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cmonstanley 04-12-2010 14:06

revolution in the air
 
sounds like theres revolution in the air;) and david camerons advisors and right hand men are all involved in the tax avoidance scheme;) BBC News - Topshop's flagship London store hit by tax protest

jaysay 04-12-2010 14:18

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 866576)
sounds like theres revolution in the air;) and david cameron's advisors and right hand men are all involved in the tax avoidance scheme;) BBC News - Topshop's flagship London store hit by tax protest

I wonder why this is still allowed in our country, especially after 13 years of Labour Government, strange really you would have thought they would have taken great steps to put this right, now you have the never to highlight it:D:D:D:D

jaysay 04-12-2010 14:59

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Well having read the article and seen some pictures it appear that the demonstrators will have plenty in common with those they are protesting about, in as much as neither of um will be paying much tax:rolleyes::rolleyes:;)

cmonstanley 04-12-2010 16:14

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la viva the private eye..:)

andrewb 04-12-2010 17:55

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 866576)
sounds like theres revolution in the air;) and david camerons advisors and right hand men are all involved in the tax avoidance scheme;) BBC News - Topshop's flagship London store hit by tax protest

I bought some stuff from that Topman today. Wasn't very many protesters. Tons of people buying stuff from the store though.

It took up a lot of police resources however since they decided to do it in the doorway of the shop. These are the same people that will protest against spending reductions I imagine.

andrewb 04-12-2010 18:04

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Oh and if that's meant to be the revolution, I don't need to worry about booking my plane tickets just yet!

Wynonie Harris 04-12-2010 18:14

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 866616)
I bought some stuff from that Topman today.

A damning admission in itself. ;)

Bernard Dawson 04-12-2010 18:22

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 866616)
I bought some stuff from that Topman today. Wasn't very many protesters. Tons of people buying stuff from the store though.

It took up a lot of police resources however since they decided to do it in the doorway of the shop. These are the same people that will protest against spending reductions I imagine.

There may only have been a few of them Andrew, but they seem to have got a fair bit of national media coverage. Which I would imagine was the purpose of the demonstration.

cashman 04-12-2010 18:42

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 866620)
A damning admission in itself. ;)

yep it demonstrates plainly how toryboy views Tax Avoidance:rolleyes:

kestrelx 04-12-2010 18:43

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 866624)
There may only have been a few of them Andrew, but they seem to have got a fair bit of national media coverage. Which I would imagine was the purpose of the demonstration.

Hat's off to them for getting off their backsides and making a stand - that's what we need. It's unusual for people to organise and protest over an issue like this!

DaveinGermany 04-12-2010 18:55

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The guy has been wheeling & dealing since the mid 70's & your "revolution" is only kicking in now ? At the end of 2010 ! Even being generous that's 30 odd years late don't you think ?

Wynonie Harris 04-12-2010 19:22

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 866626)
yep it demonstrates plainly how toryboy views Tax Avoidance:rolleyes:

Well, there is that, although I was thinking more of his sartorial tastes. ;)

andrewb 05-12-2010 09:22

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yep it demonstrates plainly how toryboy views Tax Avoidance:rolleyes:

Am sure we are both in agreement that the many thousands of jobs and taxpayers Philip Green has created are a very welcome thing. ;)

cashman 05-12-2010 09:27

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 866712)
Am sure we are both in agreement that the many thousands of jobs and taxpayers Philip Green has created are a very welcome thing. ;)

yep welcome indeed, sod all to do wi tax avoidance though, are ya saying the jobs make it alright? seems so to me, ;) Typical tactic avoiding the issue.

jaysay 05-12-2010 09:33

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yep welcome indeed, sod all to do wi tax avoidance though, are ya saying the jobs make it alright? seems so to me, ;)

