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garinda 15-02-2011 19:43

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883784)

Funny, innit, how all those have voted for.

Yes, in this small cross-section they've voted an overwhelming no, to their taxes being spent on local civic celebrations..

Funny?

Evidence suggests they find it otherwise.

JCB 15-02-2011 19:43

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883767)
I didn't.

I said the people of Hyndburn who'd voted had said no.

Correct . I misread your sentence . :)

garinda 15-02-2011 19:46

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 883790)
Correct . I misread your sentence . :)

Unlike some others, I do 'try' to be factual.

:rolleyes::D:)

Less 15-02-2011 19:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883782)
You're not upsetting me.

I think it's amusing.

For quite some time you only seem to have problems with women.

:dummy2:

You don't seem amused, you seem to be clutching at imaginary straws that would not be needed if you were the usual Rindy.
If you were the usual Rindy you wouldn't try hurting me by attacking what you think is my weak point.
I for one can't understand it, but feel free, I know you wouldn't be like this normally.
A joke here, a bitchy remark there but in control, not like this.

walkinman221 15-02-2011 19:59

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Whatever HBC spends on the royal wedding will be too much, in these times of drastic cuts priorities should be saving jobs and services not frittering away funds on street parties and the like.No matter which part of the country it is North or South it makes no difference its a waste of money.!!!!!!!!:enough:

garinda 15-02-2011 20:00

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 883779)
please be petty enough to put me on your ignore list.

Never felt the need for that, Princess Pernickety.

Am lucky to have a similar, yet inbuilt facility, which allows me to do just that.

Boring?

Whoosh.

On to something that isn't.

;)

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 20:04

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883789)
Yes, in this small cross-section they've voted an overwhelming no, to their taxes being spent on local civic celebrations..

Funny?

Evidence suggests they find it otherwise.

So what's your point?

Is it that the population of Hyndburn are inherently republican, with a political strain lying somewhere between Cromwellian puritism and the mad mullahs of Iran?

Is it that the population of Hyndburn is not prepared to take part in a celebration that will invariably boost the national economy?

Is it that Hyndburn has finally acknowledged that it is a third-world borough, on a par with some of the poorer towns on the Indian sub-continent, and so can't afford a little knees-up?

Answers, please.

garinda 15-02-2011 20:07

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 883797)
You don't seem amused, you seem to be clutching at imaginary straws that would not be needed if you were the usual Rindy.
If you were the usual Rindy you wouldn't try hurting me by attacking what you think is my weak point.
I for one can't understand it, but feel free, I know you wouldn't be like this normally.
A joke here, a bitchy remark there but in control, not like this.

Some mythical 'Rindy', who you feel always acts in a certain way?

For God's sake get real.

If I've broken forum rules report me.

If not I will carry on as normal.

Which in this case is saying something is wrong, and considering the savage cuts we're only just begining to see, I'd say was verging on the immoral.

If I want to differentiate evidence that can be gleamed from a public poll, to illustrate public opinion, I will do.

Less 15-02-2011 20:08

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883802)
Never felt the need for that, Princess Pernickety.

Am lucky to have a similar, yet inbuilt facility, which allows me to do just that.

Boring?

Whoosh.

On to something that isn't.

;)

I'll see how you are tomorrow, if you feel the same then, then I'll take offence, this isn't the Rindy I'm used to.

walkinman221 15-02-2011 20:10

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883806)
So what's your point?

Is it that the population of Hyndburn are inherently republican, with a political strain lying somewhere between Cromwellian puritism and the mad mullahs of Iran?

Is it that the population of Hyndburn is not prepared to take part in a celebration that will invariably boost the national economy?

Is it that Hyndburn has finally acknowledged that it is a third-world borough, on a par with some of the poorer towns on the Indian sub-continent, and so can't afford a little knees-up?

Answers, please.

Boost the NATIONAL economy any boosts will be lucky to make it ten miles north of London you will be trying to tell us that the olympics will be good for the country next:rolleyes::rolleyes:

garinda 15-02-2011 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883806)
So what's your point?

Is it that the population of Hyndburn are inherently republican, with a political strain lying somewhere between Cromwellian puritism and the mad mullahs of Iran?

Is it that the population of Hyndburn is not prepared to take part in a celebration that will invariably boost the national economy?

Is it that Hyndburn has finally acknowledged that it is a third-world borough, on a par with some of the poorer towns on the Indian sub-continent, and so can't afford a little knees-up?

Answers, please.

We'd rather you provide the answer as to where your council's £240,000.00 royal wedding budget source came from.

:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 20:11

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 883816)
I'll see how you are tomorrow, if you feel the same then, then I'll take offence, this isn't the Rindy I'm used to.

Aye, he's having a bad day...maybe he's so bitchy because he didn't get an invite to the wedding. or maybe he didn't get an invite to make the wedding dress. Or maybe the grooms underpants. I doubt we'll ever get to know.

Margaret Pilkington 15-02-2011 20:12

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You are right......we can't afford a knees up......if we can't afford a public convenience, then how can we afford a celebration?

So Hyndburn buying a few fireworks is going to boost the national economy....give over!

The rental of a large screen TV for the Market Hall is not going to do much for the national economy either.......bunting and flags, we probably still have some left over from the last Royal wedding.
I don't think we are a borough of Cromwellian Puritans/Mad Mullahs, we are just realists who want to see our money spent wisely on things that will benefit the people of the borough.......not give an ego boost to the leader of the council.

garinda 15-02-2011 20:13

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 883797)
You don't seem amused

I don't tell lies.

