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Funny? Evidence suggests they find it otherwise. |
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If you were the usual Rindy you wouldn't try hurting me by attacking what you think is my weak point. I for one can't understand it, but feel free, I know you wouldn't be like this normally. A joke here, a bitchy remark there but in control, not like this. |
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Whatever HBC spends on the royal wedding will be too much, in these times of drastic cuts priorities should be saving jobs and services not frittering away funds on street parties and the like.No matter which part of the country it is North or South it makes no difference its a waste of money.!!!!!!!!:enough:
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Am lucky to have a similar, yet inbuilt facility, which allows me to do just that. Boring? Whoosh. On to something that isn't. ;) |
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Is it that the population of Hyndburn are inherently republican, with a political strain lying somewhere between Cromwellian puritism and the mad mullahs of Iran? Is it that the population of Hyndburn is not prepared to take part in a celebration that will invariably boost the national economy? Is it that Hyndburn has finally acknowledged that it is a third-world borough, on a par with some of the poorer towns on the Indian sub-continent, and so can't afford a little knees-up? Answers, please. |
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For God's sake get real. If I've broken forum rules report me. If not I will carry on as normal. Which in this case is saying something is wrong, and considering the savage cuts we're only just begining to see, I'd say was verging on the immoral. If I want to differentiate evidence that can be gleamed from a public poll, to illustrate public opinion, I will do. |
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You are right......we can't afford a knees up......if we can't afford a public convenience, then how can we afford a celebration?
So Hyndburn buying a few fireworks is going to boost the national economy....give over! The rental of a large screen TV for the Market Hall is not going to do much for the national economy either.......bunting and flags, we probably still have some left over from the last Royal wedding. I don't think we are a borough of Cromwellian Puritans/Mad Mullahs, we are just realists who want to see our money spent wisely on things that will benefit the people of the borough.......not give an ego boost to the leader of the council. |
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Your tiny little foot stompimg amused me. ;) |
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Well, let's hope it doesn't eh?
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He might get a nice new medal as well:rolleyes::D
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I'm typing with a mouthful of pins. I have actually been a guest at a royal wedding. When my then partner's best chum Daniel, married Sarah Armstrong-Jones. Nice. Quiet do, but nice. The bride's old gran put on a lovely spread at Clarence House. Besides a few coppers, not much cost to the public purse at all. ;) |
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You only need to take a walk around the town center to see if spending money on a "party" is right or not.
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Allegedly Cashy....................c'mon!! ;) |
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Spending money on irrelevancies, like this wedding, is just irresponsible. |
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At this very minute there's probably an instruction video about to be launched on YouTube. Showing us exactly what steps we need to do for 'Knees Up Mother Haworth', and how to do the 'Lambeth Walk' (To the Upstairs Cafe - Remix.) ;):D |
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Are you still doing the Jane Fonda workout with that leopard skin leotard? |
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Do you seriously expect HBC to send out a letter to every constituent asking their authority for every penny spent? Do the sums: HBC expenditure on local services = £22million HBC expenditure on postal consultation = £22billion I think you've had enough, Bernadette and it's time you went to bed. |
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I have resisted posting in this thread up until now. But I feel that this is an inappropriate use of Council Tax Payer's money. Especially so, when the government has reduced its grants to Hyndburn by an extremely hefty amount of money.
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This is not a private poll. I think some people do not vote because they don't want ridiculing for not agreeing with some vocal members as has happened in this case. |
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Just what would the rest of the country think of the town if it was to blatantly turn it's face to our Wills & Kate? Not much, I think; out the door would go any external investment, jobs down the pan, long dole queues - the constant spiral of economic and social decline. And all because of a few idiots who when they are not wearing their burka for bed are busy preaching republican clap-trap on here. |
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Last year there were 2 HBC funded events in parks in Hyndburn that I remember and a few other events I cant remember ( its late sorry ). Would Labour still fund such events or will they be a thing of the past if Labour are in control in May |
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As has been pointed out, the overwhelming no vote covers the whole range of the political spectrum. From the Tory faithful to the reds under the bed, and the many moderates in between, all say a resounding NO. The actual number of non-Hyndburn residents who voted no, has also been given in this thread. I'm suprised you didn't see it. The number of Hyndburn residents who voted yes remains at three. You, and two others. |
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whats the royal wedding to do wi other events?:confused: this wedding aint local fer starters.
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When was the last time Hyndburn spent council taxes on royal weddings.. when I was up there the pubs were opened all day and that was it... some streets did put a bit of a do on but I doubt it was paid for by the council.
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Just out of interest, why didn't we see a similar level of opposition to the council funded Melas over the last few years?
