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cashman 13-02-2011 20:07

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883210)
All entrepreneurs have to take a risk Dave .. not play safe, that's what made them millionaires :p

looking at the general consensus on here, daves best bet is play safe.:pThough he may get 4 postal orders from regions far.pmsl

Alan Varrechia 13-02-2011 20:22

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If he prints "I don't give a stuff about the Royal Wedding" I'll order 3 straight away. :D:D:D

katex 13-02-2011 20:22

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883205)
Er...my little bug bear, facts.

Let's deal in them.

You might want to check your's.

The Arts Czarina posted that three quarters of the funding for the flash mob came from the Lotto, and 'about a quarter' from HBC. I posted many times, besides thinking that it was naff, that I wouldn't have given two hoots, if it wasn't part funded by the tax payers of Hyndburn. That was the whole point.

Thankfully never having been a gambler, it's hard to predict on any returns from 'monies gained'.

Besides, it's especially irresponsible to gamble when the piggy bank is empty, and you haven't got any money as a stake in the first place.

I started this thread because I wondered if others think it's also a stupid waste of money, in these worrying times.

So far, the vast majority think similarly.

You don't.

Fine.

I hope you enjoy your 'pricless' extravangance.

Call it our treat.

W£ell. let's stick to that,shall we ?

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883207)
Do we know how much financal gain Knitty Nora attracted to the area, after her residency in the Market Hall, crocheting gonks?

We know how many thousands it cost, but I haven't seen the monetary return figures yet in black and white.

Anyone got them?

Another megalomaniac post ..

I have not had a go at people who voted 'no' .. why are you having a go because I voted 'yes' reverting to past heavily discussed issues, which have no relevance on this thread ?... :confused:

Marketing is not easy to calculate as to the gains ... you should know that. Gains can turn up to years later.

lancsdave 13-02-2011 20:23

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Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 883215)
If he prints "I don't give a stuff about the Royal Wedding" I'll order 3 straight away. :D:D:D

Now there's an idea :D

garinda 13-02-2011 20:27

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 883217)
Now there's an idea :D

I bet you'd sell more DON'T CLOSE THE BOGS tea-towels, than you would for the receding heir to the throne's wedding.

;)

Wynonie Harris 13-02-2011 20:30

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883167)
That 'eyes to heaven' emoticon should not be aimed at me. I did not express a view that, whichever way people voted, they should explain themselves.

As I am in the middle of composing a 15,000 words reply (ok exaggeration), I may consider posting it later, however, knowing that it will be subject to heavy criticism, analysis of every word and general insults I may back down.

Seems to me though, there are a couple of issues going on in the minds of people who have voted 'No', not just the economy .. just the ones that dislike the monarchy anyway, and would vote this way no matter what the question was. Also, a couple that I suspect is politically biased against our Conservative council.

For instance, even though I am not overly fond of football, I would still vote a yes to the Council backing up our Accrington Stanley, a minority pleasure for some, even in the face of this gloomy economy if they decided to do so.

You said that some no voters hadn't expressed an opinion. I hadn't. So I did. (The "eyes to heaven" opticon was mildly and amusedly exasperated, rather than heavily sarcastic. ;) ).

I've no axe to grind against the Royal Family or the Conservatives. I can take or leave the former and I despise Labour every bit as much as I do the Tories. I just think in this time of stringent costcutting measures, it's sheer madness to squander public money on Royal Wedding celebrations.

However, far more importantly, what's all this about not being overly fond of football? I thought you said you were coming up the Stanley on Saturday? I was really looking forward to meeting you!

cashman 13-02-2011 20:30

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883220)
I bet you'd sell more DON'T CLOSE THE BOGS tea-towels, than you would for the receding heir to the throne's wedding.

;)

knocking bet, many more care about that fact fer sure.:D

katex 13-02-2011 20:40

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883222)
You said that some no voters hadn't expressed an opinion. I hadn't. So I did. (The "eyes to heaven" opticon was mildly and amusedly exasperated, rather than heavily sarcastic. ;) ).

!

No, mine was just in return for Cashy's remark about 'yes' voters being gutless for not posting their reasons .. I just pointed out that quite a few 'no' voters had not either. And I don't for one minute believe you were not being sarcastic to me.

cashman 13-02-2011 20:43

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883227)
No, mine was just in return for Cashy's remark about 'yes' voters being gutless for not posting their reasons .. I just pointed out that quite a few 'no' voters had not either. And I don't for one minute believe you were not being sarcastic to me.

thats cos yeh dont know him......i'm the sarcastic one, wyns a very nice gentleman.

garinda 13-02-2011 20:46

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883216)
W£ell. let's stick to that,shall we ?.

Sure. You were factually wrong. Council tax money did fund the flash mob. Let's move on.

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883216)
Another megalomaniac post ..

I have not had a go at people who voted 'no' .. why are you having a go because I voted 'yes' reverting to past heavily discussed issues, which have no relevance on this thread ?... :confused:

Marketing is not easy to calculate as to the gains ... you should know that. Gains can turn up to years later.

I'm not 'having a go' at the yes we're happy to blow the money voters.

I'm stating that far from being 'priceless', with residential care homes for disabled children threatened with closure, as well as hundereds of local jobs being at risk, it is an irresponsible waste of money.

No factual evidence can be given as to any finacial returns. That would be guess work. Which is never a good thing to do, when faced with dire straits. Even with other peoples' money.

As for megalomanical, you might want to check your vocabulary, as well as your facts.

If you mean not afraid of speaking out, when something is obviously wrong. Yes that's me. Bring it on.

I've always been comfortable in my own skin ever to feel the need to chase power, or wealth. Nor do I suffer from mental illness.

