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jaysay 25-10-2010 10:42

Its time to draw the line
 
BBC News - Romanian children found working in Worcestershire field

People using kids in this way are despicable, they should be made an example of

Wynonie Harris 25-10-2010 10:45

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Yet another side effect of the EU nightmare we find ourselves in. Time for the government to call a referendum on the whole question of membership.

gynn 25-10-2010 14:19

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 855069)
Yet another side effect of the EU nightmare we find ourselves in. Time for the government to call a referendum on the whole question of membership.

Some of the workers were Indian.

So does that mean we should withdraw from the Commonwealth as well?

Same logic.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

flashy 25-10-2010 14:25

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just terrible...please don't let Reece read this thread mods, he'll be suing me for child slavery

lancsdave 25-10-2010 14:27

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 855068)
BBC News - Romanian children found working in Worcestershire field

People using kids in this way are despicable, they should be made an example of


I agree, what happened to the good old days when they were sent up chimneys or down mines. All that fresh air can't be good for them :)

Wynonie Harris 25-10-2010 14:32

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 855096)
Some of the workers were Indian.

So does that mean we should withdraw from the Commonwealth as well?

Same logic.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hardly. If these workers you talk about were Indian nationals, they will be subject to some form of immigration control, no matter how lax it may be.

Romanians have complete freedom of movement in every country of the EU and thus can arrive or leave this country without let or hinderance.

cashman 25-10-2010 15:33

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 855069)
Yet another side effect of the EU nightmare we find ourselves in. Time for the government to call a referendum on the whole question of membership.

Why go to the expense of a referendum? the Frogs are in the E.U. n they don't give a toss, heard the Dutch are heading the same as them.

Wynonie Harris 25-10-2010 16:33

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 855103)
Why go to the expense of a referendum?

A drop in the ocean compared to the billions we hand over to an institution whose own auditors have refused to sign off its accounts for...is it 14 years running now? In fact, despite the massive cuts we're all faced with, our contribution to the EU is set to rise by almost 60% next year.

cashman 25-10-2010 17:57

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 855108)
A drop in the ocean compared to the billions we hand over to an institution whose own auditors have refused to sign off its accounts for...is it 14 years running now? In fact, despite the massive cuts we're all faced with, our contribution to the EU is set to rise by almost 60% next year.

Agree a drop in the ocean by comparison, but that is not the point, point being other countries in the E.C. DO NOT kiss ass to the extent we do, n that costs sod all.;)

Gordon Booth 25-10-2010 18:05

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I remember reading that the top man at Fiat, who apparently had a lot of influence in the Italian Government, said something like 'I don't know why you British get so upset about EU rules! In Italy we introduce the ones we like and ignore the rest.It is easy'.The rest of Europe seem to do the same. But WE employ lots of people to enforce the curve on bananas, the length of a cucumber etc. Why?

cashman 25-10-2010 18:07

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 855144)
I remember reading that the top man at Fiat, who apparently had a lot of influence in the Italian Government, said something like 'I don't know why you British get so upset about EU rules! In Italy we introduce the ones we like and ignore the rest.It is easy'.The rest of Europe seem to do the same. But WE employ lots of people to enforce the curve on bananas, the length of a cucumber etc. Why?

Thats exactly the sorta thing i'm referring too Gordon, i never been in a bar in spain yet i couldn't have a fag in.:rolleyes:

walkinman221 25-10-2010 18:08

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 855132)
Agree a drop in the ocean by comparison, but that is not the point, point being other countries in the E.C. DO NOT kiss ass to the extent we do, n that costs sod all.;)

Well said it seems we pander to the eu's whims and policies where as other countries ie frogs etc take what suits and if it doesnt they tell the eu to shove it,

cashman 25-10-2010 18:10

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 855146)
Well said it seems we pander to the eu's whims and policies where as other countries ie frogs etc take what suits and if it doesnt they tell the eu to shove it,

Thing is mate, many blame the E.U. fer things, n in many instances its US to blame, but the E.U.s a soft target.

jaysay 25-10-2010 18:11

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 855146)
Well said it seems we pander to the eu's whims and policies where as other countries ie frogs etc take what suits and if it doesnt they tell the eu to shove it,

But that wouldn't be British would it:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 25-10-2010 18:15

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Exactly the point I've been making, Germany are the same, it's a sad reflection on the UK Government that they won't stand for her people, disgusting & spineless.

walkinman221 25-10-2010 18:15

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I think the blame is ours in a lot of situations because we dont look after our own interests strongly enough not just on the european scene but also in world affairs,we worry to much about losing for want of a better phrase"face" when we should be saying if you dont like it tough!

walkinman221 25-10-2010 18:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 855149)
But that wouldn't be British would it:rolleyes:

Maybe its about time we became less british and grew some B**** for a change.

yerself 25-10-2010 18:17

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Originally Posted by cashman
Thing is mate, many blame the E.U. fer things, n in many instances its US to blame, but the E.U.s a soft target.