Your tiny little foot stompimg amused me.

;)

cashman 15-02-2011 20:15

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 883823)
You are right......we can't afford a knees up......if we can't afford a public convenience, then how can we afford a celebration?

So Hyndburn buying a few fireworks is going to boost the national economy....give over!

The rental of a large screen TV for the Market Hall is not going to do much for the national economy either.......bunting and flags, we probably still have some left over from the last Royal wedding.
I don't think we are a borough of Cromwellian Puritans/Mad Mullahs, we are just realists who want to see our money spent wisely on things that will benefit the people of the borough.......not give an ego boost to the leader of the council.

yeh but consider this, hes "P.B." happen hoping it will boost his sons ecomomy.:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 15-02-2011 20:17

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Well, let's hope it doesn't eh?

walkinman221 15-02-2011 20:19

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He might get a nice new medal as well:rolleyes::D

garinda 15-02-2011 20:20

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883822)
Aye, he's having a bad day...maybe he's so bitchy because he didn't get an invite to the wedding. or maybe he didn't get an invite to make the wedding dress. Or maybe the grooms underpants. I doubt we'll ever get to know.

Invite?

I'm typing with a mouthful of pins.

I have actually been a guest at a royal wedding. When my then partner's best chum Daniel, married Sarah Armstrong-Jones.

Nice. Quiet do, but nice.

The bride's old gran put on a lovely spread at Clarence House.

Besides a few coppers, not much cost to the public purse at all.

;)

walkinman221 15-02-2011 20:21

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You only need to take a walk around the town center to see if spending money on a "party" is right or not.

heth 15-02-2011 20:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 883829)
yeh but consider this, hes "P.B." happen hoping it will boost his sons ecomomy.:rolleyes:



Allegedly Cashy....................c'mon!! ;)

Margaret Pilkington 15-02-2011 20:23

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 883839)
You only need to take a walk around the town center to see if spending money on a "party" is right or not.

Yes, in that respect, Tealeaf is right........we are a third world borough.

Spending money on irrelevancies, like this wedding, is just irresponsible.

garinda 15-02-2011 20:27

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 883823)
You are right......we can't afford a knees up......


At this very minute there's probably an instruction video about to be launched on YouTube.

Showing us exactly what steps we need to do for 'Knees Up Mother Haworth', and how to do the 'Lambeth Walk' (To the Upstairs Cafe - Remix.)

;):D

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 21:33

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883845)
At this very minute there's probably an instruction video about to be launched on YouTube.


;):D

Enjoy!

Are you still doing the Jane Fonda workout with that leopard skin leotard?

BERNADETTE 15-02-2011 22:08

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 883750)
Maybe the people of Hyndburn didn't get asked.......so who knows what would be the outcome if they were?

I think there must be many folk who think that frivolous spending should be reined in, while there are such serious financial difficulties.......that these difficulties exist, cannot be argued with.
On a personal level I would rather keep the toilets open and the streets cleaned, than have fireworks to celebrate a Royal Wedding.......but that is just my view.
Pay the rent first...buy the cakes later.

Well said Marg, the people of Hyndburn weren't asked how their taxes should be spent unless a letter hasn't been delivered to me asking my opinion. But hey-ho once again the council will decide the best way to spend tax-payers money with complete disregard to the tax-payers opinions:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 22:16

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 883920)
Well said Marg, the people of Hyndburn weren't asked how their taxes should be spent unless a letter hasn't been delivered to me asking my opinion. But hey-ho once again the council will decide the best way to spend tax-payers money with complete disregard to the tax-payers opinions:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I take it you are now drunk, no doubt with a cheap 12 pack from the local corner shop.

Do you seriously expect HBC to send out a letter to every constituent asking their authority for every penny spent?

Do the sums:

HBC expenditure on local services = £22million

HBC expenditure on postal consultation = £22billion

I think you've had enough, Bernadette and it's time you went to bed.

garinda 15-02-2011 22:21

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883921)
I take it you are now drunk, no doubt with a cheap 12 pack from the local corner shop.

Do you seriously expect HBC to send out a letter to every constituent asking their authority for every penny spent?

Do the sums:

HBC expenditure on local services = £22million

HBC expenditure on postal consultation = £22billion

I think you've had enough, Bernadette and it's time you went to bed.

You really are a prince amongst men.

BERNADETTE 15-02-2011 22:36

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883921)
I take it you are now drunk, no doubt with a cheap 12 pack from the local corner shop.

Do you seriously expect HBC to send out a letter to every constituent asking their authority for every penny spent?

Do the sums:

HBC expenditure on local services = £22million

HBC expenditure on postal consultation = £22billion

I think you've had enough, Bernadette and it's time you went to bed.

How dare you talk to me like that??? The facts are there for anybody to see, the majority of people who voted in our poll were from the area and the majority voted against any money being spent from THEIR taxes not YOURS!!!!! IE the council taxes paid by Hyndburn residents to the council ( not the top up from the goverment, which in your boroughs case suspect will be far more than Hyndburns allocation);)

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 22:40

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 883934)
How dare you talk to me like that??? ;)

Why don't you just stick to the washing and ironing, and leave the politics to the lads?

BERNADETTE 15-02-2011 22:47

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883936)
Why don't you just stick to the washing and ironing, and leave the politics to the lads?

You really are an arrogant piece but I expected a better response than that from a MAN like you. Well never mind life is full of disappointments:)

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 22:52

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 883938)
You really are an arrogant piece but I expected a better response than that from a MAN like you. Well never mind life is full of disappointments:)

You're not going to get my mobile number with remarks like that.

claytonender 15-02-2011 22:55

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I have resisted posting in this thread up until now. But I feel that this is an inappropriate use of Council Tax Payer's money. Especially so, when the government has reduced its grants to Hyndburn by an extremely hefty amount of money.

