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lindsay ormerod 21-01-2011 19:30
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I would imagine so, presumably you pay business rates, same as a householder paying council tax, you are entitled to some facilities! Not sure who has jurisdiction over the town centre, best to ask our esteemed leader, or maybe even the Mayor?

lancsdave 21-01-2011 19:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 877327)
presumably you pay business rates, same as a householder paying council tax,
Yep as an Accrington resident and trader we pay twice for our illustrious council :rolleyes:

flashy 21-01-2011 20:05
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when the shutters went up on the Regency did they already have graffiti on them?

lancsdave 21-01-2011 20:19
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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 877342)
when the shutters went up on the Regency did they already have graffiti on them?

You can't tell off my photos but they were definatley used before shutters. Didn't notice if they were worse today than when they went up

flashy 21-01-2011 20:42
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i went by there today and there's some on, thats why i asked, didn't know if it was new or not

Margaret Pilkington 21-01-2011 21:10
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I went off the Manchester on Tuesday and noticed that Shoezone in the Arndale is also closing for a refit(allegedly).

lancsdave 21-01-2011 21:36
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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 877351)
i went by there today and there's some on, thats why i asked, didn't know if it was new or not
I'll see if it looks any different in the morning but I suspect the mess you saw is the mess they put up

lancsdave 21-01-2011 21:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 877358)
I went off the Manchester on Tuesday and noticed that Shoezone in the Arndale is also closing for a refit(allegedly).

Shoezone on Broadway :)

lindsay ormerod 21-01-2011 22:15
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I looked and that graffiti wasn't there when they boarded up, also some now that looks to be inside the building on the top floor.

jaysay 22-01-2011 09:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 877362)
I'll see if it looks any different in the morning but I suspect the mess you saw is the mess they put up
Will probable be old graffiti if it reads Kilroy was here:rolleyes:

lancsdave 22-01-2011 09:14
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Well between us this morning we have hatched a plan to cause National embarrasment to Hyndburn Council if the decision isn't reversed. Watch this space :D

jaysay 22-01-2011 09:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 877428)
Well between us this morning we have hatched a plan to cause National embarrasment to Hyndburn Council if the decision isn't reversed. Watch this space :D
Make sure it doesn't backfire and make Hyndburn the embarrassment:rolleyes:

lancsdave 22-01-2011 09:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 877430)
Make sure it doesn't backfire and make Hyndburn the embarrassment:rolleyes:

The council are causing the embarrasment :rolleyes:

Ken Moss 22-01-2011 09:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 877298)
Out of curioisty does anybody know if this would come under a councillor(s) remit ?
Probably not one single councillor but it will have been a decision made by the controlling group at some point. I'm not sure who would be the councillor to ask but Cllrs Dobson and Clarke are on the Accrington Town Centre Regeneration Board and Cllr Marlene Haworth is portfolio holder for Resources:

Councillors - View by name

I've sent a request to find out where and when the decision was taken but there is nothing to stop any member of the public from doing the same.

Margaret Pilkington 22-01-2011 15:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 877363)
Shoezone on Broadway :)
Yes I know, Lancs dave, but I was just saying that the one in the Arndale had exactly the same signs up........so it seemed just a bit 'fishy' to me......closing down for a refit.....Closing down for good?

lancsdave 23-01-2011 14:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 877501)
Yes I know, Lancs dave, but I was just saying that the one in the Arndale had exactly the same signs up........so it seemed just a bit 'fishy' to me......closing down for a refit.....Closing down for good?
I didn't realise they still had one in the Arndale.

Accroding to the manageress of the Broadway one I spoke to yesterday, they are closing next Saturday for 6 days, re-opening the following Saturday. We shall see :rolleyes:

lancsdave 23-01-2011 14:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 877437)
Probably not one single councillor but it will have been a decision made by the controlling group at some point. I'm not sure who would be the councillor to ask but Cllrs Dobson and Clarke are on the Accrington Town Centre Regeneration Board and Cllr Marlene Haworth is portfolio holder for Resources:

Councillors - View by name

I've sent a request to find out where and when the decision was taken but there is nothing to stop any member of the public from doing the same.