Like I've said before Labour did sod all to try and stop tax avoidance whilst in power, mind you they were probable using the same loopholes for there own benefits so why close um:D

cashman 05-12-2010 10:01

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no-ones disputing labour probably used em, whats happened is now this has been highlighted by the media, regardless of who's in power, i will slag em, seems if its yer own lot torys aint the balls to call there own.:rolleyes:

jaysay 05-12-2010 10:07

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 866727)
no-ones disputing labour probably used em, whats happened is now this has been highlighted by the media, regardless of who's in power, i will slag em, seems if its yer own lot torys aint the balls to call there own.:rolleyes:

No it hasn't been highlighted by the media, the media report it like all other things organised by Rent a Mob:mad:

cashman 05-12-2010 10:09

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 866576)
sounds like theres revolution in the air;) and david camerons advisors and right hand men are all involved in the tax avoidance scheme;) BBC News - Topshop's flagship London store hit by tax protest

if that aint the media highlighting it, theres no hope fer ya.:rolleyes:

Boeing Guy 05-12-2010 10:43

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Maybe the way to stop tax avoidance would be to simplify the tax system. Something like this:
Everyone earning over £8000.00 pays 30% income tax.
No loop holes if you are paid into a UK bank account or have a home in the UK you pay.
But that would not be 'fair' to those that feel the weathy should pay more.

jaysay 05-12-2010 17:41

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 866734)
Maybe the way to stop tax avoidance would be to simplify the tax system. Something like this:
Everyone earning over £8000.00 pays 30% income tax.
No loop holes if you are paid into a UK bank account or have a home in the UK you pay.
But that would not be 'fair' to those that feel the weathy should pay more.

Well they can't complain BG if you earn more you pay more, somebody earning £20,000 pays 6 grand, someone earning £200,000 pays 60 grand seems fair enough to me

JCB 05-12-2010 18:22

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 866576)
sounds like theres revolution in the air

And anyone who knows anything about UK politics will know that that's where the revolution will stay .

jaysay 05-12-2010 18:23

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 866840)
And anyone who knows anything about UK politics will know that that's where the revolution will stay .

Nice one JCB;)

Retlaw 05-12-2010 21:05

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 866734)
Maybe the way to stop tax avoidance would be to simplify the tax system. Something like this:
Everyone earning over £8000.00 pays 30% income tax.
No loop holes if you are paid into a UK bank account or have a home in the UK you pay.
But that would not be 'fair' to those that feel the weathy should pay more.

Thats a LL of a lot of tax on 8 grand, does'nt leave much to live off.
Its not much more than a pensioner gets.
Minimum wage 6 quid an hour for 40 hours gives 12480 quid a year.
Retlaw.

Boeing Guy 06-12-2010 07:26

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Okay so let's tweak it a bit...
Income tax threshold £8000.00
Between £8000.00 and £20,000.00 15% tax,
Over £20,000.00 30% tax.
Or we could have a civil war!!!

kestrelx 12-12-2010 15:23

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A taste of things to come?

On Thursday I thought the demo would have finished on my way back but when I couldn't get a bus, I realised it was still on. I walked down to Trafalgar Square and came across this which I videod...

YouTube - London Student demo 9th december 2010.wmv

Cheers - Kestrel X

Gordon Booth 12-12-2010 16:40

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Wow, pulling lights off a Christmas tree! True revolutionaries.Che would have been proud of them.I wonder who did it? The Latvian,,Argentinian,Italian,German or Spanish anarchists? We certainly seem to have some of the oldest students in the world.
This did the cause of our REAL students no good at all.

MargaretR 12-12-2010 17:23

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Police containment tactics, although considered neccessary by some, seem to be having unexpected side effects

YouTube - 15 year old Tells Establishment to Stick-it.

jaysay 12-12-2010 17:28

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 868452)
Wow, pulling lights off a Christmas tree! True revolutionaries.Che would have been proud of them.I wonder who did it? The Latvian,,Argentinian,Italian,German or Spanish anarchists? We certainly seem to have some of the oldest students in the world.
This did the cause of our REAL students no good at all.