Though I do occasionally fear for the sanity of some poor deluded souls.

garinda 13-02-2011 20:50

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883227)
No, mine was just in return for Cashy's remark about 'yes' voters being gutless for not posting their reasons .. I just pointed out that quite a few 'no' voters had not either. And I don't for one minute believe you were not being sarcastic to me.

It's quite clear Cashman was referring to those who voted yes, who live outside the area, and who gave no further reasoning, as to why they thought yes, we should pay for this hurrah in Hyndburn.

Wynonie Harris 13-02-2011 20:59

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883227)
And I don't for one minute believe you were not being sarcastic to me.

So what you're saying is that I'm a liar? I'm a lot of things but not that, as anyone who knows me will tell you. Still, you're entitled to your opinion. It's about as valid as your opinion on the Royal Wedding HBC celebrations.

cashman 13-02-2011 21:02

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883233)
It's quite clear Cashman was referring to those who voted yes, who live outside the area, and who gave no further reasoning, as to why they thought yes, we should pay for this hurrah in Hyndburn.

not when yer defending the indefensible as 1 of the 6 is.:D

garinda 13-02-2011 21:07

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883235)
So what you're saying is that I'm a liar? I'm a lot of things but not that, as anyone who knows me will tell you. Still, you're entitled to your opinion.

That's you labelled.

I'm 'more money than sense', please to meet you.

Although having met you, the label I'd stick on you, if forced to, would either be 'straight as a die', or 'honest as the day is long'.

Takes all sorts.

Some'll happily fork out for a full orchestra, to belt out 'Land of Hope and Glory', without a hope in Hell of actually paying them for doing so.

(No smiley, so as not to cause anyone grave offence.)

garinda 13-02-2011 21:16

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883222)
I've no axe to grind against the Royal Family or the Conservatives. I can take or leave the former and I despise Labour every bit as much as I do the Tories. I just think in this time of stringent costcutting measures, it's sheer madness to squander public money on Royal Wedding celebrations.

People, across the political spectrum, have returned an almighty NO vote.

All united, from right-wing Tory, to left-wing red, and the many moderates, of no particular political persuasion, in thinking this is an utter waste of their money.

It is about costs.

katex 13-02-2011 21:36

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883060)
Plain enough for you, Kate? :rolleyes:


How else would you take that virtual comment, Wynonie ? Implied that I was questioning your right not to comment on your vote and, as explained, I did not question that in the first place. Wouldn't exactly call you a liar . that's a bit strong ... just that you were being sarcastic with me, without just cause.

Well, am coming off this thread now as, as predicated, has just resorted to a slanging match due to the fact that I dared to vote a 'yes' on the poll and tried to be reasonable about the costs and dared to look at the bigger picture.

'Course I have not got around to the loyalty for our past and how the world is envious about our Monarchy. The ceremony with our soldiers and dignitaries in their smart uniforms, the golden coach, the absolute professional organisation we have for such events. The past memories of the bringing together families like our Queen's marriage, when ration coupons were still being distributed, but still helped to hold the country together. And, of course, the millions it will bring into the country.

However, mustn't digress into the National contribution as Garinda said, but seems able to spread his own tentacles into other areas.

Bet all you 'no's' will have a quick peek anyway and derive some sort of pleasure and pride from it... :p

And bet there are loads of members on here who would vote yes but daren't due to preempting attacks such as these.

cashman 13-02-2011 21:41

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883243)

And bet there are loads of members on here who would vote yes but daren't due to preempting attacks such as these.

well that shocked me, yeh really are away wi the fairies if yeh honestly think that...........Beam me up Scotty.:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 13-02-2011 21:49

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883227)
And I don't for one minute believe you were not being sarcastic to me.

Well, if you "don't for one minute believe" what I was saying, then in my eyes you're calling me a liar.

Also, if you think that there are hordes of subdued would-be "yes" voters, cowed into silence, then you have a very low opinion of your fellow Accywebbers. From my experience of this forum, the vast majority of members will come right out and say what they think, regardless of Gary's, Cashy's, mine or anybody else's opinion! (Look - no emoticons!).

shillelagh 13-02-2011 21:59

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i dont know ... thats why i havent voted .... cant make my mind up either way ....

garinda 13-02-2011 21:59

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883243)
I dared to vote a 'yes' on the poll and tried to be reasonable about the costs and dared to look at the bigger picture.

No one can be 'reasonable' about the costs, because as yet they're unknown. Though judging from the costs of other civic celebrations they're unlikely to be meagre.

The vast majority of people object on principle, to there being any costs involved at all, to be funded from the public purse, and therefore paid for by themselves.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

You and Neil are happy paying for the royal wedding celebrations.

The rest of Hyndburn disagree, and are not so very keen. To say the least.

:)

P.S. As a holiday idea, why not join the millions of fellow tourists and visit France's historic palaces and monuments?

Toy Town soldiers, in ever such cute uniforms.

A thousand rooms at Versailles to mooch around. Rather than a miserly ten at Buck House.

All this, and the only royal personage you're likely to see will probably be a ghost.

Bon voyage.

:)

katex 13-02-2011 22:00

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Nevertheless, Wynonie, it did degenerate into a bullying attack on my opinion and would never have attacked anyone on their opinion except constructively I would hope.

cashman 13-02-2011 22:07

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883252)
Nevertheless, Wynonie, it did degenerate into a bullying attack on my opinion and would never have attacked anyone on their opinion except constructively I would hope.

this is getting dafter,so anyone who strongly disagrees wi yer viewpoint is bullying ya? its called speaking yer mind, which you have done n so have others.:rolleyes:

garinda 13-02-2011 22:16

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 883250)
i dont know ... thats why i havent voted .... cant make my mind up either way ....

Her.

Don't let cash cuts ruin my son's life | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

Afraid. Afraid the respite care home her severely disabled child attends, is likely to be closed, to save money, means the mattter for me was very cut and dried, about where taxes are most needed.