Thanks Ken. I believe it's being taken up by a representative of the traders, we will see what happens. I understand it's a decision made by Cllr Haworth. What she hopes to achieve by it I have no idea :mad:

garinda 23-01-2011 14:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 877604)
Thanks Ken. I believe it's being taken up by a representative of the traders, we will see what happens. I understand it's a decision made by Cllr Haworth. What she hopes to achieve by it I have no idea :mad:
Perhaps after her success with the Market Hall, she's planning to limit the amount of days residents can pee.

MargaretR 23-01-2011 15:02
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......she may have shares in Tena pads

garinda 23-01-2011 16:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 877614)
......she may have shares in Tena pads
In which case they'll be a Tena, plus fifty pee tax.

:D

jaysay 24-01-2011 09:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 877631)
In which case they'll be a Tena, plus fifty pee tax.

:D
Would have to be far more than that if people have been out on the lash:D

Ken Moss 25-01-2011 07:09
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What Accrington Town Centre could do with is some form of masterplan to attract some of the bigger retailers. There seems to be permanent whispering going on about the Arndale Centre but no actual progress so that could do with sorting out. The odd 'big hitter' popping up for six months and then closing isn't going to be much good on its own so we need a few at once to try and get more people shopping there again.

I've spent a fair bit of time in Accy this past six months and as someone who hasn't grown up here I'm not as critical as those who have watched its decline. That isn't to say that there isn't room for plenty of improvement but it isn't quite the hole that some of you seem to think.

It always manages to get money out of me each time I visit, all that counts surely?

cashman 25-01-2011 07:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 877882)
What Accrington Town Centre could do with is some form of masterplan to attract some of the bigger retailers. There seems to be permanent whispering going on about the Arndale Centre but no actual progress so that could do with sorting out. The odd 'big hitter' popping up for six months and then closing isn't going to be much good on its own so we need a few at once to try and get more people shopping there again.

I've spent a fair bit of time in Accy this past six months and as someone who hasn't grown up here I'm not as critical as those who have watched its decline. That isn't to say that there isn't room for plenty of improvement but it isn't quite the hole that some of you seem to think.

It always manages to get money out of me each time I visit, all that counts surely?
always gets money outa me ken, trouble is wi that there aint enough of us, hence traders keep closing.:eek:

jaysay 25-01-2011 09:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 877882)
What Accrington Town Centre could do with is some form of masterplan to attract some of the bigger retailers. There seems to be permanent whispering going on about the Arndale Centre but no actual progress so that could do with sorting out. The odd 'big hitter' popping up for six months and then closing isn't going to be much good on its own so we need a few at once to try and get more people shopping there again.

I've spent a fair bit of time in Accy this past six months and as someone who hasn't grown up here I'm not as critical as those who have watched its decline. That isn't to say that there isn't room for plenty of improvement but it isn't quite the hole that some of you seem to think.

It always manages to get money out of me each time I visit, all that counts surely?
Maybe, just maybe, if money had been spent on the Town Centre instead of the Globe Centre, things may not have been as bad as they are now, the demise of Accy town centre started long before 2000

Ken Moss 25-01-2011 09:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 877900)
Maybe, just maybe, if money had been spent on the Town Centre instead of the Globe Centre, things may not have been as bad as they are now, the demise of Accy town centre started long before 2000
I can't really comment on that as it was long before my time but we've been told to stop parking on The Globe Centre car park because there isn't enough room for the new staff as well as HBC employees.

Can't be too bad an investment?

jaysay 25-01-2011 09:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 877904)
I can't really comment on that as it was long before my time but we've been told to stop parking on The Globe Centre car park because there isn't enough room for the new staff as well as HBC employees.

