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This Sceptred Isle
Its a strange old island, isn't it, shared between Scotland, Wales and England. Each with its own sense of national pride.
Mention Scottish national pride, and it conjures up images of the kilt, the sporron, haggis, whisky, Loch Lomond, Edinburgh Castle, the bagpipes...... Talk about Welsh national pride, and you think of daffodils, leeks, Snowdonia, male voice choirs and eisteddfords.... Speak of English national pride and you must be a racist, fascist thug to the right of the National Front. Strange old island, isn't it! :confused::confused::confused: |
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completely agree I take pride in my heritage and feel that whoever you are and wherever you come from you should be proud of your heritage it is what and who you are and unfortunately due to a minority of people defacing the english nationality the majority have been forced to lose their heritage and therefore their identity.
england may be a multiracial, multiethnic, multicultural,multifaith society but that doesn't stop people being who they are, or their god given right to celebrate that fact equally and without prejudice. |
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We seem to be apologists for our national history and background.
It seems that national pride has been hijacked by suspect political groups...and so we are all devalued by it. |
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Perhaps we're always going to face a bit of a dichotomy, when it comes to national identity, being from two tribes of people, the Angles, and the Saxons.
Perhaps it's more straightforward, being one of the Celtic nations. |
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I remember back in about 1967 ish when I was presenting my passport at Dover to travel to France, I also had to fill a small form in and one question asked my Nationality, I put English and the office clown tore the form up and told me to put British. I objected but was told if I didn't conform there was no boarding of the ship. I put British just to keep him happy. |
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works the other way too, they look at you daft when you put Welsh and there is never an option for it on forms.
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another one of the OTHER's then :D |
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Nowt wrong with us matey after all we're the ones that put a roof over you foreigner's heads Literally! :D |
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Know it's wrong, but I do look down my Nordic nose at those Germanic Angles and Saxons. Yup, I'm a racist. :D |
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I did mention that my parents were married two years before I was born but my courier told me to button it as we had a hotel and a meal to get to. Steeljacks father was another chap I worked with at the same tour company. I bet he would have told him what his Nationality was and stuck to being ENGLISH. |
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I once got rather friendly with a few Germans on holiday in Spain, they wanted to know how I managed to get our towels on the sunbeds before they did:rolleyes:
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Mind you, they call us "Englander" irrespective of which home Nation we profess to hail from which really winds the Jockeens up ! :D My how we chuckle when our pet Jock is spitting feathers & vitriol & being fit to burst at being called English. |
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Just read in the "Guardian" ... sorry Jaysay, the "Daily Mail" is just too cerebral for me .... that many Britions would support an anti-immigration stance. What surprised me was the strength of the support among black and muslim respondants:confused:
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The majority of pre immigration indigenous (white Christian) don't have an issue with these folk & accept them as being as British as we are. Most of the animosity is geared to the late comers who expect us to change our ways to suit their attitudes. We've had years & years of immigration, integration & gradual dilution of our native stock but done carefully & over time, whereas the last lot has been enforced on us at pace & under duress ! That's the difference & hence the resentment. |
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This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars, This other Eden, demi-paradise, This fortress built by Nature for herself Against infection and the hand of war, This happy breed of men, this little world, This precious stone set in the silver sea, Which serves it in the office of a wall Or as a moat defensive to a house, Against the envy of less happier lands, This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England. If someone set John O'Gaunt's speech in Shakespeare's Richard II, to some rousing music, I'd much rather sing that, than the dreary dirge God Save the German Woman. |
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Question , anyone know what they played when/if a Scots athelete won a Gold medal at last years Commonwealth games , did they use 'God Save the Queen' or 'Flower of Scotland. Seems everytime I see the Scottish Rugby team play , even overseas in France they use 'Flower of Scotland'
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The Isle of Man had an anthem too. It is translated as "O Land of Our Birth". Contrary to popular belief, it is NOT "Jake The Peg." |
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I thought Scotland used Shang-a-Lang by the Bay City Rollers, when they won a medal.
Though I've yet to hear it myself, to confirm this. |
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They have a very strong island identity and hate being lumped in with the UK. |
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Of course, several nights in The Baltic Inn with the natives of Foxdale also played hell with my imagination. |
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