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Ken Moss 10-11-2010 07:08
The Beacon
 
I personally don't agree with it as it doesn't tell the public anything they don't already know from the popular press and from glancing through it you wouldn't think that the Labour and Independent councillors do anything at all in the borough.

Still, it's your tax money and I think you deserve to know that the production costs for the Autumn 2010 edition of the Beacon were £2,018. Hyndburn Borough Council's own staff distributed them and these costs were £500 making a grand total of £2,518.

Nice that they got it out to the public in time for the Baxenden bye-election though.

garinda 10-11-2010 07:15
Re: The Beacon
 
I did post, after retrieving it from the recycling sack, that it wasn't as bad as I'd thought it'd be, and was better than the similar paper from L.C.C.

Is it worth those cost, to me?

No.

There are cheaper ways useful information can be obtained, and all the feel good articles, telling us how good our council is, will be picked up by the real press. If indeed such 'stories' are deemed newsworthy.

Mick 10-11-2010 07:19
Re: The Beacon
 
Sorry Ken never seen a copy:mad:

Ken Moss 10-11-2010 07:28
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860268)
Sorry Ken never seen a copy:mad:
Obviously not got a key election looming in your neck of the woods....

Baxenden got theirs first I believe, Rishton's only remaining Tory councillor is up in the local elections next year. There'll be a lot of perceived electioneering going on in the next six months I expect.

I went to see Cllr Britcliffe last week to lobby for some money for a new heating system for the Rishton Scouts and was told that there was no money in the borough for that sort of thing and they'd have to apply for a grant, with helpful hints as to where I might suggest to the Scout Leader. Lo and behold, five days later Cllr Horne had managed to secure the money from the Leader of the Council.

The Scouts have their money and will be warm for winter which is all that really matters but it gives you an insight into how impossible things are if you're wearing the wrong coloured badge.

The needs of the residents are secondary to a photo in the paper.

Neil 10-11-2010 07:37
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860263)
Still, it's your tax money and I think you deserve to know that the production costs for the Autumn 2010 edition of the Beacon were £2,018. Hyndburn Borough Council's own staff distributed them and these costs were £500 making a grand total of £2,518.
£500 sounds cheap for delivery. How did they come up with that figure please? Does it include staff time?


Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860266)
There are cheaper ways useful information can be obtained
£2,518 to supply 30,000 or more houses with a copy is not expensive. Its just over 8p per house. How else could they supply the information for less money?

Neil 10-11-2010 07:38
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860270)
Obviously not got a key election looming in your neck of the woods....

Baxenden got theirs first I believe, Rishton's only remaining Tory councillor is up in the local elections next year. There'll be a lot of perceived electioneering going on in the next six months I expect.

I went to see Cllr Britcliffe last week to lobby for some money for a new heating system for the Rishton Scouts and was told that there was no money in the borough for that sort of thing and they'd have to apply for a grant, with helpful hints as to where I might suggest to the Scout Leader. Lo and behold, five days later Cllr Horne had managed to secure the money from the Leader of the Council.

The Scouts have their money and will be warm for winter which is all that really matters but it gives you an insight into how impossible things are if you're wearing the wrong coloured badge.

The needs of the residents are secondary to a photo in the paper.
Sounds like the political games played by all politicians. Lets see how Labour do it differently the next time they are in control.

Mick 10-11-2010 07:42
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860275)

£2,518 to supply 30,000 or more houses with a copy is not expensive. Its just over 8p per house. How else could they supply the information for less money?
Er post it on Accyweb:D

Ken Moss 10-11-2010 07:45
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860275)
£500 sounds cheap for delivery. How did they come up with that figure please? Does it include staff time?

£2,518 to supply 30,000 or more houses with a copy is not expensive. Its just over 8p per house. How else could they supply the information for less money?
I'm not privy to the exact details although I saw someone with a bag delivering them in Rishton so I assume it was a mail drop.

Although it isn't expensive per household it was a very biased publication and I suspect went straight in the recycling bag of the majority of residents.

£2,518 would have been better spent in Rishton (as an example) on planting up the rose bed with new plants after Parks and Open Spaces have had their money cut, with the remainder going on some kissing gates to stop horse riders churning up the park.