Can't be too bad an investment?
Ken there was nothing wrong with the concept of the Globe Centre at all, my argument at the time was to use the money raised by the sale of council assets on the Town Centre and use private finance on the Globe Centre, I had many an argument with Nigel Rix on this front, but he wouldn't have it

Ken Moss 25-01-2011 09:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 877916)
Ken there was nothing wrong with the concept of the Globe Centre at all, my argument at the time was to use the money raised by the sale of council assets on the Town Centre and use private finance on the Globe Centre, I had many an argument with Nigel Rix on this front, but he wouldn't have it
Never heard of the bloke until this morning, but the smallest amount of digging has given me another glimpse of Hyndburn's past.

jaysay 25-01-2011 10:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 877923)
Never heard of the bloke until this morning, but the smallest amount of digging has given me another glimpse of Hyndburn's past.
Look and learn Ken, look and learn:rolleyes:

Acrylic-bob 25-01-2011 16:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 877882)
What Accrington Town Centre could do with is some form of masterplan to attract some of the bigger retailers.
I seem to recall the Idiot in Chief splashing out oodles of cash on just such a plan a couple of years ago, commissioned from some flash Manchester agency. Can it be that it is out of date so soon?

One of the main problems is that the bog standard response of the council and private landlords to falling revenues is to raise rents. The creation of a trading zone in the centre of town where rents and business rates are limited would have a profound effect on the viability and longevity of business start-ups and make Accrington once more into an attractive business proposition. And don't tell me it can't be done, there are ways and means around every legal obstacle (rate holidays, rent holidays, rent subsidies, etc etc). The Council should be the primary enabler when it comes to business, not the major hurdle.

Acrylic-bob 25-01-2011 16:14
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Does anyone know what happened to the Supermarket that was going to be added on to the side of the Arndale? Or was that just another Pipe dream?

garinda 25-01-2011 16:14
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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 878013)
And don't tell me it can't be done, there are ways and means around every legal obstacle (rate holidays, rent holidays, rent subsidies, etc etc).
They can do it, when they want to.

'Boyd Hargreaves, Oswaldtwistle Mills managing director, said: "The Woolworths deal has worked really well for both parties. We were given a fantastic deal and our occupancy over the last 18 months has been commercially profitable for us.'

Future looking brighter as new store moves into town - Accrington Observer

:rolleyes:

katex 25-01-2011 16:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 878014)
Does anyone know what happened to the Supermarket that was going to be added on to the side of the Arndale? Or was that just another Pipe dream?
Was going to be a Sainsburys A-B .. but once Tesco got planning permisson, they threw in the towel .. I thought this was a much better proposition to be honest. A different type to Asda and being attached to the Arndale, would at least encourage people into the Arndale and across to the market. :(

Acrylic-bob 25-01-2011 16:58
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Thanks for that Katex, I guess there really is a limit to how many supermarkets one town can support.

Neil 26-01-2011 09:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 877428)
Well between us this morning we have hatched a plan to cause National embarrasment to Hyndburn Council if the decision isn't reversed. Watch this space :D
I can imagine how the conversation went :rolleyes:


Quote:
Dave: I have a plan, Mel.
Mel: Really Dave? A cunning and subtle one?
Dave: Yes Mel.
Mel: As cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University?
Dave: Yes Mel.

Neil 26-01-2011 09:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 878015)
They can do it, when they want to.

'Boyd Hargreaves, Oswaldtwistle Mills managing director, said: "The Woolworths deal has worked really well for both parties. We were given a fantastic deal and our occupancy over the last 18 months has been commercially profitable for us.'

Future looking brighter as new store moves into town - Accrington Observer

:rolleyes:
I thought that had shut down now

cashman 26-01-2011 09:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 878209)
I thought that had shut down now
it has n theres a crappy clothes store now.:rolleyes:

garinda 26-01-2011 10:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 878209)
I thought that had shut down now
Like Cashy said, it has.

They thanked HBC for the generous financial benefits they'd received, when they moved out.

Lucky Ossy Mills.

Other town centre traders don't similarly benefit from tax breaks, reduced rents, and not paying business rates.

lancsdave 26-01-2011 10:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 878208)
I can imagine how the conversation went :rolleyes:
The conversation wasn't between us ;)

lancsdave 26-01-2011 10:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 878238)
Other town centre traders don't similarly benefit from tax breaks, reduced rents, and not paying business rates.
There is actually a rate reduction on at the moment, from October 2010 - October 2011. However it's Government led not council led.

