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RHFOY 23-12-2010 17:15

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does anyone agree with this? we should have two national lotteries, the midweek one should be for people on an average income of 30k or less, including the unemployed.. this would include 20 wkly prizes off 100k and 10 at 25k, the less well paid could still do the other lottery but not vice versa, this would take people of the dole.

jaysay 23-12-2010 18:00

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870819)
does anyone agree with this? we should have two national lotteries, the midweek one should be for people on an average income of 30k or less, including the unemployed.. this would include 20 wkly prizes off 100k and 10 at 25k, the less well paid could still do the other lottery but not vice versa, this would take people of the dole.

Na lifes a big enough lottery as it is;)

RHFOY 23-12-2010 18:16

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 870834)
Na lifes a big enough lottery as it is;)

well thats true.. but this idea would help the lottery of life by making the less well of and the poor richer, camelot take far to much for other problem areas that need support, we need to look closer to home on things like this... charities could benefit by all businesses having to give a minimum of 20 pound a wk to these NECESSITY,causes, imho..

jaysay 23-12-2010 18:22

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870840)
well that's true.. but this idea would help the lottery of life by making the less well of and the poor richer, camelot take far to much for other problem areas that need support, we need to look closer to home on things like this... charities could benefit by all businesses having to give a minimum of 20 pound a wk to these NECESSITY,causes, imho..

Playing the lottery is a personal choice, you only have to look on here there are a few you have never played the lottery once, I myself have played it every draw since it inspection

lancsdave 23-12-2010 19:30

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870840)
charities could benefit by all businesses having to give a minimum of 20 pound a wk to these NECESSITY,causes, imho..


Is that on top of buying a shovel and grit to clear their own pavements ? :D

RHFOY 23-12-2010 19:34

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 870877)
Is that on top of buying a shovel and grit to clear their own pavements ? :D

salt is cheaper, plus most of us have a shovel in the shed.. somewhere

lancsdave 23-12-2010 19:36

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870880)
salt is cheaper, plus most of us have a shovel in the shed.. somewhere

Most of us also have a brush, should we all sweep the streets too ? :)

MargaretR 23-12-2010 19:39

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I don't like the idea.
The people on low incomes are the ones who can least afford to fritter a few pounds a week on the lottery. It encourages gambling and false hopes - the odds against winning are phenomenal.

Better that they be encouraged to save those few pounds and then buy premium bonds
.....where their money does not disappear into some funding for some project they are never likely to benefit from.

RHFOY 23-12-2010 19:56

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 870883)
Most of us also have a brush, should we all sweep the streets too ? :)

of course not :-)

DaveinGermany 23-12-2010 19:57

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 870884)
It encourages gambling and false hopes - the odds against winning are phenomenal.

I think most are also aware of that, but it's that fantasy, the imagining of what could be if only ! That's folk for you, all with a dream of being a winner, making it big. Part of the reasoning why these "make me famous" programmes have such a following. Personally I can't stand them, I've got enough to do keeping my own life in order & above water than to wonder if Tilly Mint or Fred Basset, will make it to the end & get rich & famous. :o

RHFOY 23-12-2010 20:01

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 870884)
I don't like the idea.
The people on low incomes are the ones who can least afford to fritter a few pounds a week on the lottery. It encourages gambling and false hopes - the odds against winning are phenomenal.

Better that they be encouraged to save those few pounds and then buy premium bonds
.....where their money does not disappear into some funding for some project they are never likely to benefit from.

in my idea all the money goes back into all the local communities in turn and it wont be spent on worthless projects..
maybe im being too ideal here, it must be my altruistic personality...

steeljack 23-12-2010 20:04

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870819)
does anyone agree with this? we should have two national lotteries, the midweek one should be for people on an average income of 30k or less, including the unemployed.. this would include 20 wkly prizes off 100k and 10 at 25k, the less well paid could still do the other lottery but not vice versa, this would take people of the dole.

thought the aim of unemployment benefit was supposed to be a temporary bridge to cover hard times between jobs , not to support a lifestyle , I'm thinking the lottery is a bit of a luxury, not something the founders of the Welfare State had in mind at its creation :eek:

RHFOY 23-12-2010 20:10

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 870890)
I think most are also aware of that, but it's that fantasy, the imagining of what could be if only ! That's folk for you, all with a dream of being a winner, making it big. Part of the reasoning why these "make me famous" programmes have such a following. Personally I can't stand them, I've got enough to do keeping my own life in order & above water than to wonder if Tilly Mint or Fred Basset, will make it to the end & get rich & famous. :o

with a lottery for the working class or poor the poorer get richer and what they spend ringing in and voting could be spent on lottery tickets in their community even rather than nationally, ie if 1million was won in accy every wk and every wk we had 10 winners at 100k each im sure when the community as 360 winners in 6 months, it would be a roaring success.
example.. sadly this xmas is going to be a low key affair and the kids in some households will not be receiving gifts from santa?? could you have imagined the number of tickets sold last night on the accy community lottery??? today the town would have 10 more 100k winners,,

RHFOY 23-12-2010 20:13

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 870893)
thought the aim of unemployment benefit was supposed to be a temporary bridge to cover hard times between jobs , not to support a lifestyle , I'm thinking the lottery is a bit of a luxury, not something the founders of the Welfare State had in mind at its creation :eek:

im sure i mentioned folk under 30k.. and lots of people are on benefits at no fault of their own,, and an 100k win would have 10 off the dole if they were all onit every wk, thats 520 a year, and alot off very happy people..

cashman 23-12-2010 20:19

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would never work, people on benefits, or earning under 30k, would need to be able to prove the fact fer starters, then some bright spark in government would proclaim, reduce benefits, they can afford to squander it.;)

Less 23-12-2010 20:26

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870819)
does anyone agree with this? we should have two national lotteries, the midweek one should be for people on an average income of 30k or less, including the unemployed.. this would include 20 wkly prizes off 100k and 10 at 25k, the less well paid could still do the other lottery but not vice versa, this would take people of the dole.

Well I don't agree with it.
The lottery is an even field the only stipulations are:-

To be in it you must pay your money & to win it you must be lucky.

Let's keep it like that eh?

Retlaw 23-12-2010 21:53

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870892)
in my idea all the money goes back into all the local communities in turn and it wont be spent on worthless projects..
maybe im being too ideal here, it must be my altruistic personality...

Sounds good in theory, but too many would jump on the band wagon, setting up committees, and milking the funds before the projects were even decided on.
Instead of 1 20, million quid winner, have 20 1 million quid winners.
Who among the working classes can handle 1 million quid sensibly, never mind 20 million quid.
Retlaw

walkinman221 23-12-2010 21:57

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 870930)
Sounds good in theory, but too many would jump on the band wagon, setting up committees, and milking the funds before the projects were even decided on.
Instead of 1 20, million quid winner, have 20 1 million quid winners.
Who among the working classes can handle 1 million quid sensibly, never mind 20 million quid.
Retlaw

I agree retlaw the prize distribution on the lottery is s*** its all or nothing in that the jackpot prize is big and the next tier down is quite large but anything below 5 numbers plus the bonus is a bit low in my opinon.

garinda 23-12-2010 22:31

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870880)
salt is cheaper, plus most of us have a shovel in the shed.. somewhere

Somewhere?

Don't you know where your shed is?

A good place to start looking is in your garden.

Worth a punt.

;)

RHFOY 23-12-2010 23:35

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 870939)
Somewhere?

Don't you know where your shed is?

A good place to start looking is in your garden.

Worth a punt.

;)

hahaha, well i do love the wit on here ..:-)

RHFOY 23-12-2010 23:37

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 870931)
I agree retlaw the prize distribution on the lottery is s*** its all or nothing in that the jackpot prize is big and the next tier down is quite large but anything below 5 numbers plus the bonus is a bit low in my opinon.

ive been saying that for years, cap the winner at 3million, and increase the other prizes like you say more millions to winners...

garinda 23-12-2010 23:45

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870960)
hahaha, well i do love the wit on here ..:-)

That's karma then, because on here we love the witless.

jaysay 24-12-2010 09:20

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870892)
altruistic personality...

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Benipete 24-12-2010 11:37

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Winning the lottery is quite simple.All you have to do is pick 43 numbers that won't be drawn out and then choose the other 6.

Simples.:mosher::D:D

jaysay 24-12-2010 13:02

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 871079)
Winning the lottery is quite simple.All you have to do is pick 43 numbers that won't be drawn out and then choose the other 6.

Simples.:mosher::D:D

Now why didn't I think of that Beni:D

Ken Moss 29-12-2010 08:41

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 870884)
I don't like the idea.
The people on low incomes are the ones who can least afford to fritter a few pounds a week on the lottery. It encourages gambling and false hopes - the odds against winning are phenomenal.

Better that they be encouraged to save those few pounds and then buy premium bonds
.....where their money does not disappear into some funding for some project they are never likely to benefit from.

