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Mikejoed 28-01-2011 15:19

Appreciating our past benefactors
 
In a modern world where 'Please' and 'Thank you' are rarely part of the vocabulary; and so many facilities are taken forgranted by the younger generation, I do wonder how much of their attitude is down to us older folk. After all, if we don't promote what we know, how can we expect it to be appreciated?

My case in point concerns one of Accrington's greatest benefactors from the mid 1800s - Mr. Benjamin Hargreaves. If we were to record all that he did for Accrington and its people we would be a very long time. Known affectionately as 'Mr. Benjamin' in the town, he never tired of helping the poor and supporting those institutions that benefitted them.

As well as taking a lead in providing the Town Hall, Benjamin Hargreaves was the first President and prime supporter of the library. He almost single handedly provided the funding for St. John's Church and was a man of great benevolence in his support of several other religious establishments in the Town. As one of the Town's main employers, he was most respected by his employees. As it is recorded, rather than accumulate wealth from his various business interests he found a greater joy in sharing what he had with those who were in need.

For sure there is the Benjamin Hargreaves memorial Primary School on the junction of Barnside Road and Plantation Street, but where are the worthy accolades or placades celebrating this most munificent of Accrington's benefactors in the town? Even the Accrington Library that owes its very beginnings to Benjamin Hargreaves bares no trace of his fellowship, let alone his magnificent contribution in its formative days.

If the council can afford to place such monstrocities as the latest memorial to a virtually unknown man outside the Yorkshire bank on Blackburn road, [no disrespect to the person intended] then they would have done well to commemorate the fine figure of Mr. Benjamin Hargreaves who did so much for Accrington.

Younger generations learn by example and if we fail to give worthy recognition to those previous generations who have made such tremendous contributions to the development of Accrington, then we needn't be surprised or disappointed when our own efforts are so quickly forgotten.

I say, let's resurrect the name of Benjamin Hargreaves and give him the recognition in Accrington that he deserves and is long overdue. :hidewall:

garinda 28-01-2011 15:36

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I think we should record our history.

However, perhaps this philanthropic benefactor was an altruist, and didn't want statues, windows etc. dedicated to his memory.

garinda 28-01-2011 15:49

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There are no public statues in Hyndburn.

If there was to be one, rather than some wealthy industralist, I think it would be more fitting if there was one of a worker connected to the textile industry.

A ten year old child, on the way to the mill.

Shawl.

Barefoot.

Clogged if they were lucky.

Less 28-01-2011 16:17

Somehow, I get the feeling that should we club together for a statue, we would only be allowed to erect one in honour of our overly modest yellow ribboned Council leader, (and he would create a bottle-neck junction with it's positioning so that we all sit staring at it for at least 10 minutes every day).

jaysay 28-01-2011 17:50

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 878631)
Somehow, I get the feeling that should we club together for a statue, we would only be allowed to erect one in honour of our overly modest yellow ribboned Council leader, (and he would create a bottle-neck junction with it's positioning so that we all sit staring at it for at least 10 minutes every day).

Have a word with Ken I'm sure he will take no time in sorting it out for you Less, maybe opposite the Railway would be an ideal place:D

JCB 28-01-2011 18:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 878627)
There are no public statues in Hyndburn.

If there was to be one, rather than some wealthy industralist, I think it would be more fitting if there was one of a worker connected to the textile industry.

Well said , and I think the Luddites would agree . ;)

garinda 28-01-2011 18:25

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 878684)
Well said , and I think the Luddites would agree . ;)

The Luddites real enemy wasn't advances in machinery, but the fact that there is always some poor sod in the world, who'll work for less pennies than you.

Thus keeping those that pay the pennies happy.

:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 28-01-2011 18:41

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I think the problem with benefactors, is that the young folk of today do not see their relevance.

The days of Benjamin Hargreaves were not the days when the government of the day provided things......if a community required something, it had to damn well fund it by public donations or find someone who was rich enough to fund it....and the community went around feeling grateful for what they had been given.
Today it seems that there is very little gratitude because it seems that everything comes so easy.......and is usually disposable.
People(in the main) do not go without anything, in order to save up for something important.....there is no make do and mend.......everyone expects to be able to have what they want, when they want it.
Benfactors have gone right out of style.

Less 28-01-2011 18:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 878654)
Have a word with Ken I'm sure he will take no time in sorting it out for you Less, maybe opposite the Railway would be an ideal place:D

Oh yawn, yawn and triple yawn.

you poor little faithful hound no matter how much he kicks you, you lick his...

hand.

garinda 28-01-2011 19:05

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 878711)
Oh yawn, yawn and triple yawn.

you poor little faithful hound no matter how much he kicks you, you lick his...

hand.

Isn't there a statue, erected for him in Edinburgh?

:rolleyes:

steeljack 29-01-2011 04:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 878627)
There are no public statues in Hyndburn.

If there was to be one, rather than some wealthy industralist, I think it would be more fitting if there was one of a worker connected to the textile industry.

A ten year old child, on the way to the mill.

Shawl.

Barefoot.

Clogged if they were lucky.

apart from War Memorials this is the only "statue" I can think of in a public place in Hyndburn , "an Angel and her Mop " in Gt. Harwood cemetry, can't decide if she was a neat freak or her husband had a wry sense of humour

garinda 29-01-2011 07:13

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 878830)
apart from War Memorials this is the only "statue" I can think of in a public place in Hyndburn , "an Angel and her Mop " in Gt. Harwood cemetry, can't decide if she was a neat freak or her husband had a wry sense of humour

Some interesting, and amusing posts, in this thread.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ccy-16592.html

:D

jaysay 29-01-2011 09:13

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 878700)
I think the problem with benefactors, is that the young folk of today do not see their relevance.

The days of Benjamin Hargreaves were not the days when the government of the day provided things......if a community required something, it had to damn well fund it by public donations or find someone who was rich enough to fund it....and the community went around feeling grateful for what they had been given.
Today it seems that there is very little gratitude because it seems that everything comes so easy.......and is usually disposable.
People(in the main) do not go without anything, in order to save up for something important.....there is no make do and mend.......everyone expects to be able to have what they want, when they want it.
Benfactors have gone right out of style.

Absolutely spot on Margaret, as usual you hit the nail on the head

Pudwoppa 02-02-2011 12:26

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It may be that benefactors have gone out of style, but unfortunately so have things like libraries and books. Any effort to pass on information is a good thing to my mind. How to do that in a relevant way is another story entirely.

MargaretR 02-02-2011 13:25

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I think that we need to consider that some 'benefactors' accrued their wealth by using child labour and low wages paid to adults.


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