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what do you think should happen to cannon street church?
what do you think should be done with cannon street baptist church. please vote
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it should it shouldnt get nocked down they will only build a mosk there:mad:
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it should it shouldnt. i think ur going batty lenny! meet me after school at my house. 5.30 (sorry for going off thread)
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its reght i will be at yours at 5.30 that is if my mumwill let me out straight oh yeah iv to clean my mums room
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keep on thread! sorry everyone!!
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I suppose option 2 would depend on whether or not the church could afford it.
How about none of the above? Could the building itself be preserved and used as something else if the church cannot afford to stay there? |
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I think that any available options have already been taken my the Baptist church and unlike the HBC will not be swayed by public opinion.:(
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It would be a waste to knock down the church and lose a fine building.
I would like to see the building bought by Wetherspoons, and turned into one of their drinks emporiums. (Sorry, Mr T, Sir). |
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That would be a rather ironic fate.
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>>I think that any available options have already been taken my the Baptist church and unlike the HBC will not be swayed by public opinion.<<
Oh, so it's going to be luxury flats for out-of-towners is it? Another fine building that will be closed to public access - Disgraceful! Why aren't we shouting our heads off about this? |
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Has it actually been sold or does the Baptist Church still own it? if they are selling/have sold I presume it is simply a case of who wants to buy or will pay the most.
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i think the baptist church still owns it. i will ask the church leader
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Hang on, have just seen that Cannon Street Baptist Church is a listed building (see earlier thread "Listed Buildings", so they can't pull it down without a fight. This one might well be worth following up. There is probably a notice in the darkest part of HBC's basement, giving public(!) notice that they want to do this. They can then say that they displayed a notice and no-one objected!
Worth keeping an eye, and checking on what the Powers of Darkness intend to do, especially in view of what they have already done. |
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What grade listed building is it? I
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No idea, Atarah provided the list, I think, and would probably know. If not, let me know and I will try to find out.
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Cannon Street Baptist Church is Grade II Listed and is in a Conservation Area, so demolition should be difficult. Grade II listing means that the inside can be hacked about as the owner pleases but the outside may not be altered without permission.
I would think that it is incumbent on HBC to ensure that the building retains some form of public usage. It would make an ideal location for a borough museum and could easily be connected to the Library in St. James's Street. There is, apparently a large body of artefacts from the history of the borough, that are seldom, if ever, seen by the public. Such a museum would present a great educational resource to the borough. |
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Great idea about a museum of local artefacts A-b.
Also - the inside would surely be high enough to allow the location of the Accy (ex-Arndale) clock! Sorted! |
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Excellent Idea! And also the remains of the Ashton-Frost Steam Engine. Now all we need to do is find someone on HBC with a bit of Vision and Foresight. I don't hold out too much hope.
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It's funny how there seems to be a public outcry when any building of this nature is threatened with conversion into something seen as undesirable, or even worse, demolition. I would like to bet that the majority of people mourning the fate of this and other similar buildings (e.g. Sacred Heart) have never stepped a foot inside them. Perhaps if these same people had used the buildings for their intended purposes they would not now be under the threat of impending demolition or whatever. Just a thought.
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Well I've stepped inside both of them more than once but I'm not actually of the persuasion of either and go to my own church every Sunday. It doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see the building retained and used for a purpose which would benefit the town, which I think a museum would. It could also incorporate the history of the church itself.
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It would indeed make a fine museum;was looking at some old Accy photos last night and it's quite staggering how many of the Churches have disappeared.The one that used to be on the site of the Swan carpark was a fantastic building!
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isnt it gods house therefore bleongs to everybody
since when has god been into realestate if anything it shouldnt be sold it should be given and since its supposedly gods house let the christians decide what to use it for and make sure muslims dont get it maybe a new nursery or dare i say it a dentists as we need them more than ever now especialy NHS ones as an athiest i dont care much for any religeous use but let it be used for somthing us white folk can use as well for a change instead of pandering the so called minoritys |
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No point having a dental surgery without an actual dentist to put in it.
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should be kncoked down and something else put there
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Chav's earlier comment about the ownership of the building got me thinking. Presumably the building and the land it stands on were financed, in one way or another, by public subscription. Surley then, natural justice would seem to dictate that the descendants of those subscribers should have some moral right in determining the fate of the building.
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As it's a Baptist church doesn't the building and land belong to the baptists? If it was built by "public subscription" presumably it was baptist public rather than general Accy inhabitants? I know there were bank accounts with money in which had been donated by members or bequeathed in wills etc which were for specific purposes only and couldn't be used for anything else. I don't know if the decendants of those benefactors would have any say in the matter but if Cannon Street Baptists ceases/has ceased to exist I wonder what happens to the money in those funds?
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accrington victoria hospital was built by and paid for by the people of accrington yet we get sod all say in it been turned into a minor injuries place
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It already is accident and emergency as well as community hospital.
sorry misread your post. |
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What about the building across the road to it, the grand Conservative Club. This buillding was I believe sold at auction or is for sale, the last occasion planning permission was refused,was, as the grand ballroom had to stay as it is, since then windows have been removed from the grand ballroom, thus rendering it to the mercy of the elements to take its toll, if any member of the civic society are online take note. This is a ploy to bring this class 2 listed building into disrepair, to enable the present greedy absent owners an easier passage to sell this, the grandest building in our Borough a saleable commodity. The annoying thing about it is Hyndburn Council are privy to this, as I and my next door neighbour have informed them of the situation many many times.
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OH MAN
HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE BE SO NAIVE?! IT WOULD MAKE A BRILLIANT POUND SHOP!!!! on a serious note - i miss that toy shop where baileys is now :( |
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Another old thread dug up.
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knowing the council in accy they will probably turn it into a mosque and stick a big green onion on the top of it
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wasnt the grammer school on blackburn rd listed??
what happened to that?knocked it down, and built crap houses on it!!! |
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yeah it was a shame abot the grammer school
so much could've been done with it... it was a fantastic building from the outside... extensive work on hte inside and it wud've made a great youth centre place - much bigger and better than new era |
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This thread was started in September 2004, what happened to this building? is it still there? whats it now used for?
It's a part of town I never wander into |
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i've never seen it open to be honest - i think it does open once a year for ppl to walk around it
but thats it i think havent seen a wedding there in ages aswell |
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ianto bought it back
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Think there trying to tell you that you brought it up from the archives, anyway - what happened to it?
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You haven't offended anyone, sometimes its good to have them brought back, this is an example as we never did hear what has happened to the building if anything
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Is there enough space down the side to park a car or three?
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i was walking past the other day and the someone had broken the windows. the council havent bothered to repair them even though they are around the corner. broken windows will allow pidgons to wreak havoc giving that useless council an exuse to knock it down and erect a ghastly purpose built building for them to spend our taxes in the most useless fashion. has anyone else seen the broken windows
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It should stop as a church thats what i think any way
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Oh, so it's going to be luxury flats for out-of-towners is it? Another fine building that will be closed to public access - Disgraceful! Why aren't we shouting our heads off about this?[/QUOTE] Well, the application in now for 16 residential apartments. |
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And where are these 16 residents going to park? http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...milies/eek.gif
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Well I had to vote for building something new there - after what I said on the other thread - :)
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Appliction no. 11/07/0388 and 0390 .. mmm confused by two, must be different lay-outs ? submitted by Y & Y Developments (Y&Y .. :D) |
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It could get a bit busy round your corner Ianto with 16 new residences.
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