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Now I don't want to make this bad weather a political issue.. but where are the government that told us they were prepared for any situation?.. they told us only weeks ago not to worry .. these people and ex high school boys have no idea of the chaos this country is facing.

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Seems you think the 'high school' boys should be out with the brooms and shovels , how about conscripting the dole dossers from under their duvets to do some of the clean up , lets call it work experience :D

You guys need someone like Mama Grizzly (Sarah Palin) , she didn't winge and moan when she was Gov. of Alaska she just sorted the problem.
Never heard such cry babies , we had over 6' of snow over the 'hill' (elevation 7200') into Nevada from California last night and the road is still open and the trucks are still rolling, :D :D

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just had a look at the Arrod (Gt Harwood) web cam and every thing is clear , whats the problem ...
http://studio25.viewnetcam.com:7641/...STD&Language=0

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Trouble is SJ that a bit of snow over here causes major disruptions. Heathrow has been virtually closed since last Friday and there are major problems with the rail and road networks:mad:

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Driving round east Lancs yesterday from 6 am til 8pm. No roads seemed to have been gritted. finally saw gritter at 8 that appeared to be spreading a very thin load - Gritter Lite!

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And Labour did SUCH a good job of it in January now didn't they.....

Oh for a goldfish memory....

Infrastructure takes time to put in place and personal responsibility is a key factor. I put Winter Tyres on my car a couple of weeks ago and they difference in grip is night and day. even on frozen compacted snow getting up teh 1:4 hill to get off teh estate it just grips and goes. Walking round the car park at work ( which is a nice 1 mile stroll at lunch) the number of very expensive prestige cars driving round with nearly bald summer tyres on was daft. I'm not surprised that people get stuck, my only problem is they have a habit of blocking those of us that can get about.

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Getting Desperate now Mancie, scraping the bottom of the stupid barrel now, considering last January everything was rose when Gordon was a the Helm, I see no Ships:silly::silly::silly:

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Its typically British to argue amongst ourselves as to which political party is to blame, rather than concentrating on the real problems. It smacks of arguing how the deck chairs should be arranged on the deck of the Titanic.

Have you noticed how often over the past few years we have suffered "Once in 100 years" or "Once in 50 years" weather? It is time everyone woke up to the fact that extremes of weather are becoming more and more commonplace, whatever the cause.

Also, one of the biggest complaints from travellers is the woeful public relations displayed by airports, airlines and rail operators. A full review of information dissemination is needed, and if the big travel operators aren't prepared to put resources into it, they should be forced to do so.

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Mancie started it:D

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Absolutely but how would you feel if the ConLib spent 300 million on severe winter defences only for it to be mild and wet.. then they would be castigated for spending money unnecessarily....

read this - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12042733

dammed if you do... springs to mind.

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Any of you lot know what the M66 is like? I should be back in Manchester tomorrow where I intend doing a bit of shopping before going on to Accy, by either the X41 or if that's messed up, by train by either Blackburn or Preston.

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its fine mate, drove it this morning, clear both lanes all the way (including the A56 bit from Rammy to Accy ). Buses were running as well as I passed 1

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You mean the Laird of Church is spending Christmas with his minions:D:D

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Cheers Ian - I just hope there ain't a foot of snow before tomorrow afternoon.

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I blame the hose pipe ban

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Not to mention global warming wadey :hothothot:hothothot

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Strange as it sounds, Global Warming( if its exists in the context people generally discuss as opposed to the natural cycles the Earth goes through over millions of years) will make the UK colder. Its complex but basically the ice caps melt which weakens the salinity of the sea which affects the currents, particularly the North Atlantic drift which is what is responsible for keeping the UK and western Europe warmer than would be expected for the latitude that we sit at.


so warmer everywhere else, colder and wetter for us!

Winner!!!!

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There was an expert on Sky News this morning saying the Scandanavians cope better than us because they get a different type of snow. Softer, fluffier and easier to manage. Ours is soggy and slushy.

So now we know! :confused::confused::confused:

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Aye it's a fact, look at the weather reports for ski-ing & such like "powder snow" I believe is the expression.

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Right. It looks like there is a strong possibilty of more snow tomorrow. What happened last week when it came down? Was the M66 shut and if not, how long were the delays?

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The snow forecast is not for the NWest, but since the temps aren't going above freezing, we will still have what has already dropped.

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I'm not into hug a polar bear entwisi;)

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Wel;l we know its the wrong type of snow that stops trains:rolleyes:

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I've seen the forecast and I know that band of snow coming in through N. Wales can move a hundred miles either way North or South; that's why I'm a bit concerned about travel tomorrow from Manchester.

Just remember the record of the Met Office; like last year, they said this was going to be one of the warmest winters on record. They got it completely wrong. If you wonder why, look at their website. Instead of concentrating on the basics, these days they concern themselves more with this old garbage about global warming. They need to get their act togeather and fast.