BERNADETTE 15-02-2011 22:58

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883941)
You're not going to get my mobile number with remarks like that.

Oh Dear I'm so upset (not)

Neil 15-02-2011 23:12

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 883920)
Well said Marg, the people of Hyndburn weren't asked how their taxes should be spent unless a letter hasn't been delivered to me asking my opinion. But hey-ho once again the council will decide the best way to spend tax-payers money with complete disregard to the tax-payers opinions:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I am sorry but that is how the Council works. If your expecting a letter every time a decision is to be made it will never happen no matter who is in power.

Neil 15-02-2011 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 883934)
How dare you talk to me like that??? The facts are there for anybody to see, the majority of people who voted in our poll were from the area and the majority voted against any money being spent from THEIR taxes not YOURS!!!!! IE the council taxes paid by Hyndburn residents to the council ( not the top up from the goverment, which in your boroughs case suspect will be far more than Hyndburns allocation);)

Have a look at the no voters and try and decide how many are not politically biased or do not pay council tax to HBC.

This is not a private poll.
I think some people do not vote because they don't want ridiculing for not agreeing with some vocal members as has happened in this case.

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 23:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 883942)
I have resisted posting in this thread up until now. But I feel that this is an inappropriate use of Council Tax Payer's money. Especially so, when the government has reduced its grants to Hyndburn by an extremely hefty amount of money.

Thank you, Councillor. You have just proved my point. Despite the large reduction in central grant, HBC is still receiving a substancial amount of dosh from Whitehall and as such some of that money should be put to good use in celebrating something like the Royal Wedding.

Just what would the rest of the country think of the town if it was to blatantly turn it's face to our Wills & Kate? Not much, I think; out the door would go any external investment, jobs down the pan, long dole queues - the constant spiral of economic and social decline. And all because of a few idiots who when they are not wearing their burka for bed are busy preaching republican clap-trap on here.

cashman 15-02-2011 23:18

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 883952)
Have a look at the no voters and try and decide how many are not politically biased or do not pay council tax to HBC.

This is not a private poll.
I think some people do not vote because they don't want ridiculing for not agreeing with some vocal members as has happened in this case.

i doubt very much if political bias has owt to do wi it Neil, its voters from all 3 parties n just common sense.:rolleyes:

Neil 15-02-2011 23:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 883942)
I have resisted posting in this thread up until now. But I feel that this is an inappropriate use of Council Tax Payer's money. Especially so, when the government has reduced its grants to Hyndburn by an extremely hefty amount of money.

What is Hyndburn's Labour Party policy on publicly funded events such as this?

Last year there were 2 HBC funded events in parks in Hyndburn that I remember and a few other events I cant remember ( its late sorry ).
Would Labour still fund such events or will they be a thing of the past if Labour are in control in May

garinda 15-02-2011 23:25

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 883952)
Have a look at the no voters and try and decide how many are not politically biased or do not pay council tax to HBC.

We have.

As has been pointed out, the overwhelming no vote covers the whole range of the political spectrum. From the Tory faithful to the reds under the bed, and the many moderates in between, all say a resounding NO.

The actual number of non-Hyndburn residents who voted no, has also been given in this thread.

I'm suprised you didn't see it.

The number of Hyndburn residents who voted yes remains at three.

You, and two others.

cashman 15-02-2011 23:25

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whats the royal wedding to do wi other events?:confused: this wedding aint local fer starters.

Mancie 15-02-2011 23:27

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When was the last time Hyndburn spent council taxes on royal weddings.. when I was up there the pubs were opened all day and that was it... some streets did put a bit of a do on but I doubt it was paid for by the council.

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 23:29

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Just out of interest, why didn't we see a similar level of opposition to the council funded Melas over the last few years?

garinda 15-02-2011 23:33

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883955)
Thank you, Councillor. You have just proved my point. Despite the large reduction in central grant, HBC is still receiving a substancial amount of dosh from Whitehall and as such some of that money should be put to good use in celebrating something like the Royal Wedding.

Just what would the rest of the country think of the town if it was to blatantly turn it's face to our Wills & Kate? Not much, I think; out the door would go any external investment, jobs down the pan, long dole queues - the constant spiral of economic and social decline. And all because of a few idiots who when they are not wearing their burka for bed are busy preaching republican clap-trap on here.

Still not found the source, where your council's royal wedding celebration was stated as being £240,000.00 yet?

We'll be waiting until tomorrow now.

At this appallingly slow snail's pace I'm glad you aren't organising the wedding celebrations.

They'd have had their first baby whilst you were still looking for the confetti.

Tealeaf 15-02-2011 23:36

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883965)
Still not found the source, where your council's royal wedding celebration was stated as being £240,000.00 yet?

We'll be waiting until tomorrow now.

At this appallingly slow snail's pace I'm glad you aren't organising the wedding celebrations.

They'd have had their first baby whilst you were still looking for the confetti.

I told you. You started this nonsense; so you put your numbers on the line first, then I'll put mine on. OK?

Otherwise, if you've nothing better to say, then go to bed.

garinda 15-02-2011 23:39

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 883963)
When was the last time Hyndburn spent council taxes on royal weddings.. when I was up there the pubs were opened all day and that was it... some streets did put a bit of a do on but I doubt it was paid for by the council.

Nothing to stop people doing that now.

