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jaysay 29-11-2010 10:32

Surgeries merge
 
21,000 Accrington and Pendle patients' GP practices merge (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Take it that the Accrington branch of this set up is what was the Avenue Parade surgery can't remember its name, from whats been said on here about that practice looks like things ain't going to gt better anytime soon:(

Margaret Pilkington 29-11-2010 10:40

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Peel House was the one on Avenue Parade...they moved into Pals.(they aren't mentioned)
The Acorn Medical Centre is the one on Blackburn Road in Accrington. I'm not sure which doctors use the Acorn Medical centre, but they aren't from Peel house.

jaysay 29-11-2010 18:13

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 865407)
Peel House was the one on Avenue Parade...they moved into Pals.(they aren't mentioned)
The Acorn Medical Centre is the one on Blackburn Road in Accrington. I'm not sure which doctors use the Acorn Medical centre, but they aren't from Peel house.

Thanks Margaret

Benipete 29-11-2010 18:17

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Help is at hand.Take 4 times a day,

Accrington Acorn Primary Health Care Centre

jaysay 29-11-2010 18:24

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 865507)
Help is at hand.Take 4 times a day,

Accrington Acorn Primary Health Care Centre

No thanks Beni I'm already taking enough as it is:D

MargaretR 29-11-2010 18:42

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A little websearch reveals two medical practices at the Acorn Centre
Dr T Manjooran & Partners, Hyndburn Medical Practice
Dr MA Sajid, Eagle Medical Practice

I visit that centre for chiropody every two months and always find the cavernous waiting area very sparsly populated by never more than 6 people.

This lavish building, with its 'community art':rolleyes: must be costing a bomb to lease and heat.
It looks like this latest move will be an attempt to make it more financially viable.

jaysay 29-11-2010 18:45

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 865523)
A little websearch reveals two medical practices at the Acorn Centre
Dr T Manjooran & Partners, Hyndburn Medical Practice
Dr MA Sajid, Eagle Medical Practice

I visit that centre for chiropody every two months and always find the cavernous waiting area very sparsly populated by never more than 6 people.

This lavish building, with its 'community art':rolleyes: must be costing a bomb to lease and heat.
It looks like this latest move will be an attempt to make it more financially viable.

Big is best is not the way I see things;)

Benipete 29-11-2010 19:13

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 865523)
A little websearch reveals two medical practices at the Acorn Centre
Dr T Manjooran & Partners, Hyndburn Medical Practice
Dr MA Sajid, Eagle Medical Practice

I visit that centre for chiropody every two months and always find the cavernous waiting area very sparsly populated by never more than 6 people.

This lavish building, with its 'community art':rolleyes: must be costing a bomb to lease and heat.
It looks like this latest move will be an attempt to make it more financially viable.

It is truly a wonderful building as is the Pals surgery and one day in the distant future it will be paid for.:confused::confused:

MargaretR 29-11-2010 19:22

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That gallery glass window must have cost a fair whack
look here -
BB5 UK - Google Maps
...and those odd bits of shaped concrete on the paved area.

There is more frivolity inside. The atrium roof light is filled with coloured streamers which block the light. They look like long strings of paper bow shapes (not crotcheted, so not really art :rolleyes:)

kestrelx 29-11-2010 19:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 865526)
Big is best is not the way I see things;)

More centralisation - less power for the individual! What was that on the front page of the Mail I think it was last week, that the tories are thinking about having a new central call center which we must all call to make appointments with out GPs! It will not be at our surgery - so what happens if something goes wrong? Sounds like a damned silly idea to me.

jaysay 29-11-2010 19:54

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 865551)
More centralisation - less power for the individual! What was that on the front page of the Mail I think it was last week, that the tories are thinking about having a new central call center which we must all call to make appointments with out GPs! It will not be at our surgery - so what happens if something goes wrong? Sounds like a damned silly idea to me.

Don't know and don't really care, my docs just round the corner and you don't need appointments either;)

junetta 29-11-2010 20:54

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Dr Manjooran was my doctor when I lived in Accy all those years ago. Looks like he has done well for himself.

cashman 29-11-2010 22:56

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Originally Posted by junetta (Post 865571)
Dr Manjooran was my doctor when I lived in Accy all those years ago. Looks like he has done well for himself.

