-10-2010 21:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854145)
how can anybody complain about the nhs its free not like in other countries we are taking it for granted it will never be 100% perfect but its free so dont take it for granted because it might not be here for long if the tories get their way..

On second reading that has to be up there with the one of the stupidest things I've ever read on here, and using it to score cheap political points makes it doubly offensive.

The karma deductions on me.

walkinman221 22-10-2010 21:51

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Can you have a word with my kids onthis point plz:D

Mancie 22-10-2010 21:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 854148)
Its not Free we are all funding it in one way or another, we arnt the most highly taxed nation on earth for nowt! The treatment you get in many other countries now far exceeds what we provide here, yes some of these countries have to pay directly more for it, but as a result have more brass in their pockets to start with! I'm a Taxpayer and when things arnt quite right then i can exercise my right to complain!

Best Regards - Taggy

So can you tell us more about your experience of the treatment in other countries that "far exceeds what we provide here"?

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 21:51

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its free to the poor and disadvantaged the disabled who havent had the choice to have a job who in other countries have to rely on charities;)

Wynonie Harris 22-10-2010 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 854174)
So can you tell us more about your experience of the treatment in other countries that "far exceeds what we provide here"?

Blimey, Taggy, now you're for it, a double-pronged attack from the Accyweb Marxist-Leninist Militant Tendency! ;)

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 21:57

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cheers for negative karma garinda hitting a raw nerve am i..:D:D the nhs is far superior to most countries as i say;)

garinda 22-10-2010 21:59

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 854165)
Well said, i think that for the most part the nhs do a fantastic job

No one's said any differently. Certainly not in this thread.

Many doctors and nurses I know are totally feed up with the current system, which increases their all ready heavy work loads even further, year after year. Whilst we've seen in recent years, under the last Labour government, as it happens cmonstanley, a massive increase in the amount of non-medical pen pushers.

There is a great deal of waste in the current NHS system. I've witnesed it, and if I didn't care, and didn't appreciate it, and desire to see the N.H.S. improved, I wouldn't bother drawing attention to it.

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854172)
On second reading that has to be up there with the one of the stupidest things I've ever read on here, and using it to score cheap political points makes it doubly offensive.

The karma deductions on me.

labour started the nhs not the tories thats a fact not a cheap political point..

garinda 22-10-2010 22:03

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854178)
cheers for negative karma garinda hitting a raw nerve am i..:D:D the nhs is far superior to most countries as i say;)

No, not hitting a nerve.

Just disapoointed and besumed at your lack of knowledge, from one who prides himself on knowing the roots, and history, of true socialism, rather than an idiotic ramblings of a moron.

There ready for you down on the ward, with the other nutters who think the fairies fund the N.H.S, and it's therefore 'free'.

;)

garinda 22-10-2010 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854180)
labour started the nhs not the tories thats a fact not a cheap political point..

Really?

Like no way!

I wondered why I mentioned Nye Bevan.

Now I know.

:rolleyes:

walkinman221 22-10-2010 22:07

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The average costs for health insurance in 2009 in the USA was On average, $2,985 for a single person and $6,328 for a family i wonder how these figures compare for the amount of our tax national insurance etc that goes to the nhs?

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 22:08

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still say the nhs is still one of the best in the word ditto:)the penpushers were probably for all legalities of the claim culture;) where thers blaim theres a claim.

DaveinGermany 22-10-2010 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854160)
that leaves the poorest in society having to be reliant on charity or just die thats why the taxpayer funds it in this country it is also far superior to most hospitals in most countries.

As to your first point C'mon, here in Germany, those less fortunate & on benefits are treated through the system & are NOT required to pay towards their treatment, whereas someone like myself gainfully employed pay a % of my monthly wage into the aforementioned system to assist in this treatment of the less well off. Further to that should I require treatment I will also be asked to pay a certain amount (irrespective of already having put into the pot). Plus every quarter (If I visit a Doctor or Dentist I have to pay an extra €10,00 so should I require both €20,00).

Secondly as to superior ? That I would question, if the NHS were so, why then do some operations & treatments get outsourced to other European Countries ? Cost ? Expertise ? Or the NHS aren't capable of dealing ? Not to knock it, the NHS is a worthy asset to the UK, but over the years it has become unsuitable for purpose & top heavy with self important nobodies, it requires a major overhaul/shakedown to lose the deadwood which has been foisted upon the service. That done the NHS can once again be a shining example of "free" public health care.

garinda 22-10-2010 22:09

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854175)
its free to the poor and disadvantaged the disabled who havent had the choice to have a job who in other countries have to rely on charities;)

Did the magical money fairies whisper you that?

Even the 'poor, disadvantaged, and disabled' pay taxes.