No one minds that fees to close streets for parties are being waived.

Good luck to them, if they want to eat butties sat in damp spring streets, and pay for the privilege themselves.

garinda 15-02-2011 23:45

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883966)
I told you. You started this nonsense; so you put your numbers on the line first, then I'll put mine on. OK?

Otherwise, if you've nothing better to say, then go to bed.

Er...that's the whole point. Sadly we don't yet know.

It's minuted that Cllr. Britcliffe was asked what the budget was, but his answer wasn't.

We're waiting with bated breath for the answer to be pased on to us, hopefully from a fellow councillor who was present at the meeting.


So, your own council's very precise budget figure of £240.000.00 was sourced from where?

garinda 16-02-2011 00:01

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 883966)
I told you. You started this nonsense; so you put your numbers on the line first, then I'll put mine on. OK?

Otherwise, if you've nothing better to say, then go to bed.

I've just had a terible thought!

:eek:

When asked what your own council's programme of events was, to celebrate the royal wedding in the Peoples' Republic of Tower Hamlets, and what budget has been allocated for it. Actually there might not be too much planned, or much/any money to spend on it.

So, in an act of futility you made up some guff, and grabbed the figure of two hundred and forty grand out of fresh air.

It would help explain your reticence in providing the source of the figure.

:eek:

Nah.

Surely no one could be that desperate.

So, where did the figure of £240,000.00 come from?

:rolleyes:

garinda 16-02-2011 00:11

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Anyway, well done apologists, for keeping this thread active.

That no vote keeps on rising.

Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2011 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 883950)
I am sorry but that is how the Council works. If your expecting a letter every time a decision is to be made it will never happen no matter who is in power.

I don't think we were expecting a letter.....but it is a no-brainer really, isn't it?
The borough is strapped for cash, the government is reigning in the hand outs, yet PB thinks it is OK to squander money on there unwarranted celebrations........will the council workers who get the heave-ho feel like celebrating the loss of their jobs?

It would be a relatively simple task for the council leader to make an announcement to the effect 'In the current financial situation, the council feel that public service responsibilities come ahead of celebrating the Royal Wedding'......but then it wouldn't avail him of any photo opportunites to massage his ego.

jaysay 16-02-2011 08:52

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I actually think a lot of people on here are going to be terribly disappointed if Labour take control in May, if their past performances at disposing of cash is anything to go by;)

cashman 16-02-2011 09:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 883993)
I actually think a lot of people on here are going to be terribly disappointed if Labour take control in May, if their past performances at disposing of cash is anything to go by;)

and that has relevance to the fact this thread is about the Royal Wedding?:confused: yeh forgot to take yer pills i think.:rolleyes::D

jaysay 16-02-2011 09:20

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 883995)
and that has relevance to the fact this thread is about the Royal Wedding?:confused: yeh forgot to take yer pills i think.:rolleyes::D

The thing is Labour would probably have spent three times the money on it :D:p:p

garinda 16-02-2011 09:53

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884000)
The thing is Labour would probably have spent three times the money on it :D:p:p

...and if they did I'm sure there'd be an equally large majority of us who thought that it would be wrong. I certainly would.

The accusation that there's some political agenda at work here, in thinking money should not be spent celebrating this occasion locally is ludicrous.

For once on here, there seems there's political unity, in opposing spending council taxes on this, when we are seeing such savage cuts in services, and the threat of job losses.

I've certainly no political axe to grind. The Leader of the Council, who seems to be the one pushing for the planned celebrations, happens to be my own ward councillor, and whom I voted for last May.

The pathetic cry of political bias only seems to work one way, in the eyes of the party faithful. Though personally I've yet to be criticised of any anti-Labour bias, on the many times I've been scathing and critical of the last government.

This issue is about right and wrong.

The majority of us here think it's wrong.

jaysay 16-02-2011 09:56

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 884004)
...and if they did I'm sure there'd be an equally large majority of us who thought that it would be wrong. I certainly would.

The accusation that there's some political agenda at work here, in thinking money should not be spent celebrating this occasion locally is ludicrous.

For once on here, there seems there's political unity, in opposing spending council taxes on this, when we are seeing such savage cuts in services, and the threat of job losses.

I've certainly no political axe to grind. The Leader of the Council, who seems to be the one pushing for the planned celebrations, happens to be my own ward councillor, and whom I voted for last May.

The pathetic cry of political bias only seems to work one way, in the eyes of the party faithful. Though personally I've yet to be criticised of any anti-Labour bias, on the many times I've been scathing and critical of the last government.

This issue is about right and wrong.

The majority of us here think it's wrong.

But it HAS been turned into a political issue, thats the only problem;)

garinda 16-02-2011 09:58

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884006)
But it HAS been turned into a political issue, thats the only problem;)


Er...care to explain how it has?

There is opposition across the political divide.

Love to read your explanation as to how this is a political issue.

jaysay 16-02-2011 10:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 884007)
Er...care to explain how it has?

There is opposition across the political divide.

Love to read your explanation as to how this is a political issue.

Its just become another Britcliffe slagging thread:(

garinda 16-02-2011 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884010)
Its just become another Britcliffe slagging thread:(

No it hasn't.

Certainly not by me.

Please feel free to copy and paste any evidence to the contrary.

For the majority of people who've voted or expressed an opinion, it seems very much a right versus wrong issue, in the current economic crisis.

Lots of people think it's wrong to spend council taxes on celebratory civic events.

Very clear cut, in the eyes of the vast majority.

jaysay 16-02-2011 10:27

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 884012)
No it hasn't.

