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abara 30-03-2011 14:45

Demolished houses on Hyndburn Road
 
Does anyone know what's happening to the land in the Regeneration Area on Hyndburn Road next to Matalan where all the houses have been demolished? We have enquired if there has been a planning application submitted for a mosque and as yet that seems not to be the situation. The Council's preferred option for the use of the land is to support and facilitate the development of a new mosque and community centre. We, ABARA have been told that prior to any planning application being submitted, the council require a further public consultation, this time organised in conjunction with the mosque committee. Can anyone enlighten us as to what is going to happen with this land?

g jones 30-03-2011 15:59

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I believe the Council have agreed to sell the land for £175,000 to the Mosque Committee. That was the last I heard.

mani 31-03-2011 00:21

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As far as I know the plans are near to dead in the water. there was some major issue with cars possibly parking on hyndburn road and it was stuck there.

i dont even think any plans have been even drawn up yet. i've not seen plans etc nor any footprints etc

The houses were empty and the streets were beginning to attract gypsies and i'm sure the arsonists wouldnt have been far behind. I've got a feeling they'll just level them and place huge bollards to stop any vehicles coming onto the land for the time being.

Neil 31-03-2011 07:31

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 894684)
I believe the Council have agreed to sell the land for £175,000 to the Mosque Committee. That was the last I heard.

Is that all the land is worth? I would have thought it was worth more than that.

mani 02-04-2011 04:03

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there would be an outcry if it went for as little as that!!

lemme go hunt around i'll ask at the mosque next time i see one of the commitee members around

daisychain 02-04-2011 04:38

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Outrageous! I understand Abara REQUESTED a meeting with HBC and a Mosque Committee representiative over 12 months ago. Cllr MP facilitated the meeting but the HBC and Mosque rep said they could only stay for half hour! Is PB getting the deal done for votes?

MANI.... i share your sorrow. I lost one of my favourite actors this year .... Pete Postlethwaite.

pacemaker 05-04-2011 13:15

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A mosque will be there , in time that is certain

accyman 06-04-2011 07:43

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Originally Posted by pacemaker (Post 896235)
A mosque will be there , in time that is certain

im sure if one is built it will be designed to fit in with the rest of the town and not make accrington look like a suburb of iraq or pakistan

pacemaker 06-04-2011 10:44

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im sure it will fit in with the rest of pakistan sorry accrington , im sure we have plenty of english chip shops on blackburn road .or even english shops

Neil 06-04-2011 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pacemaker (Post 896517)
im sure it will fit in with the rest of pakistan sorry accrington , im sure we have plenty of english chip shops on blackburn road .or even english shops

If you dont like what is happening you have 3 options in my simple way of seeing it.

1. Do something about it.
2. Do nothing
3. Just moan about it

Which one will you be choosing 1, 2 or 3?

pacemaker 06-04-2011 13:36

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I see your simple , sorry your simple way ok ill moan because how on earth do you do something about a thing thats allready been decided, so i chose to moan , but moan to the right people

Less 06-04-2011 17:24

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Originally Posted by pacemaker (Post 896535)
I see your simple , sorry your simple way ok ill moan because how on earth do you do something about a thing thats allready been decided, so i chose to moan , but moan to the right people

No, you chose to moan on accyweb, not the right people at all.

Also what you're moaning about is rubbish, so far we've been given no plans, dates or anything substantial, anyway, just a thought why is it so bad? How long is it since the so called 'Christians', spent anything on a new Church, I think the last one mentioned on this site was Sacred Heart when it was being demolished.
If you want to stop a mosque, get together with a few like minded folk and offer more for the land and you pray for peace.

Neil 06-04-2011 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 896601)
How long is it since the so called 'Christians', spent anything on a new Church, I think the last one mentioned on this site was Sacred Heart when it was being demolished.

A newly built one opened on Union Road Ossy last year.

walkinman221 06-04-2011 17:40

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Halleujah (i think thats how you spell it):D:D

jaysay 06-04-2011 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 896604)
A newly built one opened on Union Road Ossy last year.