Ever heard of V.A.T., amongst the many other taxes those you highlight, might have to pay?

Mancie 22-10-2010 22:13

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Of course the NHS has never been a "free" service... that is why the tories bent over backwards to oppose it's creation... the idea of the whole working population having to directly contribute towards a NHS was aborrent to the tories who could afford to pay direct for healh care....but the vast majority of working people struggled.

garinda 22-10-2010 22:25

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854186)
....the penpushers were probably for all legalities of the claim culture;) where thers blaim theres a claim.


...and when did we see a massive rise in that sort of claim culture thinking?

Since 1997, that's when. When the New Labour government allowed a generation of people to believe that living off benefits was the prefered career option of choice. Thus allowing them to watch all the 'no win, no fee' adverts, that punctuate the Jeremy Kyle show, whilst sat on their arses.

You wouldn't know anything about real socialism, if you sat on a flag pole flying the Red Flag, and needed a visit to outpatients....for 'free' treatment.

;)

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 22:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 854187)
As to your first point C'mon, here in Germany, those less fortunate & on benefits are treated through the system & are NOT required to pay towards their treatment, whereas someone like myself gainfully employed pay a % of my monthly wage into the aforementioned system to assist in this treatment of the less well off. Further to that should I require treatment I will also be asked to pay a certain amount (irrespective of already having put into the pot). Plus every quarter (If I visit a Doctor or Dentist I have to pay an extra €10,00 so should I require both €20,00).

Secondly as to superior ? That I would question, if the NHS were so, why then do some operations & treatments get outsourced to other European Countries ? Cost ? Expertise ? Or the NHS aren't capable of dealing ? Not to knock it, the NHS is a worthy asset to the UK, but over the years it has become unsuitable for purpose & top heavy with self important nobodies, it requires a major overhaul/shakedown to lose the deadwood which has been foisted upon the service. That done the NHS can once again be a shining example of "free" public health care.

so you pay your tax and then you have to pay again just proved a point about the nhs;)

cashman 22-10-2010 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854160)
so you want what it is like in other countries,they pay taxes and still have to paY MEDICAL INSURANCE TO GET TREATED OR have TO PAY TO GeT TREATment that leaves the poorest in society having to be reliant on charity or just die thats why the taxpayer funds it in this country it is also far superior to most hospitals in most countries. i would only complain if there was neglegence and not act like a spoilt brat because i have to wait a bit longer if it wasnt life threatening.

thats complete balls, some ya have some yah aint to pay medical insurance, having lived in one that don't i can say that, i just paid equivalent to national insurance wi me occupation, at that time, i have had marvellous treatment from our own NHS, also one real crap one, also me late wife had a very bad un here, the concept of N.I. was to cover such things, like you i honestly thought ours was superior to others, well abroad i soon learnt that is not the case, but if ya think so dream on. :rolleyes: it is not acting like a spoilt brat to complain about any shortcomings in fact its stupid not to do so.:(

Mancie 22-10-2010 22:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854194)
...and when did we see a massive rise in that sort of claim culture thinking?

Since 1997, that's when. When the New Labour government allowed a generation of people to believe that living off benefits was the prefered career option of choice. Thus allowing them to watch all the 'no win, no fee' adverts, that punctuate the Jeremy Kyle show, whilst sat on their arses.

You wouldn't know anything about real socialism, if you sat on a flag pole flying the Red Flag, and needed a visit to outpatients....for 'free' treatment.

;)

And in the 80's under tory rule there was no choice!... 6 million either on the dole or on the sick.. not caused by any worldwide recession but caused by an incompentent idealistic right wing government... the "free market".. grab what you can.. and that included the solicitors of the claim game.

DaveinGermany 22-10-2010 22:43

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Actually the point I was making was that the less well off don't suffer here or as you put it :-

that leaves the poorest in society having to be reliant on charity or just die

I believe that to be the case in UK too ? Those employed pay taxes which are in turn used to support the NHS (taxpayer funded) so theoretically the NHS isn't "free" it is subsidised by the working man & Woman. Yes I pay several times over while I work, but should I be unfortunate enough to lose my employment I can rest assured I will receive the same standard of treatment (without having to put my hand in my pocket) as I would've when employed.

garinda 22-10-2010 22:43

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 854199)
thats complete balls, some ya have some yah aint to pay medical insurance, having lived in one that don't i can say that, i just paid equivalent to national insurance wi me occupation, at that time, i have had marvellous treatment from our own NHS, also one real crap one, also me late wife had a very bad un here, the concept of N.I. was to cover such things, like you i honestly thought ours was superior to others, well abroad i soon learnt that is not the case, but if ya think so dream on. :rolleyes: it is not acting like a spoilt brat to complain about any shortcomings in fact its stupid not to do so.:(

Well said, and welcome back.

