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heth 08-02-2011 07:22
Never to old!!
 
What a brave lady. Well done.:D

What gets me though is why did no-one else jump in to stop these men?:mad:

It takes a lady in her 70's to lead the way and then everyone else that was there then helps out??!!

Woman pensioner foils sledgehammer jewellery store raid by clobbering six thugs with handbag | Mail Online

I think the shop should send her something expensive to say thanks for her bravery.;)

If you saw this happening would you step in?

cashman 08-02-2011 07:32
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To me its bravery n stupidity, this aint someone being attacked, its someone robbing a store which will be insured no doubt, if was my mum i'd play hell wi her.

heth 08-02-2011 07:37
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I think the older generation Cashy just get on with it though dont they?

I agree if it was my Mum I would do the same but they seem to be fearless when they see something like this :D

cashman 08-02-2011 07:40
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its a different mentality i think to today.:)

garinda 08-02-2011 07:41
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I admire her pluck.

However, if it had been my mum I'd have gone mad at her, even though I'd been secretly proud of her actions.

Jewellery is insured, and can be replaced. Lives can't.

I once chased a man all through Knightsbridge, who'd stole a pair of cashmere socks. I did get them back, despite him brandishing a knife, when I'd caught up with him.

Once the initial adrenaline had left, I felt pretty stupid, and vowed not to put myself in danger again, if faced with the same situation.

It hasn't happened since, but I suspect I'd do the same thing again.

I hope this woman gets some sort of an award.

cashman 08-02-2011 07:47
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oh i probably would? have never been in that position, but a couple of times i have assisted people being attacked by a gang n so i reckon i would probably be stupid enough to do the same.:rolleyes:

MargaretR 08-02-2011 07:48
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The part of that report which I found thought provoking was the bit where one of the robbers was ready to attack her, but backed off when he saw her fearless expression.
She had the element of surprise on her side.

cashman 08-02-2011 07:51
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whats provoking about that is fact she could have had a sledgehammer in the kisser.:eek:

MargaretR 08-02-2011 07:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 881647)
whats provoking about that is fact she could have had a sledgehammer in the kisser.:eek:
..The fact that the robber could not bring himself to bash a granny who had 'grit'

cashman 08-02-2011 08:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 881650)
..The fact that the robber could not bring himself to bash a granny who had 'grit'
yep but every robber would NOT hold back would they, thats been proven many times in the past.

heth 08-02-2011 08:04
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Yeah I thought that Margaret, she was lucky that he wernt mental or smacked off his head on drugs and that he actually thought about his actions.................pity it didnt come sooner though and then he wouldnt have been there in the first place!

I think I would step up though if I saw anything like this, but like you Garinda I would feel a bit mad at myself for putting myself in danger. It all depends on how bad it is.
Luckily I havent witnessed anything.

jaysay 08-02-2011 09:07
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To me this lady had guts but it could have been her epitaph, the eulogy she was made of stern stuff and new right from wrong would have been no good at her funeral, as others have said things are insured and can be replaced lives can't

Less 08-02-2011 09:12
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I would have joined in but I'd just dropped my handbag off at the dry cleaners to get the blood it was covered in from the last robbery I had foiled removed.

http://www.fashionista.com/images/en...ley%20face.jpg

jaysay 08-02-2011 09:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 881670)
I would have joined in but I'd just dropped my handbag off at the dry cleaners to get the blood it was covered in from the last robbery I had foiled removed.

http://www.fashionista.com/images/en...ley%20face.jpg
Ya mean you've only one handbag Less:rolleyes:

heth 08-02-2011 09:41
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I think he has a sparkly one for "special occasions" ;)

Less 08-02-2011 09:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 881677)
Ya mean you've only one handbag Less:rolleyes:
Yes just the one, a bag is for life Jay not just for shoplifting!

Quote:
Originally Posted by heth (Post 881682)
I think he has a sparkly one for "special occasions" ;)
Yes, and whenever I get it out the ladies eyes really do light up.
:indeplus:

heth 08-02-2011 10:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 881686)
Yes, and whenever I get it out the ladies eyes really do light up.
:indeplus:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

What their eyes light up in horror?! :D

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Margaret Pilkington 08-02-2011 10:42
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If I hit someone with my handbag they would be severely injured.......I carry so much stuff around with me.