Yes, LCC funds the homes, but they are funded by our council taxes, and this is about principle.

Well used, and much needed and appreciated public toilets are being closed down, in order 'to save money', whilst thousands are going to be blown on an event most people seem apathetic about.

You have the right not to vote, and to voice your opinion that you haven't.

To me it couldn't be more clear cut.

It's right versus wrong.

BERNADETTE 13-02-2011 22:17

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I have voted No because in these hard times think the money could be better used elsewhere. We could maybe get the toilets in Peel Street re-opened:rolleyes:

I will be watching the wedding as I like the Royal Family:)

garinda 13-02-2011 22:31

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 883255)
this is getting dafter,so anyone who strongly disagrees wi yer viewpoint is bullying ya? its called speaking yer mind, which you have done n so have others.:rolleyes:

You're right.

'Some' didn't seem particularly bulied or victimised, when giving their strongly worded opinions about how people spent their OWN money.

Was it 'constructive' to say my hardworking mother had 'more money than sense', for spending £8.00 per head for lunch? I just found that rude and offensive. Certainly not constructive, when discussing good local cafes.

Objecting to how all our money is being spent, in the form of council tax, is bullying?

No it isn't.

It's about speaking out, when something is blatantly wrong. At least in the eyes of the vast majority.

When we face such frightening cuts, spending any public money on this is event wrong.

If people want to organise, and pay for their own celebrations, fine. Not a problem for me.

Good luck to 'em.

emamum 13-02-2011 22:38

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 882738)
Where are you going ema?

ive gone :-) now in pendle,not hyndburn

Posted via Mobile Device

cashman 13-02-2011 22:40

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Originally Posted by emamum (Post 883263)
ive gone :-) now in pendle,not hyndburn

Posted via Mobile Device

well at least yer won't be paying fer the royal wedding in accy market ems.:D;)

garinda 13-02-2011 22:42

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Originally Posted by emamum (Post 883263)
ive gone :-) now in pendle,not hyndburn

Posted via Mobile Device

Don't be a stranger, and if they attempt to try you for witchcraft we'll start a petition, and send it to the Queen, with our letter asking for some wedding cake.

:D

Alan Varrechia 13-02-2011 23:04

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Maybe the six should club together for a mini bus and watch the celebrations in another town, sure it would be cheaper, for hyndburns tax payers anyway.
( No emoticons.).

katex 13-02-2011 23:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883260)
Was it 'constructive' to say my hardworking mother had 'more money than sense', for spending £8.00 per head for lunch? I just found that rude and offensive. Certainly not constructive, when discussing good local cafes.

.

No, it was not constructive and, as mentioned, I did apologise for that remark and admitted that I had been a prig, as you called me. I didn't even know your mum had paid for the meal until you mentioned it again later. What more can I do ? Will cut a pound of my flesh off if you like !
Why do you keep bringing it up ?

Benipete 13-02-2011 23:17

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Should local taxes be spent celebrating this?

That was the Question and the choices were YES or NO.

I didn't know I had to justify my reasons for voting No or indeed explain them,But if I must, I am with the majority that think public money could be better spent.

I'm not against parties but I always managed to fund my own.:theband::cheers::cake::alc::drink::bleedht::p ain30:

heth 13-02-2011 23:28

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I have voted No, money could be better spent.

garinda 13-02-2011 23:48

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883267)
No, it was not constructive and, as mentioned, I did apologise for that remark and admitted that I had been a prig, as you called me. I didn't even know your mum had paid for the meal until you mentioned it again later. What more can I do ? Will cut a pound of my flesh off if you like !
Why do you keep bringing it up ?

Because accusations of 'bullying' are now be branded about.

I was merely pointing out that others have also given strongly worded opinions, including non-constructive criticism, that were irrelevant.

Another reason to cross-reference two threads, was both discussed costs. Though one was about self-financed costs, and the other requiring public funds from the tax payer.

I have similarly mentioned subjects discussed in other threads, because they help illustrate the likely costs involved in hosting civic leisure events.

Happily I've got quite a good memory, and won't apologise for bringing up something someone may have said in an earlier thread, if it happens to add any relevance. I shall continue doing that, until it is no possible for me to do so.

I've just reread this thread, Gawd help me, and see no evidence of anyone being bullied.

If others do think this is bullying, I can only pity their innocence, and assume they've never actually seen any real bullying.

From ardent royalist to arch republican, the majority of people don't want public money spent on celebrating Prince William's wedding in Hyndburn. As others have posted, even William has said they want a low key celebration themselves, mindful of the economic crisis.

The majority think it wrong to spend local money on it, and so do I.

I'll keep on saying this passionately 'til I'm blue in the face, if need be.

If that makes me a bully in some eyes, I'll live with that quite happily. Knowing what I do of their opinions, about other things, and people.

I still say what I've said, in the way that I've said it, if I was in a one percent minority.

It's what I wholeheartedly believe.

Margaret Pilkington 14-02-2011 06:23

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And I won't be one of those taking a quick peek.

Wynonie Harris 14-02-2011 07:15

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883252)
Nevertheless, Wynonie, it did degenerate into a bullying attack on my opinion and would never have attacked anyone on their opinion except constructively I would hope.

Strange...back in post 116, you said you were "coming off this thread". Wouldn't have been telling porkies would you, Kate? ;) :D :cool: :hehetable:gooddog::tongueout (Oh no, those pesky emoticons again -they keep popping up everywhere!).

katex 14-02-2011 17:28

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 883298)
Strange...back in post 116, you said you were "coming off this thread". Wouldn't have been telling porkies would you, Kate? ;) :D :cool: :hehetable:gooddog::tongueout (Oh no, those pesky emoticons again -they keep popping up everywhere!).