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We'll be waiting until tomorrow now. At this appallingly slow snail's pace I'm glad you aren't organising the wedding celebrations. They'd have had their first baby whilst you were still looking for the confetti. |
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Otherwise, if you've nothing better to say, then go to bed. |
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No one minds that fees to close streets for parties are being waived. Good luck to them, if they want to eat butties sat in damp spring streets, and pay for the privilege themselves. |
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It's minuted that Cllr. Britcliffe was asked what the budget was, but his answer wasn't. We're waiting with bated breath for the answer to be pased on to us, hopefully from a fellow councillor who was present at the meeting. So, your own council's very precise budget figure of £240.000.00 was sourced from where? |
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:eek: When asked what your own council's programme of events was, to celebrate the royal wedding in the Peoples' Republic of Tower Hamlets, and what budget has been allocated for it. Actually there might not be too much planned, or much/any money to spend on it. So, in an act of futility you made up some guff, and grabbed the figure of two hundred and forty grand out of fresh air. It would help explain your reticence in providing the source of the figure. :eek: Nah. Surely no one could be that desperate. So, where did the figure of £240,000.00 come from? :rolleyes: |
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Anyway, well done apologists, for keeping this thread active.
That no vote keeps on rising. |
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The borough is strapped for cash, the government is reigning in the hand outs, yet PB thinks it is OK to squander money on there unwarranted celebrations........will the council workers who get the heave-ho feel like celebrating the loss of their jobs? It would be a relatively simple task for the council leader to make an announcement to the effect 'In the current financial situation, the council feel that public service responsibilities come ahead of celebrating the Royal Wedding'......but then it wouldn't avail him of any photo opportunites to massage his ego. |
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I actually think a lot of people on here are going to be terribly disappointed if Labour take control in May, if their past performances at disposing of cash is anything to go by;)
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The accusation that there's some political agenda at work here, in thinking money should not be spent celebrating this occasion locally is ludicrous. For once on here, there seems there's political unity, in opposing spending council taxes on this, when we are seeing such savage cuts in services, and the threat of job losses. I've certainly no political axe to grind. The Leader of the Council, who seems to be the one pushing for the planned celebrations, happens to be my own ward councillor, and whom I voted for last May. The pathetic cry of political bias only seems to work one way, in the eyes of the party faithful. Though personally I've yet to be criticised of any anti-Labour bias, on the many times I've been scathing and critical of the last government. This issue is about right and wrong. The majority of us here think it's wrong. |
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Er...care to explain how it has? There is opposition across the political divide. Love to read your explanation as to how this is a political issue. |
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Certainly not by me. Please feel free to copy and paste any evidence to the contrary. For the majority of people who've voted or expressed an opinion, it seems very much a right versus wrong issue, in the current economic crisis. Lots of people think it's wrong to spend council taxes on celebratory civic events. Very clear cut, in the eyes of the vast majority. |
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A greater number of people think it isn't right spending any money on royal wedding celebrations in Hyndburn. That's fact. |
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It's also a fact that no one as yet provided evidence that 'Its just become another Britcliffe slagging thread', which somehow 'has only cheapened the thread'. That seems more likely to be evidence that someone is trying to score cheap political points, when most everyone else hasn't. For instance saying the spending is wrong, but surmising it would be three times as wrong if we had a Labour controlled council. Could be there are a few with a political agenda, when for most of us the issue is very much right versus wrong. ;) |
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It matters not one jot who is in power........I would still be saying 'NO'.......unless, that is, there was money to spare for such frivolity.
I have mentioned Councillor Britcliffe.......isn't he supposed to be Leader of the Council? If that is the case then he should lead by example and veto and squandering of our local taxes for such an event........I would have much more respect for a leader who displays a grasp of the pressures on the local economy. However, in my opinion(and it is only my opinion) he is going to spend the money hoping that it will catch votes at the local election, which is pretty hot on the heels of this event. As they say in the farming community......it is poor soil that needs a lot of top dressing, or Fur coat and no knickers. |
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I've not voiced an opinion up until now as I am an outsider looking in, but common sense dictates that if you haven't got the money to spend you shouldn't be offering it up. Although I believe somewhere there was mention of the Council being in credit, good for them, but if that money is to be used then use it on what people need & not what is presumed they want !
As individuals we are required to set our priorities based on our needs (although some would sooner feed their wants, then bitch like hell about having nothing) or we would very soon be on our arses. That being so then those in authority should endeavour to maintain the same attitudes of sensible balancing surely ? |
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'People love to party and the Royal Wedding of William and Kate provides a great opportunity for a good old "knees up". We are planning a whole host of events here in Hyndburn and also want to make it as easy as possible for local people to celebrate this historic event in your own way including staging your own street party. Ideas are very much at the early stages, but we'd like to have our very our own Hyndburn Royal Wedding festival over the Easter weekend starting on Friday 22 April, taking in St George's day on Monday 25 April and then over the following weekend starting on the big day itself 29 April and running until the May Day Bank Holiday on Mon 2 May. Watch the Observer for more news as ideas are firmed up.'
Leaders Viewpoint February 2011 Well, Jay, seeing as it was Councillor Britcliffe who announced this in the first place, how on earth do you expect posters NOT to mention him? :rolleyes: |
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i notice the people who want this to be funded at our expense are in an overwheliming minority so in the good old traditional british way it looks like they win :rolleyes:
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Looks like we might be on the hook for this post-wedding visit CBC News - Canada - Prince William, Kate to visit Canada But we can afford it:D; so, outside of la belle province, I don't think there will be many complaints.