To my mind, any actual physical improvements to wards are better use of money than self-aggrandising literature of any kind and you will find my attitude remains much the same when there is a shift in control.

garinda 10-11-2010 07:50
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860275)
£2,518 to supply 30,000 or more houses with a copy is not expensive. Its just over 8p per house. How else could they supply the information for less money?
Well seeing as not everyone in the borough will want or need any useful information, those that do could find that information on the council's website, on other literature that's sent to residents, such as council tax bills, and that's besides people having access to council buildings such as libraries etc, or even the phone book.

Thus the cost would be zero, because those costs are already covered. Not an extra £2,518.00.

garinda 10-11-2010 07:52
Re: The Beacon
 
Oh, and those lovely calendars, that some of us are lucky enough to receive.

They have useful information on them, as well as the pretty pictures.

garinda 10-11-2010 07:59
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860275)
£2,518 to supply 30,000 or more houses with a copy is not expensive. Its just over 8p per house. How else could they supply the information for less money?
As has already been posted.

A vast number of people put anything that's posted unsolicited through their letterbox, straight into the recycling sack.

I did.

I only retrieved it so I felt more able to comment on it.

gynn 10-11-2010 08:00
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860270)
it gives you an insight into how impossible things are if you're wearing the wrong coloured badge.

The needs of the residents are secondary to a photo in the paper.
As a Rishton Councillor, you will be on the committee of the Rishton Charities. They are completely non political, and are a valuable source of money for needy causes in the town. I remember the late Peter Monk running them with a rod of iron!

garinda 10-11-2010 08:05
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860279)
To my mind, any actual physical improvements to wards are better use of money than self-aggrandising literature of any kind and you will find my attitude remains much the same when there is a shift in control.
In all honesty, it did read like a vanity publication.

'Aren't we good'.

Nothing wrong with that, if it didn't cost us anything, and the money couldn't be better spent in a thousand different ways in Hyndburn.

Again, as posted earlier, any real stories, regarding the good work the council does, would make it into the local newspapers, if they are of any real news interest.

Neil 10-11-2010 08:47
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860280)
Well seeing as not everyone in the borough will want or need any useful information, those that do could find that information on the council's website, on other literature that's sent to residents, such as council tax bills, and that's besides people having access to council buildings such as libraries etc, or even the phone book.

Thus the cost would be zero, because those costs are already covered. Not an extra £2,518.00.
No it would not be zero because both of those methods cost money. Postage would be high for the council tax bills with that much extra paper in it.

jaysay 10-11-2010 08:49
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860263)
I personally don't agree with it as it doesn't tell the public anything they don't already know from the popular press and from glancing through it you wouldn't think that the Labour and Independent councillors do anything at all in the borough.

Still, it's your tax money and I think you deserve to know that the production costs for the Autumn 2010 edition of the Beacon were £2,018. Hyndburn Borough Council's own staff distributed them and these costs were £500 making a grand total of £2,518.

Nice that they got it out to the public in time for the Baxenden bye-election though.
So we can take it that it will be scrapped if Labour get into power then Ken, bet you a penny stick of spanish it ain't:D

Neil 10-11-2010 08:50
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860279)
Although it isn't expensive per household it was a very biased publication and I suspect went straight in the recycling bag of the majority of residents.

£2,518 would have been better spent in Rishton (as an example) on planting up the rose bed with new plants after Parks and Open Spaces have had their money cut, with the remainder going on some kissing gates to stop horse riders churning up the park.

To my mind, any actual physical improvements to wards are better use of money than self-aggrandising literature of any kind and you will find my attitude remains much the same when there is a shift in control.
Stop moaning on about how it could have been better spent in Rishton, you are starting to sound like a stuck record.

If the Council did not tell people what was going on they would get people complaining about that. When they do people complain it costs money to inform you about things. They cant win.

The bigger issue here is the suggested bias of the information not the cost of it.

Neil 10-11-2010 08:52
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860277)
Er post it on Accyweb:D
I am glad you put the smiley on or people might have thought you were being serious.

Accyweb touches a small percentage of the people in Hyndburn so would be a poor replacement for the paper copy through the letterbox. Even the Councils own website would not be read by as many people that will actually read the Beacon.

garinda 10-11-2010 08:57
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860298)
Accyweb touches a small percentage of the people in Hyndburn
Going by the number of people I know, who were lucky enough to receive a copy, and straight away binned it, so might The Beacon.

garinda 10-11-2010 08:59
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860298)
Even the Councils own website would not be read by as many people that will actually read the Beacon.
'Will actually read'?