Though you'll probably now be branded a fascist, despite your own history, beliefs, and your background spent working for the unions, for umpteen years.

:rolleyes:

garinda 22-10-2010 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 854201)
And in the 80's under tory rule there was no choice!... 6 million either on the dole or on the sick.. not caused by any worldwide recession but caused by an incompentent idealistic right wing government... the "free market".. grab what you can.. and that included the solicitors of the claim game.

'Grab what you can'.

Classic quote from a true class warrior.

I'll be round tomorrow to break in, and steal the food from your family's table.

Up the revolution.

Beam me up Keir Hardie, everything is well in La-la-land.

Taggy 22-10-2010 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854160)
so you want what it is like in other countries,they pay taxes and still have to paY MEDICAL INSURANCE TO GET TREATED OR have TO PAY TO GeT TREATment that leaves the poorest in society having to be reliant on charity or just die thats why the taxpayer funds it in this country it is also far superior to most hospitals in most countries. i would only complain if there was neglegence and not act like a spoilt brat because i have to wait a bit longer if it wasnt life threatening.

In most cases they pay taxes MUCH LOWER than ours so the medical insurance they pay only really brings everything into line cost wise as our FREE nhs!...The actual care level in the NHS these days is far less than it ever was..basically because we now Train nurses at College rather than on wards..so that when they actually have to deal with REAL patients they havn't a ruddy clue how to approach them in a compassionate and caring manner!
Leaving aside my "Spoiled Brat" attitude, as an out patient!..I recently had to endure diabolical treatment of my Father in 3 local hospitals as an In Patient who suffered from Parkinsons Disease....not only was the basic care he received disgusting...the level of understanding of his condition, and admisistration of medication was pathetic!..This was someone who served in the forces, paid into the system all his life.and quite frankly was treated like dog muck by the NHS!! And yes i'm actually complaining about basic nursing standards here..not just administration!
The NHS as we once knew it..does not exist anymore!

So you get down from your ruddy high horse and return to the real world!!

Best Regards - Taggy

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 22:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 854202)
Actually the point I was making was that the less well off don't suffer here or as you put it :-

that leaves the poorest in society having to be reliant on charity or just die

I believe that to be the case in UK too ? Those employed pay taxes which are in turn used to support the NHS (taxpayer funded) so theoretically the NHS isn't "free" it is subsidised by the working man & Woman. Yes I pay several times over while I work, but should I be unfortunate enough to lose my employment I can rest assured I will receive the same standard of treatment (without having to put my hand in my pocket) as I would've when employed.

as i said most countries not all ie usa

Mancie 22-10-2010 22:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854204)
'Grab what you can'.

Classic quote from a true class warrior.

I'll be round tomorrow to break in, and steal the food from your family's table.

Up the revolution.

Beam me up Keir Hardie, everything is well in La-la-land.

I'm saying the grab what you can culture was created and even encouraged under the tories and I'd bet most claims for any compensation were made by those able to afford to make a cliam.. maybe history is repeating with Cameron's so called "big society" because the trouble is the rich tories are a lot bigger than most people.

garinda 22-10-2010 23:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 854206)
In most cases they pay taxes MUCH LOWER than ours so the medical insurance they pay only really brings everything into line cost wise as our FREE nhs!...The actual care level in the NHS these days is far less than it ever was..basically because we now Train nurses at College rather than on wards..so that when they actually have to deal with REAL patients they havn't a ruddy clue how to approach them in a compassionate and caring manner!
Leaving aside my "Spoiled Brat" attitude, as an out patient!..I recently had to endure diabolical treatment of my Father in 3 local hospitals as an In Patient who suffered from Parkinsons Disease....not only was the basic care he received disgusting...the level of understanding of his condition, and admisistration of medication was pathetic!..This was someone who served in the forces, paid into the system all his life.and quite frankly was treated like dog muck by the NHS!! And yes i'm actually complaining about basic nursing standards here..not just administration!
The NHS as we once knew it..does not exist anymore!

So you get down from your ruddy high horse and return to the real world!!

Best Regards - Taggy

There are some wonderful, dedicated nurses, who work to the best of their ability, under sometimes very difficult working conditions.

On the other hand, as you say, some have opted for nursing as a career, through academia, and have as much passion, understanding, and empathy as Eva Braun.

I've experienced some, who work in mental health, who were really so disturbed it left you wondering who was the patient, and who was on the staff.

Another, a male nurse on a surgical ward at Blackburn, shouldn't really be allowed near any living animal, certainly not a sick human.