Yes, I lied ... just call me Miss Piggy. ;)

jaysay 14-02-2011 17:40

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 883408)
Yes, I lied ... just call me Miss Piggy. ;)

Remember Kate Miss Piggy, used to all the bests dates:D

JCB 14-02-2011 18:13

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Enjoy.

garinda 14-02-2011 19:37

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 883425)
Enjoy.

I'm sure the tiny minority of residents who think it a good use of public money, will do.

Apparently not much in it for the vast majority of people. Besides having to pay the bill.

cashman 14-02-2011 20:44

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i reckon the latest recruit number 7 is a real wind up merchant, aint ya G.G.;):D

yerself 14-02-2011 20:54

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If they spend money on the wedding there might be nothing left for barmpot schemes like flashdances and waterless swimming.;)

garinda 14-02-2011 22:33

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Questions were put to the Leader of the Council, summarised below, to which he
responded -

To ask the Leader of the Council how much he intended to spend on the proposed
royal wedding celebrations in April, bearing in mind guidance from Buckingham Palace
that this was to be an “austerity wedding” and bearing in mind the likelihood of
compulsory redundancies within the Council (Councillor Parkinson)

COUNCIL

Sadly the response isn't given here.

Any councillor present care to enlighten us?

heth 14-02-2011 23:04

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883501)
Questions were put to the Leader of the Council, summarised below, to which he
responded -

To ask the Leader of the Council how much he intended to spend on the proposed
royal wedding celebrations in April, bearing in mind guidance from Buckingham Palace
that this was to be an “austerity wedding” and bearing in mind the likelihood of
compulsory redundancies within the Council (Councillor Parkinson)

COUNCIL

Sadly the response isn't given here.

Any councillor present care to enlighten us?


Mmmmmmm also interesting to read about the Market Hall trading days aswell.........

JCB 15-02-2011 10:26

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883451)
I'm sure the tiny minority of residents who think it a good use of public money, will do.

Apparently not much in it for the vast majority of people. Besides having to pay the bill.

I agree that it is not for the Government , national or local , to spend money helping people to celebrate William and Kate's wedding .

I will enjoy the event , mostly through TV , and I might raise a glass or two to toast the happy couple , but it will be at my expense .

I admire the Queen and I think William is making a good start on his way to becoming King . :)

I won't comment on Charles . :eek:

garinda 15-02-2011 15:37

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 883570)
I agree that it is not for the Government , national or local , to spend money helping people to celebrate William and Kate's wedding .

I will enjoy the event , mostly through TV , and I might raise a glass or two to toast the happy couple , but it will be at my expense .

I admire the Queen and I think William is making a good start on his way to becoming King . :)

I won't comment on Charles . :eek:

That's perfectly fine, and like any other youngle couple setting out on their married lives together, most of us will wish them well.

This is about unnecessary costs.

For instance if there's a budget already set aside for bedding plants, I'm sure only the churlish would disagree with the plan to have a red, white, and blue colour scheme. Not collecting fees for road closures, because of street parties, again no real finacial cost to the tax payer. No problem.

As it stands, we have ardent royalists voting no, they don't want their taxes spent on local civic celebrations. Sentiments which seem to echo the thoughts of the couple themselves. That the wedding should be relatively low key, and excess and extravagance should be kept to a minimum, because of the dire state of the UK economy, and the savage cuts we are beginning to see.

Yet Hyndburn plans to mark the occasion with majestic pomp and pageanty, topped off by exploding fireworks. Which the majority of those who'll pay for it seem disinterested or apathetic about, to say the least. Whilst others are very angry.

Less 15-02-2011 16:10

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883623)
That's perfectly fine, and like any other youngle couple setting out on their married lives together, most of us will wish them well.

This is about unnecessary costs.

For instance if there's a budget already set aside for bedding plants, I'm sure only the churlish would disagree with the plan to have a red, white, and blue colour scheme. Not collecting fees for road closures, because of street parties, again no real finacial cost to the tax payer. No problem.

As it stands, we have ardent royalists voting no, they don't want their taxes spent on local civic celebrations. Sentiments which seem to echo the thoughts of the couple themselves. That the wedding should be relatively low key, and excess and extravagance should be kept to a minimum, because of the dire state of the UK economy, and the savage cuts we are beginning to see.

Yet Hyndburn plans to mark the occasion with majestic pomp and pageanty, topped off by exploding fireworks. Which the majority of those who'll pay for it seem disinterested or apathetic about, to say the least. Whilst others are very angry.

Let's be honest, this is a poll of accyweb, yes, the majority on here are against.
But, the majority are represented by Their Councillors, they, (the Councillors), (despite the couple themselves, insisting that this wedding should be low key), insist on spending our money in celebration.

Rindy,

Surely now is a time to back down?
Surely THEY know better than you?
They have after all, been voted in because they KNOW.

Surely you must realise the importance of putting self before populace?

Award yourself a medal.

Creep like mad to Royalty.

Get a knighthood.

Continue creeping to the right powers, and become...

Lord Yellow badge of Hyndburn, a bigger title, gosh, won't that do us, his subjects a power of good?

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 16:13

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883623)
Yet Hyndburn plans to mark the occasion with majestic pomp and pageanty, topped off by exploding fireworks. Which the majority of those who'll pay for it seem disinterested or apathetic about, to say the least. Whilst others are very angry.

Fireworks, eh? This is excellent news; in fact,seems to be getting better every day. I trust that some of the pet owning republicans on here will appreciate the noise as their dogs and cats go berserk on this wonderful day. Now I'm more than ever tempted to return north for these great celebrations - it will certainly save me spending money on flags and bunting and the like.

garinda 15-02-2011 16:20

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 883629)
Let's be honest, this is a poll of accyweb, yes, the majority on here are against it.