Hallelujah:bow8:

jaysay 06-04-2011 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 896608)
Halleujah (i think thats how you spell it):D:D

great minds think alike walkinman:D and it is:rolleyes:

Neil 06-04-2011 17:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 896610)
great minds think alike walkinman:D and it is:rolleyes:

More like simple minds, they probably make a lot more sense than your lot with some of their crazy out of date ideas :rolleyes::p

walkinman221 06-04-2011 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 896614)
More like simple minds, they probably make a lot more sense than your lot with some of their crazy out of date ideas :rolleyes::p

Look if your going to take the miki get the saying right its " fools never differ":rolleyes::D:D

jaysay 06-04-2011 18:07

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 896616)
Look if your going to take the miki get the saying right its " fools never differ":rolleyes::D:D

Hear hear:D:D

DaveinGermany 06-04-2011 19:29

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 896614)
More like simple minds, :rolleyes::p

I suppose in a certain light & particular angle Jays avatar bears a passing, nay fleeting resemblance to an older heavier Jim Kerr. ;) :D

Less 06-04-2011 19:36

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 896614)
More like simple minds, they probably make a lot more sense than your lot with some of their crazy out of date ideas :rolleyes::p

Which they? and since when are you above the accyweb crowd rather than part of it?
Quote:

your lot

Neil 06-04-2011 20:24

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 896660)
Which they? and since when are you above the accyweb crowd rather than part of it?

It was nothing to do with accyweb

jaysay 07-04-2011 09:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 896657)
I suppose in a certain light & particular angle Jays avatar bears a passing, nay fleeting resemblance to an older heavier Jim Kerr. ;) :D

Hey you less of the cheek, there are many who would die for my stealth like figure mate, I'll tell you:D

DaveinGermany 07-04-2011 11:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 896757)
Hey you less of the cheek, there are many who would die for my stealth like figure mate, I'll tell you:D

;) :s_aim1: just making sure you're alive & kicking Jay ! As to your "stealth" like figure :confused: Once upon a time possibly in your street fighting years it may have been true :) but now age & time have caught you up & given you a good kicking mate, still that's real life I suppose ! ;)

Margaret Pilkington 07-04-2011 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 896530)
If you dont like what is happening you have 3 options in my simple way of seeing it.

1. Do something about it.
2. Do nothing
3. Just moan about it

Which one will you be choosing 1, 2 or 3?

It is all very well to say 'do something about it'.......what exactly?
We can see how the areas of Blackburn Road have become run down and frankly, a dump.
If you criticise (because it is mainly an area populated by asians) then the cry of 'Racist' goes up...........I don't care who owns the properties along this stretch of road.....they could be sky blue pink for me......they should be made to maintain the area properly.......there are areas like this in what were once affluent and well maintained places in our town....that have now become rundown and horrible......and don't tell me it is because they haven't had money spent on them because they have...grants galore.

Margaret Pilkington 07-04-2011 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 896601)
If you want to stop a mosque, get together with a few like minded folk and offer more for the land and you pray for peace.

That Less, in the current financial situation is totally impractical.

Benipete 07-04-2011 12:09

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 896757)
Hey you less of the cheek, there are many who would die for my stealth like figure mate, I'll tell you:D

I fear many have.:eek::D:D

Neil 07-04-2011 13:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 896809)
It is all very well to say 'do something about it'.......what exactly?
We can see how the areas of Blackburn Road have become run down and frankly, a dump.
If you criticise (because it is mainly an area populated by asians) then the cry of 'Racist' goes up...........I don't care who owns the properties along this stretch of road.....they could be sky blue pink for me......they should be made to maintain the area properly.......there are areas like this in what were once affluent and well maintained places in our town....that have now become rundown and horrible......and don't tell me it is because they haven't had money spent on them because they have...grants galore.

I am not sure as its not something I have any experience in. I keep myself busy and useful with my charity work.

I think the properties should be maintained by the owners. If they allow the property to become an eyesore they should be instructed by the Council to sort it out. If this is not possible at present then the Council should make it possible with byelaws or whatever.

I dont like public money improving private property for the financial gain of the owner.

Maybe speak with our MP and the Local Councillors for the area and find out what can be done and why it is not being done.

Margaret Pilkington 07-04-2011 14:11

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I have had experience in trying to challenge decisions that seem to have been made regardless of any representation from local residents, it took a lot of time, a lot of effort and resulted in precisely nothing.
I am at the bum end of my life and what I have left is too precious to waste on challenging the bureaucracy......it seems to me that who has most cash usually wins(or who has the most influential friends too).
I don't plan to go down that route again any time soon.