Certainly not by me.

Please feel free to copy and paste any evidence to the contrary.

For the majority of people who've voted or expressed an opinion, it seems very much a right versus wrong issue, in the current economic crisis.

Lots of people think it's wrong to spend council taxes on celebratory civic events.

Very clear cut, in the eyes of the vast majority.

G I don't have a problem with that you may just notice I vote against as well, so I'm with you on this, okay you may not have gone down the line of BS but lots have, which has only cheapened the thread in my opinion, and after all opinions are what these sites are about, arn'y they;)

garinda 16-02-2011 10:37

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884016)
G I don't have a problem with that you may just notice I vote against as well, so I'm with you on this, okay you may not have gone down the line of BS but lots have, which has only cheapened the thread in my opinion, and after all opinions are what these sites are about, arn'y they;)

I can think of very little personal criticism aimed at Cllr. Britcliffe in this thread, or any evidence of any political agenda, so we'll have to disagree on those accusations.

A greater number of people think it isn't right spending any money on royal wedding celebrations in Hyndburn.

That's fact.

jaysay 16-02-2011 10:41

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 884018)
I can think of very little personal criticism aimed at Cllr. Britcliffe in this thread, or any evidence of any political agenda, so we'll have to disagree on those accusations.

A greater number of people think it isn't right spending any money on royal wedding celebrations in Hyndburn.

That's fact.

As you keep say, so do I and thats another fact;)

garinda 16-02-2011 11:02

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884019)
As you keep say, so do I and thats another fact;)


It's also a fact that no one as yet provided evidence that 'Its just become another Britcliffe slagging thread', which somehow 'has only cheapened the thread'.

That seems more likely to be evidence that someone is trying to score cheap political points, when most everyone else hasn't. For instance saying the spending is wrong, but surmising it would be three times as wrong if we had a Labour controlled council.

Could be there are a few with a political agenda, when for most of us the issue is very much right versus wrong.

;)

Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2011 12:00

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
It matters not one jot who is in power........I would still be saying 'NO'.......unless, that is, there was money to spare for such frivolity.

I have mentioned Councillor Britcliffe.......isn't he supposed to be Leader of the Council? If that is the case then he should lead by example and veto and squandering of our local taxes for such an event........I would have much more respect for a leader who displays a grasp of the pressures on the local economy.

However, in my opinion(and it is only my opinion) he is going to spend the money hoping that it will catch votes at the local election, which is pretty hot on the heels of this event.

As they say in the farming community......it is poor soil that needs a lot of top dressing, or Fur coat and no knickers.

DaveinGermany 16-02-2011 12:30

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
I've not voiced an opinion up until now as I am an outsider looking in, but common sense dictates that if you haven't got the money to spend you shouldn't be offering it up. Although I believe somewhere there was mention of the Council being in credit, good for them, but if that money is to be used then use it on what people need & not what is presumed they want !

As individuals we are required to set our priorities based on our needs (although some would sooner feed their wants, then bitch like hell about having nothing) or we would very soon be on our arses. That being so then those in authority should endeavour to maintain the same attitudes of sensible balancing surely ?

Wynonie Harris 16-02-2011 13:08

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
'People love to party and the Royal Wedding of William and Kate provides a great opportunity for a good old "knees up". We are planning a whole host of events here in Hyndburn and also want to make it as easy as possible for local people to celebrate this historic event in your own way including staging your own street party. Ideas are very much at the early stages, but we'd like to have our very our own Hyndburn Royal Wedding festival over the Easter weekend starting on Friday 22 April, taking in St George's day on Monday 25 April and then over the following weekend starting on the big day itself 29 April and running until the May Day Bank Holiday on Mon 2 May. Watch the Observer for more news as ideas are firmed up.'
Leaders Viewpoint February 2011

Well, Jay, seeing as it was Councillor Britcliffe who announced this in the first place, how on earth do you expect posters NOT to mention him? :rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2011 13:11

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 884031)
As individuals we are required to set our priorities based on our needs (although some would sooner feed their wants, then bitch like hell about having nothing) or we would very soon be on our arses. That being so then those in authority should endeavour to maintain the same attitudes of sensible balancing surely ?

That is the common sense approach that you would expect the local council to employ....alas, common sense isn't actually common at all.

cashman 16-02-2011 13:26

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 883501)
Questions were put to the Leader of the Council, summarised below, to which he
responded -

To ask the Leader of the Council how much he intended to spend on the proposed
royal wedding celebrations in April, bearing in mind guidance from Buckingham Palace
that this was to be an “austerity wedding” and bearing in mind the likelihood of
compulsory redundancies within the Council (Councillor Parkinson)

COUNCIL

Sadly the response isn't given here.

Any councillor present care to enlighten us?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884000)
The thing is Labour would probably have spent three times the money on it :D:p:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884006)
But it HAS been turned into a political issue, thats the only problem;)

Yes by you jaysay, even though yeh voted NO, The leader was asked what i view a perfectly reasonable question as to the costs n there was no answer, WHY? that to me is a glaring example of his disregard fer other viewpoints, how would you explain the silence? as others have stated whoever was in power the objection would be the same, as you yerself have demonstrated,so in my mind its you thats turned this into a political issue by yer above comment, i'm seriously beginning to wonder if you yerself have attempted to turn this into a P.B. slagging thread, fer yer own personal reasons? the reason i think that is cos knowing yeh, n knowing yeh aint stupid, its the only sensible reason i can think of.

accyman 16-02-2011 16:21

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
i notice the people who want this to be funded at our expense are in an overwheliming minority so in the good old traditional british way it looks like they win :rolleyes:

Eric 16-02-2011 16:37

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Looks like we might be on the hook for this post-wedding visit CBC News - Canada - Prince William, Kate to visit Canada But we can afford it:D; so, outside of la belle province, I don't think there will be many complaints.

