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wallop79 06-05-2011 11:24

Armed police in Accy
 
Armed copper in an unmarked cop car has just pulled a white lad driving a pimped up fiat panda (or whatever make it was!) outside jobcentre & the cars been towed away wonder what thats all about? :eek:

lancsdave 06-05-2011 11:36

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Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 903927)
Armed copper in an unmarked cop car has just pulled a white lad driving a pimped up fiat panda (or whatever make it was!) outside jobcentre & the cars been towed away wonder what thats all about? :eek:


He's probably threatened the jobcentre staff that he is going to find his own job :D

Eric 06-05-2011 13:16

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Just had an armed copper at my door. He was delivering a notice to appear; but, got the wrong street.:eek: You get used to the coppers being armed. I believe that coppers in Kingston only shot twice last year. Both times to put accident victims out of their misery:eek::eek::eek: One of the victims was a deer, the other, a dog.;)

jaysay 06-05-2011 18:08

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 903942)
Just had an armed copper at my door. He was delivering a notice to appear; but, got the wrong street.:eek: You get used to the coppers being armed. I believe that coppers in Kingston only shot twice last year. Both times to put accident victims out of their misery:eek::eek::eek: One of the victims was a deer, the other, a dog.;)

Think you'd better lay of the muse juice Eric them colonial coppers ain't safe Mate:D

Eric 06-05-2011 18:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 904034)
Think you'd better lay of the muse juice Eric them colonial coppers ain't safe Mate:D

I believe you are thinking of the LAPD;), and those big-bellied sheriffs south of the Mason-Dixon line. And if you ever watch "Cops", you know that being black is still not a good idea if you have a run in with the US law enforcement. And sometimes, I have to admit, the RCMP get a little out of hand ... I mean, tasering a guy to death for brandishing a stapler:eek:

Eric 06-05-2011 18:18

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But it was a big stapler, with a full load of staples:D

jaysay 06-05-2011 18:30

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 904038)
But it was a big stapler, with a full load of staples:D

Once remember Danny Glover using a Stapler to kill a guy in Lethal Weapon Eric, bloody dangerous mate in the wrong hands:D

Greeny 06-05-2011 18:42

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three or four police vans were outside Accy Vic this morning.

jaysay 06-05-2011 18:49

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Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 904048)
three or four police vans were outside Accy Vic this morning.

Probably called in for a brew:D

Eric 06-05-2011 20:35

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 904041)
Once remember Danny Glover using a Stapler to kill a guy in Lethal Weapon Eric, bloody dangerous mate in the wrong hands:D

But this guy was only a Polish immigrant:rolleyes: ... maybe some guys over there would accuse the Horsemen of being too gentle.:eek:

Gordon Booth 06-05-2011 20:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 904041)
Once remember Danny Glover using a Stapler to kill a guy in Lethal Weapon Eric, bloody dangerous mate in the wrong hands:D

That was a nail gun, Jaysay. Have you ever seen one of those fired? I wouldn't one pointing at me, even if I was several feet away.
So what are armed police in unmarked cars doing in Accrington? It must be a different place than that I grew up in.

lancsdave 06-05-2011 20:45

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 904087)
So what are armed police in unmarked cars doing in Accrington? It must be a different place than that I grew up in.


Hopefully rounding up all the deadbeats.

walkinman221 06-05-2011 21:02

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 904089)
Hopefully rounding up all the deadbeats.

They will need more than one car, a fleet of buses would be better:D

cashman 06-05-2011 21:32

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 904089)
Hopefully rounding up all the deadbeats.

wouldn't need armed police to do that, a flagon of cider on a string would suffice.:hehetable

Eric 06-05-2011 22:06

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 904087)
That was a nail gun, Jaysay. Have you ever seen one of those fired? I wouldn't one pointing at me, even if I was several feet away.
So what are armed police in unmarked cars doing in Accrington? It must be a different place than that I grew up in.