Quite a few people i know rated him june, some real clowns at the acorn now.:eek:

Neil 30-11-2010 07:50

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 865554)
....my docs just round the corner and you don't need appointments either;)

That is a stupid idea

Neil 30-11-2010 07:52

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 865543)
That gallery glass window must have cost a fair whack
look here -
BB5 UK - Google Maps
...and those odd bits of shaped concrete on the paved area.

There is more frivolity inside. The atrium roof light is filled with coloured streamers which block the light. They look like long strings of paper bow shapes (not crotcheted, so not really art :rolleyes:)

So what would you prefer then?

claytonender 30-11-2010 08:00

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865631)
That is a stupid idea

Why is is a stupid idea - at least you can get to see a doctor when you need to and you don't have to ring an 0844 number and pay over the odds in telephone charges to contact them.

Neil 30-11-2010 08:16

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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 865638)
Why is is a stupid idea - at least you can get to see a doctor when you need to and you don't have to ring an 0844 number and pay over the odds in telephone charges to contact them.

Its stupid because I have sat in open surgeries for hours waiting for my turn with a load of ill people coughing and spluttering all over the place.

I phone my Doctor on a 01254 number and usually get to see him at a suitable time without much difficulty.

Open surgeries are ok if you don't work. Those of us that do need appointments to fit in with work.

jaysay 30-11-2010 08:45

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865631)
That is a stupid idea

not from where I'm sitting it ain't;)

jaysay 30-11-2010 08:49

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865642)
Its stupid because I have sat in open surgeries for hours waiting for my turn with a load of ill people coughing and spluttering all over the place.

I phone my Doctor on a 01254 number and usually get to see him at a suitable time without much difficulty.

Open surgeries are ok if you don't work. Those of us that do need appointments to fit in with work.

When I lived in Hassy they had appointments surgery, I used to ring up and ask for an appointment, oh we have nothing until a week next pan cake Tuesday, that's fine I'll have an house call then I sick now not in 10 days time, somehow they always used to fit me in;)

kestrelx 30-11-2010 09:45

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 865651)
When I lived in Hassy they had appointments surgery, I used to ring up and ask for an appointment, oh we have nothing until a week next pan cake Tuesday, that's fine I'll have an house call then I sick now not in 10 days time, somehow they always used to fit me in;)

They don't do house calls anymore do they? Unless your hearts stopped lol

jaysay 30-11-2010 09:48

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 865673)
They don't do house calls anymore do they? Unless your hearts stopped lol

Well that maybe the case with your Quack, but mine still turns out if needed, he even calls in or rings to see if things are okay, can't beat that;)

Neil 30-11-2010 12:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 865651)
When I lived in Hassy they had appointments surgery....


But you moved from the wilderness into Gods Country :rolleyes::D

Its ok when you can just wonder down to the surgery after Jeremy Kyle has finished and stick a bottle of cold tea in your snotty faced kids gob while it sits in a dirty nappy in an even more dirty pram for an hour or two chatting with your mates about Jezza but some of us do work and need to be able to arrange appointments around work not around daytime TV.

oops rant over

flashy 30-11-2010 12:37

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865697)
But you moved from the wilderness into Gods Country :rolleyes::D

Its ok when you can just wonder down to the surgery after Jeremy Kyle has finished and stick a bottle of cold tea in your snotty faced kids gob while it sits in a dirty nappy in an even more dirty pram for an hour or two chatting with your mates about Jezza but some of us do work and need to be able to arrange appointments around work not around daytime TV.

oops rant over


whats up? did you miss Jezza this morning? don't worry its on again this afternoon :D

Margaret Pilkington 30-11-2010 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865642)
Its stupid because I have sat in open surgeries for hours waiting for my turn with a load of ill people coughing and spluttering all over the place.

I phone my Doctor on a 01254 number and usually get to see him at a suitable time without much difficulty.

Open surgeries are ok if you don't work. Those of us that do need appointments to fit in with work.

