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Ken Moss 25-02-2011 08:09

The Leader's Budget
 
Each year the party leaders are given a budget of a few thousand pounds for their own group development and I have just received the figures for the past 12 months.

It doesn't seem to be online anywhere but the Conservative figures contain details of such essential spending as £120.91 on newspapers, £320.00 on Christmas cards, £80.77 on a camera and memory card and what appears to be £769.45 on even more buffets for the group's private meetings.

As it stands, I receive just over £280 for my council work and have to pay for all of the above myself, as do the rest of the Labour group. We send Christmas cards every year and quite rightly pay for those ourselves, most of us already have a digital camera and we even have to suffer the hideous expense of buying our own papers. The Council Leader gets in excess of £43,000 per year and yet claims for all this.

Whilst the Labour group have spent around £100 on a training course, the Conservative leader has gone more than £230 over the allocated £3,805 with another two months to go.

So much for good financial management.

jaysay 25-02-2011 08:28

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 887027)
Each year the party leaders are given a budget of a few thousand pounds for their own group development and I have just received the figures for the past 12 months.

It doesn't seem to be online anywhere but the Conservative figures contain details of such essential spending as £120.91 on newspapers, £320.00 on Christmas cards, £80.77 on a camera and memory card and what appears to be £769.45 on even more buffets for the group's private meetings.

As it stands, I receive just over £280 for my council work and have to pay for all of the above myself, as do the rest of the Labour group. We send Christmas cards every year and quite rightly pay for those ourselves, most of us already have a digital camera and we even have to suffer the hideous expense of buying our own papers. The Council Leader gets in excess of £43,000 per year and yet claims for all this.

Whilst the Labour group have spent around £100 on a training course, the Conservative leader has gone more than £230 over the allocated £3,805 with another two months to go.

So much for good financial management.

Maybe the camera was purchased so he could take a photo to use as his avatar on here when he finishes office in May;)

garinda 25-02-2011 08:34

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 887027)
training courses...the Conservative leader has gone more than £230 over the allocated £3,805 with another two months to go.

Does it say what he's been trained as?

Less 25-02-2011 09:37

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887037)
Does it say what he's been trained as?

Photographers model?
:eek:

Ken Moss 25-02-2011 09:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887037)
Does it say what he's been trained as?

I can't find any on the Conservative spreadsheet. Plenty of catering, travelling costs and even a £120.00 accommodation bill paid to LCC but nothing I can see in terms of personal development.

The nearest they get to training is £261.98 in rail discount cards.

lancsdave 25-02-2011 14:17

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887037)
Does it say what he's been trained as?

With a bit of luck, Opposition Backbencher :)

shillelagh 25-02-2011 14:37

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how can they claim for discount rail cards .. theyre for a year .. mainly cost £26 each .. unless a disabled one .. which is £20 a year .. what happens if they've claimed for one in november its valid for year remember .. and then get voted out in May ... and how many times have they used it for personal travel rather than council business ...

http://www.railcard.co.uk/

Neil 25-02-2011 15:48

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 887120)
how can they claim for discount rail cards .. theyre for a year .. mainly cost £26 each .. unless a disabled one .. which is £20 a year .. what happens if they've claimed for one in november its valid for year remember .. and then get voted out in May ... and how many times have they used it for personal travel rather than council business ...

Save 1/3 off your rail fares with a Railcard

Does it really matter if it is used for personal use if the purchase of the rail card saved its purchase price on official trips. Often just one trip can save the purchase price. These cards are usually personal and non transferable.

shillelagh 25-02-2011 15:57

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if its used for personal use it should be paid for by them .. not the council ...

lancsdave 25-02-2011 17:16

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 887143)
if its used for personal use it should be paid for by them .. not the council ...

Give em a break Jen, it's difficult living on 43K a year :rolleyes:

gynn 25-02-2011 17:24

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Maybe he should invest in a pair of wellingtons to compete with the dashing Leader of the Opposition.