Any statistics to better illustrate how many will read it?

:rolleyes:

Neil 10-11-2010 09:04
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860304)
'Will actually read'?

Any statistics to better illustrate how many will read it?

:rolleyes:
No none at all but not every household has a PC, access to the internet or knows how to use the web.

garinda 10-11-2010 09:09
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860308)
No none at all but not every household has a PC, access to the internet or knows how to use the web.
No they don't.

That's why I gave other examples of how useful information could be pased on to residents, such as on council tax bills, whose cost is already accounted for, and which go to every household in the borough. That's besides telephone books, libraries, town halls, etc., etc.

Oh, and the calendars we get.

;)

Mick 10-11-2010 09:09
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860268)
Sorry Ken never seen a copy:mad:
I must apologise for this post a copy of the Beacon has just this second come through the letter box
thanks for dropping it off Ken :D

garinda 10-11-2010 09:10
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860308)
No none at all but not every household has a PC, access to the internet or knows how to use the web.

Did you get, and read one?

How much new information did you gleam from it?

We could compare notes.

jaysay 10-11-2010 09:11
Re: The Beacon
 
We have to remember that this kind of thing was started by Labour at country council and yes it was, like the Beacon, a back slapping publication, never any mention of the Labour or Lib/dem county councillors and this has been coming though our letterboxes, delivered by the Royal Mail for a very long time, think its called the Vision, can't ever remember it being brought up on here though, mind you Ken Moss hasn't been on here long and would have said a word if it was published my Labour;)

jaysay 10-11-2010 09:13
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860313)
Did you get, and read one?

How much new information did you gleam from it?

We could compare notes.
For what its worth G. I have always thought these things were a complete was of money and I won't be changing my mind anytime soon;)

garinda 10-11-2010 09:19
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860315)
For what its worth G. I have always thought these things were a complete was of money and I won't be changing my mind anytime soon;)
After it was mentioned, as I said, I got it out of the recycling sack, and read it.

It was better than L.C.C.'s Vision, in my opinion.

It did read like a vanity publication.

Something that no one else thinks is worth publishing, so the author pays to have it printed privately.

I won't read it again.

Anything that comes through the door, that doesn't have my name on it, and therefore that it's being sent to me personally, goes straight into the white sack.

garinda 10-11-2010 09:28
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860275)
Its just over 8p per house.
Perhaps it might be an idea, before shoving it through our letterboxes, if they knocked, and asked us if we wanted to read it.

Those 8p's would perhaps soon mount up.

After all, look after the pennies, and the pounds look after themselves.

We'd perhaps have more money to throw at the more needy, underfunded areas of concern in Hyndburn.

Community arts, for example.

:D

jaysay 10-11-2010 09:30
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860318)
After it was mentioned, as I said, I got it out of the recycling sack, and read it.

It was better than L.C.C.'s Vision, in my opinion.

It did read like a vanity publication.

Something that no one else thinks is worth publishing, so the author pays to have it printed privately.

I won't read it again.

Anything that comes through the door, that doesn't have my name on it, and therefore that it's being sent to me personally, goes straight into the white sack.
I tend to do that myself, especially around April each year;)

garinda 10-11-2010 09:34
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860323)
I tend to do that myself, especially around April each year;)
Yes, I remember.

You didn't know much about Karen Buckley.

(She was the Conservative candidate for Hyndburn, in the last General Election, by the way.)

:D

garinda 10-11-2010 09:37
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860268)
Sorry Ken never seen a copy:mad:
How many people did receive a copy?

Show of hands please.

Those no shows will have to be factored into the individual 8p cost, of those of us who did.

MargaretR 10-11-2010 09:48
Re: The Beacon
 
I got one - straight in the white sack unread

jaysay 10-11-2010 09:56
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860326)
Yes, I remember.

You didn't know much about Karen Buckley.

(She was the Conservative candidate for Hyndburn, in the last General Election, by the way.)

:D
Thanks for that G. :confused::confused:

jaysay 10-11-2010 09:58
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860329)
How many people did receive a copy?

Show of hands please.

Those no shows will have to be factored into the individual 8p cost, of those of us who did.
I received one

garinda 10-11-2010 10:01
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860340)
Thanks for that G. :confused::confused:
Just explaining, who was who, and what was what, from what was shoved through your letterbox in April.