You want to try and get an appointment at Pals........you either die or recover before you get to see a doctor there.......and another, thing you can't get through on the damn phone to book an appointment....the only way you can do it is go down to the surgery for 08.30 and stand in the queue....sometimes you will be lucky and see a doctor(though maybe not your own doctor)....and sometimes you will have to see a nurse to see if your condition warrants an opion by a GP.
This is not good when you are feeling rough as rope.

They should concentrate on treating the sick folks and leave the well alone.....but alas that doesn't tick the governmental boxes!

cashman 30-11-2010 16:21

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 865752)
You want to try and get an appointment at Pals........you either die or recover before you get to see a doctor there.......and another, thing you can't get through on the damn phone to book an appointment....the only way you can do it is go down to the surgery for 08.30 and stand in the queue....sometimes you will be lucky and see a doctor(though maybe not your own doctor)....and sometimes you will have to see a nurse to see if your condition warrants an opion by a GP.
This is not good when you are feeling rough as rope.

They should concentrate on treating the sick folks and leave the well alone.....but alas that doesn't tick the governmental boxes!

i aint seen me own doc at the pals fer approx 18 months, last time i asked to see him i was told 14 days to wait n he wasn't on holiday, but i would have been by that time, if i hadn't popped me clogs, ya obviously have no concept of these practices neil, Paris is at a different docs, they have NO appointment needed at mornings, Afternoons ya need one, aint rocket science that works fer everyone.;)

Neil 30-11-2010 17:22

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 865761)
ya obviously have no concept of these practices neil

Not true, been with practices that do it both ways and I don't see why I should have to wait a couple of hours to see a Doc just because they cant sort out the appointments system properly.

I don't have a problem with my Doc. Maybe you need to move to another practice.

DaveinGermany 30-11-2010 17:37

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865777)
I don't have a problem with my Doc.

That's good, so maybe you can ask him for some happy Pils, to counter Grumpy Neil ! Happy Neil is so much nicer ! ;)

jaysay 30-11-2010 17:42

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865697)
But you moved from the wilderness into Gods Country :rolleyes::D

Its ok when you can just wonder down to the surgery after Jeremy Kyle has finished and stick a bottle of cold tea in your snotty faced kids gob while it sits in a dirty nappy in an even more dirty pram for an hour or two chatting with your mates about Jezza but some of us do work and need to be able to arrange appointments around work not around daytime TV.

oops rant over

Not like you to have rant Neil, you'll have the mods out with the cutters again:D:D:p

jaysay 30-11-2010 17:44

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 865781)
That's good, so maybe you can ask him for some happy Pils, to counter Grumpy Neil ! Happy Neil is so much nicer ! ;)

Only ever met one miself Dave:D

cashman 30-11-2010 18:39

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 865761)
i aint seen me own doc at the pals fer approx 18 months, last time i asked to see him i was told 14 days to wait n he wasn't on holiday, but i would have been by that time, if i hadn't popped me clogs, ya obviously have no concept of these practices neil, Paris is at a different docs, they have NO appointment needed at mornings, Afternoons ya need one, aint rocket science that works fer everyone.;)

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865777)
Not true, been with practices that do it both ways and I don't see why I should have to wait a couple of hours to see a Doc just because they cant sort out the appointments system properly.

I don't have a problem with my Doc. Maybe you need to move to another practice.

if ya read my post, that way ya wouldn't have to wait 2 hrs ya could make n appointment n it suits everyone, coarse it wouldn't suit a selfish git.:D

Margaret Pilkington 30-11-2010 21:00

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865777)
Not true, been with practices that do it both ways and I don't see why I should have to wait a couple of hours to see a Doc just because they cant sort out the appointments system properly.

I don't have a problem with my Doc. Maybe you need to move to another practice.

It isn't that easy. Practices will pick and choose who they want, and the really good practices(where are they, then) are usually over-subscribed.
When i joined Peel House it was a really good practice.......with Doctors that I knew and trusted(many of them had trained on the wards that I had myself worked on)....now it has got too big and is very impersonal.......you never see the same doctor twice, so how do they maintain continuity...short answer is that they don't.
To them it doesn't seem to matter, but to patients it is of paramount importance.