Ken Moss 28-01-2011 07:11
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 877256)
I've heard that.

Cost cutting, as there are toilets in the Market Hall.

Not much use as you wait for a bus, on a dark and wet winter's night.
It hasn't actually gone down too well with the bus drivers who use it for their own comfort breaks, a few complaints have already gone in. The nearest alternative means leaving the vehicle unattended for around 10 minutes.

I'm loving the well thought through nature of the Conservative cost cutting.

lancsdave 28-01-2011 08:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 878571)
It hasn't actually gone down too well with the bus drivers who use it for their own comfort breaks, a few complaints have already gone in. The nearest alternative means leaving the vehicle unattended for around 10 minutes.

I'm loving the well thought through nature of the Conservative cost cutting.

Apart from a small amount of electricity there is no costs being saved. The same people who check the toilets a couple of times a day now are still being employed. The real reason is to increase footfall for a very select few people at the expense of other shopkeepers and ( pardon the pun ) the inconvenience of the aforementioned bus drivers and general public.

lancsdave 29-01-2011 12:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 877437)
I've sent a request to find out where and when the decision was taken but there is nothing to stop any member of the public from doing the same.

Did you get any response yet ?

Ken Moss 30-01-2011 07:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 878930)
Did you get any response yet ?
No, not yet.

The only problem with FOI is that it takes up to 20 working days to get a response. I'm fairly sure there's a quicker way of finding out some things and I need to have a word with Member Services up at HBC, they've been extremely helpful so far.

lancsdave 01-02-2011 08:26
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I notcied this morning one of the large Choices units in the Arcade has now closed down. The others look a bit sparse so not sure what they are doing.

Bernard Dawson 01-02-2011 08:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 879713)
I notcied this morning one of the large Choices units in the Arcade has now closed down. The others look a bit sparse so not sure what they are doing.
I've heard that they may well be moving Dave. Not good news.

flashy 01-02-2011 09:15
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Netto is closing down either this week or next week, to make way for Morrisons

garinda 01-02-2011 16:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 879713)
I notcied this morning one of the large Choices units in the Arcade has now closed down. The others look a bit sparse so not sure what they are doing.
The entrance to the Victorian arcade now looks terrible.

To save rent they've consolidated all their stock in the other shop.

Some traders are trying to pursuade the landlord to at least let then dress the window, whilst it's empty, so it doesn't look quite so run down.

Less 01-02-2011 16:43
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 879805)
The entrance to the Victorian arcade now looks terrible.

To save rent they've consolidated all their stock in the other shop.

Some traders are trying to pursuade the landlord to at least let then dress the window, whilst it's empty, so it doesn't look quite so run down.
Perhaps they need a coffee shop with toilet facilities?

Ken Moss 21-02-2011 08:13
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 878930)
Did you get any response yet ?
Still nothing, plus we appear to be suffering from the curse of the missing posts.

Does it have anything to do with this?

Attachment 17486

BERNADETTE 21-02-2011 08:17
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Have heard a rumour that there are plans in the pipe-line to have a "wine bar/bistro" in the Victorian Arcade. The plan is to knock three or four units into one to achieve this, the thing is these are listed buildings. Would you just be allowed to knock them through given their listed status??

garinda 21-02-2011 08:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 885562)
Have heard a rumour that there are plans in the pipe-line to have a "wine bar/bistro" in the Victorian Arcade. The plan is to knock three or four units into one to achieve this, the thing is these are listed buildings. Would you just be allowed to knock them through given their listed status??
Plus, aren't the gates to the arcade closed at night?

garinda 21-02-2011 08:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 885561)
Still nothing, plus we appear to be suffering from the curse of the missing posts.

Does it have anything to do with this?

Attachment 17486
Which missing posts?

Give us a clue, without risking them disappearing.