Less 16-02-2011 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 884076)
i notice the people who want this to be funded at our expense are in an overwheliming minority so in the good old traditional british way it looks like they win :rolleyes:

Sadly, we only get the occasional vote & it's a blanket job, those of us that drag ourselves to the polling booths, don't have a say until we next go to the booth, it is interesting though that most of our representatives that do post have kept off this thread, what a shame that real democracy could not have been put into action, you want to celebrate, then you pay, don't expect it to be free it's your celebration.
Come on Rindy stop sulking, surely you agree with that?
:-)

garinda 16-02-2011 16:58

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 884081)
Come on Rindy stop sulking, surely you agree with that?
:-)

I'm much to lazy to waste energy sulking. It's a complete waste of time, like jealousy.

If you notice I've posted in this thread throughout the day.

Ever since I had to stuck your li'l titty bottle back in.

Which I stil find amusing.

Nothing much more to add.

Faced with cuts to services, and likely job losses, spending money on royal wedding celebrations in Hyndburn I think is wrong, insensitive, and verging on the immoral.

I'll add a li'l funny face, so you'll hopefully know it's the real, and not some mythical poster, using the same log in.

:D

Less 16-02-2011 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 884084)
I'm much to lazy to waste energy sulking. It's a complete waste of time, like jealousy.

If you notice I've posted in this thread throughout the day.

Ever since I had to stuck your li'l titty bottle back in.

Which I stil find amusing.

Nothing much more to add.

Faced with cuts to services, and likely job losses, spending money on royal wedding celebrations in Hyndburn I think is wrong, insensitive, and verging on the immoral.

I'll add a li'l funny face, so you'll hopefully know it's the real, and not some mythical poster, using the same log in.

:D

O.K.
We'll try this...
Rindy, I humbly apologise for whatever it was you imagined I deserved your vicious rant for, I will never disagree with you in the slightest way, you are obviously superior and although I meant you no harm with whatever upset you, I deserve severe castigation for even thinking it. (even though I didn't)
Does that make you feel better?
I thought we were mates, please, prove me right.
(I still think by the way, no need to worry about the foreigners voting, the no vote as represented as it is on here is a landslide).

garinda 16-02-2011 17:28

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 884087)
O.K.
We'll try this...
Rindy, I humbly apologise for whatever it was you imagined I deserved your vicious rant for, I will never disagree with you in the slightest way, you are obviously superior and although I meant you no harm with whatever upset you, I deserve severe castigation for even thinking it. (even though I didn't)
Does that make you feel better?
I thought we were mates, please, prove me right.
(I still think by the way, no need to worry about the foreigners voting, the no vote as represented as it is on here is a landslide).

Pease don't turn this debate into an off thread argument.

I think it's too important an issue for that.

You disagreed with how I gave facts gleamed from the open poll. I defended my right to do so, and still do. So we'll have to agree to disagree.

As for being vicious, besides making reference to your comic relationship to someone who apparently has you on ignore, I wasn't.

So, back on thread...

Ken Moss 16-02-2011 17:36

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884000)
The thing is Labour would probably have spent three times the money on it :D:p:p

Where do you get your 'facts' from? Although I maintain your right to do so, sometimes you talk absolute balls.

As I keep saying to The Emperor, the residents of Hyndburn are bothered about frontline services first and foremost, not overly-expensive parades and photo opportunities with the Queen of the May.

Still, after he herded his sheep into the overview and scrutiny meeting yesterday to bleat on about 13 years of Labour rule it's good to know that I'm on really impartial committee which isn't in any way chaired by someone whose true colours shine through when the Leader is present.

I wish that you had the capability to come to such meetings, John. You might find that your view of the collossal ego that rules Hyndburn's future isn't quite so rosy these days.

Less 16-02-2011 17:45

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 884091)
Pease don't turn this debate into an off thread argument.

I think it's too important an issue for that.

You disagreed with how I gave facts gleamed from the open poll. I defended my right to do so, and still do. So we'll have to agree to disagree.

As for being vicious, besides making reference to your comic relationship to someone who apparently has you on ignore, I wasn't.

So, back on thread...

So rather than face the fact I agree with the poll but not neccesarily with your interpretation, you continue with withering posts.

If, and I agree this thread is important, you wish to continue, put your insults in a P.M. and leave the thread alone, it's your input to me that is dragging it further down, insult me if you want, but tell me why you wish to be so nasty.

P.S. I look forward to answering it.

JCB 16-02-2011 17:48

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 883963)
When was the last time Hyndburn spent council taxes on royal weddings.. when I was up there the pubs were opened all day and that was it... some streets did put a bit of a do on but I doubt it was paid for by the council.

That's my recollection .

Plenty in the pubs because it was a holiday .

Just a few street parties .

And most who were interested watching it on the TV.

Let people do their own thing at their own expense .

jaysay 16-02-2011 17:50

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 884096)
.

I wish that you had the capability to come to such meetings, John. You might find that your view of the collossal ego that rules Hyndburn's future isn't quite so rosy these days.

There were times I used to attend every council meeting Ken, and even Group meetings too, but I gave that up long before I was incapacitated, mainly for two reasons, firstly I had to stop driving and secondly there seemed little point seeing that all items put before each committee had already been decided and they became just a rubber stamping exercise, would appear nothing much has changed in that time except the colour of the council;)

garinda 16-02-2011 17:53

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 884100)
That's my recollection .