Neil 07-04-2011 14:13

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 896837)
I don't plan to go down that route again any time soon.

That's a shame, your just the sort of person that is needed to make things happen.

I never took you for a quitter ;)

Wynonie Harris 07-04-2011 14:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 896757)
for my stealth like figure mate

Jay, your malapropisms are priceless! IOU karma. :D

Margaret Pilkington 07-04-2011 14:48

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Neil, I am not a quitter.......I know my limitations and I am unable and unwilling to commit the needed emotional energy that is required for such a venture.
My tolerance of frustrations has got a lot less these days.

jaysay 07-04-2011 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 896808)
;) :s_aim1: just making sure you're alive & kicking Jay ! As to your "stealth" like figure :confused: Once upon a time possibly in your street fighting years it may have been true :) but now age & time have caught you up & given you a good kicking mate, still that's real life I suppose ! ;)

Ya don't have to rub it in Dave:D

jaysay 07-04-2011 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 896839)
Jay, your malapropisms are priceless! IOU karma. :D

There was me thinking swearing wasn't allowed on here:D

garinda 07-04-2011 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 896832)
I keep myself busy and useful with my charity work.

:gooddog:

Give yourself a biscuit.

garinda 07-04-2011 18:09

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 896892)
:gooddog:

Give yourself a biscuit.



Or better still, let someone else have a go.

:jimbo:

Make a nice change, from always blowing your own trumpet.

;)

Benipete 07-04-2011 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 896896)
Or better still, let someone else have a go.

:jimbo:

Make a nice change, from always blowing your own trumpet.

;)

Don't get me mad,All them years of Yoga gone down the swanney.:dummy2:

garinda 07-04-2011 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 896947)
Don't get me mad,All them years of Yoga gone down the swanney.:dummy2:

Is that some sort of cryptic crossword clue for dyslexics?

walkinman221 07-04-2011 20:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 896967)
Is that some sort of cryptic crossword clue for dyslexics?

Thank god someone else didnt get it thought it was just me being thick:D

Neil 08-04-2011 07:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 896896)
Make a nice change, from always blowing your own trumpet.

;)

Its rare that I do but just sometimes I feel like it :p:D:D

Margaret Pilkington 08-04-2011 08:09

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 897054)
Its rare that I do but just sometimes I feel like it :p:D:D


The good thing about blowing your own trumpet is.....you get the choice of tune:D.
Neil, we all know you are a good sort!

jaysay 08-04-2011 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 897060)
The good thing about blowing your own trumpet is.....you get the choice of tune:D.
Neil, we all know you are a good sort!

Give or Margaret they'll have to widen the Park Gates:D

daisychain 15-04-2011 11:49

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Why be all talk and no action?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right.
  • Join Abara (Accrington Business and Residents Association) and let good prevail.
  • Margaret, have a day out at the Emily Pankhurst Centre... that will reignite your energies.
Daisychain.

A single daisy can be weak but form a daisychain and hey presto!

Margaret Pilkington 15-04-2011 12:35

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Daisychain, while a day out at the Emily Pankhurst Centre(where is this, by the way) might re-ignite my energies....I just can't find the time......busier since I retired than I was when I was working.:)

jaysay 15-04-2011 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daisychain (Post 898700)
Why be all talk and no action?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right.
  • Join Abara (Accrington Business and Residents Association) and let good prevail.
  • Margaret, have a day out at the Emily Pankhurst Centre... that will reignite your energies.
Daisychain.

A single daisy can be weak but form a daisychain and hey presto!

The last time I saw a daisychain it was away with the fairies;)

lindsay ormerod 15-04-2011 18:43

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Whilst I agree that some parts of Blackburn Rd are a mess,( and I still mourn the senseless demolition of my old house on Holland Street) I have been having more of a look around since the thread which featured the derelict courtyard on Bank Street.
And whilst obviously not in a predominantly Asian area have a look at Whalley Rd and Mason St , what a shambles! Mason St is a tiny street that runs down the side of that horrible Army surplus place, all the houses bar 1 are boarded up, the opposite side of Whalley Rd used to house Mary's Music , a takeaway and a hairdressers, now all looking very derelict, and what used to be Wolstenholmes and latterly Motability place also derelict,the motorbike place standing empty, this is pretty much town centre.......:eek:

Restless 16-04-2011 11:59

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my parents have a house on steiner street that is very run down and just standing there doing nothing. Apparently they are pulling the houses down right next to their house(so unlucky for them i know) They are trying to sell it and have asians that want to buy that have cash ready but they have a problem with deeds missing or something and now they have to proove they have been living there 30+ years... What a joke it has become.