Tealeaf 21-02-2011 08:26
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This is interesting. Is the Victorian Arcade going upmarket? Is it going to be Accy's answer to Mayfair's Burlington Arcade? If so, will it have a Beagle? (thats a bloke who dresses like an idiot with a top hat and threatens you with arrest if you whistle as you walk through).

If so, could I nominate Garinda for the role?

garinda 21-02-2011 08:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 885565)
This is interesting. Is the Victorian Arcade going upmarket? Is it going to be Accy's answer to Mayfair's Burlington Arcade? If so, will it have a Beagle? (thats a bloke who dresses like an idiot with a top hat and threatens you with arrest if you whistle as you walk through).

If so, could I nominate Garinda for the role?
My, my.

You have suprised me.

You, being able to do three things at once.

Walk, whistle, and sell whelks, all at the same time.

Ken Moss 21-02-2011 08:32
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885564)
Which missing posts?

Give us a clue, without risking them disappearing.
My suggestion that The Britcliffe Arms proposed earlier in a post which has also disappeared should be replaced by The Gogogadget Arms.

Possibly DIC Entertainment have been on about copyright?

garinda 21-02-2011 08:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 885561)

All I remember about the film Peter's Friends was Emma Thompson wanting Peter to fill her with his 'little babies'.

Perhaps all Peters have such accommodating friends, willing to bend over backwards, in order to please them.

:rolleyes:

Mick 21-02-2011 08:39
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Right just been right through the thread and i think some members should do the same before accusing that posts have disappeared NOT ONE post has been removed in this thread.
you might have posted in other threads so please check

jaysay 21-02-2011 08:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 885562)
Have heard a rumour that there are plans in the pipe-line to have a "wine bar/bistro" in the Victorian Arcade. The plan is to knock three or four units into one to achieve this, the thing is these are listed buildings. Would you just be allowed to knock them through given their listed status??
I would imagine that if this is true Bernie, so long as they don't change the outside appearance of the units it wouldn't contravene any listed status, but I'm not totally sure

garinda 21-02-2011 08:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 885570)
I would imagine that if this is true Bernie, so long as they don't change the outside appearance of the units it wouldn't contravene any listed status, but I'm not totally sure
True.

The units which were used for the catalogue returns, were all knocked through already.

You could walk through at least three of them.

jaysay 21-02-2011 08:47
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885571)
True.

The units which were used for the catalogue returns, were all knocked through already.

You could walk through at least three of them.
Wasn't 100% sure G but I thought the listed status only covered the inside of a property, but I think there must be other thing which would have to be adhered to on the inside too, but there again not too sure

Ken Moss 21-02-2011 08:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 885570)
I would imagine that if this is true Bernie, so long as they don't change the outside appearance of the units it wouldn't contravene any listed status, but I'm not totally sure
I'm led to believe that it isn't quite so simple. Cllr Marlene Haworth indicated that they couldn't widen the upper balconies of the Market Hall because of the listed status of the building.

garinda 21-02-2011 08:51
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The arcade needs something radical.

It looks terrible, with so many empty units inside.

It should be the jewel in the town's crown.

Perhaps if a newish cafe opens it's second branch in there, it will be.

:rolleyes:

Mick 21-02-2011 08:55
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If you want to know more about listed buildings check this Heritage link
Listing and Designation | English Heritage

Ken Moss 21-02-2011 08:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885576)
The arcade needs something radical.

It looks terrible, with so many empty units inside.

It should be the jewel in the town's crown.

Perhaps if a newish cafe opens it's second branch in there, it will be.

:rolleyes:
Similar to the one which isn't owned by the Leader of the Council, no sir no way?

jaysay 21-02-2011 09:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 885575)
I'm led to believe that it isn't quite so simple. Cllr Marlene Haworth indicated that they couldn't widen the upper balconies of the Market Hall because of the listed status of the building.
Ya Ken but that's a little different, if you get my drift, the inside balcony may well be covered, as I said in my original post there will probably be some inside structures which be covered, in the case of the balcony I can quite see the point, its like inside but an out side facet which adds to the overall look

lancsdave 21-02-2011 09:14
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There's already a wine bar outside the Market Hall doors.




ooops sorry it's not a bar it's a bench :)

garinda 21-02-2011 09:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 885589)
There's already a wine bar outside the Market Hall doors.




ooops sorry it's not a bar it's a bench :)
That's the European style plaza.