Plenty in the pubs because it was a holiday .

Just a few street parties .

And most who were interested watching it on the TV.

Let people do their own thing at their own expense .

...and the last major royal wedding, was in July 1981.

We had snow last April.

The fact that the wedding is in the spring might put off all but the most determined of street party throwers.

jaysay 16-02-2011 17:54

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 884100)
That's my recollection .

Plenty in the pubs because it was a holiday .

Just a few street parties .

And most who were interested watching it on the TV.

Let people do their own thing at their own expense .

As I've said earlier JCB I was living in Hassy at the time but can't remember too many street parties when Charlie got wed, the last street parties I remember was when her Maj was crowned in 52 or was it 53:cool:

Ken Moss 16-02-2011 18:01

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884102)
There were times I used to attend every council meeting Ken, and even Group meetings too, but I gave that up long before I was incapacitated, mainly for two reasons, firstly I had to stop driving and secondly there seemed little point seeing that all items put before each committee had already been decided and they became just a rubber stamping exercise, would appear nothing much has changed in that time except the colour of the council;)

Up until yesterday, my faith in the Overview and Scrutiny committee has been absolute. However, Peter Britcliffe turned what should have been a private interview with the panel into a media circus and invited the public along so he could showboat. Unfortunately for him, he found out just how galling it is to be accused of owning a property which isn't his.

What goes around comes around, Peter.

jaysay 16-02-2011 18:06

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 884118)
Up until yesterday, my faith in the Overview and Scrutiny committee has been absolute. However, Peter Britcliffe turned what should have been a private interview with the panel into a media circus and invited the public along so he could showboat. Unfortunately for him, he found out just how galling it is to be accused of owning a property which isn't his.

What goes around comes around, Peter.

You wrote that as if Peter is reading it:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

JCB 16-02-2011 18:18

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884110)
the last street parties I remember was when her Maj was crowned in 52 or was it 53:cool:

Yes , Jaysay , and I remember it being a wet day . I should have gone to a bonfire in the evening but was told it was off because of the rain .

Stumped 16-02-2011 18:21

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884121)
You wrote that as if Peter is reading it:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

Reckon we should have a poll on Britcliffe: IN or OUT? I think I can guess the result of such a poll without too much stirring of the old gray matter!

jaysay 16-02-2011 18:26

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 884128)
Reckon we should have a poll on Britcliffe: IN or OUT? I think I can guess the result of such a poll without too much stirring of the old gray matter!

Would be a no brainer Stumped he's a very popular man is our Peter, in the Rose and Crown:D

jaysay 16-02-2011 18:29

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 884127)
Yes , Jaysay , and I remember it being a wet day . I should have gone to a bonfire in the evening but was told it was off because of the rain .

Ya it did rain late on, I was only about 6 at the time and there was a Street Party in Hobgson Street, but it started raining and we finished up in the Foxhill Grove Church Hall and Hartley Street

Less 16-02-2011 18:31

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 884128)
Reckon we should have a poll on Britcliffe: IN or OUT? I think I can guess the result of such a poll without too much stirring of the old gray matter!

In all honesty I wish it was a no brainer, I always want the person in control to produce the best results, but what the heck, if we had that everytime we wouldn't need to vote.

Ken Moss 16-02-2011 19:18

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884121)
You wrote that as if Peter is reading it:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

He quotes my own musings verbatim, rattles on about 'tweets' and Accyweb continually and seems incensed by the fact that I use this forum to convey what is actually happening at Britcliffe HQ.

It certainly doesn't bother me, if it bothers him it smacks of a guilty conscience.

Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2011 19:22

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
I, for one, hope he is reading Accyweb,especially this thread.
It would give him a flavour of how some of us think....though I seriously doubt that it would make a blind bit of difference to his plans.
He might be good at showboating, but he has no leadership skills that are discernible to the voting public of the borough.

heth 16-02-2011 19:44

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 884144)
I, for one, hope he is reading Accyweb,especially this thread.
It would give him a flavour of how some of us think....though I seriously doubt that it would make a blind bit of difference to his plans.
He might be good at showboating, but he has no leadership skills that are discernible to the voting public of the borough.

I agree with you Marg, but he might go against what we have all put on here just to "spite" Accyweb? :rolleyes:

walkinman221 16-02-2011 19:45

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
To be honest i dont think he is that good at that either.The thoughts of the people of this borough count for nothing when it comes to point scoring and one up manship, it seems to be totally crass to me that hbc should be seeking to waste money on this farce when draconian cuts are either on the horizon or already creating misery and stress for people.The council need to take a long hard look at their priorities in my opinion.

shillelagh 16-02-2011 20:03

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884110)
As I've said earlier JCB I was living in Hassy at the time but can't remember too many street parties when Charlie got wed, the last street parties I remember was when her Maj was crowned in 52 or was it 53:cool:


What about the queens silver jubilee in 1977 ... :D all the kids got free mugs if you remember rightly .... i still have mine now .. its used daily .. as a pen holder!!!:D

garinda 16-02-2011 20:08

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
'Hyndburn's economy is facing its toughest challenge for two decades, the council leader has admitted.'

'Finance chiefs have been tasked with chopping over 16 per cent from estimated budgets, by finding savings of £2.6 million.'

Council leader: Hyndburn economy facing 'toughest challenge in 20 years' | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

Party on!