I'm fully with you there, Margaret.

We've started investing in Premium Bonds and have already won two £50 prizes in 18 months, a damn sight more than we would have won on the Lottery plus we still have our original stake too.

On top of the prizes we have also managed to pay for most of the renovations to our house with money we didn't miss each month.

Less 29-12-2010 10:34

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 871896)
On top of the prizes we have also managed to pay for most of the renovations to our house with money we didn't miss each month.

Hmmm, should a prominent local Councillor admit in public that his household finances are so sloppy that, what for most would be a large percentage of their income isn't missed, does that mean is unaccounted for? If the answer is yes, I do hope you aren't ever given responsibility for any of the Borough's outgoings!
:eek:

jaysay 29-12-2010 17:01

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 871915)
Hmmm, should a prominent local Councillor admit in public that his household finances are so sloppy that, what for most would be a large percentage of their income isn't missed, does that mean is unaccounted for? If the answer is yes, I do hope you aren't ever given responsibility for any of the Borough's outgoings!
:eek:

Calm down Less when Kens in charge he'll have a magic wand:rolleyes:

Ken Moss 31-12-2010 09:04

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 871915)
Hmmm, should a prominent local Councillor admit in public that his household finances are so sloppy that, what for most would be a large percentage of their income isn't missed, does that mean is unaccounted for? If the answer is yes, I do hope you aren't ever given responsibility for any of the Borough's outgoings!
:eek:

13 years of Labour rule have left us in a shocking state....

It does surprise me that Premium Bonds aren't given more advertising as many of the younger people I know have absolutely no idea what they are. I was explaining it to my nephew over Christmas and he couldn't get his head round the fact that you can win a prize but still have your original stake too.

Investing in the country's fund will always be more attractive to me than Camelot's self-serving pot.

jaysay 31-12-2010 09:30

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 872236)

Investing in the country's fund will always be more attractive to me than Camelot's self-serving pot.

What about all the good causes then:rolleyes:

Ken Moss 31-12-2010 09:33

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 872247)
What about all the good causes then:rolleyes:

True, but I believe just over 45% of the total money paid in is paid back out. Quite high running costs in my book, and I would question how Camelot came to the brink of financial disaster whilst the directors have enjoyed enormous wealth increases since the lottery began.

How Branson lost his bid at the eleventh hour smells decidely fishy to me.

jaysay 31-12-2010 09:46

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 872248)
True, but I believe just over 45% of the total money paid in is paid back out. Quite high running costs in my book, and I would question how Camelot came to the brink of financial disaster whilst the directors have enjoyed enormous wealth increases since the lottery began.

How Branson lost his bid at the eleventh hour smells decidely fishy to me.

So do a lot of things if you go fishing:D

DaveinGermany 31-12-2010 12:03

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 872247)
What about all the good causes then:rolleyes:

That ..... needs taking with a bucketful of Salt ! Who exactly decides what a good cause is or isn't ? I'm pretty sure my ideas are different to others & therein lies the problem.

garinda 31-12-2010 15:39

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 872273)
That ..... needs taking with a bucketful of Salt ! Who exactly decides what a good cause is or isn't ? I'm pretty sure my ideas are different to others & therein lies the problem.

Some of the crochet, flash mob, swimming gala money was from the Lotto, topped up with tax payers' money.

You can't argue those aren't 'worthy causes'.

Could you?

:D

Less 31-12-2010 15:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 872313)
Some of the crochet, flash mob, swimming gala money was from the Lotto, topped up with tax payers' money.

You can't argue those aren't 'worthy causes'.

Could you?

:D

Ah, you are using humour mode, a dangerous thing on AccyWeb you will be called to the office.

jaysay 01-01-2011 09:29

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 872318)
Ah, you are using humour mode, a dangerous thing on AccyWeb you will be called to the office.

Who's on duty today Less:rolleyes:

Neil 04-01-2011 14:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 872437)
Who's on duty today Less:rolleyes:

No one so have a riot :D

Neil 04-01-2011 14:05

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 870883)
Most of us also have a brush, should we all sweep the streets too ? :)

Yes outside your own house why not? Unless you have no pride on the appearance of your home/business that is.

jaysay 04-01-2011 14:37

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 873180)
No one so have a riot :D

Now ya tell us:D

Neil 04-01-2011 14:58

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You must be getting old. I was busy over New Year and was not on for a couple of days, Mick is only on in the morning and Mel is busy with the rabble on the dark side of the forum.


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