Neil 22-10-2010 23:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854044)
I won't now mention the terrible amount of waste witnessed at Burnley General. If it was a commercial concern it would have ceased trading years ago.

Go on mention it because I see it every time I visit hospitals. Not saying the treatment is bad but oh so much wasted manpower

garinda 22-10-2010 23:15

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 854214)
Go on mention it because I see it every time I visit hospitals. Not saying the treatment is bad but oh so much wasted manpower

I've got to keep something held back, for a rainy day.

Blame the cuts.

:D

Taggy 22-10-2010 23:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854212)
There are some wonderful, dedicated nurses, who work to the best of their ability, under sometimes very difficult working conditions.

On the other hand, as you say, some have opted for nursing as a career, through academia, and have as much passion, understanding, and empathy as Eva Braun.

I've experienced some, who work in mental health, who were really so disturbed it left you wondering who was the patient, and who was on the staff.

Another, a male nurse on a surgical ward at Blackburn, shouldn't really be allowed near any living animal, certainly not a sick human.

Your'e correct in saying that we do still have some wonderful staff employed within the NHS, however their "shining lights" are being ever more dimmed by the needs of management & efficiency over Care. Patients by & large now are treated as numbers not as people, and that isn't progress is it!
I've never experienced less CARE now than at any stage than i can remember within the NHS almost every other person i speak to who has experienced hospital residence recently, has had some detrimental experience, which is mainly based around the level of care & understanding they have received! If loved ones went into hospital, we always used to say" well your in the best place now"..i'm afraid these days i wouldn't probably express that opinion.
I can honestly say now, that it really would worry me, having to be admitted to one of our local hospitals!..I know that it could happen one day soon..and i'll be honest..the thought frightens me...based purely on what i've seen!

Best Regards - Taggy

Mancie 22-10-2010 23:26

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I owe my life to the NHS surgeons,nurses,doctors and staff who saved my life only a few years ago.. at the same time I've come across some bad staff and recently had an op that went wrong with bad results..I'll live with it .. now if I had paid for that op to a private health care company I would have made a claim against them the very next day..and there is the real "claim culture"... I've paid my taxes and national insurance but it's not your average working man or women who make these claims... it's the already well off.

garinda 22-10-2010 23:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 854218)
Your'e correct in saying that we do still have some wonderful staff employed within the NHS, however their "shining lights" are being ever more dimmed by the needs of management & efficiency over Care. Patients by & large now are treated as numbers not as people, and that isn't progress is it!
I've never experienced less CARE now than at any stage than i can remember within the NHS almost every other person i speak to who has experienced hospital residence recently, has had some detrimental experience, which is mainly based around the level of care & understanding they have received! If loved ones went into hospital, we always used to say" well your in the best place now"..i'm afraid these days i wouldn't probably express that opinion.
I can honestly say now, that it really would worry me, having to be admitted to one of our local hospitals!..I know that it could happen one day soon..and i'll be honest..the thought frightens me...based purely on what i've seen!

Best Regards - Taggy

Agreed, and over the last thirteen years there's never been as much money pumped into the N.H.S., and yet the service can be very lacking in certain areas, regardless of the vast amount of waste, when it comes to resources.

Something stinks, and it's not just the packing in my wound.

Taggy 22-10-2010 23:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 854174)
So can you tell us more about your experience of the treatment in other countries that "far exceeds what we provide here"?

Well yes actually i can, although some of this may have been based around the generousity of a particular individual!..Some years ago we took our Son to America for treatment not available here at the time...he's Brain Injured, with complex problems!...During our visit he had an accident, and broke a bone in his foot, we rang the local hospital who sent an ambulance round within 15 mins, within 5 mins of admittance he was seen by a nurse, and had an x - ray within 10 mins. Now obviously we had private insurance to cover these initial problems, which may have helped speed this situation...but even with private insurance in UK i couldn't imagine things happening so quickly!

The Medics explained that his problems & broken bone were really as a result of his long term brain damage, which we knew really, but they offered to perform operations & provide physio free of charge, to help him out for 3 or 4 weeks, they explained that for the surgery to be successful however, he would need to undergo several weeks of Physio once he returned to the UK...we contacted his Doctors in UK to explain this but surprise surprise, they said that they would probably not be able to supply the physio he needed when he got back home!..Seeing as we couldn't afford weeks/possibly months of this treatment privately upon return, we had to decide it wasn't worth putting him through the trauma of the operation!

I've also got several stories of superb medical treatment that friends of mine have had in Spain, that excede what we would expect here, but i cant really be bothred going into those now!