Yes, she was foolhardy, but I might have done the same thing.....sometimes the adrenalin takes over....and really this being afraid to step in has helped lead to a society where everyone is happy to 'pass by on the other side'.

Good on the old girl......she had guts!

DaveinGermany 08-02-2011 11:32
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What an extraordinarily brave old dear, my total respect to her for getting stuck in when more able bodied stood around & watched. She was fortunate not to suffer injury, but it reinforces a more dismaying aspect of the modern society, that of well it's not my concern so why get involved.

I personally have been involved in situations were I have stepped up to intervene in something I find to be wrong. A sense of propriety & ingrained attitudes of right & wrong has overridden my sense of self preservation as many others of a certain generation, mindset & upbringing are also wont to do.

It is only afterwards when the adrenaline surge & the burst of what is fair & righteous has ebbed that we tend to think of possible consequences to our actions. The risks & dangers our civil courage at that moment may have exposed us to are laid bare & cold reality hits home, the possibility of hurt & hospitalization are very real. Still I personally would intervene again as I believe it is just part of my nature.

Foolish maybe, but a part of myself that I can't & won't be separated from as it is ultimately something that defines me.

Margaret Pilkington 08-02-2011 12:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 881703)
What an extraordinarily brave old dear, my total respect to her for getting stuck in when more able bodied stood around & watched. She was fortunate not to suffer injury, but it reinforces a more dismaying aspect of the modern society, that of well it's not my concern so why get involved.

I personally have been involved in situations were I have stepped up to intervene in something I find to be wrong. A sense of propriety & ingrained attitudes of right & wrong has overridden my sense of self preservation as many others of a certain generation, mindset & upbringing are also wont to do.

It is only afterwards when the adrenaline surge & the burst of what is fair & righteous has ebbed that we tend to think of possible consequences to our actions. The risks & dangers our civil courage at that moment may have exposed us to are laid bare & cold reality hits home, the possibility of hurt & hospitalization are very real. Still I personally would intervene again as I believe it is just part of my nature.

Foolish maybe, but a part of myself that I can't & won't be separated from as it is ultimately something that defines me.

You must've got it from me son! :D:D:D

DaveinGermany 08-02-2011 12:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881709)
You must've got it from me son! :D:D:D
Aye, I (Happily) hold my parents responsible ! :)

Margaret Pilkington 08-02-2011 14:01
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Does that include virtual parents too?

DaveinGermany 08-02-2011 14:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881723)
Does that include virtual parents too?
Most certainly Ma, very remiss of me. :)

mallard 08-02-2011 16:47
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Like one or two of you said she was brave,but to tell you the truth i would have mes,t about nick nacking on her door in her younger days,but she was brave.

jaysay 08-02-2011 17:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881690)
If I hit someone with my handbag they would be severely injured
!
I remember somebody else who carried a handbag Margaret:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Less 08-02-2011 18:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 881761)
I remember somebody else who carried a handbag Margaret:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Should that read,


I remember somebody else who carried a handbag, she was called Margaret.

What a cold hearted bitch she was for ordinary decent folk, but, history can't possibly be about to repeat itself, can it?

The guy now in charge hasn't got a hand bag.

(probably carries snooker balls in a sock).
:rolleyes:

jaysay 08-02-2011 18:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 881783)
Should that read,


I remember somebody else who carried a handbag, she was called Margaret.

What a cold hearted bitch she was for ordinary decent folk, but, history can't possibly be about to repeat itself, can it?

The guy now in charge hasn't got a hand bag.

(probably carries snooker balls in a sock).
:rolleyes:
No Less you got that wrong she was the Blessed Margaret:D

Eric 08-02-2011 19:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881690)
If I hit someone with my handbag they would be severely injured.......I carry so much stuff around with me.

Yes, she was foolhardy, but I might have done the same thing.....sometimes the adrenalin takes over....and really this being afraid to step in has helped lead to a society where everyone is happy to 'pass by on the other side'.