That you wouldn't have seen, because you binned it all.

;)

Benipete 10-11-2010 10:02
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860341)
I received one
Having never had one before I got two on the same day this time,Is there any truth in the Headline that the market is to have a Makeover?:confused::D:D

jaysay 10-11-2010 10:05
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 860346)
Having never had one before I got two on the same day this time,Is there any truth in the Headline that the market is to have a Makeover?:confused::D:D
Think its just an Ugly Rumour;)

garinda 10-11-2010 10:05
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 860346)
Having never had one before I got two on the same day this time,Is there any truth in the Headline that the market is to have a Makeover?:confused::D:D
Please mark up Beni's costs of two copies as 16p.

:D

garinda 10-11-2010 10:07
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860349)
Please mark up Beni's costs of two copies as 16p.

:D

Or should it be 8p, minus the cost of one wasted copy, resulting in 0p?

:rolleyes:

jaysay 10-11-2010 10:11
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860350)
Or should it be 8p, minus the cost of one wasted copy, resulting in 0p?

:rolleyes:
Less one delivery charge;)

Benipete 10-11-2010 10:19
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860350)
Or should it be 8p, minus the cost of one wasted copy, resulting in 0p?

:rolleyes:
There was no waste involved.My latest collection of Origami will soon be on display hanging on a nail at the back of the outside lavvy door.:pain30::hehetable:hidewall::hidewall:

jaysay 10-11-2010 10:22
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 860352)
There was no waste involved.My latest collection of Origami will soon be on display hanging on a nail at the back of the outside lavvy door.:pain30::hehetable:hidewall::hidewall:
Bit cold this weather Beni:D

Less 10-11-2010 10:28
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 860352)
There was no waste involved.My latest collection of Origami will soon be on display hanging on a nail at the back of the outside lavvy door.:pain30::hehetable:hidewall::hidewall:
Arty Farty!

I bet you can get a grant for that!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CGyChCax_N...newspaper1.jpg

cashman 10-11-2010 10:28
Re: The Beacon
 
well just got one about 10 mins ago, was actually the postman who stuffed it through wi the mail.:confused: first one i ever got, how odd.

shillelagh 10-11-2010 15:38
Re: The Beacon
 
can i ask something ... seeing as i wont get one :D... i get rossendales version instead .. which i got a couple of week ago .. and laughed when i saw one of the photos .. 2 greenfield ward councillors at a school in worsley ward .. but rossendale's version arrived in a plastic covering .. with to the occupier and my address on it ... delivered by the postman .. did yours arrive the same ... only asking as we are supposed to be into recycling ... and a paper in a plastic bag. ...:rolleyes:

Ken Moss 10-11-2010 17:13
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860297)
Stop moaning on about how it could have been better spent in Rishton, you are starting to sound like a stuck record.

If the Council did not tell people what was going on they would get people complaining about that. When they do people complain it costs money to inform you about things. They cant win.

The bigger issue here is the suggested bias of the information not the cost of it.
Neil, one day you will actually read my posts.

Rishton was used as an example because I know what I would have spent it on in Rishton, it wasn't a whinge that it should have been spent in Rishton.

Ken Moss 10-11-2010 17:18
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860314)
We have to remember that this kind of thing was started by Labour at country council and yes it was, like the Beacon, a back slapping publication, never any mention of the Labour or Lib/dem county councillors and this has been coming though our letterboxes, delivered by the Royal Mail for a very long time, think its called the Vision, can't ever remember it being brought up on here though, mind you Ken Moss hasn't been on here long and would have said a word if it was published my Labour;)
You keep harping on about what I would and wouldn't do if Labour had done things, I have to tell you that 99% of the time your predictions are dead wrong.

I don't agree with In Vision either and have openly said so. If something is a waste it is a waste full stop and pinning a different political badge on it doesn't make it better.

You can stop making the assumption on my behalf that Labour is saintly and the Conservatives are pure evil, I just happen to strongly disagree with the present leader of the controlling group, not the entire conclave of its members.

Neil 10-11-2010 17:38
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860405)
Neil, one day you will actually read my posts.

I do read your posts. I have to so I can decide which bits to change so you sound like a Tory :rolleyes::D

jaysay 10-11-2010 17:43
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860407)
You keep harping on about what I would and wouldn't do if Labour had done things, I have to tell you that 99% of the time your predictions are dead wrong.

