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Well, folks, it's coming round to that time of year again and after last years escapades I'm sure that once again we would all want to compare notes on this wonderful annual ritual. So lets hear all the stories...dogs going crazy, cats running out the door never to be seen again, bangers through your letter box, rockets down your chimney......

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Why don't we make this year one to remember - blow up the Houses of Parliament!

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Sounds like you have the same idea's as me T. I live annoying the neighbours too!

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you got the neighbours from hell as well?

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I know where we need to shove a rocket...can you guess?

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That wouldn't be anything fundamental to do with HBC, surely, A-B?

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Keane targeted by yobs

Tuesday September 28 2004



Roy Keane's off-field problems have continued with a crate of fireworks daubed in anti-Irish slogans being set off outside his house.

Just days after he appeared in court on three charges relating to an alleged assault on a 16-year-old boy, Keane's £1.5m Cheshire mansion was targeted by yobs who left a crate of two-foot-long industrial fireworks outside the gates.

There was little damage done in the attack on Sunday morning, which happened when Keane, his pregnant wife and four children were inside the house.

A police spokesman told The Sun: “Fireworks were set off outside Roy Keane’s home and language of a racist and abusive nature was daubed on the crate.

“The disturbing message was directed at the footballer and our inquiries are continuing.”

The message is thought to have contained the words 'Irish tw*t' but there is no indication whether the attack was motivated by racism, politics, football or the ongoing court case.

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Didn't some bloke with a beard try this a few years ago?

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Why on earth isn't there a ban on fireworks until the week leading up to the event. I'm young(ish) yet I still walk precariously past the entrances to back-alleys under threat of some 'little angels' setting off a rocket on a low trajectory!

Bonfire night and the weeks surrounding it is nothing but a pain in the arse...bah humbug...youth of today...blah blah blah...

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Whats all this rubbish about pets being frightened by a few fireworks?? I am quite confident my german shepherd "Merky" will snooze contently this year as he has done in the past while loud bangs are made in the sky.........

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OK, So he is almost deaf, but.....:D

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Haven't had much trouble yet but I know it's going to happen. My dog hates them. We have had the occasional firework going off in the distance and this has heen happening since about May. My friend informs me that this is how the drug seller announces his presence and that the drug sellers also do this in Blackburn..:rolleyes:

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Also used for other celebrations.

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It seems a strange way for a drug seller to behave. I'd have thought they'd be better off keeping a low profile.

We get fireworks going off at all times of the year around here for people's own personal celebrations. I think it would be far better if they were only used at organised events and not on general sale.

Mind you, I have a cat and although she isn't deaf (she likes to pretend she is at times) they don't seem to bother her. We used to have a yorkshire terrier years ago who actually enjoyed watching the pretty ones. She was certainly an exception.

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I like fireworks. Splendid Invention. Well done those Chinese blokes! The perfect accompaniment to celebrations of all kinds and an excellent expression of exhuberance and joy. A pity that there is not more of it around. Sadly, however, my dog disagrees with me. Sudden loud noises frighten the crap out of him - literally! He understands that when I clap my hands that I require his attention, but that is about as far as I dare push it in the loud noise department. So I do tend to get really annoyed with the type of brain dead morons who insist on letting fireworks off just to cause a nuisance, because thay cannot think of anything better to do. It is also damned inconvenient when they insist on letting the damned things off while I am having dinner thus compelling me to leave the table to start shovelling and disinfecting!:mad:

Can there be any connection between this growing nuisance and the increasing number of Asian shopkeepers prepared to sell anything to anyone irrespective of the law? And if there is, then what are the Trading Standards Office doing about it?

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A very good question! What is the point of having a law if it isn't enforced?

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A very good point Willow, and probably relevant to about 80% of most laws.

New laws are necessary to justify the politicians and keep legal parasites in work!!!

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Ban the lot!

Except the Morecambe Festival of Light and Water.

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I have to agree with Gobsmacked.
BAN ALL FIRE WORKS.

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I agree. Just have the organised displays run by responsible people.

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:confused: some like....some dont.....I have a display every year wife makes loose tatty pie an i let rip with the bombs, yes its money up in smoke but it gets the kids organised for a few hours and they arnt going round putting windows through. get a few complaints from oulder generation thinking they are going through the blitz again but bonfire night is one night of the year that i prefare over any outher.and who knows wot would it have been like now if they would have succeded. did you know the people that intended bonfire plot where caught trying to get back into lancashire.

