Flogging A Dead Horse
 

Campaigner in street protest against Hyndburn council (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Is this guy flogging a dead horse, or does he have information that the independent inquiries weren't given?

Time to put up or shut up.

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“The council has been cleared of wrong-doing by the police, local government ombudsman and the audit committee.''

I'd suggest it was time to move on.

An error was made, but the three enquiries found it to be genuine mistake, and not a criminal act.

As for people 'clapping, and cheering', some townsfolk would do that if Ronald McDonald drove round Accy with a trailer.

:D

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Well they say every village has an idiot gynn

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Time to shut up and stop making a fool of himself .

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You know what they say JCB theres no fool like an old fool, thank god I'm not old yet:D

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agree or disagree, once a matter has been investigated, yeh accept the result like or not n move on, unless yer stupid imho.

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This guy is stupid cashy

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freedom of speach unless its libelious;)

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Or boring the pants of everybody:rolleyes:

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I have made a complaint against my council and these people are basically biased against members of the public complaining. Police and Councils tend to stick together - so I say this bloke has got the guts to get off his backside and demonstrate - while most people shirk from it! He is a courageous person - even if he's wrong: too many people take **** from the Council's and roll over without any argument! Hats off to this man!:mosher:

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YouTube - The Ballad of the LGO

With compliments - Kestrel X.

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Well if your still protesting when its been proved your wrong, its not courageous, its total bloody stupidity, and a pain in the ass:(

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it's not about them proving it wrong Jaysay - these people are experts at ignoring evidence, twisting facts and whitewashing what really went on. :jimbo: Whistleblower ... :jimbo::jimbo::jimbo:

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Do you know this guy and his real reasons;)

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I don't know the full in's and out's of the story - do you have details? ;)

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Lets play the "read the newspaper story and spot how many mistakes are in it" game :D

I saw a couple after just a quick read


What I can't understand is if he is the former Friends of Oak Hill boss ( I think they mean Chair ;) ) then why is he not happy the Coach House ( I think they mean band stand ) was rebuilt?

What is it he is complaining about?
Looks like another lazy reporter with half a story :(

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Which newspaper article? I recall the band-stand as it was years ago - a covered stage with electricity supply. So the issue is it burnt down and was replaced with what? Another stage or a coach house? Is there a difference. This demonstrator believes there was a insurance fiddle that was not addressed, I think this is correct. When exactly did it burn down?

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Does it really matter when it was burnt down?:confused: it was n was rebuilt simple as.

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Yes it matters as I am wondering how long the grevience has been going for! Was it rebuilt the same?;)

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According to the article, since 2004 ! (look & you shall find :))

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I had problem with the council in 2005 and I still don't think I've had justice! So this is why I am backing this chap who is demonstating. :alright::alright::alright: I know what these councils are like first hand.

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How come ? I'm pretty sure that after 5 years you'd know if you had or you hadn't ! :confused:

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I said I'd not had justice, Councils are a bunch of self serving back scratchers, they can get away with lying - it's a fact Council staff are very rarely held to account for their wrong-doings - the system is set up to protect them.

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You feel you have been badly done to, that is obvious from your posts.
The other guy feels badly done to, that is obvious from his protest.

At the end of the day why don't you get together with him over a pint?
Then you can both slag the Council off and the therapy will make you both feel better, but it won't alter a thing, or you can let go, realise the horse really is dead, no matter what, unless one of you gets a lottery win will you be able to change anything.
Remain bitter about your grievance, (possibly ruining your life), or move on, the latter will give you better peace of mind.
:o

(O.K. Claire Rayner is dead, someone must be able to fill the slot, why not me?)
:)

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a good reason is Claire never had whiskers.:D

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I don't eat cat food either!
:D

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I know it may seem piffling ! But which one is it exactly ? One can be seen as you've had a resolution but don't agree with it, whereas the other means you've had no resolution at all, it can only be one or the other surely ?

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There two different buildings Neil. What they have in common is that they both burnt down.

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It is all very strange .. ok, a mistake happened ... wow ! that was a huge mistake, and hope employee brought to task for this.

Kestrel: The bandstand burnt down and has been replaced by this:

Attachment 17010


The Coach House had fire damage in 2004 and insurance claim questioned at the time, even by Graham Jones !! See further comment on this article too:

Police: no fraud in Hyndburn Council insurance claim (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I don't really believe there has been an attempt at fraud, but Mr. Hindley obviously does. Who knows.

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Both burnt down that's interesting - was the allegation they were burnt down so the council could claim on the insurance? :confused: Notice I say "Alleged!" What was the cause of the fires?

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http://ehs.sc.edu/modules/fire/triangle.gif

:D

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That just about explains it.
:)

But the bit is between the teeth now for some, don't expect the thread to suddenly dry up.
:D

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Hyndburn council now being accused of arson it gets better all this for the insurance money come on!:rolleyes:

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What next elevate east lancs is really an urban cleansing operation?
But then again......:D

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Is it really?

:)

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What do you think?:)

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Well, it must be true, I read it on accyweb!
:D

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No, Kestrel, that is certainly not the allegation .. LOL. Just the insurance claim.

Think the bandstand was arson: don't know re the Coach House.

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Fair enough sounds a good reason to believe it to me.:mosher:

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I was trying to clear up the confusion of the two different buildings. The band stand and the coach house. Both over the years had been effected by vandalism and fire damage.

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the cause of the fires was probably chavs/ glue sniffers/ or some of that ilk, but that would never suit yer cause kestrel.:D

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Why:eek:

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I don't have a cause Cashman, only the truth! Wasn't the house at Oakhill Park for sale for a pittance back in the 80's except it had 100,000 pounds worth of work to do on it! :confused:

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In the 80s, hell we've all slept since then;)

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Well that doesn't appear to be the case to the casual observer, firstly you come on chuntering about councils & police sticking together & conspiring against the public at large, then you're off on one about :-

"I said I'd not had Justice" followed by "Both burnt down that's interesting" adding to the flames of your outrage & ending with you telling Cashy "I don't have a cause" thereby making you a rebel without a cause ! :confused:

So what is it you're really after ? The above certainly doesn't give the impression of someone merely passing comment, are you perchance one Mr.Tony Hindley ? Maybe an associate or family member of his ?

If that's the case you are, as the thread title states "flogging a dead horse" because the folk on here can't help you my friend, you'll have to take it up with the corridors of power of the local council whom you so obviously despise !

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Rebel Without a Case, more like.

The matter has been thoroughly investigated by police, auditors, ombudsmen et al. Far from there being any conspiracy between these groups, you can be sure that if anything untoward had been found, it would have been broadcast from the roof tops, because the investigative bodies have to justify their existence!

And yes, the house in Oakhill Park WAS up for sale for a nominal figure of a pound several years ago. That was the only way of attracting someone to come in and repair it, and it was all done completely above board and in the open.

The dead horse is well and truly flogged. Let sleeping dogs lie!

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Jaysay's into sadism, necrophilia and bestiality. Is he flogging a dead horse?
(Th'owd 'uns are t'best.)

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I hope you've got a good solicitor:D

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Anybody heard if the French Ambassador is up in arms yet? I would have thought by now he would have been ranting and raving about missing out on the prime cuts for his next banquet.

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Now that is flogging a dead horse Spugs:D

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How come the French Government put up the age of eligability by 2 years from 60 to 62 for a pension: and the French people demonstrated! In this country they plan to put it up by more years and then some and the British people don't do anything! Why is this?

One guy demonstrates and people think he should shut up! Something wrong somewhere??????????? :rolleyes:

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its called apathy;)