Best Regards - Taggy

cmonstanley 22-10-2010 23:47

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i remember when the tories were last in power hospitals were crumbling and in so much disrepair there was damp and leaking roofs.when labour came in i never seen so many new hospitals,they had to invest or the nhs would have collapsed because it was so underfunded ander the last tory goverment.people have short memories.

DaveinGermany 22-10-2010 23:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 854219)
it's not your average working man or women who make these claims... it's the already well off.

What ? how do you work that one out ? You're having a laugh aren't you ? I come from Liverpool & believe me talking to people it's the everyday Man/Woman on the street making claims mate, anything for a quick Buck ! Just get onto Google give in "Man/Woman sues ???????" Council/Shop/whatever you like & have a look see just exactly whose claiming, no mate can't agree with you on that score.

BERNADETTE 22-10-2010 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854186)
still say the nhs is still one of the best in the word ditto:)the penpushers were probably for all legalities of the claim culture;) where thers blaim theres a claim.

Will agree with your first point to an extent, our NHS Service is the best if you keep pushing.;) But why should we have to fight for treatment that WE have paid into???:( Penpushers, I think we all agree on, there are far to many:o From personal experience I would say the person with the most reason to claim is unlikely to but yet the "blame for claim" culture grows:mad: What a sad state this country is in!!!!!

Mancie 23-10-2010 00:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 854225)
What ? how do you work that one out ? You're having a laugh aren't you ? I come from Liverpool & believe me talking to people it's the everyday Man/Woman on the street making claims mate, anything for a quick Buck ! Just get onto Google give in "Man/Woman sues ???????" Council/Shop/whatever you like & have a look see just exactly whose claiming, no mate can't agree with you on that score.

So now Google has taken over from the Daily Mail...I'd bet the highest percentage of claims made are those not on a "no win no fee" arrangement..but people can afford to spend thousands on lawyers when claiming compensation.. most can't.. so do we go back to the middle ages?...this government would like that idea and have already started the proccess.

garinda 23-10-2010 00:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 854226)
Penpushers, I think we all agree on, there are far to many

I'm reliably informed that locally the N.H.S. employ people to monitor sites like this, to make sure staff aren't critical, or worse, whistle blowers, regarding the running of the health care system.

spignific 23-10-2010 00:36

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The trouble with this debate is that people will have personal experiences of hospitals and so views will differ of course,from good to bad. so far i am lucky enough not to have stayed in hospitals but a lot of folks really have had to call on the nhs in times of great need.from what ive gathered the staff seem to do a good job with the time/finance they have and if they falter its because of pressure.

when in hospital my dad fell out bed and broke his hip and none of them even knew ? ? i still think they didnt even know how or when it happened..not good
lack of supervision i think.i.e. not enough nurses on at night ?

equip them and give them time ,that might be the key.it aint going to change now is it.not with the 'cuts'..opps sorry BE no cuts to NHS or education ,yea i'll bet you bloody liberal liars,WE'LL SEE HEY !!!!!!!!!!!

DaveinGermany 23-10-2010 00:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 854235)
So now Google has taken over from the Daily Mail

Mancie, I get my news on-line from various papers, when you've read several of them & juggled them round you come up with a more accurate overall view, as to google it was just a pointer so you can see what I'm on about.

As to whether or not it's a "No win, no Fee" or someone running through the Courts with an expensive lawyer is really of no concern to me, all I see is people from all walks of life trying to turn a fast Buck for their own benefit regardless of the damage it causes to whomever they are claiming from.

In the case of public bodies Councils/NHS/Schools the only people they're really screwing over is themselves & others like them in the long run because of their own personal greed ! Great for them but then because of their actions the Councils/NHS/Schools are now short of those funds, so less funds, less spending, no local improvements ...... sad but true.

BERNADETTE 23-10-2010 00:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854241)
I'm reliably informed that locally the N.H.S. employ people to monitor sites like this, to make sure staff aren't critical, or worse, whistle blowers, regarding the running of the health care system.

Whilst I take your points on board G, I also think OUR voices should be heard. For the most part My/Our dealings with the NHS were positive, but I do feel that any lines of communication should be kept open, be it be via phone, internet or god forbid "snail mail" If our N.H.S. relies on sites like "ours" for feed back I personally despair of how things are heading!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Mancie 23-10-2010 00:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 854245)
Mancie, I get my news on-line from various papers, when you've read several of them & juggled them round you come up with a more accurate overall view, as to google it was just a pointer so you can see what I'm on about.

As to whether or not it's a "No win, no Fee" or someone running through the Courts with an expensive lawyer is really of no concern to me, all I see is people from all walks of life trying to turn a fast Buck for their own benefit regardless of the damage it causes to whomever they are claiming from.