It isn't a borough wide survey, that is true, but as Accy Webbers are a fairly diverse bunch, I think it does probably reflect the feelings of the greater majority of Hyndburn residents.

I gave my opinion, and started this poll to see if I was alone in thinking council taxes shouldn't be spent on official celebrations.

It seems I'm not alone.

garinda 15-02-2011 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883630)
Fireworks, eh? This is excellent news; in fact,seems to be getting better every day. I trust that some of the pet owning republicans on here will appreciate the noise as their dogs and cats go berserk on this wonderful day. Now I'm more than ever tempted to return north for these great celebrations - it will certainly save me spending money on flags and bunting and the like.

If your bail conditions allow, and you hurry back quickly, you could perhaps even join us in paying for it all.

;)

Less 15-02-2011 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883632)
It isn't a borough wide survey, that is true, but as Accy Webbers are a fairly diverse bunch, I think it does probably reflect the feelings of the greater majority of Hyndburn residents.

I gave my opinion, and started this poll to see if I was alone in thinking council taxes shouldn't be spent on official celebrations.

It seems I'm not alone.

You're deffo not alone, but even our so called, majority party can't be allowed to choose anything for themselves, he's supposed to lead but rumour says no-one wants to follow. (Allegedly).

Ooooh, I'm into MagsR territory, Nothing to back it up, please, treat this as a denial!
:)

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 16:30

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883634)
If your bail conditions allow, and you hurry back quickly, you could perhaps even join us in paying for it all.

;)

Whether I'm there or not, I will be paying for it through my taxes - so what's your problem?

garinda 15-02-2011 16:33

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883630)
Fireworks, eh? This is excellent news; in fact,seems to be getting better every day. I trust that some of the pet owning republicans on here will appreciate the noise as their dogs and cats go berserk on this wonderful day. Now I'm more than ever tempted to return north for these great celebrations - it will certainly save me spending money on flags and bunting and the like.

The civic celebration's taking place in the Market Hall.

There are only two thrones, and Peter and Marlene will be enthroned on those. So it'll be standing room only...for Katex, Neil, and yourself.

So you might want to keep a little stool under your costume.

;)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1120/...e74317eeeb.jpg

garinda 15-02-2011 16:38

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883638)
Whether I'm there or not, I will be paying for it through my taxes - so what's your problem?

No problem.

As a resident of London, I was unaware that you paid council tax to Hyndburn Borough Council. The body who are actually spending money on this local jamboree.

I didn't know money from Tower Hamlet's found it's way into HBC's coffers.

:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 16:38

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Don't do a thread wander - it's bad form. Answer the question instead.

garinda 15-02-2011 16:41

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883644)
Don't do a thread wander - it's bad form. Answer the question instead.

See above.

;)

Less 15-02-2011 16:41

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883644)
Don't do a thread wander - it's bad form. Answer the question instead.

Good God Man!

A thread wander?

This thread has over 10 pages, whom, with what wander and evasive post do you mean?

garinda 15-02-2011 16:47

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883644)
Don't do a thread wander - it's bad form. Answer the question instead.

You, and the Accy Web members from Hull, Spain, and Scotland, who voted yes, won't directly be funding these celebrations in Hyndburn.

That honour will fall on local residents, who'll provide the money via their council taxes.

Of course you are entitled to vote, and are very welcome to say we should have these planned events, and fork out money to pay for them.

The fact is the vast majority of residents happen to disagree.

;)

garinda 15-02-2011 16:50

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883647)
Good God Man!

A thread wander?

This thread has over 10 pages, whom, with what wander and evasive post do you mean?

Isn't it a thread wander, to comment on an accusation of thread wandering?

:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 16:52

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883643)
No problem.

As a resident of London, I was unaware that you paid council tax to Hyndburn Borough Council. The body who are actually spending money on this local jamboree.

I didn't know money from Tower Hamlet's found it's way into HBC's coffers.

:rolleyes:

Who said 'owt about me paying the local council tax to HBC? Do you think I'm stupid?

Why don't you google the finances for HBC? I can't be bothered now, but if you do, you'll find that they received about £15m from the local council taxpayers. In addition, they received about another £7m which was sent up from London. That is money collected from every taxpayer in the land - including me.

You may also have seen today's news about Barclays Bank and their profits of £6bn. About a third of that is going to end up in the UK treasury; some of that in turn will end up in the coffers of HBC. Barclays Bank HQ location - Churchill Place, Tower Hamlets. Almost next door to HSBC, who will probably be paying even more into the UK Treasury and neither of whom received money in the taxpayer bailout.

Less 15-02-2011 16:53

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883655)
Isn't it a thread wander, to comment on an accusation of thread wandering?

:rolleyes:

I could reply, and take up quite a few Mega-bytes of server usage, but that would be a thread wander.

garinda 15-02-2011 16:56

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883656)
Do you think I'm stupid?

Yes, and as on this issue, I doubt I'm alone.

(Perhaps I should start a poll, to further prove the point.)

:rolleyes:

garinda 15-02-2011 16:59

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883656)
Who said 'owt about me paying the local council tax to HBC? Do you think I'm stupid?

Why don't you google the finances for HBC? I can't be bothered now, but if you do, you'll find that they received about £15m from the local council taxpayers. In addition, they received about another £7m which was sent up from London. That is money collected from every taxpayer in the land - including me.

You may also have seen today's news about Barclays Bank and their profits of £6bn. About a third of that is going to end up in the UK treasury; some of that in turn will end up in the coffers of HBC. Barclays Bank HQ location - Churchill Place, Tower Hamlets. Almost next door to HSBC, who will probably be paying even more into the UK Treasury and neither of whom received money in the taxpayer bailout.

I asked earlier in the thread how you're celebrating Will's taking Kate up the aisle, in the Peoples' Republic of Tower Hamlets.

