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Gordon Booth 11-11-2010 15:41

Beware the Flu jab
 
I've had the flue jab for years now and never even noticed it. Apparently it now has Swine Flu vaccine in it this year. Out of four of us who had it last week three of us have been quite ill! None of us were before this year. I don't know if you could get the version without Swine Flu but I would certainly ask. After all, swine flue became a non event-I'd certainly miss it and risk it if I'd known.

Tealeaf 11-11-2010 15:59

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 860621)
I've had the flue jab for years now and never even noticed it. Apparently it now has Swine Flu vaccine in it this year. Out of four of us who had it last week three of us have been quite ill! None of us were before this year. I don't know if you could get the version without Swine Flu but I would certainly ask. After all, swine flue became a non event-I'd certainly miss it and risk it if I'd known.

Errr..sorry Gordon - you're wrong on this. It's mutated, as all strains of flu do. The new variety is currently out in the Far East and the Antipodes..but it will get here, soon.

KTAR.com - Mutation overseas doesn't affect swine flu vaccine

Gordon Booth 11-11-2010 16:10

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Oh, well, perhaps it was worth it,we were only ill for 2 or 3 days, if swine flu is still on the go that would be worse.

Less 11-11-2010 16:52

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 860627)
Oh, well, perhaps it was worth it,we were only ill for 2 or 3 days, if swine flu is still on the go that would be worse.

Try not to upset yourself, this warning in one form or another is now an annual event, you've probably only pre-empted our usual thread starter.

AND YET, our Lab mouse , (Mick, he always gets it), is still with us.
:)

Miaowzinzara 11-11-2010 17:20

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I would rather everything was included get ill for a couple of days than risk the virus itself!! I got the same as i usually get.... a sore arm for a couple of days.

jaysay 11-11-2010 18:00

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They won't get to touch me with a 10 foot needle,

Tealeaf 11-11-2010 18:23

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I've no problem with anyone refusing a free recommended flu jab when they are offered it and then refuse it; however, every year there are a large number of OAP's who, having turned down the jab, clog up NHS wards with flu and resultant problems.

It therefore makes sense for these characters to be denied access to NHS hospital treatment for severe flu when do catch it and end up bed blocking for a week or longer. To paraphrase the old saying = 'They've made their own bed, let them lie in it - and not someone elses.'

cashman 11-11-2010 18:35

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thing is i normally have it n pay fer it, this year me doctor told me i couldnt n its not much use. go figure!:confused:

jaysay 11-11-2010 18:36

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 860682)
I've no problem with anyone refusing a free recommended flu jab when they are offered it and then refuse it; however, every year there are a large number of OAP's who, having turned down the jab, clog up NHS wards with flu and resultant problems.

It therefore makes sense for these characters to be denied access to NHS hospital treatment for severe flu when do catch it and end up bed blocking for a week or longer. To paraphrase the old saying = 'They've made their own bed, let them lie in it - and not someone elses.'

Prior to 1994 I had the flue jab every year, each time I had it I was rushed into hospital on blue lights with chronic chest problems, and was in and out of hospital all winter, since then I have always refused the jab, I have only been in hospital 4 times since, none of which were flu related, the first time was July 2002 then 2008 and twice in 2009, the flu jab doesn't do for everybody Tealeaf

shillelagh 11-11-2010 18:46

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i'll agree with that jaysay .. i wont have it .. though i do get offered it .. everytime ive had the flu jab a couple of months later im laid up in bed with flu ... dont have the flu jab .. dont have flu ...

Gordon Booth 11-11-2010 18:52

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 860682)

It therefore makes sense for these characters to be denied access to NHS hospital treatment for severe flu when do catch it and end up bed blocking for a week or longer. To paraphrase the old saying = 'They've made their own bed, let them lie in it - and not someone elses.'

You're a hard man! Not lie in it, maybe die in it.

