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gynn 28-11-2010 17:45

Council Cuts
 
East Lancs' crippling budget cuts - while rich escape (From Lancashire Telegraph)

So Hyndburn faces 18% cuts next year alone. Not just massive, but more massive than other, more affluent Councils face.

How is that fair?

Acrylic-bob 29-11-2010 14:04

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Eighteen percent, Hmmm. Assuming that you had the responsibility, where would you begin to cut eighteen percent from the budget of HBC? What jobs and services would you axe or cut back on?

The current budget is somewhere in the region of £16 Million with £4 million in reserves and a net pensions deficit of £47 million and a wages bill of £13 million.

It is interesting to note that the Managing Director of HBC is paid a total of £147,672 pa (which includes employer pension contributions of £27,608.) and his deputy is paid £119,053 (which includes employer pension contributions of £21,896 ).

I wonder if they will be taking an 18% cut, what do you think?

accyman 29-11-2010 14:11

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well its not realy a shocker seen as cameron himself stated that he hated the north and couldnt understand why anyone lived there.Yet people in the north still voted for him so they must have thought cameron wasnt refering to them or somthing .Credit where credit is due though cameron said he hated teh north and now hes backing it up

gynn 29-11-2010 14:35

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 865456)
It is interesting to note that the Managing Director of HBC is paid a total of £147,672 pa (which includes employer pension contributions of £27,608.) and his deputy is paid £119,053 (which includes employer pension contributions of £21,896 ).

I wonder if they will be taking an 18% cut, what do you think?

From my knowledge and dealings with them, they are both worth every penny. Councillor Moss has mentioned on this site the great (and thankless!) job the Managing Director does in keeping all the different factions together with such difficult political leadership.

What worries me is the cost of the large number of administrative jobs created in recent years, to ensure the right ticks are being put in the right boxes. How much was wasted courting the government inspectors who gave the ludicrous "Excellent" status? All spin, no substance.

That's where the savings are!

cashman 29-11-2010 14:45

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 865460)
From my knowledge and dealings with them, they are both worth every penny. Councillor Moss has mentioned on this site the great (and thankless!) job the Managing Director does in keeping all the different factions together with such difficult political leadership.

What worries me is the cost of the large number of administrative jobs created in recent years, to ensure the right ticks are being put in the right boxes. How much was wasted courting the government inspectors who gave the ludicrous "Excellent" status? All spin, no substance.

That's where the savings are!

But do ya think thats were the savings will be? i sure as hell doubt it.:eek:

Benipete 29-11-2010 18:11

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 865460)
From my knowledge and dealings with them, they are both worth every penny. Councillor Moss has mentioned on this site the great (and thankless!) job the Managing Director does in keeping all the different factions together with such difficult political leadership.

What worries me is the cost of the large number of administrative jobs created in recent years, to ensure the right ticks are being put in the right boxes. How much was wasted courting the government inspectors who gave the ludicrous "Excellent" status? All spin, no substance.

That's where the savings are!

Is shooting yourself in the foot a hobby or an obsession.:confused:

He either does a good job or he does like every other politician and employs a laccy who in turn employs another laccy and so down the line we go.:eek:

Good fun innit.:D:D

jaysay 29-11-2010 18:37

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 865503)
Is shooting yourself in the foot a hobby or an obsession.:confused:

He either does a good job or he does like every other politician and employs a lady who in turn employs another laccy and so down the line we go.:eek:

Good fun innit.:D:D

Its better than bear baiting Beni:D

gynn 30-11-2010 07:00

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 865503)
Is shooting yourself in the foot a hobby or an obsession.:confused:

Que?

setayas 30-11-2010 09:05

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This happens the world over. The people of Hyndburn elected a labour MP and we have a conservative government. Where do you think the swingeing cuts are going to fall.

Less 30-11-2010 11:52

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Originally Posted by setayas (Post 865656)
The people of Hyndburn elected a labour MP and we have a conservative government. Where do you think the swingeing cuts are going to fall.

I thought we had ended up with a condemned coalition?

accyman 30-11-2010 16:29

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 865694)
I thought we had ended up with a condemned coalition?

we did and cameron got a new tea lady.I say lady becuse there has yet to be any evidence that clegg has any balls

Ken Moss 01-12-2010 18:28

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I'm on a committee known as Overview and Scrutiny: Resources which looks at how the council spends its money and in six months I am appalled and the vast swathes of waste I see everywhere in the name of ticking the right boxes.

There is a very detailed list of the spending from each department, something which is about the size of five phone books and used to get sent out to councillors as a matter of course in years gone by. I have requested a copy, I feel fairly confident I could whittle out 18%.

Whether anyone listens at Britcliffe HQ is another matter, it'll all probably be due to 13 years of Labour rule when the chips are down.

jaysay 01-12-2010 18:37

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 866059)

Whether anyone listens at Britcliffe HQ is another matter, it'll all probably be due to 13 years of Labour rule when the chips are down.

Well now you've got it saves me keep telling you

gynn 01-12-2010 19:18

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 866059)
I feel fairly confident I could whittle out 18%.

Whether anyone listens at Britcliffe HQ is another matter, it'll all probably be due to 13 years of Labour rule when the chips are down.

They can go on about 13 years of Labour rule as much as they want, but they are wasting their breath.

There's still 18% savings to be found.

jaysay 02-12-2010 09:18

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 866074)
They can go on about 13 years of Labour rule as much as they want, but they are wasting their breath.

There's still 18% savings to be found.

Because of the last 13 years of mismanagement;)


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