I don't agree with In Vision either and have openly said so. If something is a waste it is a waste full stop and pinning a different political badge on it doesn't make it better.

You can stop making the assumption on my behalf that Labour is saintly and the Conservatives are pure evil, I just happen to strongly disagree with the present leader of the controlling group, not the entire conclave of its members.
That's funny my predictions about Labour are usually 99% right

Less 10-11-2010 17:53
Re: The Beacon
 
So we now have a dog called Harry running loose amongst our young children, supposedly giving advice on road safety. :)


Taken from the Highway code:_

56

Dogs. Do not let a dog out on the road on its own. Keep it on a short lead when walking on the pavement, road or path shared with cyclists or horse riders.

Perhaps not the best of animals to be advising the tots?

:stop:

Just a quick edit.

I wonder how much it cost?:eek:

Neil 10-11-2010 17:58
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860411)
So we now have a dog called Harry running loose amongst our young children, supposedly giving advice on road safety. :)
Its a great idea isn't it. A bit off topic for this thread though.

Less 10-11-2010 18:03
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860416)
Its a great idea isn't it. A bit off topic for this thread though.
Not in the slightest, I scanned it from the Beacon!
:thefinger:rofl38::alright:

jaysay 10-11-2010 18:16
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860418)
Not in the slightest, I scanned it from the Beacon!
:thefinger:rofl38::alright:
Ha you see Less nobody reads it, including Neil:D

Less 10-11-2010 18:22
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860425)
Ha you see Less nobody reads it, including Neil:D
O.K. so I'm Nobody, just 'cos I have read it.

Do you think I should scan the 'Colouring Competition in for the children who's parents either haven't received the Beacon or those children who's parents stuffed it straight into the White Sack?
:)

jaysay 10-11-2010 18:23
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860429)
O.K. so I'm Nobody, just 'cos I have read it.

Do you think I should scan the 'Colouring Competition in for the children who's parents either haven't received the Beacon or those children who's parents stuffed it straight into the White Sack?
:)
Less the world is your Oyster mate:D

Ken Moss 10-11-2010 19:05
Re: The Beacon
 
Wow, negative karma! I must have really touched a nerve somewhere. Thanks, whoever you are. The Leader of the Council can't shut me up, do you really think a red square will?

You clearly agree with The Beacon, I would wish you enjoyment of every word that your 8p has bought you.

Neil 10-11-2010 19:21
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 860440)
Wow, negative karma!
Never comment on karma mate, people jump on the giving/taking game then. I wonder who took it from you. I know it was not me.

Neil 10-11-2010 19:22
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860418)
Not in the slightest, I scanned it from the Beacon!
:thefinger:rofl38::alright:
I know a lot about Harry without reading about it.

Read all about him here

heth 10-11-2010 19:23
Re: The Beacon
 
I recieved one, flicked through, nothing caught my eye (apart from asking the other half if he wanted to do the colouring comp!! :D) then it went in the white sack

Ken Moss 10-11-2010 19:25
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860445)
Never comment on karma mate, people jump on the giving/taking game then. I wonder who took it from you. I know it was not me.
I'll take your word on that, also your advice.

Perhaps my own spin on the money that is being spent around Hyndburn errs on the negative side for the most part but it is what I truly believe and The Beacon, whether from a Tory or Labour council, is a waste of funds. We are here to govern, not to crow about how wonderful we are.

It's like I was saying in my other thread about synergistic spending, all these little amounts on meaningless things add up into a massive amount that could have been put to much better use.

Less 10-11-2010 19:31
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860446)
I know a lot about Harry without reading about it.
What's it like to have the confidence of friends in high places?:D

Less 10-11-2010 19:46
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860418)
not in the slightest, i scanned it from the beacon!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860446)
I know a lot about Harry without reading about it.
missed a bit neil
:D

Less 10-11-2010 19:59
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860430)
Less the world is your Oyster mate:D
Sadly Jay only parts of it, some seem to like putting me in my place.
:(

heth 10-11-2010 20:03
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860458)
Sadly Jay only parts of it, some seem to like putting me in my place.
:(

:bleedht:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Only Joking with you..........!!!!!