Tealeaf 11-11-2010 19:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860692)
Prior to 1994 I had the flue jab every year, each time I had it I was rushed into hospital on blue lights with chronic chest problems, and was in and out of hospital all winter, since then I have always refused the jab, I have only been in hospital 4 times since, none of which were flu related, the first time was July 2002 then 2008 and twice in 2009, the flu jab doesn't do for everybody Tealeaf

I've no problem with people suffering a reaction to the jab and needing emergency treatment; that wasn't what I was saying. Reactions to the flu jab range from none at all to severe. But the simple fact is that from December to February, the NHS faces major problems caused by OAPs taking up beds with severe flu because they said no to the free flu jab; because of this, operations are cancelled in Oncology and Cardiology and people die who would otherwise live - all because of obstinancy, ignorance and an 'I know best' attitude.

That attitude results in a cost of about 500 quid per person per day to the NHS and when you multiply that by the number of people admitted each year, it works out at hundreds of millions of pounds - far more than the cost of treatment for people such as yourself who do suffer an adverse reaction.

flashy 11-11-2010 19:15

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had mine a few weeks ago and i'm fine, i reckon people always find something to moan about nomatter what it is

garinda 11-11-2010 21:32

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860711)
had mine a few weeks ago and i'm fine, i reckon people always find something to moan about nomatter what it is

Same.

Have it every year, never had a problem.

cashman 11-11-2010 21:40

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860711)
had mine a few weeks ago and i'm fine, i reckon people always find something to moan about nomatter what it is

How come shaz, they refused me n i'm n owd fart?:confused:

flashy 11-11-2010 22:02

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cashy i only got offered it this year because i've changed my inhaler, had asthma all my life and never been offered it before, i don't know how the heck they work out who gets it and who doesn't

cashman 11-11-2010 22:13

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860785)
cashy i only got offered it this year because i've changed my inhaler, had asthma all my life and never been offered it before, i don't know how the heck they work out who gets it and who doesn't

its crazy i offered to pay fer it, as usual n they said no.:( n i know fer a fact doctors usually have some left n those have to be thrown away.;)

garinda 11-11-2010 22:54

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 860787)
its crazy i offered to pay fer it, as usual n they said no.:( n i know fer a fact doctors usually have some left n those have to be thrown away.;)

There was a massive push, with special walk-in clinics, no appointment necessary, at Rhyddings surgery.

Didn't see anyone refused, whilst I sat daily, this past five weeks.

I'd create a stink, if I was you Cashy.

:(

Less 11-11-2010 23:00

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860796)
whilst I sat daily, this past five weeks.



:(

Good Grief! You had to sit there for Five Weeks? Could you not have rung for an appointment?

cashman 11-11-2010 23:02

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860796)
There was a massive push, with special walk-in clinics, no appointment necessary, at Rhyddings surgery.

Didn't see anyone refused, whilst I sat daily, this past five weeks.

I'd create a stink, if I was you Cashy.

:(

i did last year, doctor said i could have it providing i paid,receptionist said i couldn't,afterwards, saw doc again n went mad, this was early december, went back to reception to make appointment n they told me jan 10, or 11th aint sure now, point being as well as a 5/6 week wait they knew i was away abroad then, so went accy vic n asked them to do it, they said - go to yer docs, by then i was slavering, ended up got n ex nurse to give it me, i prefer to have one, but don't need all that crap again.:(

garinda 11-11-2010 23:07

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 860798)
Good Grief! You had to sit there for Five Weeks? Could you not have rung for an appointment?

Ha ha.

I did come home, inbetween appointments.

After having my weeping gash packed, daily.

No more.

Hurrah.

I am whole again.

Hosanna!

garinda 11-11-2010 23:09

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 860799)
i did last year, doctor said i could have it providing i paid,receptionist said i couldn't,afterwards, saw doc again n went mad, this was early december, went back to reception to make appointment n they told me jan 10, or 11th aint sure now, point being as well as a 5/6 week wait they knew i was away abroad then, so went accy vic n asked them to do it, they said - go to yer docs, by then i was slavering, ended up got n ex nurse to give it me, i prefer to have one, but don't need all that crap again.:(

I remember you posting about the carry on you went through last year.

I'd change doctors. Really, I would.

garinda 11-11-2010 23:11

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 860798)
Good Grief! You had to sit there for Five Weeks?