I'm sure we'd all love to know, if you'd care to share the information.

:rolleyes:

garinda 15-02-2011 17:14

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883657)
I could reply, and take up quite a few Mega-bytes of server usage, but that would be a thread wander.

Perhaps the forum should have a little chart.

So members could gauge if they were nearing their recommended daily/monthy/annual post allowance.

;)

Back on to the subject's thread. I'll ask again.

Was any councillor, or anyone else present, when the question was offically asked of the Leader, exactly how much the budget for the events will be?

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 17:15

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883659)
I asked earlier in the thread how you're celebrating Will's taking Kate up the aisle, in the Peoples' Republic of Tower Hamlets.

I'm sure we'd all love to know, if you'd care to share the information.

:rolleyes:

With some good champagne and foie gras.

What about you? Presumably locked indoors watching back episodes of Corrie or Big Brother, supping tea and eating a cheese butty.

garinda 15-02-2011 17:23

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883665)
With some good champagne and foie gras.

But what about your council's offical celebrations?

What great things have they planned?

How much budget has been set aside to fund it?

We need to know, so we don't look like the poor country cousin.

If your council is planning very lavish public events, HBC might want to up their spending, so we don't look mean.

Please feel free to share with us your London council's full programme of events in Tower Hamlets.

garinda 15-02-2011 17:39

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883669)
But what about your council's offical celebrations?

What great things have they planned?

How much budget has been set aside to fund it?

We need to know, so we don't look like the poor country cousin.

If your council is planning very lavish public events, HBC might want to up their spending, so we don't look mean.

Please feel free to share with us your London council's full programme of events in Tower Hamlets.

Teabag you will have to share with us how your council is royally planning to spend money celebrating this wedding.

Try as I might, all I'm coming up with is hard-line Muslim politicans, who haven't yet publicised your own programme in Tower Hamlets.

I did find your local anarchist group's plans, re: the royal wedding, but they seemed more violent, than celebratory in concept.

jaysay 15-02-2011 17:41

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883658)
Yes, and as on this issue, I doubt I'm alone.

(Perhaps I should start a poll, to further prove the point.)

:rolleyes:

Dare ya:D

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 17:41

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883669)
But what about your council's offical celebrations?

What great things have they planned?

How much budget has been set aside to fund it?

We need to know, so we don't look like the poor country cousin.

If your council is planning very lavish public events, HBC might want to up their spending, so we don't look mean.

Please feel free to share with us your London council's full programme of events in Tower Hamlets.

£240,000

Fireworks, street parties, etc.

Roads closed off.

Don't have the full details yet.

Happy now?

garinda 15-02-2011 17:46

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883675)
£240,000

Fireworks, street parties, etc.

Roads closed off.

Don't have the full details yet.

Happy now?

Wow!

A near quarter of a million budget.

Let's hope that figure shames our own council.

All we require now is evidence of that figure, from some offical source, and then yes, we'll be happy.

We'll wait for you to provide that...

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 17:54

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883677)
Wow!

A near quarter of a million budget.

Let's hope that figure shames our own council.

All we require now is evidence of that figure, from some offical source, and then yes, we'll be happy.

We'll wait for you to provide that...

Why should I waste time doing that? If you lot want to be a bunch of puritanical misers, then go ahead and find the evidence; me, I'm just happy to party.

garinda 15-02-2011 17:57

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883675)
£240,000

Fireworks, street parties, etc.

Roads closed off.

Don't have the full details yet.

Happy now?

No one here has the slightest problem with people having their own street parties, or that the council has waived the fee for any road closures that might occur because of them.

If people want to sit in the wind and rain, whilst eating their jelly and ice creams, with the wet bunting flapping above, good for them.

Though judging by the apathetic reaction on here, with even the ardent royalists apparently prefering to watch the wedding in the comfort of their own homes, it'll be interessting to see just how many street parties there'll be in Hyndburn.

The vast majority of people are objecting to money being spent on a programme of civic celebrations, that we are told will centre around the Market Hall.

Big difference.

;)

garinda 15-02-2011 18:00

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883683)
Why should I waste time doing that? If you lot want to be a bunch of puritanical misers, then go ahead and find the evidence; me, I'm just happy to party.

Offering proof, of something you posted?

Because otherwise it becomes meaningless, and some could say that it perhaps wasn't true.

That's why.

;)

Less 15-02-2011 18:00

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883686)
No one here has the slightest problem with people having their own street parties, or that the council has waived the fee for any road closures that might occur because of them.

If people want to sit in the wind and rain, whilst eating their jelly and ice creams, with the wet bunting flapping above, good for them.

Though judging by the apathetic reaction on here, with even the ardent royalists apparently prefering to watch the wedding in the comfort of their own homes, it'll be interessting to see just how many street parties there'll be in Hyndburn.

The vast majority of people are objecting to money being spent on a programme of civic celebrations, that we are told will centre around the Market Hall.

Big difference.

;)

The figure from one Borough to another means nothing, we're all in it together, your debt is my debt, be honest we don't need road sweepers or other such folk so long as WE ARE HAPPY.

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 18:01

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
So what's HBC's budget then?

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 18:06

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883689)
Offering proof, of something you posted?

Because otherwise it becomes meaningless, and some could say that it perhaps wasn't true.

That's why.

;)

Up yours. You started this nonsense about the LBTH/HBC comparison. You find it.

Everyone who knows me on here knows that my word is my bond. Do you want me to type this out in my own blood?

Less 15-02-2011 18:07

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883691)
So what's HBC's budget then?


Ask Ken when he comes on later, his lot will have to pay for it when the bill arrives in May...

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 18:12

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883696)
Ask Ken when he comes on later, his lot will have to pay for it when the bill arrives in May...

Well, I just hope he is a bit more accurate with his figures on the fireworks than he was on the eye-tie cook.

garinda 15-02-2011 18:12

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883691)
So what's HBC's budget then?