All depends on what you are used to. I live in a peaceful little city with a low crime rate. And yet, there are probably at least 10 armed cops sitting in unmarked cars around the city. And all the others in well-marked vehicles. I think the difference is that we are used to armed cops. Armed police in the UK, unless they are special units or on an assignment that may require a little more fire-power than a billy club, may still be the exception rather than the rule. It may be that I can remember watching "Dixon of Dock Green";):D

jaysay 07-05-2011 08:34

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 904087)
That was a nail gun, Jaysay. Have you ever seen one of those fired? I wouldn't one pointing at me, even if I was several feet away.
So what are armed police in unmarked cars doing in Accrington? It must be a different place than that I grew up in.

Used one on many occasions Gordon bloody dangerous tackle in the wrong hands, once saw a nail from one of these guns go straight through a wall and hit a labourer in the backside, very very painful having it removed in hospital;)

jaysay 07-05-2011 08:36

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 904101)
wouldn't need armed police to do that, a flagon of cider on a string would suffice.:hehetable

And some one mopping up the trail after them cashy:rolleyes:

heth 07-05-2011 15:09

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Anyone know what this were about yet?

Eric 28-07-2013 18:28

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 904034)
them colonial coppers ain't safe Mate:D

Well, bud; looks like you are dead right on this one:


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accyman 28-07-2013 22:18

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Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 903927)
Armed copper in an unmarked cop car has just pulled a white lad driving a pimped up fiat panda (or whatever make it was!) outside jobcentre & the cars been towed away wonder what thats all about? :eek:

with the latest experiences iv had with the local fuzz they probbably got mixed up and have not only arrested the poor lad for kidnapping an endangered species but are currently trying to breed it with one of their own panda's at greenbank

accyman 28-07-2013 22:22

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on our street the local fuzz put notices through the doors telling residents theres going to be a police raid some time during the day

obviously they dont put one through the letter box of the intended target but then again a text from a neigbour saying did you get a police notice usually tips off the target lol

sometimes its a miracle they catch anyone infact im surprised they dont have a camera of some sort to do raids and enforce the law like they do with traffic law

xavtia 28-07-2013 23:06

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My parents and their neighbours keep being told by the cops that there is nothing they can do about kids kicking balls at their houses even though they don't live in the area. Follow the kids home and surprise surprise there are no ball games signs everywhere where the kids do actually live.

There have been several police incidents in the area and a very nasty accident, involving the roof being cut off a car, nearby but none of it is ever reported in the papers.

Neil 28-07-2013 23:43

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Most, if not all no ball games signs are not enforceable and reply on people thinking they are

accyman 29-07-2013 00:01

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1068899)
Most, if not all no ball games signs are not enforceable and reply on people thinking they are


so if a housing assaociation threatens eviction because your kids insist on playing ball games in your own garden they havnt really got a leg to stand on ?

also i bought my lad a pinball machine for xmas are you now saying he can play this outdoors :)

on a serious note if parents could be forced to pay for dammage tehir kids did with a ball and the option of telling the victim suffering dammage to tehir car or house to F off removed there wouldnt be a need for no ball games signs

jaysay 29-07-2013 08:04

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1068899)
Most, if not all no ball games signs are not enforceable and reply on people thinking they are

Spot on there Neil not worth the sign they're written on, the number of times councilors are asked to get these signs is incredible and they're not enforceable ;)

Studio25 29-07-2013 08:54

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1068899)
Most, if not all no ball games signs are not enforceable and reply on people thinking they are

Almost all signs telling you what to do, or what not to do, have to have the relevant bylaw and potential penalty displayed on them as well in order to be deemed "effective".

The obvious exception to this is road signs.

