Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860868)

He added: "We will do this again. Until the British people condemn the British Government for these illegal wars, we will not stop protesting."

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 860871)

this was all over facebook last night ... and i thought why give the prats more publicity ... as far as im concerned its a time for rememberance ... people who fought for us ... no matter what their religon, creed, colour ... and if they dont want to show respect for the dead .. then it dont say much for them

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860872)

I was unsure whether it should be posted.

I honestly thought it was propaganda, cobbled together from old film clips, until I saw the newspaper reports.

I think people should see just how vile, and evil, these people are.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 860906)

Perhaps it is time to re-introduce conscription?
A couple of years in the forces learning discipline, for everyone of the tender years 18 to 20?
Anyone that goes scurrying back to their Uncles village in Bangladesh to avoid it forfiets their British Nationality?
It would do two things, give our young unemployed something to be proud of compared with litter picking, and remove the untrustworthy from our society, let's go for it.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 860933)

As for the national service idea, I served in the Navy, we, like the other forces were proud that we were volunteers, I have always carried that idea with me, but, give the kids a chance, better to serve your country in the forces than to be conscripted to the litter service?
The people that already do that have my admiration.
But why oh why teach our children and unemployed adults, this is all you are worth when their biggest crime is to be unemployed.

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 860930)

Two points, boys & girls:

1) The Poppy burning happened. I was chatting to one of the cops earlier on today who witnessed it. Later on this afternoon, someone pointed out some graffitti in a men's trap here in central London which read 'Page from the Koran -->', with the arrow pointed towards the bog roll dispenser. There was also a date on there - 11/11/10.

2) Some of you may well recall the city riots last year when some drunken news vendor fell over after giving some gip to a policeman; he subsequently died, although that could have happened at any time.

As a result of that, the Met have been issued with new guidance as to how to deal with troublesome protestors. They can't wack 'em any more; truncheons & boots are out. The most they can now do is snatch and contain. That is why we saw all this 'do nothing' nonsense on wednesday night outside the Millbank Tower & the cops standing by in front of the poppy burning 'ceremony'.

Personally, I would have gone in there with flamethrowers and tanks, but that is only my humble opinion.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860937)

Well not flamethrowers and tanks Tealeaf, but whats wrong with water cannons

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 860918)

There's a lot on the internet about this( including all the main papers ) but NOTHING on the BBC website as far as I can see. I listen to Today in the morning and I don't think it was mentioned on there either. Is that the even, unbiased, non political reporting that the BBC claims or is it exactly what we have come to expect from OUR broadcaster?

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 860939)

Water cannons are for wimps. OK....maybe I'll settle for CS gas, rubber bullets and Rotweillers on the loose.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860941)

There were two recent cases, that of Wendy Lewis, and Philip Laing, who whilst drunk, desecrated two different war memorials.

This was headline news on all the TV and radio news programmes.

I do think there is a political agenda at play, as to why the BBC have chosen largely to ignore yesterday's outrage.

Part of the problem is that for years the liberal elite have pandered to minority groups, instead of forcing them to integrate.

Historically wave after wave of people have come to these islands, over the centuries. They still managed to keep their cultural identities, and religious beliefs, but they became part of British society.

State funding should be withdrawn NOW, from every group and organisation that differentiates it's self on religious or racial lines. It's divisive, in that it separates, rather than bringing anyone together.

As Mancie posted, everyone in this country should be free to protest.

However, British citizens should not be legally allowed to call for the deaths of our serving armed forces.

Americas' citizens, one of the most racially diverse countries on the planet, turn incandescent with furious rage if someone burns their flag, yet we sit idly by, whilst what made this country great is quickly being eroded.

The sooner our government realise this, and take into account the views of the vast majority of British people, and ignore the snivelling, idiotic, politically correct, wooly headed, do-gooders, who perpetrate division, the better.

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 860918)

There's a lot on the internet about this( including all the main papers ) but NOTHING on the BBC website as far as I can see. I listen to Today in the morning and I don't think it was mentioned on there either. Is that the even, unbiased, non political reporting that the BBC claims or is it exactly what we have come to expect from OUR broadcaster?

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 860944)

Think you've hit the nail on the head there G.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860947)

If this isn't addressed right now, what happened in Ireland will look like a Teddy bears' picnic, in comparisson to what's going to happen in this country's future..

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860947)

If this isn't addressed right now, what happened in Ireland will look like a Teddy bears' picnic, in comparisson to what's going to happen in this country's future..

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 860945)

theres still nowt on there now .. .but theres a bit about the magna carta ...

BBC News - Magna Carta 800th anniversary celebrations begin

about it celebrating in 5 years time that it will be 800 years old

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 860950)

think in fact its too late ... in fact ireland is slowly but surely kicking off again ......

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 860945)

theres still nowt on there now .. .

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 860859)

Much was made on T.V. the other day about the student demonstration in London, attacking the Tory Building, yet was no mention last night of the demonstration Burning Poppies @ insulting the memories of the fallen, :mad: anyone doubt it, look on you tube, Cameron says they will prosecute those students/ infiltrators who were caught, whats the government gonna do about these other people? my guess is sod all, cos aint as serious as insulting the tories.:rolleyes::mad:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 860955)

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BBC News - EDL founder charged with Muslim poppy protest assault

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 860956)

It sickens me to have witnessed on TV the crass, cowardly back-pedalling of the powers that be when it it is plain for all to see that this bunch of anarchic nerds are behaving in such an appallingly disrespectful manner towards our war dead. They should be swept down the nearest sewer and drowned in the filth that they espouse on an almost daily basis. Their passports and British citizenship should be withdrawn immediately and this scum, together with their rabble rousing counterparts thrown out of the country with no recourse to return.