In the case of public bodies Councils/NHS/Schools the only people they're really screwing over is themselves & others like them in the long run because of their own personal greed ! Great for them but then because of their actions the Councils/NHS/Schools are now short of those funds, so less funds, less spending, no local improvements ...... sad but true.

Yes claims against the NHS/councils and such are not good for any community ..it seems to be the fashion that any claims made from ordinary people are reported as scroungers out to make a few quid.. but if some dustbin wagon smashed your car to bits would you claim or just take it for the community?

Neil 23-10-2010 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 854218)
Your'e correct in saying that we do still have some wonderful staff employed within the NHS, however their "shining lights" are being ever more dimmed by the needs of management & efficiency over Care.

I think the NHS is like any other Government department, it does not have to make money and they have no idea how to run a business. I blame the culture from the top to the bottom.

Its silly things like why does my GP close at lunchtime. They have 2 or 3 receptionists so they should stay open all day so people can make appointments and collect prescriptions etc in there lunch break.

Neil 23-10-2010 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854224)
when labour came in i never seen so many new hospitals,they had to invest or the nhs would have collapsed because it was so underfunded ander the last tory goverment.people have short memories.

Where did the money come from because it is obvious now we spent money we did not have. BRH was not built by the Government and we are paying dearly for it now as has been explained on this forum many times.

Neil 23-10-2010 08:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 854252)
Yes claims against the NHS/councils and such are not good for any community ..it seems to be the fashion that any claims made from ordinary people are reported as scroungers out to make a few quid.. but if some dustbin wagon smashed your car to bits would you claim or just take it for the community?

I am expecting my car back this morning that the recycling wagon hit a couple of weeks ago. If I had not actually seen the driver hit it he would have just driven away and pretended he did not see it, even though he had a man watching at both sides who also saw it happen. Great service from the Council or what, hit and run dustbin men. A van on the street has been damaged buy the recycling wagon a few times and they never stop.

jaysay 23-10-2010 09:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854224)
i remember when the tories were last in power hospitals were crumbling and in so much disrepair there was damp and leaking roofs.when labour came in i never seen so many new hospitals,they had to invest or the nhs would have collapsed because it was so underfunded and the last tory goverment.people have short memories.

Sorry to hear of your problem CS;);)gunshot to the foot can be very painful. It wasn't Labour who built the bloody hospitals, they were built with the Private Finance Initiative, which means we will be paying through the nose for decades to come;)

DaveinGermany 23-10-2010 09:38

Re: Hospital appointments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 854252)
Yes claims against the NHS/councils and such are not good for any community ..it seems to be the fashion that any claims made from ordinary people are reported as scroungers out to make a few quid.. but if some dustbin wagon smashed your car to bits would you claim or just take it for the community?

Completely different situation ! Of course I would claim & it would be genuine due to damage caused by negligence. No Mancie, the point I was making refers to spurious & dubious claims, people doing it for their own enrichment without genuine cause.

Examples of Local Fraud Cases - Dorset and Somerset Counter Fraud Service
News about the Rotherham and Dearne Valley areas - David Sammons was jailed for a year for fraud after submitting forged timesheets. Sammons (30), from Swinton, pleaded guilty to four counts of fraud following an investigation by NHS Rotherham Founda
Local Government Lawyer - Man jailed after false personal injury claims against London boroughs

take a look for yourself there are thousands out there & if you are honest with yourself you'll probably know of people who have done it.

cmonstanley 23-10-2010 09:43

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BBC News - Spending Review: Care cuts 'may hit hospital beds'

cmonstanley 23-10-2010 09:49

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another new hospital built in the labour era BBC News - Hospital robots cut hospital pharmacy bill

jaysay 23-10-2010 09:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854324)
another new hospital built in the labour era BBC News - Hospital robots cut hospital pharmacy bill

See you've no comment on my post 61 CS:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 23-10-2010 09:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 854307)
Sorry to hear of your problem CS;);)gunshot to the foot can be very painful. It wasn't Labour who built the bloody hospitals, they were built with the Private Finance Initiative, which means we will be paying through the nose for decades to come;)

at least they were built;)

cmonstanley 23-10-2010 09:57

Re: Hospital appointments
 
some more jobs go party of law and order my ass BBC News - Lancashire Police could axe all 427 PCSOs

jaysay 23-10-2010 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854326)
at least they were built;)

What a pathetic answer, if the Tories had done it you'd have been screaming privatisation, privatisation

jaysay 23-10-2010 10:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854327)
some more jobs go party of law and order my ass BBC News - Lancashire Police could axe all 427 PCSOs

Whats that got to do with the NHS you been on the Mancie juice

DaveinGermany 23-10-2010 10:10

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Here we go again, we've been over PCSO's in depth elsewhere,they are in all honesty useless & bring nothing but a presence on the streets costing good money that could be used better by employing proper Coppers !