Sadly, because it's nearly always in the shade, and the wind whistles down through there, the planned al fresco cafes didn't materialise.

Though we do have the wine bar as you say.

If you sit there, you'll always get helpful advice from one of the sommeliers.

Usually telling you that that seat is reserved, for one of the regular clients.

:D

lancsdave 22-02-2011 08:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 885561)
Still nothing,
We can only assume they have something to hide :rolleyes:

jaysay 22-02-2011 09:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 885897)
We can only assume they have something to hide :rolleyes:
If I didn't know you better Dave I'd think you were a cynic:rolleyes:

lancsdave 22-02-2011 09:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 885918)
If I didn't know you better Dave I'd think you were a cynic:rolleyes:

Nah, just honest :D

jaysay 22-02-2011 09:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 885920)
Nah, just honest :D
:gooddog:

BERNADETTE 22-02-2011 10:21
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Counted eight empty shops just on one side of Little Blackburn Road yesterday. When are the council going to do something to try and alleviate this problem? The town is a bigger eyesore every time you look round

Stanleymad 22-02-2011 10:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 885948)
Counted eight empty shops just on one side of Little Blackburn Road yesterday. When are the council going to do something to try and alleviate this problem? The town is a bigger eyesore every time you look round
Problem is that they are too busy pandering to the market hall and forgot theres other equally needed businesses around the town that need encouragement or help. Accy is becoming one huge mess:(

Neil 22-02-2011 10:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 885948)
Counted eight empty shops just on one side of Little Blackburn Road yesterday. When are the council going to do something to try and alleviate this problem? The town is a bigger eyesore every time you look round
How long before they knock down the town centre and build houses on it?

Barrie Yates 22-02-2011 11:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 885948)
Counted eight empty shops just on one side of Little Blackburn Road yesterday. When are the council going to do something to try and alleviate this problem? The town is a bigger eyesore every time you look round
Thought it was a competition - Market Hall v Town Centre shops - which has got the most vacant premises/stalls:rolleyes:

cashman 22-02-2011 13:03
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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 885963)
Thought it was a competition - Market Hall v Town Centre shops - which has got the most vacant premises/stalls:rolleyes:
The arndale is comin up fast on the rails.:rolleyes:

heth 22-02-2011 14:32
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 879713)
I notcied this morning one of the large Choices units in the Arcade has now closed down. The others look a bit sparse so not sure what they are doing.
Ere you go Dave, nowt in there about planning any more shops/bistro's in the near future though........

Fears for future of Accrington's ?deserted? arcade (From Lancashire Telegraph)

garinda 22-02-2011 14:44
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There is one new shop opening.

Lady Clitheroe's on Union Street.

Says 'High class clothes at bargain prices'.

Let's just hope it's not another Frocky Horror Show.

garinda 23-02-2011 09:17
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885576)
The arcade needs something radical.

It looks terrible, with so many empty units inside.

It should be the jewel in the town's crown.

Perhaps if a newish cafe opens it's second branch in there, it will be.
'A TOWN centre shopping arcade is more than half-empty, leaving just three traders in business.'

'Accrington’s Victorian Arcade has nine empty units after traders left the listed building and one major retailer downgraded from six units to one.'

Fears for future of Accrington's ?deserted? arcade (From This Is Lancashire)

:(

heth 23-02-2011 09:40
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You not read my post #177 G??? :D

garinda 23-02-2011 10:25
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Originally Posted by heth (Post 886374)
You not read my post #177 G??? :D
Sorry.

Was posting at the same time, and was busy trying to find any photographs of Lady Clitheroe's Frocky Horrors.