Good on the old girl......she had guts!
Probably got a Nori in there:D

walkinman221 08-02-2011 20:23
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I once helped a lass i saw being banjoed by what turned out to be her boyfriend but the problem was, when i got hold of him to give him the good news SHE attacked me calling me some very unchristian names:confused:.Having said that i would probably do the same again. Top marks to the old girl as cashy says brave but a bit daft as well,but its one in the eye for the scumbags:mosher:

Margaret Pilkington 08-02-2011 20:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 881799)
Probably got a Nori in there:D
Ooh, I don't know Eric......I must check.
There were two bottles of soft drink in there the last time I looked....a couple of bottles of vitamins(need them to carry the bag around)......a purse full of shrapnel.....a screwdriver, nailfile, clippers.....a couple of cloth shopping bags, a couple of plastic ones, a small cellar of salt.......and other amazing trancklements of daily living.

If anyone ever needs anything while we are out...you can bet your life I have it somewhere in my bag.

No......I don't have a lump hammer in there!

walkinman221 08-02-2011 20:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881818)
Ooh, I don't know Eric......I must check.
There were two bottles of soft drink in there the last time I looked....a couple of bottles of vitamins(need them to carry the bag around)......a purse full of shrapnel.....a screwdriver, nailfile, clippers.....a couple of cloth shopping bags, a couple of plastic ones, a small cellar of salt.......and other amazing trancklements of daily living.

If anyone ever needs anything while we are out...you can bet your life I have it somewhere in my bag.

No......I don't have a lump hammer in there!
Have you got my tv remote i cant find it:D

katex 08-02-2011 22:10
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You know, I never thought I would be stupid enough to wade into situations like this .. but have found myself doing it on a few occasions.

I don't understand what happens .. sorta Incredible Hulk type metamorphosis takes over in me and adrenalin takes over brain cells.

Did go for a gang of four youths who were trying to steal my car from the car park at work in Manchester.... even fought with one of them to stop them entering, and clinging on the bonnet as they were drove off successfully. Was found later with £4,000 of damage.

Other incidents have been groups of youths throwing snowballs/missiles at my car and have pulled up and chased them through the park or given them a good telling off.

Last month had a word with a couple in Ossy ripping hell out of each other telling them to keep their noises down ... the boy was OK actually ... just kept saying "Well, it's her, not me".:D

Stupid, stupid, stupid !!! (not bravery) .. just can't help it. Surprised myself.

cashman 08-02-2011 22:14
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Watch out Kates about.:eek:

katex 08-02-2011 22:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 881853)
Watch out Kates about.:eek:
Honest, Cashy, really don't know what happens .. have never been physically violent (ok, verbally on occasions :)). I know now I would have done exactly what this lady did, from my past experiences. :silly:

Have thought about taking lessons from my son, who teaches Krav Maga (self defence system), to help me if it happens again... OK, that was a plug ... :D

cashman 08-02-2011 22:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 881855)
Honest, Cashy, really don't know what happens .. have never been physically violent (ok, verbally on occasions :)). I know now I would have done exactly what this lady did, from my past experiences. :silly:

Have thought about taking lessons from my son, who teaches Krav Maga (self defence system), to help me if it happens again... OK, that was a plug ... :D
I call it the "Red Mist" which has descended on me occasionally,as i mentioned earlier, when ive seen people being attacked, but to me this was different circs, this gang was armed n also not attacking me or mine, i honestly do not know, i would hope i wouldn't be stupid enough.:eek:

Margaret Pilkington 09-02-2011 06:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 881821)
Have you got my tv remote i cant find it:D

Have just looked........sorry...not there I'm afraid.

Margaret Pilkington 09-02-2011 06:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 881855)
Honest, Cashy, really don't know what happens .. have never been physically violent (ok, verbally on occasions :)). I know now I would have done exactly what this lady did, from my past experiences. :silly:

Have thought about taking lessons from my son, who teaches Krav Maga (self defence system), to help me if it happens again... OK, that was a plug ... :D