People are justifiably sick and fed up with these increasing instances and will sooner or later take to the streets, but is the government listening? No chance!

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 860930)

As a result of that, the Met have been issued with new guidance as to how to deal with troublesome protestors. They can't wack 'em any more; truncheons & boots are out. The most they can now do is snatch and contain. That is why we saw all this 'do nothing' nonsense on wednesday night outside the Millbank Tower & the cops standing by in front of the poppy burning 'ceremony'.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 860975)

One point here T, was this cop saying they can't do the job they are paid to do n uphold the law? without truncheons n boots? if so i find that rather pathetic.n i would bet many feel the same, i'm sure the framework of the law(watered down as it is now) allows em to take "Legal" action against this scum? its up to the politicians to bring further powers in to sort em once n fer all.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 860912)

Surely what these muslim men were doing is a criminal offence......inciting and stirring up racial unrest....surely the police should have stepped in and either arrested them or cautioned them...but ah no....of course not. That would be seen as racial discrimination.
How is it that racial discrimination is a one way street in the UK?

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 861008)

I find it hard to believe the police have been told not to use force when confronted by anyone hell bent on destruction..at Millbank there was outright criminal damage carried out and the totally out numbered police could not do much about it..I can't help but wonder if this government will rethink on thier agenda to cut the police force by 20,000 :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 861042)

Perhaps the Intelligence/Planners/Senior Officers responsible for the very low number of officers deployed will be the top of the list for being cut:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 860941)

There were two recent cases, that of Wendy Lewis, and Philip Laing, who whilst drunk, desecrated two different war memorials.

This was headline news on all the TV and radio news programmes.

I do think there is a political agenda at play, as to why the BBC have chosen largely to ignore yesterday's outrage.

Part of the problem is that for years the liberal elite have pandered to minority groups, instead of forcing them to integrate.

Historically wave after wave of people have come to these islands, over the centuries. They still managed to keep their cultural identities, and religious beliefs, but they became part of British society.

State funding should be withdrawn NOW, from every group and organisation that differentiates it's self on religious or racial lines. It's divisive, in that it separates, rather than bringing anyone together.

As Mancie posted, everyone in this country should be free to protest.

However, British citizens should not be legally allowed to call for the deaths of our serving armed forces.

Americas' citizens, one of the most racially diverse countries on the planet, turn incandescent with furious rage if someone burns their flag, yet we sit idly by, whilst what made this country great is quickly being eroded.

The sooner our government realise this, and take into account the views of the vast majority of British people, and ignore the snivelling, idiotic, politically correct, wooly headed, do-gooders, who perpetrate division, the better.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 861053)

I agree with most of this .... esp. the last sentence:D But I do have a couple of points. As you are no doubt aware, even though my noisy neighbours do get peed when someone burns their flag, a citizen's right to burn, urinate on, wipe his ass on etc their flag is protected by the First Ammendment. It's offensive, but not illegal. Though I can see, in the poppy burning, elements that go beyond a dispicable action. There is definitely a subversive component.

But I do have problems with the concept of forced integration. There has to be another path, and it is not the one that your government seems to be following now.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 861060)

Not forced integration.

Stop encouraging separation, by supporting anything that's exclusive to race, or religion.

For example, stop producing every offical form being translated into umpteen different languages. This stops people from learning English.

Put the effort into promoting people to learn the language of the country they're living in, which would help them feel part of society as a whole.

The same with every organisations that are exclusively based on race/religion. Remove funding now. It doesn't achieve anything, other than being divise, and driving a greater wedge between people.

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 861034)

re. mention of BBC coverage of the event , not for nothing that many folks around the world think that BBC stands for Black Broadcasting Corporation ;)

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 861296)

Spot on. It is very noticeable that whenever BBC News bulletins centre on schools, there is rarely a white pupil to be seen.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 861052)

You are jesting Barrie its like saying the ones in ivory towers in the health service will also sack themselves, not a snowball in hells chance.

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 861296)

Spot on. It is very noticeable that whenever BBC News bulletins centre on schools, there is rarely a white pupil to be seen.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 861390)

Think it was Friday Stumped, there was a feature on BBC Breakfast about a school and there were only white kids in the class, I nearly choked on my cornflakes, it must have been a first;)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 861390)

Think it was Friday Stumped, there was a feature on BBC Breakfast about a school and there were only white kids in the class, I nearly choked on my cornflakes, it must have been a first;)

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 861701)

And probably a last!

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 864562)

Just thought I'd drag this thread up again when I read this
Girl arrested for 'Facebook footage of Koran burning at school' | Mail Online

Please please please can somebody tell me the difference between the two offences and why no arrests were made for Burning Poppies:mad:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 864582)

Because they can call us, say they will kill us ect, ect but if we so much as draw a cartoon then there is uproar.

Totally wrong.:mad:

But whats reported in the media help keep racial tension up.