That's very kind of you your Holiness
 

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That's very kind of you your Holiness. As a practising Roman Catholic myself, I actually think the Church should take a more pragmatic view where contraception is concerned. I often wonder how many practising Catholics still keep rigidly to the churches teaching on birth control. In this day and age people should be able to chose how many children to bring into the world not take things to chance at the behest of the Church. It seems the Pope has said that people such as prostitutes should be allowed to use condoms in order to prevent the spread of AIDs, can't really see the difference in preventing unwanted children myself. Is this not just another example of the reasons why churches, not only the Catholic church, are on the decline, a move to 21st century thinking may just stem the flow away from the church door

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i'm catholic, but this is of no use to me, its like washing yer feet wi yer socks on.:D

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I've stopped washing my feet.:hehetable

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Are you people some kind of fetishists ? :eek: C'mon people FEET ?

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Hey Dave there are such people:Dor so I'm told:rolleyes:

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I don't understand why anybody can allow another person dictate how they conduct their lives. Conscience is better than dogma anyday (if you have no conscience you are less than human)

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I've always said its out of order a man making all the rules when he doesn't play the game;)

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You would be amazed at what vatican whistleblowers have to tell;)

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Oh no I wouldn't ;)

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Oh yes you would.:eek:

Well It is pantomime season.:D

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Strange isn't it?

The guys never had a cock up in his life, yet, he controls millions of peoples sexual habits?

Oh what the Hell, please Mr. Pope if you can guarantee I'll have sex again I'll convert, Honest!:D

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Hang on, forget it, I'm not into Alter boys!
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the only reason why the pope is giving the ok to condoms is so that his priests will have less chance of leaving DNA behind and he wont have to appologise again :rolleyes:

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Oh well it took em long enough.

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I notice how the Popes Company VAT-A-Can, (Main distributors of Guinness),
is always quick off the mark for promotional gimmicks, e.g. Saints, Miracles and bleeding Palms, (I hate that Sunday).

Will they now start producing their own rubber liners?

From what I remember the usual ones have a 'use before date', will the new ones have a:-


Stamped on them?

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You forgot the little prayer sheet that will go in them asking for forgiveness. Does this also mean that the missionaries of the church will be handing them out as freebies?

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You get nothing free from any church save a piece of bread and a sip of wine, and even that's a cheap red:D

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No It means they have joined the Self Preservation Society.:hehetable

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I read your quote on Pope Benedict's thoughts on condoms yesterday , Jaysay .

I have taken some phrases from the quote and would be pleased if you would clarify and expand on what you mean by :-

1. A practising Roman Catholic .
2. The Church .
3. A move to the 21st century .

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1 I receive communion every Sunday as I can no longer get to church
2 The Catholic Church
3 Th Catholic Church do not move with the times the last major change was changing the mass from Latin to the language of the country.

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Oooh Goody a test, what happens if he gets it wrong?

Excommunication, the rack, well, I wouldn't expect the Spanish Inquisition a bit too severe...
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I thought that was what the phrase "in the world, but not of the world" was meant to explain.


I was always under the impression that the Mass was unchanging; same Victim, same Sacrifice, offered eternally. Or have I gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick here?

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if the vatican start selling holy condoms wont that defeat teh purpous ?

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You dont need condoms you just have to remember to get off at Bamber Bridge and not go all the way to Preston:D

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The mass hasn't changed bob its just that it was always said in Latin, then it was change to celebrated in the natural tongue of the country ie Britain English

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You do if your P*****:D

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Now there's a novelty ! :D

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Thanks for reply , Jaysay .

I respect your beliefs . I would have given slightly different answers , which I may give in due course .

When Gods finished advising you via a burning bush, or when you have the strength to pick up the tablets?

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Who gives a toss? (not a pun)..maybe unfortunate african tribes or long gone Aztecs that were beaten into going along with the ideas of the Catholic Church will get thier own ideas.. instead of getting thier instructions from some hyped up cretin in Rome.

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Can i assume ya gave Mass a miss yesterday then mancie?:D

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It's about time they got another lady Pope.:eek::That would sort them out.:D

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Or attract more people back to church:D

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Depends on how p***** you are because you might not be able to step up to the plate, but a good point. As Billy Connelly said "The withdrawl method must have been invented by a celibate person because at that moment wild horses couldnt drag my a*** backwards":D

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ya I think I once remember billy saying at one of his gigs that he had the catholic rhythm method to thank for his very existence:D

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Correct on both points .

A Christian doesn't expect the truth on faith and morals he/she believes in to be changed by the world . Quite the reverse , he/she hopes the world will be changed by the truth of Christianity .
Where Christianity has compromised with the world the results have not been good . For example the " conversion " of the Emperor Constantine led to a fall in Christian values . The adoption of a political role by some popes led them into a princely , monarchical role , neglecting their pastoral duties and bringing about a deterioration of Christian standards .


True , the substance of the Mass given to us by Jesus is unchanging , but the way that substance is celebrated has developed over the centuries . In recent years there has been considerable change in how the Mass is celebrated .
1. The reform of the scripture readings , so that we have four Bible passages each Sunday over a three-year cycle , which covers the major parts of the Bible .
2. The reception of Communion under both forms of bread and wine for those who wish .
3. An increasing role for lay people in the Mass .
4. The restructuring of the altar so that the priest is not facing away from the rest of the people .
5. The use of English instead of Latin and Greek .
6. The adoption of many hymns once looked upon as Protestant , and a vast growth of new hymns .
7. The simplification of the Mass by scrapping repetition and some parts which had crept in over the centuries and were not really suitable .
8. The increase in the number of the Eucharistic Prayers ( the central prayer of the Mass ) , instead of being stuck with the one Roman Canon .
9. Masses written for the specific use of children .
10. Christians of churches which are not Catholic playing an active role in the Mass when it is suitable .

I could go on . So much has happened since the Second Vatican Council to bring reform in all areas of the Church's life . Sadly so many are unaware of it , or have been badly introduced to it .

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I could go on . So much has happened since the Second Vatican Council to bring reform in all areas of the Church's life . Sadly so many are unaware of it , or have been badly introduced to it .

I do hope that you won't.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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am i correct in assuming the popes imaginary friend whispered its ok to rubber up into his ear or has the pope gone rougue and is now making his own rules up ?

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As in when overfed govt. ministers tell us to "tighten the belt", and then go off for a 20 course lunch for a sawbuck;)

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I promise I won't . Cross my heart and hope to die .:):):)

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So you've seen photos of Two Jags and Nicholas Soames then Eric;)