Lately the house has been broken into several times. The boiler has been stolen among other things and just this week the garage doors have been taken. This town is a joke and the people that run it are complete...

Less 16-04-2011 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daisychain (Post 898700)
Why be all talk and no action?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right.
  • Join Abara (Accrington Business and Residents Association) and let good prevail.
  • Margaret, have a day out at the Emily Pankhurst Centre... that will reignite your energies.
Daisychain.

A single daisy can be weak but form a daisychain and hey presto!

I've always been fascinated by Emily Pankhurst and her ilk, I wonder, how much time she and her friends would have spent on Womens right's if they'd had to wash their own underwear?

Lucysgirl 18-04-2011 12:50

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I wrote to my councillor and MP giving what I thought were several valid reasons why this too large men's club/mosque should not be built on what should be land for affordable homes..

heth 18-04-2011 20:37

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Dont hold your breath for a reply Lucysgirl!

Less 19-04-2011 06:22

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 899483)
Dont hold your breath for a reply Lucysgirl!

Not much chance, it's now 4 years since I was moved out of a solid terraced house on Holland street so that the area could be demolished to make way for affordable homes.
No sign of anything yet, though the Council had suggested a sceme a few years ago of us all nipping to the now desolate area created and spreading a few flower seeds, (someone has been really keen with a packet of Dandelion seeds).
:o

Ken Moss 19-04-2011 07:29

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The current obsession with demolishing terraced houses is going to be looked on as a mistake in future years. We live in a mid-terrace and it's the most solid property I could have wished for, plenty of room and cheap to run.

You wouldn't get rooms this size in a new build or a 'studio apartment'.

Lucysgirl 20-04-2011 11:54

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Heth said: <<Dont hold your breath for a reply Lucysgirl!>>

Heth,

I didn't expect a reply but I did expect a responsible re-think after I pointed out to them that a previous government *dictat had ordered them to build 10,000 new homes within the next 10 years. I reminded them that the council could NOT find enough land to meet the target. I further reminded them that there was still a shortfall of land even after they had surreptitiously set planning permission in motion to build on Baxenden allotments and Huncoat football fields. In credit crunch times when people need a home with a garden to grow food would it be fair to use land which had the imprint of old houses and give planning permission for a very large building for the sole use of some local males and their out of town visitors.

*P.S. that government dictat was withdrawn near the end of that 10 year period.

Pamperqueen 20-04-2011 17:05

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I was under the impression that two or three mosques were being demolished to make way for the new house building work going on already. I thought the Hyndburn Road mosque was to replace those, though I could be wrong. I also think the new building should make more of a statement - it is the way into town - and as long as the new mosque is attractive, i think it could be a good idea.

Lucysgirl 21-04-2011 11:21

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Did you notice the small number of vehicles the proposed carpark could hold by those using the two premises? It's far too small and that was another of my reasons.

Pamperqueen 27-04-2011 16:25

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No! I am not an expert, didn't even realise a planing application with details had gone in it yet, thought it was just a concept....

katex 27-04-2011 17:39

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Originally Posted by Pamperqueen (Post 901476)
No! I am not an expert, didn't even realise a planing application with details had gone in it yet, thought it was just a concept....


I haven't seen one yet, Pamperqueen.

jaysay 27-04-2011 17:42

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 901489)
I haven't seen one yet, Pamperqueen.

And if you ain't seen it, it ain't happened Kate:D

katex 27-04-2011 17:58

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 901491)
And if you ain't seen it, it ain't happened Kate:D

Might have missed it somewhere, Jaysay. Would be very disappointed in myself if I had.

I read also that the plan was to close the other two mosques, but the one on Richmond Hill Street have had a PP in for improvements .. not sure if they have done anything yet though.


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