They gve me a chair, whilst I gave people their flu jabs.

;)

cashman 11-11-2010 23:13

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860802)
I remember you posting about the carry on you went through last year.

I'd change doctors. Really, I would.

thing is me doctor,(when i get to see him which is rare) is a good un.:confused: its the actual centre thats crap.:(

flashy 12-11-2010 06:45

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Gaz, it Rhyddings surgery part of the cornerstone practice?

garinda 12-11-2010 06:54

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860820)
Gaz, it Rhyddings surgery part of the cornerstone practice?

Yup.

I've never had such a great G.P., nurses, and receptionists.

flashy 12-11-2010 06:58

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they are my doctors too(in Blackburn), they started off in a small house on Shadsworth road and now have 3 surgeries, i've been with them for over 14 years, they are good

jaysay 12-11-2010 07:04

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860785)
cashy i only got offered it this year because i've changed my inhaler, had asthma all my life and never been offered it before, i don't know how the heck they work out who gets it and who doesn't

Because Asthma is one of the disorders which CAN be affected very badly with the flu, If I didn't a reaction to it I would have it every year

garinda 12-11-2010 07:05

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860822)
they are my doctors too(in Blackburn), they started off in a small house on Shadsworth road and now have 3 surgeries, i've been with them for over 14 years, they are good

I was a little worried at first, them being a religious, but in reality that means they don't refer people seeking terminations.

They are kind, caring, and good at their job.

I've never felt in safer hands.

Did the nurses dress up in flu jab t-shirts at your surgery as well?

They certainly made a big push in promoting it.

jaysay 12-11-2010 07:05

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860801)
Ha ha.

I did come home, inbetween appointments.

After having my weeping gash packed, daily.

No more.

Hurrah.

I am whole again.

Hosanna!

Whole again are you sure:D:D

jaysay 12-11-2010 07:07

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 860804)
thing is me doctor,(when i get to see him which is rare) is a good un. its:confused: the actual centre thats crap.:(

Time for a change cashy big isn't always best

pipinfort 12-11-2010 07:26

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860785)
cashy i only got offered it this year because i've changed my inhaler, had asthma all my life and never been offered it before, i don't know how the heck they work out who gets it and who doesn't

Well i`ve always been offered it and always had it........i have`nt changed my inhaler but i have`nt been offered it this year but then again, its Peel House and its CRAP..........different building, same poor attitude:(

Neil 12-11-2010 09:32

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860764)
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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860711)
.....i reckon people always find something to moan about nomatter what it is

Same.....

I had noticed you have been moaning a lot recently, winter blues maybe or male menopause? :p:rolleyes::D

Neil 12-11-2010 09:34

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860821)
Yup.

I've never had such a great G.P., nurses, and receptionists.

Except for one receptionist who always sounds like she needs winding up a bit more.

flashy 12-11-2010 10:35

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Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 860835)
Well i`ve always been offered it and always had it........i have`nt changed my inhaler but i have`nt been offered it this year but then again, its Peel House and its CRAP..........different building, same poor attitude:(


depends what you changed it to ya plank

garinda 12-11-2010 11:30

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860851)
Except for one receptionist who always sounds like she needs winding up a bit more.

She's my favourite.

Sweet soul.

:)

garinda 12-11-2010 11:32

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860850)
I had noticed you have been moaning a lot recently, winter blues maybe or male menopause? :p:rolleyes::D

Not so I've noticed.

Unless there's more to 'moan' about, so it seems a lot.

:rolleyes::D;)

garinda 12-11-2010 11:37

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 860851)
Except for one receptionist who always sounds like she needs winding up a bit more.

Some one asked her last week how should he bring a urine sample in, how exactly should he do it, and whether he should fill a large plastic coke bottle.

There was only me in there. How she kept her face straight I'll never know.

:p

pipinfort 12-11-2010 11:48

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 860856)
depends what you changed it to ya plank

Changed what.....? i have`nt changed anything you piece of rough ,uncut timber..................................;)

flashy 12-11-2010 14:44

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Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 860866)
changed what.....? I have`nt changed anything you piece of rough ,uncut timber..................................;)



lol


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