But of course that really isn't your aim is it ? So long as you can have a dig at a party that doesn't suit your jaded dogmatic perception of "Proper governance" you'll turn pretty much anything into a political arguement. The title is "HOSPITAL APPOINTMENTS", why bring up PCSO's here, C'mon ? Either find the older thread or start a new one mate ! Then we can argue the toss all day long.

jaysay 23-10-2010 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 854333)
Here we go again, we've been over PCSO's in depth elsewhere,they are in all honesty useless & bring nothing but a presence on the streets costing good money that could be used better by employing proper Coppers !

But of course that really isn't your aim is it ? So long as you can have a dig at a party that doesn't suit your jaded dogmatic perception of "Proper governance" you'll turn pretty much anything into a political arguement. The title is "HOSPITAL APPOINTMENTS", why bring up PCSO's here, C'mon ? Either find the older thread or start a new one mate ! Then we can argue the toss all day long.

Great minds think alike Dave;)

garinda 23-10-2010 10:15

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A QUANGO set up to slash NHS waste spent nearly £1million on staff away days and hospitality in just 16 months.

Read more: Waste slashers’ £1mil on treats | The Sun |News

Just because money's thrown at something, doesn't necessarily make it better.

cashman 23-10-2010 10:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854335)
A QUANGO set up to slash NHS waste spent nearly £1million on staff away days and hospitality in just 16 months.

Read more: Waste slashers’ £1mil on treats | The Sun |News

Just because money's thrown at something, doesn't necessarily make it better.

Wonder who set that quango up?:D:D:D:D

garinda 23-10-2010 10:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854224)
i remember when the tories were last in power hospitals were crumbling and in so much disrepair there was damp and leaking roofs.when labour came in i never seen so many new hospitals,they had to invest or the nhs would have collapsed because it was so underfunded ander the last tory goverment.people have short memories.

I last had the same operation I've just had, in 1985.

The care then was just as good, if not better than now.

I witnessed a lot less waste in the N.H.S. in the eighties.

DaveinGermany 23-10-2010 10:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 854334)
Great minds think alike Dave;)

You could see it like that Jay but I prefer to see it as the cerebral version of "take yer' jacket off Lar & let's go talk outside !" :D Only without the bloodshed, snot & tears.

Well lets be honest, that's what he's after isn't it ? to start a virtual brawl ! :rolleyes:

garinda 23-10-2010 10:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 854341)
Well lets be honest, that's what he's after isn't it ? to start a virtual brawl ! :rolleyes:

Perhaps he's needy, and is planning to sue for compensation, afterwards.

:D

jaysay 23-10-2010 10:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854340)
I last had the same operation I've just had, in 1985.

The care then was just as good, if not better than now.

I witnessed a lot less waste in the N.H.S. in the eighties.

The last few times I've been in hospital I've played that age old game spot the clip board :rolleyes: saw 27 one day. was reading somewhere that there is a ratio of 98 to 100 staffing within the NHS, for every front line clinician there are 98 pen pushers and the like

jaysay 23-10-2010 10:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854350)
Perhaps he's needy, and is planning to sue for compensation, afterwards.

:D

Your so sharp mind yourself the next time you go in the knife drawer:D

garinda 23-10-2010 10:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 854353)
Your so sharp mind yourself the next time you go in the knife drawer:D

Knork

That's all I'm allowed, as part of my bail conditions.

:D

Ken Moss 24-10-2010 10:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854335)
Just because money's thrown at something, doesn't necessarily make it better.

The very philosophy I employ in my political musings.

The NHS is becoming like every other public service, massively top-heavy with the first cuts always being on the front line in a display of bizarre backward-thinking.

Having said that, I've more than had my money's worth out of it and never had what I consider to be an unacceptable wait for any emergency but what good are thousands of managers without enough people to do the actual proper work?

jaysay 24-10-2010 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 854666)
The very philosophy I employ in my political musings.

The NHS is becoming like every other public service, massively top-heavy with the first cuts always being on the front line in a display of bizarre backward-thinking.

Having said that, I've more than had my money's worth out of it and never had what I consider to be an unacceptable wait for any emergency but what good are thousands of managers without enough people to do the actual proper work?