Ya and riping the flag off the Cenotaph, by a pampered so called Rock Stars son, was a real eye opener

Gordon Booth 12-12-2010 18:22

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'15 year old tells establishment to stick it'.There you see a future MP(wonder which party?) or a revolutionary anarchist or both if he's really ambitious.'We know they don't think we're a danger to the public'. 'We know they don't think we're going to run riot'. He's off to a good start. Also notice he was a well trained public speaker-not your average schoolboy from an average school.
As for Clair Solomon- she was complaining that the police treated 8 YEAR OLD protesters badly.How young can you be to join her union? She KNEW there were 8 year olds there and didn't try to sort it?Then we complain about boy soldiers in Africa!

lancsdave 12-12-2010 19:03

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No doubt the ones causing more trouble were the ones who complained they had to go to school because it's compulsory !!

kestrelx 12-12-2010 20:28

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 868465)
Police containment tactics, although considered neccessary by some, seem to be having unexpected side effects

I wondered why the police took so long to come and defend this Christmas tree. They allowed the protesters to light a seperate fire which attracted a helicopter but no police on foot. Until the fire was moved to the base of the tree. Why the delay!

Also why did the police allow Prince Charles car to drive into that area un protected? :confused:

lancsdave 12-12-2010 20:34

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 868527)
Also why did the police allow Prince Charles car to drive into that area un protected? :confused:

Backhander from Al Fayed :D

kestrelx 12-12-2010 20:39

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 868532)
Backhander from Al Fayed :D

:eek: This is the face of Camilla!

jaysay 13-12-2010 08:55

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Its always made me wonder why people go on a demonstration with their face masked concealing their identity, to me if you want to protest be proud and stand up, don't skulk behind a mask, its like people writing letters anonymously to the press, not worth a light, if you mask your appearance your up to no good:(

JCB 13-12-2010 19:40

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Has the revolution in the air evaporated ?

According to today's Guardian , the annual British Social Attitudes survey of more than 3,500 people , conducted by the National Centre for Social Research , says that Britain today is more Thatcherite than in the 80's .

Another 18 years of it ?

cashman 13-12-2010 21:14

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 868764)
Has the revolution in the air evaporated ?

According to today's Guardian , the annual British Social Attitudes survey of more than 3,500 people , conducted by the National Centre for Social Research , says that Britain today is more Thatcherite than in the 80's .

Another 18 years of it ?

that i do think is the case.:(

kestrelx 13-12-2010 21:38

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 868764)
Has the revolution in the air evaporated ?

According to today's Guardian , the annual British Social Attitudes survey of more than 3,500 people , conducted by the National Centre for Social Research , says that Britain today is more Thatcherite than in the 80's .

Another 18 years of it ?

Mmm that could be 3,500 middle class Guardian readers... but have you heard the saying...

"Lies, damned lies and Statistics..."

Lies, damned lies, and statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

cashman 13-12-2010 21:50

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 868794)
Mmm that could be 3,500 middle class Guardian readers... but have you heard the saying...

"Lies, damned lies and Statistics..."

Lies, damned lies, and statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

well i sure as hell aint a middle class guardian reader, n find it odd yer quoting "Wiki" which any clown can bullshine on.

Mancie 13-12-2010 21:54

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 868764)
Has the revolution in the air evaporated ?

According to today's Guardian , the annual British Social Attitudes survey of more than 3,500 people , conducted by the National Centre for Social Research , says that Britain today is more Thatcherite than in the 80's .

Another 18 years of it ?

I can believe the findings..but then according to the polls at the time when Thatcher was the most hated PM in history during the 80's she still won three electons for the tories.. Cameron and his multi-millionair cabinet could still pull the wool over the publics eyes.. just like that Thatcher and her wet wimps did in the 80's .;) .

cashman 13-12-2010 21:59

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the reason i believe the findings, are the society Thatcher created,having lived through it, i detest what it did.:(

JCB 14-12-2010 11:09

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 868794)
Mmm that could be 3,500 middle class Guardian readers... but have you heard the saying...

"Lies, damned lies and Statistics..."

Lies, damned lies, and statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you read my quote again you will see that it was not a survey of Guardian readers and was not carried out by the Guardian .


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