I know exactly what you mean Kate....there have been times when himself has had to hold me back.
He tells me I could get stabbed....hit over the head, punched in the mouth.........but I hate wrongdoing...and if on my own I have no doubt about what I would have done..........I would have been faster than Supergran too.....even with my heavy bag.:rolleyes:

katex 09-02-2011 06:55
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Tee hee, Margaret, can just imagine you ... :whack:

jaysay 09-02-2011 08:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 881815)
I once helped a lass i saw being banjoed by what turned out to be her boyfriend but the problem was, when i got hold of him to give him the good news SHE attacked me calling me some very unchristian names:confused:.Having said that i would probably do the same again. Top marks to the old girl as cashy says brave but a bit daft as well,but its one in the eye for the scumbags:mosher:
I could say snap there walkinman, when I worked at Martholme Grange, a guy came in one night looking for his girlfriend, when he found her she was dancing with another bloke, he dragged her outside and was knocking seven bells out of her outside the front door, I went to intervene and the woman started clawing at me with her nails shouting leave him alone, I just said carry on and walked away:rolleyes:

jaysay 09-02-2011 09:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 881855)
Honest, Cashy, really don't know what happens .. have never been physically violent (ok, verbally on occasions :)). I know now I would have done exactly what this lady did, from my past experiences. :silly:

Have thought about taking lessons from my son, who teaches Krav Maga (self defence system), to help me if it happens again... OK, that was a plug ... :D
If you do an impression of the Hulk Kate, I hope you catty a spare blouse in your handbag, and knowing the size of some handbag's you could probably keep it on the hanger so it doesn't crease:D

jaysay 09-02-2011 09:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 881860)
I call it the "Red Mist" which has descended on me occasionally,as i mentioned earlier, when ive seen people being attacked, but to me this was different circs, this gang was armed n also not attacking me or mine, i honestly do not know, i would hope i wouldn't be stupid enough.:eek:
Red Mist cashy, Roy Keane suffered from that on a regular basis:D

walkinman221 09-02-2011 09:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881886)
Have just looked........sorry...not there I'm afraid.
Its ok found it in the old favourite down the back of the sofa:D

Eric 09-02-2011 13:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881818)
Ooh, I don't know Eric......I must check.
There were two bottles of soft drink in there the last time I looked....a couple of bottles of vitamins(need them to carry the bag around)......a purse full of shrapnel.....a screwdriver, nailfile, clippers.....a couple of cloth shopping bags, a couple of plastic ones, a small cellar of salt.......and other amazing trancklements of daily living.

If anyone ever needs anything while we are out...you can bet your life I have it somewhere in my bag.

No......I don't have a lump hammer in there!
Wow ... how big is that thing :eek: Bet you couldn't get it through airport security;)

Margaret Pilkington 09-02-2011 15:17
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Not that big Eric.......it is just soft sided so it accommodates all manner of things.
I emptied it out on the bed earlier today, there was also a sewing kit(with buttons and safety pins) a couple of combs, a magnifying card(the lamps are a bit dim sometimes)......a pair of tweezers, a small pair of scissors. some lip balm and a folding mirror...plus paper hankies.....a couple of pens.....a stub of a pencil......some post it notes.

It would have had a small camera in too...but I had taken it out to put new batteries in it.

Margaret Pilkington 09-02-2011 15:18
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I'm pretty sure I am not the only female to carry around such an assortment.

katex 09-02-2011 17:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881991)
I'm pretty sure I am not the only female to carry around such an assortment.

Tell tale tit ... :D

walkinman221 09-02-2011 17:46
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It never fails to amaze me the amount of stuff women have in their bags, i would need a wheelbarrow to carry all that tackle:D

Margaret Pilkington 09-02-2011 17:47
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See.......told you I wasn't the only one! :D. Sorry to let the cat out of the bag Kate(how did that get in there?).

Himself had to hang onto my bag recently while I went and had a tooth filled.......he wanted to know what 'the Sam Hill' I had in my bag....and was it all necessary to my daily doings.

Eric 09-02-2011 18:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 882033)
It never fails to amaze me the amount of stuff women have in their bags, i would need a wheelbarrow to carry all that tackle:D
If you need a wheelbarrow, Margaret and Kate probably have one in their handbags:D

shillelagh 09-02-2011 19:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881991)
I'm pretty sure I am not the only female to carry around such an assortment.
whats a handbag? :D:D:D

Eric 09-02-2011 23:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 882076)
whats a handbag? :D:D:D
Ok ... if you want it in Canadian, its a purse, eh.;)

shillelagh 09-02-2011 23:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 882101)
Ok ... if you want it in Canadian, its a purse, eh.;)
have one of them .. no money in it though .... :D:D:D

jaysay 10-02-2011 08:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 882055)
If you need a wheelbarrow, Margaret and Kate probably have one in their handbags:D
And a pitch fork too:D


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