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that was forecast end of the 6-00 news at 6-30 margaret, just seen the one at 7-00 after N.W.News n shows it snowing here tonight.:eek::confused:

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Well it'll either snow or come light before morning, :Dand we have to remember its the shortest day today, soon be light till ten pm again

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I've just looked at the Met Office infared vision satellite and based upon my calculations and the movement of the weather front from the West you're going to get it any time now.

Check yourself, and follow the progress from this afternoon:

Met Office: British Isles: Infrared satellite imagery

You may wish to check with the visible image from earlier.

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I just checked the old fashioned way, looked out of the window! No snow yet but it might snow later then again it might not.
Just an idea for those of you with Brit Grit, You could fill your pockets up ala The Great Escape, then whilst walking along shake the grit down your trouser legs thus making a safe path to walk on.

I know i'm just getting my coat now.:D:D:D:D

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The Great Escape? If I remember correctly, 50 got shot on the orders of Hitler for their efforts; how many will Britcliffe put against the wall for a scheme such as this?

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and the BBQ Summer

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Never thought of that, don't want to give him ideas. :D:D:D

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He would make a good guard in a POW camp. Do you remember the one in The Great Escape who took bribes in exchange for a 35mm camera? What was his name?

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Well, using the latest forecast for airmen....

2010/12/21 18:15
TAF EGCC 211702Z 2118/2224 03005KT 9999 SCT035
TEMPO 2118/2210 5000 -SN BKN012 PROB30
TEMPO 2120/2206 1500 SN BKN007

Manchester airport, Valid from 18.00 to 24.00 on 22/12/10
Wind north easterly at 5 knots, Visibility more than 10km,
Scattered clouds at 3500ft.
Temporary from 18.00 until 10.00 22/12/10
5000 meters feet visibility with light snow, probability 30%
Temporary from 20.00 until 06.00 22/12/10 1500 meters visibility,
snow, broken cloud at 700 feet


So looks like some snow tonight then:eek:

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The weather right now:
2010/12/21 21:20
EGCC 212120Z 08012KT CAVOK M01/M05 Q1005

Manchester Airport at 21.20, North Easterly wind at 12 Knots, Celling and visibility okay,
Temperature Minus 1 and the Dew point Minus 5, Air pressure 1005 Hectapascals

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Wouldn't it be good if everyone took a bit of responsibilty for the pavement and the road outside their own house?........cleared the footpath and scattered a bit of grit in the road

OK, it wouldn't solve the problems on the motorway or at Heathrow, but it would help our own little part of the world.

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The weather right now just outside my window, no snow and cold !!!!:D:D:D:D:D

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Agree Marg about clearing pavements/roads but in this age of "no claim no blame" folks are sure to be scared of being held responsible if another person breaks a limb. It is obvious to me that our council and other councils also feel this way:( Otherwise why are our pavemants at least not cleared????

As for the problems at Heathrow, our biggest national airport or on the motorways and train networks, it does make me wonder if certain members would be so blase about the problems thousands upon thousands of commuters are facing if they and their families were in the same predicament:mad:

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im just keeping my fingers crossed for spugs coming down on friday morning .. hes leaving home an hour early to make sure he gets down here .... especially now as the east coast line went belly up ... so everyone will be after getting on the west coast ...

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So much fuss over a little winter weather.:rolleyes:

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It might be a little winter weather in Canada, but over here it is out of the ordinary (thank goodness), and we aren't equipped for it.

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BBC Breakfast has been reporting the simple human stories about the weather and how it will affect families getting together for Christmas. There was a young couple with their little baby who cant risk travelling across the country in case they get caught by the weather, and a young boy trapped in Washington who can't get home to his mum for Christmas.

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Bernie, himself clears our pathway and sprinkles grit, and then he sprinkles grit in the road in front of our home........this has broken up the snow there and makes it easier to get the car out.
We do this in case we have to make a flying visit to Ma.

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Think you may well be the first Tealeaf:D

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Don't need ideas he can think of them all on his own Alan:D

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Good grief Margaret your not saying go back to the good old days are you heaven forbid,:rolleyes: after all what do people pay their council tax for :rolleyes:

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Apparently, like last year and the summer before it, the Met Office have got it wrong again. Their forecast for this winter was 1 - 1.5 degrees above normal. Instead, we are looking at the wrong end of the coldest December for 100 years. I was surprised to notice, on crossing the Ribble at Salmesbury, that it was well on its way to freezing over completely.

Piers Corbyn, interesting chap, his brother is an MP, has made quite a name for himself by looking at the way the sun influences our weather and as a result, since 2000, has achieved a forecasting accuracy of something like 85 - 90%. Which, compared to the Met Office's lamentable record, is pretty impressive. Anyway, he reckons that although bad winters do tend to come in threes, this is the start of a longer trend and we are heading into a Mini Ice Age, apparently we are overdue one.

Chuck another shovelful on the fire, Alice!

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I have a picture for that :D

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...ou-do-dont.jpg