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It isn't really things like your display which are the problem. It's kids (and teenagers) buying fireworks and using them long before Bonfire Night - often in an aggressive manner which upsets people. If it were only the one night a year it wouldn't be so bad. When I was a child we had little (?) bonfires in the backstreets, attended by parents who cooked jacket spuds and provided bonfire toffee etc. It was always a communal affair, the gathering of wood beforehand and the pooling of fireworks to be watched by all. The next morning there'd be a few blistered backyard doors and more often than not amongst the ashes the springs of an old chair or mattress.

I can't believe how we used to risk life and limb by darting past the fire from one side to the other against the backstreet wall - not discouraged by parents either. I remember my Dad calling me back from the opposite side when I'd gone over there to get spuds or something. Trying to see who was the other side of the fire wasn't always easy either so we ran back and forth just to see who was there.

The Guy Fawkes segment at York Dungeons is very interesting. Now what do we all know about poor old Guy? Is that another thread?

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Isn't it odd that what was once a celebration of a failed catholic attempt to overthrow the King and the government by blowing up Parliament is now mainly an exercise in marketing and vandalism.
There are still some places in the UK where the Pope, not Guy Fawkes, is burned in effigy.

Staggeringman: I thought the plotters were all run to ground in Shropshire, or was it Staffordshire?

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:drink:where they not caught on the borders of lancashire ?I seem to remember reading about them somewhere, heads a bit groggy can someone refresh me please. How many of them where there anyway?

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Back in London, the first of several proclamations had been sent out for the immediate apprehension of Percy, and almost amusingly, Percy had been claimed to be spotted leaving London in almost every conceivable direction. If not for the conspirators almost suicidal action of breaking into some stables at Warwick Castle in order to obtain fresh mounts, thereby alerting the local authorities, Percy and his friends might have gained a considerable lead over his pursuers, and been able to make their way into Wales, where it is believed they were heading. As it was, the plotters were soon hotly pursued and quickly brought to ground by Sir Richard Walsh, High Sheriff of Worcestershire for their final stand at Holbeache House.

On the morning of November 8th, Walsh and his men stormed the house, smoking the conspirators from their hides. As they took up their defensive position in the courtyard, Catesby and Percy were felled by a single shot from the musket of John Streete of Worcester, who later claimed compensation from the government for his marksmanship. Percy was killed instantly, Catesby managing to crawl back inside the house before expiring.

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Here's an interesting site

http://www.gunpowder-plot.org/

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If these things have to be on sale then they shouldn't be allowed to sell them untill the day and then only to adults.

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Ban all fireworks but promote the use of illegal drugs by having a revolving cannabis leaf as your avatar. What a good lesson for the younger users of this forum. Get as stoned as you like kids, but don't set off any fireworks whilst you're smoking your spliff.

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I don't see where Anne has promoted smoking cannabis???????
And well done to you too for letting all them kids that were not sure, know what the avatar is!!!
Have a round of applause!!!

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OH there was me thinking it was a maple leaf and I love maple syrup on pancakes.

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Nothing wrong with Bonfire Night or with fireworks per se, it is just the month either side of the event where, as someone has said, these small incendiary devices are used in a manner to cause as much anti-social mayhem as possible.

I'd rather have kids smoking weed and then falling asleep than drinking far too much alcohol than their brains can cope with and then acting in an aggressive manner on the streets. Alcohol causes as much physical and mental damage than pot (some would say more) and can also cause aggression as the scenes in every town/city on a friday/saturday night prove (if proof were needed). Dont get me wrong - I love a damn good swill as much as the next person - but I find it funny that drinking is promoted commercially, encouraged and seen as acceptable when the majority are up in arms about the use of cannabis. I would wager an extremely large sum of money that more people are killed/injured by fireworks in this country this year than through smoking pot in the entire world since time began. The use of drugs is not to be condoned in any way but I think a bit of perspective is needed when engaging in this particular debate.

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sat here and guess what i can hear.... yep fireworks.all the money that goes up insmoke before november 5th could be put to a really good cause,say for instance my beer money and a reeet gooood holiday in the south pacific somewhere!!!!:alc:

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Round where i live you can hear fireworks going off all year round. It's time they put a ban on them to the general public and just had organised displays in the town.

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:drink:HI JANETwhen you say organiseddisplays in the town do you mean everytime theres a council meeting?

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Yerself,
I do not have smoke Cannabis, revolving round my pretty leaves.
I do not mention Drugs.
This is a firework debate.
If you want to talk about drugs then go way back to the drugs thread.
Has wingy said the kids that didn't know do now thanks to you.
But has a Mother think i would prefare my kids to be sat indoors with a spliff doing no harm to anyone and know they are safe than have them hooning around putting themselves and others in danger.
Anything is addictive and Ceejache has hit the nail on the head with his comments about the demon drink. All drugs are a potential Danger not just the illegal ones.