Spot on. Take retirement age for instance.

DaveinGermany 25-10-2010 18:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 855149)
But that wouldn't be British would it:rolleyes:

No, but then again Britain isn't British anymore ! Who owns our companies ? Who has the loudest voice in the populace ? :(

Wynonie Harris 25-10-2010 18:56

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There's only one British politician who had the bottle to stand up to the EU and I'm no great admirer of hers (although I know Cashy holds her in specially high regard ;) ) and that's Margaret Thatcher. She won our rebate by the simple expedient of threatening to withold our contribution - no other British politician has had the resolve to do that. Of course, the grovelling, supine Blair gave a large part of it away later.

Unfortunately, our political class don't have the guts to take the laissez faire attitude that other nations do, so we're better off out.

DaveinGermany 25-10-2010 19:18

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Wynn makes a valid point, no matter your leanings you have to give Maggie that, she stood for Britain in that respect. Since then we've only had mediocre Politicians who weren't & aren't prepared to stand up for UK & make waves about the increasing way our lives are governed from outside our shores.

Miaowzinzara 25-10-2010 19:28

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 855145)
Thats exactly the sorta thing i'm referring too Gordon, i never been in a bar in spain yet i couldn't have a fag in.:rolleyes:

I think your smoking days in spanish bars are all but over hun....

SMOKING BAN in 2010 FOR SPAIN CONFIRMED
NO SMOLKING IN BARS , CLUBS , HOTELS And RESTAURANTS . The Health Minister has confirmed that Spain is to introduce an extended smoking ban next year , when, from an as yet to be confirmed date.

Mancie 25-10-2010 19:30

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 855069)
Yet another side effect of the EU nightmare we find ourselves in. Time for the government to call a referendum on the whole question of membership.

That might not go down to well with the Tory voting farmers who employed these children to pick thier crops... the same farmers who recieve massive handouts from the EU. ;)

DaveinGermany 25-10-2010 19:41

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But back to the article, it has only caused such a furore as it has happened here in the UK, they would no doubt have done the same or similar in their own Country but for a lot less. So why the outcry ? Who is bringing this to the attention of the wider public & for what purpose ?

Those really are the questions that answers need to be sought for, the who & why !

entwisi 25-10-2010 20:07

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At 7 I worked in a market garden type place weeding, planting seedlings carrying water cans...

at 10 I was picking spuds at the farm they owned

at 12 I did a 340 paper Citizen paper round on a thursday night

at 16 I worked at a petrol station filling cars....


Child labour aint new, we are just more prissy about it......

Wynonie Harris 25-10-2010 20:09

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Originally Posted by Miaowzinzara (Post 855211)
I think your smoking days in spanish bars are all but over hun....

SMOKING BAN in 2010 FOR SPAIN CONFIRMED
NO SMOLKING IN BARS , CLUBS , HOTELS And RESTAURANTS . The Health Minister has confirmed that Spain is to introduce an extended smoking ban next year , when, from an as yet to be confirmed date.

Smoking ban is one thing I wouldn't blame the EU for, because it's nothing to do with EU law. It was introduced here by the British government, so it's irrelevant to this argument. Will be very interested to see how closely the Spanish enforce it though. My guess is not very thoroughly! ;)

Mancie 25-10-2010 20:20

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We should go back to Victorian values I say.. nowt wrong with kids doing a bit of hard work... this young chap seems happy enough! :rolleyes:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...78_468x618.jpg

cashman 25-10-2010 21:03

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Originally Posted by Miaowzinzara (Post 855211)
I think your smoking days in spanish bars are all but over hun....

SMOKING BAN in 2010 FOR SPAIN CONFIRMED
NO SMOLKING IN BARS , CLUBS , HOTELS And RESTAURANTS . The Health Minister has confirmed that Spain is to introduce an extended smoking ban next year , when, from an as yet to be confirmed date.

I would doubt that very much, probably a case of making the right noises.

jaysay 26-10-2010 09:55

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 855233)
We should go back to Victorian values I say.. nowt wrong with kids doing a bit of hard work... this young chap seems happy enough! :rolleyes:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...78_468x618.jpg

Bloody hell Mancie of course I recognise you now, been trying to put a face to your name for years:D


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