Er...that's what we all want to know.

If you'd read the thread (post 142) you'd see the question was asked and recorded in the minutes of a meeting in council chambers, but sadly not the Leader's response.

Any how, as it stands, to the question should HBC spend tax payers' money on a programme of wedding celebrations...

3 Hyndburn residents have voted yes.

46 Hyndburn residents have voted no.

As a small, yet diverse sample of residents in the borough, the people of Hyndburn have spoken, and said...

NO!
;)

Less 15-02-2011 18:19

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883699)
Well, I just hope he is a bit more accurate with his figures on the fireworks than he was on the eye-tie cook.

He won't have to be accurate, He'll be in power.
:rofl38:

garinda 15-02-2011 18:20

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883695)
Up yours. You started this nonsense about the LBTH/HBC comparison. You find it.

Everyone who knows me on here knows that my word is my bond. Do you want me to type this out in my own blood?

I couldn't find any budgets, or even an offical programme, to celebrate the royal wedding in Tower Hamlets.

All we ask is evidence the council's budget is £240,000.00, as you stated it was.

Once we know our own budget, we'll be able to make interesting comparissons as to the worth of each.

As posted, there's no hurry. We'll wait for you to provide the evidence.

garinda 15-02-2011 18:27

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883708)
He won't have to be accurate, He'll be in power.
:rofl38:

In fairness to Cllr. Moss, the figure he was first told, when he enquired about Silly Dildo's personal appearance, and what the actual full costs were, which were only revealed after HBC was forced to publish spending expenses, meant the difference in totals wasn't down to him.

That blame can be claimed by those officals who seemed to want to hide the full costs.

Less 15-02-2011 18:27

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883700)
Er...that's what we all want to know.

If you'd read the thread (post 142) you'd see the question was asked and recorded in the minutes of a meeting in council chambers, but sadly not the Leader's response.

Any how, as it stands, to the question should HBC spend tax payers' money on a programme of wedding celebrations...

3 Hyndburn residents have voted yes.

46 Hyndburn residents have voted no.

As a small, yet diverse sample of residents in the borough, the people of Hyndburn have spoken, and said...

NO!
;)

This is where I can see you and I falling out, the Poll which you started invited an opinion, seven, that is the number seven, people voted in favour, it doesn't ask from where.

That is still less than the 80%of the total Poll for, some of those against aren't paying, some of them are from afar, it is an opinion, in future if you do a Poll keep it anonymous or I won't vote, none of this segregation was mentioned in the rules.
:mad:

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 18:41

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883709)
Once we know our own budget, we'll be able to make interesting comparissons as to the worth of each.

As posted, there's no hurry. We'll wait for you to provide the evidence.

.

So you can start with finding out exactly what the HBC budget is.

Until then, stop bothering with what's happening down in the smoke. This is the Accy website, not THBC. And while you're at it - stop bullying Katex. I was disgusted by the way the poor lady was subject to the most savage assaults, unparalleled in its naked brutality in the annals of Accy Web. As a sound patriot and proud subject of Her Majesty and her heirs and descendants and with a true grasp of history, she should have been treated with far more courtesy than this.


Less 15-02-2011 18:46

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883727)
.

So you can start with finding out exactly what the HBC budget is.

Until then, stop bothering with what's happening down in the smoke. This is the Accy website, not THBC. And while you're at it - stop bullying Katex. I was disgusted by the way the poor lady was subject to the most savage assaults, unparalleled in its naked brutality in the annals of Accy Web. As a sound patriot and proud subject of Her Majesty and her heirs and descendants and with a true grasp of history, she should have been treated with far more courtesy than this.

Who sold you that high Horse?
:)

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 18:49

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883730)
Who sold you that high Horse?
:)

Someone has to be the keeper of the moral flame.

Margaret Pilkington 15-02-2011 19:00

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883731)
Someone has to be the keeper of the moral flame.


so who died and made you that person then(keeper of the moral flame)??

cashman 15-02-2011 19:01

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883730)
Who sold you that high Horse?
:)

seems like the nag that was electrocuted in the stalls the other day.:D

JCB 15-02-2011 19:05

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883700)

As a small, yet diverse sample of residents in the borough, the people of Hyndburn have spoken, and said...

NO!

That's the problem with polls , Garinda .

As you say a small sample of residents have said NO .

You can't go from there and say the people of Hyndburn have said NO .

Margaret Pilkington 15-02-2011 19:11

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Maybe the people of Hyndburn didn't get asked.......so who knows what would be the outcome if they were?

I think there must be many folk who think that frivolous spending should be reined in, while there are such serious financial difficulties.......that these difficulties exist, cannot be argued with.
On a personal level I would rather keep the toilets open and the streets cleaned, than have fireworks to celebrate a Royal Wedding.......but that is just my view.
Pay the rent first...buy the cakes later.

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 19:18

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 883738)
seems like the nag that was electrocuted in the stalls the other day.:D

Was she on Accy Web...let me guess..?????

garinda 15-02-2011 19:20

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883716)
This is where I can see you and I falling out, the Poll which you started invited an opinion, seven, that is the number seven, people voted in favour, it doesn't ask from where.

That is still less than the 80%of the total Poll for, some of those against aren't paying, some of them are from afar, it is an opinion, in future if you do a Poll keep it anonymous or I won't vote, none of this segregation was mentioned in the rules.
:mad:

Fall out with me if you will. I certainly won't lose any sleep about it..

The poll is open to anyone, true.

It provides a number of statistics and information which can be gleamed from those facts.

We can look at the over all figures, which show a vast majority voted no.

Similarly we can see how the people who'll directly fund the planned civic events have voted. Which again was against the propsals, in an equally decisive majority of no voters.