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Come on Rindy stop sulking, surely you agree with that? :-) |
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If you notice I've posted in this thread throughout the day. Ever since I had to stuck your li'l titty bottle back in. Which I stil find amusing. Nothing much more to add. Faced with cuts to services, and likely job losses, spending money on royal wedding celebrations in Hyndburn I think is wrong, insensitive, and verging on the immoral. I'll add a li'l funny face, so you'll hopefully know it's the real, and not some mythical poster, using the same log in. :D |
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We'll try this... Rindy, I humbly apologise for whatever it was you imagined I deserved your vicious rant for, I will never disagree with you in the slightest way, you are obviously superior and although I meant you no harm with whatever upset you, I deserve severe castigation for even thinking it. (even though I didn't) Does that make you feel better? I thought we were mates, please, prove me right. (I still think by the way, no need to worry about the foreigners voting, the no vote as represented as it is on here is a landslide). |
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I think it's too important an issue for that. You disagreed with how I gave facts gleamed from the open poll. I defended my right to do so, and still do. So we'll have to agree to disagree. As for being vicious, besides making reference to your comic relationship to someone who apparently has you on ignore, I wasn't. So, back on thread... |
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As I keep saying to The Emperor, the residents of Hyndburn are bothered about frontline services first and foremost, not overly-expensive parades and photo opportunities with the Queen of the May. Still, after he herded his sheep into the overview and scrutiny meeting yesterday to bleat on about 13 years of Labour rule it's good to know that I'm on really impartial committee which isn't in any way chaired by someone whose true colours shine through when the Leader is present. I wish that you had the capability to come to such meetings, John. You might find that your view of the collossal ego that rules Hyndburn's future isn't quite so rosy these days. |
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If, and I agree this thread is important, you wish to continue, put your insults in a P.M. and leave the thread alone, it's your input to me that is dragging it further down, insult me if you want, but tell me why you wish to be so nasty. P.S. I look forward to answering it. |
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Plenty in the pubs because it was a holiday . Just a few street parties . And most who were interested watching it on the TV. Let people do their own thing at their own expense . |
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We had snow last April. The fact that the wedding is in the spring might put off all but the most determined of street party throwers. |
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What goes around comes around, Peter. |
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It certainly doesn't bother me, if it bothers him it smacks of a guilty conscience. |
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I, for one, hope he is reading Accyweb,especially this thread.
It would give him a flavour of how some of us think....though I seriously doubt that it would make a blind bit of difference to his plans. He might be good at showboating, but he has no leadership skills that are discernible to the voting public of the borough. |
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To be honest i dont think he is that good at that either.The thoughts of the people of this borough count for nothing when it comes to point scoring and one up manship, it seems to be totally crass to me that hbc should be seeking to waste money on this farce when draconian cuts are either on the horizon or already creating misery and stress for people.The council need to take a long hard look at their priorities in my opinion.
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What about the queens silver jubilee in 1977 ... :D all the kids got free mugs if you remember rightly .... i still have mine now .. its used daily .. as a pen holder!!!:D |
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'Hyndburn's economy is facing its toughest challenge for two decades, the council leader has admitted.'
'Finance chiefs have been tasked with chopping over 16 per cent from estimated budgets, by finding savings of £2.6 million.' Council leader: Hyndburn economy facing 'toughest challenge in 20 years' | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk Party on! :Banane20::Banane18::Banane14: |
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An honest leader, who had the boroughs interests at heart, would surely take notice of the groundswell of opinion and moderate the frivolities to the bare minimum(ie street closures for street parties at the expense of those who wanted to party). I won't hold my breath. |
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[quote=Margaret Pilkington;884178]And if he did that, it would really define his immaturity........wouldn't it?
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Well put and I agree, although I think you're being a little disingenuous to my councillor colleagues as regards the political heat. I choose to post most days and will comfortably tackle a thorny discussion head on but online debates have a tendency sometimes to get a little heated with no real outcome and some fairly wild statements so it doesn't surprise me that not everyone dives in quite so readily.
I only wish that more residents had taken up the offer of coming to Overview and Scrutiny on Tuesday to see Peter as he really is. The unbridled rage at being accused by a member of the public of owning that cafe in the Market Hall is something he usually reserves for Graham Jones. |
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Government U-turn on selling forest: Public backlash halts David Cameron | Mail Online Sometimes it is wise to gauge public feeling, which seems fairly overwhelming in this case, re: local royal wedding celebrations. I hope they realise that there doesn't seem much support for the planned programme of events. |
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I've known Peter Britcliffe since I was nine years old. We have many mutual friends, who think the world of him, away from the political arena. Even though I've been publicly critical of some planned policies under his leadership, he's been nothing but professional, helpful, and very kind to me, and even exhibited his humorous side, as recently ago as last week. He might be an ogre in council chambers, I don't know, but he's no fool. I genuinely hope he realises that spending money on these celebrations in Hyndburn would be seen as foolish by many people. I bet even William and Kate, who've called their happy day an 'austerity wedding', would agree. |
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