Neil 10-11-2010 20:14
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860449)
What's it like to have the confidence of friends in high places?:D
I read about it from the link I posted and discussed it with a group of people I would not describe as being "friends in high places"

Less 10-11-2010 20:32
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860463)
I read about it from the link I posted and discussed it with a group of people I would not describe as being "friends in high places"
Can we get back to the Beacon and stop talking about you?

garinda 11-11-2010 07:05
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860468)
Can we get back to the Beacon and stop talking about you?
What happened to Tufty the squirrel?

Did Peter the Poodle, or whatever he's called, eat him, before showing children how to cross the road?

garinda 11-11-2010 07:10
Re: The Beacon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860468)
Can we get back to the Beacon and stop talking about you?
Only when you've wiped that smile off your face.

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:D

Mick 11-11-2010 07:11
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Although the paper has only a few pages i noticed one person got his photo in 5 times:D

Ken Moss 11-11-2010 07:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860312)
I must apologise for this post a copy of the Beacon has just this second come through the letter box
thanks for dropping it off Ken :D
Just doing my public duty....

;)

Mick 11-11-2010 07:17
Re: The Beacon
 
well next time will you please close the gate after you leave:D:p

garinda 11-11-2010 07:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860525)
Although the paper has only a few pages i noticed one person got his photo in 5 times:D
That little cry baby off Britain's Got Talent?

Katie Price?

Elvis?

Roger the Rottweiler?

No, can't think who it could be.

We give up.

Who is it?

:rolleyes:

garinda 11-11-2010 07:33
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I hope H.B.C. have checked the copyright for Harry the Hound.

Harry the Hound-Aviator

Perhaps their Harry's ok, because he's from Hyndburn, and stuck that in the middle.

Though perhaps not.

Less 11-11-2010 08:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860531)
I hope H.B.C. have checked the copyright for Harry the Hound.

Harry the Hound-Aviator

Perhaps their Harry's ok, because he's from Hyndburn, and stuck that in the middle.

Though perhaps not.
Interesting link rindy gives me:-
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Mick 11-11-2010 08:29
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shows up for me less dont know why

Less 11-11-2010 08:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860541)
shows up for me less dont know why
Time to do an entwisi then.

(Curse Windows and restart Computer)!
:D

jaysay 11-11-2010 08:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860445)
Never comment on karma mate, people jump on the giving/taking game then. I wonder who took it from you. I know it was not me.
Nor me Neil no point in giving red if your no going to sign it

Neil 11-11-2010 08:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860546)
Nor me Neil no point in giving red if your no going to sign it
Yes there is, it annoys them twice :rolleyes::D:D

jaysay 11-11-2010 08:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860458)
Sadly Jay only parts of it, some seem to like putting me in my place.
:(
:eek::eek::eek::eek:Putting you in your place Less, yay reght:D

jaysay 11-11-2010 08:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860525)
Although the paper has only a few pages i noticed one person got his photo in 5 times:D
Whoever was that mick:rolleyes:

jaysay 11-11-2010 08:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860547)
Yes there is, it annoys them twice :rolleyes::D:D
Once is enough for me Neil, I'm not a vengeful person:D

Mick 11-11-2010 08:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860549)
Whoever was that mick:rolleyes:
If you don't know jaysay i suggest you look through your own copy you will soon find out who it is has a sickly look on his face as usual :D:hidewall:

Less 11-11-2010 08:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860546)
Nor me Neil no point in giving red if your no going to sign it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860547)
Yes there is, it annoys them twice :rolleyes::D:D
There are plenty of karma threads out there, this isn't one of them.
:rolleyes:

jaysay 11-11-2010 08:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860551)
If you don't know jaysay i suggest you look through your own copy you will soon find out who it is has a sickly look on his face as usual :D:hidewall:
No good mick was white sack day on Tuesday:D

jaysay 11-11-2010 08:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 860554)
There are plenty of karma threads out there, this isn't one of them.
:rolleyes:
Looks like we're getting our hands and face slapped Neil:D

Less 11-11-2010 08:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860559)
No good mick was white sack day on Tuesday:D
The Name if you were to spell it would come out Buttlick.
:D

Mick 11-11-2010 08:58
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In that case you can have mine they are not due till a week on friday for the sacks its wheelie bin day tomorrow so i can dig my copy out if you would like to pay the postage on it.:D

jaysay 11-11-2010 09:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick (Post 860564)
in that case you can have mine they are not due till a week on friday for the sacks its wheelie bin day tomorrow so i can dig my copy out if you would like to pay the postage on it.:d
Pass:D


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