It is an open poll.

Though I, and others, questioned the motives of some, who recently received a virtual thrashing for example. When they'd posted that Accrington's streets are more violent than anywhere else in the country, and on the evidence of a dog being stabbed, were glad they'd fled north of the border.

Call it intuition, but I fear some might be just trying to swing the vote because of spite. There are some petty souls.

Statistics are there to be used. As evidenced by the phrase popularised by Mark Twain about 'Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

I've already pointed out that the no voters cover the political spectrum, as well making note of geographical location.

From ardent royalist, staunch republicans, self-proclaimed anarchists, and the many moderates in between, they've said no. All of which proof was provided by evidence in this open poll.

If I feel the need to use this proof to illustrate that this small cross-section of Hyndburn residents don't want local taxes spent on royal wedding celebrations in the borough, I will continue to do so. Until it's pointed out that it's against forum rules.

I might now work out if hair colour, and height have any sway on how people have voted.

Margaret Pilkington 15-02-2011 19:23

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883727)
.

So you can start with finding out exactly what the HBC budget is.

Until then, stop bothering with what's happening down in the smoke. This is the Accy website, not THBC. And while you're at it - stop bullying Katex. I was disgusted by the way the poor lady was subject to the most savage assaults, unparalleled in its naked brutality in the annals of Accy Web. As a sound patriot and proud subject of Her Majesty and her heirs and descendants and with a true grasp of history, she should have been treated with far more courtesy than this.

Aah, there was me thinking you had grown a little bit of sensitivity.......alas, I see I was wrong.

Less 15-02-2011 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 883738)
seems like the nag that was electrocuted in the stalls the other day.:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883757)
Was she on Accy Web...let me guess..?????

No, he just told you she was in one of the stalls, must have been a lucky mare, finding the toilets open!

garinda 15-02-2011 19:26

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 883742)
That's the problem with polls , Garinda .

As you say a small sample of residents have said NO .

You can't go from there and say the people of Hyndburn have said NO .

I didn't.

I said the people of Hyndburn who'd voted had said no.

Either way, from the evidence, and apparent lack of support, if this small cross-section is anything to go by, if I was about to launch the celebrations, I hope I'd have sense to take notice of the apparent mood.

garinda 15-02-2011 19:29

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883716)
in future if you do a Poll keep it anonymous or I won't vote

No.

It's an option to be used.

'If' I think a poll might be of interest, it will be open, unless that option is removed.

cashman 15-02-2011 19:30

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883767)
I didn't.

I said the people of Hyndburn who'd voted had said no.

Either way, from the evidence, and apparent lack of support, if this small cross-section is anything to go by, if I was about to launch the celebrations, I hope I'd have sense to take notice of the apparent mood.

Yeh but you aint Yellow Ribbon.:rolleyes:

Less 15-02-2011 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883760)
Fall out with me if you will. I certainly won't lose any sleep about it..

The poll is open to anyone, true.

It provides a number of statistics and information which can be gleamed from those facts.

We can look at the over all figures, which show a vast majority voted no.

Similarly we can see how the people who'll directly fund the planned civic events have voted. Which again was against the propsals, in an equally decisive majority of no voters.

It is an open poll.

Though I, and others, questioned the motives of some, who recently received a virtual thrashing for example. When they'd posted that Accrington's streets are more violent than anywhere else in the country, and on the evidence of a dog being stabbed, were glad they'd fled north of the border.

Call it intuition, but I fear some might be just trying to swing the vote because of spite. There are some petty souls.

Statistics are there to be used. As evidenced by the phrase popularised by Mark Twain about 'Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

I've already pointed out that the no voters cover the political spectrum, as well making note of geographical location.

From ardent royalist, staunch republicans, self-proclaimed anarchists, and the many moderates in between, they've said no. All of which proof was provided by evidence in this open poll.

If I feel the need to use this proof to illustrate that this small cross-section of Hyndburn residents don't want local taxes spent on royal wedding celebrations in the borough, I will continue to do so. Until it's pointed out that it's against forum rules.

I might now work out if hair colour, and height have any sway on how people have voted.

Congratulations, the biggest load of balls posted on here for some time, the shame is I agree with most of what you say about council spending on this item but not how you're going about it.
However if I'm upsetting you, please be petty enough to put me on your ignore list.

garinda 15-02-2011 19:34

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883727)
.

So you can start with finding out exactly what the HBC budget is.

Until then, stop bothering with what's happening down in the smoke. This is the Accy website, not THBC. And while you're at it - stop bullying Katex. I was disgusted by the way the poor lady was subject to the most savage assaults, unparalleled in its naked brutality in the annals of Accy Web. As a sound patriot and proud subject of Her Majesty and her heirs and descendants and with a true grasp of history, she should have been treated with far more courtesy than this.

We're trying to find out our budget, and are hopeful that a councillor present might share what the Council Leader said, when asked what is was.

We're also still hopeful you'll provide the evidence of your own council's £240,000.00 wedding celebration budget.

:rolleyes:

garinda 15-02-2011 19:36

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 883779)
Congratulations, the biggest load of balls posted on here for some time, the shame is I agree with most of what you say about council spending on this item but not how you're going about it.
However if I'm upsetting you, please be petty enough to put me on your ignore list.

You're not upsetting me.

I think it's amusing.

For quite some time you only seem to have problems with women.

:dummy2:

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 19:39

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883760)
It provides a number of statistics and information which can be gleamed from those facts.

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You're obviously not a statistician. 56 votes out of a Hyndburn population of 80,000 is sweet buggar all and no way can be regarded as a represntative sample.

If you then take out the resident loonatics, oddballs, marxist-leninists, drunkards and wife-beaters, you're left with about seven people who are capable of making a rational decision on expenditure on the Royal Wedding spending.

Funny, innit, how all those have voted for.


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