:Banane20::Banane18::Banane14:

yerself 16-02-2011 20:44

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay
he's a very popular man is our Peter, in the Rose and Crown

Only because it's easy to take money off him at cards and darts.:D

Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2011 21:14

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heth (Post 884148)
I agree with you Marg, but he might go against what we have all put on here just to "spite" Accyweb? :rolleyes:

And if he did that, it would really define his immaturity........wouldn't it?

An honest leader, who had the boroughs interests at heart, would surely take notice of the groundswell of opinion and moderate the frivolities to the bare minimum(ie street closures for street parties at the expense of those who wanted to party).
I won't hold my breath.

heth 16-02-2011 21:33

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
[quote=Margaret Pilkington;884178]And if he did that, it would really define his immaturity........wouldn't it?
quote]

Aye it would but it wouldnt surprise alot of people!:rolleyes:

I wont hold me breath either Marg, waste of space so he is. ;)

jaysay 17-02-2011 09:19

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 884142)
He quotes my own musings verbatim, rattles on about 'tweets' and Accyweb continually and seems incensed by the fact that I use this forum to convey what is actually happening at Britcliffe HQ.

It certainly doesn't bother me, if it bothers him it smacks of a guilty conscience.

There is only one way to use the Internet Ken and especially sites like this, if you have a point to make either come on here and make it, which you do on a regular basis. Its no good quoting what is said on here if your not in on the online argument, as fare as Peter is concerned the mistake he has made is, well two really, first he or his office have made two posts on here, which I found bizarre to say the least, secondly if your not prepared to air your views on here you should not refer to the forum in the committee room or council chamber. Some time ago I wrote a letter to the observer airing my views about a local web site the only reason being that at that time I was unable to gain access because of a technical problem, but no body can accuse me of ducking the issues, because if I am prepared to air my views I'm also prepared to take any flack as a result, unlike some others who use the site, who regularly go missing when things aren't going too well for their chosen political standing.

Ken Moss 17-02-2011 09:29

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Well put and I agree, although I think you're being a little disingenuous to my councillor colleagues as regards the political heat. I choose to post most days and will comfortably tackle a thorny discussion head on but online debates have a tendency sometimes to get a little heated with no real outcome and some fairly wild statements so it doesn't surprise me that not everyone dives in quite so readily.

I only wish that more residents had taken up the offer of coming to Overview and Scrutiny on Tuesday to see Peter as he really is. The unbridled rage at being accused by a member of the public of owning that cafe in the Market Hall is something he usually reserves for Graham Jones.

jaysay 17-02-2011 09:36

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 884243)
Well put and I agree, although I think you're being a little disingenuous to my councillor colleagues as regards the political heat. I choose to post most days and will comfortably tackle a thorny discussion head on but online debates have a tendency sometimes to get a little heated with no real outcome and some fairly wild statements so it doesn't surprise me that not everyone dives in quite so readily.

Dive in :eek:you never see hide nor hair of them, your the only one who comes on here come rain or shine and has there say, your so called colleagues only do so when they think they can score a few cheap political points;)

garinda 17-02-2011 09:37

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 884178)
And if he did that, it would really define his immaturity........wouldn't it?

An honest leader, who had the boroughs interests at heart, would surely take notice of the groundswell of opinion and moderate the frivolities to the bare minimum(ie street closures for street parties at the expense of those who wanted to party).
I won't hold my breath.

It's reported that the government have changed their mind about selling off our forests, after a massive public outcry.

Government U-turn on selling forest: Public backlash halts David Cameron | Mail Online

Sometimes it is wise to gauge public feeling, which seems fairly overwhelming in this case, re: local royal wedding celebrations.

I hope they realise that there doesn't seem much support for the planned programme of events.

garinda 17-02-2011 09:54

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 884243)
I only wish that more residents had taken up the offer of coming to Overview and Scrutiny on Tuesday to see Peter as he really is.

I can't comment on him in council meetings.

I've known Peter Britcliffe since I was nine years old. We have many mutual friends, who think the world of him, away from the political arena.

Even though I've been publicly critical of some planned policies under his leadership, he's been nothing but professional, helpful, and very kind to me, and even exhibited his humorous side, as recently ago as last week.

He might be an ogre in council chambers, I don't know, but he's no fool.

I genuinely hope he realises that spending money on these celebrations in Hyndburn would be seen as foolish by many people.

I bet even William and Kate, who've called their happy day an 'austerity wedding', would agree.

jaysay 17-02-2011 10:04

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 884258)
I can't comment on him in council meetings.

I've known Peter Britcliffe since I was nine years old. We have many mutual friends, who think the world of him, away from the political arena.

Even though I've been publicly critical of some planned policies under his leadership, he's been nothing but professional, helpful, and very kind to me, and even exhibited his humorous side, as recently ago as last week.

He might be an ogre in council chambers, I don't know, but he's no fool.

I genuinely hope he realises that spending money on these celebrations in Hyndburn would be seen as foolish by many people.

I bet even William and Kate, who've called their happy day an 'austerity wedding', would agree.

Actually G. can't say that I have seen PB in full flow in the council chamber, the last time I went to a meeting don't think he was even leader of the group, but I do echo your sentiments in the other things you have mentioned, although you have probably seen more of him than me over the last few years;)

Eric 17-02-2011 15:16

Re: Royal Wedding - The poll.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 884110)
As I've said earlier JCB I was living in Hassy at the time but can't remember too many street parties when Charlie got wed, the last street parties I remember was when her Maj was crowned in 52 or was it 53:cool:

I remember it too .... there was a sports day in Clayton, I won the sack race:eek: .... my one claim to athletic skill:D


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