Neil 30-11-2010 21:10

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 865827)
if ya read my post, that way ya wouldn't have to wait 2 hrs ya could make n appointment n it suits everyone, coarse it wouldn't suit a selfish git.:D

I never took you as a selfish fella

cashman 30-11-2010 21:14

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865858)
I never took you as a selfish fella

lifes full of surprises.:D

Margaret Pilkington 30-11-2010 21:19

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 865859)
lifes full of surprises.:D

and a lot of them are not pleasant!

cashman 30-11-2010 21:21

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 865861)
and a lot of them are not pleasant!

Now,Now Neil aint so bad really.:D

jaysay 01-12-2010 09:06

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 865864)
Now,Now Neil aint so bad really.:D

He's a great Goat herder:D:D

Barrie Yates 01-12-2010 19:56

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How did we manage before almost every house had a phone or everyone had a mobile? Yes, I remember sitting in the Surgery Waiting Room for what seemed like hours, but probably no more than an hour - always in the evening.
Group practices seem to be a great idea - for the doctors and the nurses that are employed there - overheads are shared.
Dr McFadden and then Dr Quinn seemed to manage OK without a nurse or receptionist up to the early '60s and they did house visits!

Margaret Pilkington 01-12-2010 21:06

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Barrie......that was before the meddling governments got involved. GP's back then saw sick people....and the sick benefitted......now GP's are involved in preventative medicine(and I'm not saying that is a bad thing) and it gets harder and harder for those who are ill to see a doctor.......oh, yes and before anyone has a go......I don't go to the doctor for piffling ailments that I can sort out for myself.(as those folk who know me will testify)

jaysay 02-12-2010 09:00

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 866099)
Barrie......that was before the meddling governments got involved. GP's back then saw sick people....and the sick benefitted......now GP's are involved in preventative medicine(and I'm not saying that is a bad thing) and it gets harder and harder for those who are ill to see a doctor.......oh, yes and before anyone has a go......I don't go to the doctor for piffling ailments that I can sort out for myself.(as those folk who know me will testify)

Think its life today Margaret, you only have to listen to the things people ring 999 for, speaks volumes

Margaret Pilkington 02-12-2010 09:36

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Yes, John......that just shows how very self centred some folk are.......don't they understand the concept of 'emergency'?

I wouldn't visit my GP ever.....I only go when I am in a half Nelson and being railroaded up that hill to the practice........and I do consider that I am lucky to have reasonable health for my age.

Neil 02-12-2010 16:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 866141)
Think its life today Margaret, you only have to listen to the things people ring 999 for, speaks volumes

Whats that got to do with the price of fish :confused:

jaysay 02-12-2010 17:56

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 866202)
Whats that got to do with the price of fish :confused:

A lot if your having an heart attack and some nob head is taking up time with a lost false nail down the back of a settee:rolleyes:

Neil 02-12-2010 20:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 866231)
A lot if your having an heart attack and some nob head is taking up time with a lost false nail down the back of a settee:rolleyes:

And what has that got to do with GP's? I think you are suffering from snow blindness :p:D

cashman 02-12-2010 21:09

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 865777)
Maybe you need to move to another practice.

Maybe ya have no concept of what it took to get in wi a practice when i returned from living abroad? believe me was ruddy hard n summat i have no intention of disclosing on here.;)

Neil 03-12-2010 08:10

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Maybe not, when we moved here we just filling in the paperwork and moved surgeries.

cashman 03-12-2010 08:35

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 866321)
Maybe not, when we moved here we just filling in the paperwork and moved surgeries.

how long ago was that neil? seems things are different now, mine was 10 yrs ago, mind may not be the same if yer just switching docs in this country?:confused: seems getting stuff transferred from abroad aint as simple as it should be.

jaysay 03-12-2010 08:45

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 866323)
how long ago was that neil? seems things are different now, mine was 10 yrs ago, mind may not be the same if yer just switching docs in this country?:confused: seems getting stuff transferred from abroad aint as simple as it should be.

Especially if your coming from Outer Mongolia:D


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