Less 25-02-2011 17:27

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 887176)
Give em a break Jen, it's difficult living on 43K a year :rolleyes:

Actually it's not, I had a wonderful year, but then the bank started sending me letters about an unauthorised overdraft.

(Paying it back is MUCH harder).
:cool:

garinda 25-02-2011 17:45

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 887143)
if its used for personal use it should be paid for by them .. not the council ...


I'm quite sure most people would also be upset if a mayor used his offical car to go dogging in, say.

jaysay 25-02-2011 17:48

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 887113)
With a bit of luck, Opposition Backbencher :)

Na he's well versed in that Dave:D

jaysay 25-02-2011 17:50

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 887188)
Actually it's not, I had a wonderful year, but then the bank started sending me letters about an unauthorised overdraft.

(Paying it back is MUCH harder).
:cool:

See you agree with Call Me Dave then Less:rolleyes:

jaysay 25-02-2011 17:58

Re: The Leader's Budget
 
Just a little wonder, but I've a very serious complaint to put to Councillor Moss, I really thing he should have issued a warning on here, he knows there are people in poor health who can't stand shocks. There's me gets hold of the Obs my daughter dropped of for me and I'm quietly thumbing through the pages, when I nearly swallowed mi false teeth, right out of the blue there's this picture of one of the Leader of the Council in RISHTON:eek::eek::eek: not only that but on the very same photo is our Mossy, I couldn't believe it, gave me a real shock, Ken you could at least have PMd me with a warning:D:D

Bernard Dawson 25-02-2011 17:59

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 887184)
Maybe he should invest in a pair of wellingtons to compete with the dashing Leader of the Opposition.

I somehow don't think we would have got Peter there would we.

jaysay 25-02-2011 18:33

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 887216)
I somehow don't think we would have got Peter there would we.

Well it never harmed you Bernard;)

Ken Moss 26-02-2011 08:11

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 887215)
Just a little wonder, but I've a very serious complaint to put to Councillor Moss, I really thing he should have issued a warning on here, he knows there are people in poor health who can't stand shocks. There's me gets hold of the Obs my daughter dropped of for me and I'm quietly thumbing through the pages, when I nearly swallowed mi false teeth, right out of the blue there's this picture of one of the Leader of the Council in RISHTON:eek::eek::eek: not only that but on the very same photo is our Mossy, I couldn't believe it, gave me a real shock, Ken you could at least have PMd me with a warning:D:D

I couldn't quite believe it myself, it wasn't supposed to be publicised on orders from the Bishop and even though there were about six photographers there on the night they still managed to find a picture of me with my eyes shut.

On occasions like these I'm willing to swallow my pride because the end justified the means and those poor Scouts are now warm again thanks to a new heating system, something which hadn't been upgraded for 63 years.

Less 26-02-2011 08:18

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 887344)
I couldn't quite believe it myself, it wasn't supposed to be publicised on orders from the Bishop and even though there were about six photographers there on the night they still managed to find a picture of me with my eyes shut.

On occasions like these I'm willing to swallow my pride because the end justified the means and those poor Scouts are now warm again thanks to a new heating system, something which hadn't been upgraded for 63 years.

63 years of mixed party....

Oh, you know the rest.
:)

garinda 26-02-2011 08:38

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 887344)
those poor Scouts are now warm again thanks to a new heating system

What happened to initiative?

Rubbing two sticks together?

:rolleyes::D

Ken Moss 26-02-2011 08:51

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887359)
What happened to initiative?

Rubbing two sticks together?

:rolleyes::D

I know, they don't even say 'dib dib dib' these days.

Also, which I found slightly distressing, there is now a 'Public Relations' badge but nothing for 'Home Help' as there was in my day. At least there isn't a 'Social Networking' badge though, so that's something.

Good activity for the kids though, I'd be encouraging mine to join up if I had any.


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