:D

heth 23-02-2011 10:31
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ahh only messing G!!! :D

Less 23-02-2011 11:16
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 885589)
There's already a wine bar outside the Market Hall doors.




ooops sorry it's not a bar it's a bench :)
The toilet closures haven't effected them either, they don't mind sitting in a wet patch.
:)

phil8715 26-02-2011 20:54
I have sent a suggestion to Wetherspoons Facebook group for the Regency as a Wetherspoons pub. Accrington needs a wetherspoons pub.

On the subject of the closure of the toilets on Peel Street, I didn't know the law had been changed to allow urinating in public which will happen if HBC don't reverse this.

Surely it should be kept open for bus drivers to take comfort breaks.

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lancsdave 26-02-2011 20:59
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Originally Posted by phil8715 (Post 887635)
On the subject of the closure of the toilets on Peel Street, I didn't know the law had been changed to allow urinating in public which will happen if HBC don't reverse this.

Will happen ? They already do. Was talking to the cafe on Peel St today, people have started using the alley round the back as a public toilet and it's not just urinating :eek:

Mind you if the council leader can crap on everybody then surely his citizens can do it where they want :mad:

phil8715 26-02-2011 21:33
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HBC won't be happy till every shop in Accrrington has shut, given the size of Accrington that won't be very long.

garinda 26-02-2011 22:05
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 887636)
Mind you if the council leader can crap on everybody then surely his citizens can do it where they want :mad:
I hope he does remain as Leader of the Council, after the May elections.

If he lost control, he'd have more time on his hands, and would probably take a more active role on Accy Web.

He might decide to become a moderator, which would put a spanner in the works, for all of you who are vile and vicious to him on here.

:D

lancsdave 26-02-2011 22:06
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887647)
He might decide to become a moderator, which would put a spanner in the works, for all of you who are vile and vicious to him on here.

:D
At least it will be peaceful in our house if there is another moderator to wind up :D

jaysay 27-02-2011 09:24
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887647)
I hope he does remain as Leader of the Council, after the May elections.

If he lost control, he'd have more time on his hands, and would probably take a more active role on Accy Web.

He might decide to become a moderator, which would put a spanner in the works, for all of you who are vile and vicious to him on here.

:D
Don't hold your breathe G:rolleyes:

jaysay 27-02-2011 09:26
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 887648)
At least it will be peaceful in our house if there is another moderator to wind up :D
Ya pays your money and ya playes your cards Dave:D

garinda 27-02-2011 09:28
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 887698)
Don't hold your breathe G:rolleyes:
I'm a pearl diver.

It's part and parcel of what I do.

;)

Margaret Pilkington 27-02-2011 09:50
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 885952)
How long before they knock down the town centre and build houses on it?
Don't give them ideas Neil...sell them to them instead.....:D

jaysay 27-02-2011 10:23
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887702)
I'm a pearl diver.

It's part and parcel of what I do.

;)
Be careful your not tempted to dive for a penny wrapped in silver paper:rolleyes:

garinda 27-02-2011 10:27
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 887738)
Be careful your not tempted to dive for a penny wrapped in silver paper:rolleyes:
My middle name's Cupid, not Stupid. ;)


:Banane41:

jaysay 27-02-2011 11:07
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887741)
My middle name's Cupid, not Stupid. ;)


:Banane41:
Harold had a problem with arrows you know:rolleyes:

garinda 27-02-2011 11:10
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 887768)
Harold had a problem with arrows you know:rolleyes:
Did he?

I was always tucked up in my cot, by the time Steptoe came on.

;)

jaysay 27-02-2011 11:28
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887770)
Did he?

I was always tucked up in my cot, by the time Steptoe came on.

;)
I had a rye smile picturing that scene:D:D

BOB 28-02-2011 15:55
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black horse pub being boarded up today another one bites the dust

Barrie Yates 28-02-2011 16:09
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 887768)
Harold had a problem with arrows you know:rolleyes:
Only 'cos he couldn't keep his eye off them:D

lancsdave 02-03-2011 18:34
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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 875064)
Not directly Town Centre but the Boars Head has been boarded up for a few weeks too!

Noticed they were delivering machines today and the shutters are down, presumably it''s reopened or is due to


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