Oh come on Ken somebody has to go to all these meetings and look important, how else would they justify those huge salaries;)

Barrie Yates 31-10-2010 17:23

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Back to the start of the thread Jay - Littlepom turned up in plenty of time for her appointment with the orthoaedic specialist on Friday at 1530.
Surprise, she was told that the appointment had been cqncelled the previous day at 0800 hrs - no-one had informed her. The hospital said it should have been Peel House - when we went there we were told that the hospital should have told her.
Asked to see the Practice Manager - she was off sick (Surprise, surprise), so we had to deal with the senior clinician(?). Alternative arrangements cannot be organised until tomorrow, Monday, two weeks since she originally saw the GP and arranged the specialist appointment.
We are not holding our breath.

jaysay 31-10-2010 17:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 857210)
Back to the start of the thread Jay - Littleton turned up in plenty of time for her appointment with the orthopaedic specialist on Friday at 1530.
Surprise, she was told that the appointment had been cancelled the previous day at 0800 hrs - no-one had informed her. The hospital said it should have been Peel House - when we went there we were told that the hospital should have told her.
Asked to see the Practice Manager - she was off sick (Surprise, surprise), so we had to deal with the senior clinician(?). Alternative arrangements cannot be organised until tomorrow, Monday, two weeks since she originally saw the GP and arranged the specialist appointment.
We are not holding our breath.

Seems a total cock up to me Barrie, the left hand don't know what the right hands doing. Fortunately I don't make appointments though my GP (mainly because I've been under hospital care for so long) I deal direct with the hospital and ca honestly say I haven't had any trouble what-so-ever

cashman 02-11-2010 18:36

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Yesterday morning, me daughter trailed to Pendlebury Childrens hospital had n appointment wi consultant who performed grandchilds operation, to be told, sorry on holiday, theres no-one can see you, hospitals are quick on advertising "Missed Appointments" never see advertising of appointments THEY miss cos of cock ups. Ridiculous.!:mad:

accyman 02-11-2010 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 857895)
Yesterday morning, me daughter trailed to Pendlebury Childrens hospital had n appointment wi consultant who performed grandchilds operation, to be told, sorry on holiday, theres no-one can see you, hospitals are quick on advertising "Missed Appointments" never see advertising of appointments THEY miss cos of cock ups. Ridiculous.!:mad:

they do like to harp on about missed appointments dont they but if so many people are missing appointments why are people still having up to 2 hour delays?Just imagine how long you would be waiting if everyone turned up :eek:

cashman 02-11-2010 18:58

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Delays probably cos they dont start on time, was up accy vic fer x-ray this morning, the old lass wi a 9-00 appointment went in at 9-15, my time, so yer starting off behind n it must increase as day goes on.:(

accyman 02-11-2010 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 857936)
Delays probably cos they dont start on time, was up accy vic fer x-ray this morning, the old lass wi a 9-00 appointment went in at 9-15, my time, so yer starting off behind n it must increase as day goes on.:(

it does cashy, i have checkups every 6 months and at the end of each one i make the next appointment and i always ask for the first appointment of the day which is usualy 11am and if it isnt available i ask for the following day until it is available because everytime i got a 4pm appointment i would be still waiting to be seen at 5.30 because each appointment through the day over runs a bit and by the time it gets to afternoon delays are ridiculous.You know your in for a bad day when the person going in on your 5pm appointment was supposed to have been seen at 3pm so god knows how bad its going to get when the cuts are made

MargaretR 02-11-2010 19:19

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The reception staff at the Acorn Centre ballsed up my appointment for chiropody and got me to be there ...... one week early.:rolleyes:

just glad that I hadn't gone to the expense of a taxi

Neil 02-11-2010 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 857974)
The reception staff at the Acorn Centre ballsed up my appointment for chiropody and got me to be there ...... one week early.:rolleyes:

just glad that I hadn't gone to the expense of a taxi

Have you seen this thread?

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...way-55530.html

garinda 03-11-2010 08:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 857895)
Yesterday morning, me daughter trailed to Pendlebury Childrens hospital had n appointment wi consultant who performed grandchilds operation, to be told, sorry on holiday, theres no-one can see you, hospitals are quick on advertising "Missed Appointments" never see advertising of appointments THEY miss cos of cock ups. Ridiculous.!:mad:

I agree.

There are many cancelled patient appointments, but those figures are never flashed up on the notice boards, in waiting rooms.

Though I do also agree, if you can't make an appointment, you should cancel it.

There was a programme on Channel 4, about the Mayday hospital in Croydon. A specialist doctor held a surgery for the growing number of teens who were diabetic. Not one person turned up for their appointment, each clinic having cost thousands of pounds to set up.

jaysay 03-11-2010 09:15

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I must be the lucky one, I've been attending hospital on a regular basis since 1980 and have never had any problems what-so-ever, I have had appointments cancelled but a few weeks prior to the date and a new date issued, I always receive a reminder even by letter or phone, (if you give your mobile number they'll even text you) but on the whole I've no complaints on this issue at all


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