The problem with "No ball games" signs on housing association land is that it's private property - and the housing association can make up its own rules and claim trespass if you break them or eviction if it's a repeat "offender". Whether they'd actually go that far on a potentially risky technicality is another matter, though...

accyman 29-07-2013 10:28

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zigzag lines arnt enforceable either infact i think their meaning has been changed to "yes please do park here blocking traffic so you only need to hop 4 feet to the cash machin at the TSB in oswaldtwistle"

other locations available

gpick24 29-07-2013 12:39

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Many of the road markings around Accrington are unenforceable, if they are broken, faded so much that they are incorrect size or not terminated, then you should win an appeal if given a ticket. Thats probably why no one takes any notice of them on B`burn road.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2...0023113_en_126

cashman 29-07-2013 12:44

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Have to disagree they were took no notice of on Blackburn Rd,when well visible.:eek:

Alan Varrechia 29-07-2013 13:24

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Roundabouts are very visible, but it's amazing the amount of people who take no notice of them either. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

gpick24 29-07-2013 13:31

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1068967)
Have to disagree they were took no notice of on Blackburn Rd,when well visible.:eek:

Judging from the pic I put ( from google maps 2009 ), i would guess it`s a long time since the yellow lines were enforceable.

gpick24 29-07-2013 13:33

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Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 1068972)
Roundabouts are very visible, but it's amazing the amount of people who take no notice of them either. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

And so is the "Ahead Only" sign near McDonalds, but still people stop in the middle of the road waiting to turn right.:rolleyes:

Studio25 29-07-2013 14:49

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1068947)
zigzag lines arnt enforceable either infact i think their meaning has been changed to "yes please do park here blocking traffic so you only need to hop 4 feet to the cash machin at the TSB in oswaldtwistle"

other locations available

...like outside Norden (other schools available).

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Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 1068972)
Roundabouts are very visible, but it's amazing the amount of people who take no notice of them either.

Yesterday I got the death glare from someone who nearly hit my car at the mini roundabout next to my house. He was approaching from my left.

gpick24 29-07-2013 15:23

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1068979)
Yesterday I got the death glare from someone who nearly hit my car at the mini roundabout next to my house. He was approaching from my left.

Some people just can`t get the hang of roundabouts, especially mini roundabouts, just sit there waiting, don`t know whether they can go or not.

xavtia 29-07-2013 16:36

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1068899)
Most, if not all no ball games signs are not enforceable and reply on people thinking they are

I realise that it was more the irony that the signs are outside the kids houses but not outside my parents. The law does however prohibit ball games on a public road if it causes an interferes with traffic flow but hey-ho best not go there.

Studio25 29-07-2013 17:25

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1068982)
Some people just can`t get the hang of roundabouts, especially mini roundabouts, just sit there waiting, don`t know whether they can go or not.

I can cope (almost) with that. It's the ones to your right who seem to think they are doing you a favour by letting you go first... I just sit there staring at them.

I've been tempted to throw together a LED matrix sign in the back window with an arduino controller sending it messages to display like "Learn how roundabouts work" or "I bet my tow bar is stronger than your crumple zone"

accyman 29-07-2013 21:25

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1068996)
"I bet my tow bar is stronger than your crumple zone"

my pal used to have "your skid stops here " painted above his army issue tow hitch setup on his series 2a ligtweight land rover

a mark 2 escort found out that the wording was indeed accurate after trying to imtimidate my pal by driving close behind :D

gpick24 29-07-2013 21:27

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1069040)
my pal used to have "your skid stops here " painted above his army issue tow hitch setup on his series 2a ligtweight land rover

a mark 2 escort found out that the wording was indeed accurate after trying to imtimidate my pal by driving close behind :D

I`ve seen that message on the back of a HGV trailer.

Studio25 30-07-2013 16:58

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1069040)
...a mark 2 escort found out that the wording was indeed accurate after trying to imtimidate my pal by driving close behind :D

I've just had something similar - a kid who wasn't paying attention mangled the front of his car on the back of mine, after I slowed because the car ahead was turning right. No damage at all to mine.

Another sign I was thinking of was "Baby on board - but don't slow down. If we crash, my money's on the baby."

accyman 30-07-2013 20:31

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just a heads up there may not be visable dammage but when my car was rear ended it looked fine until they found £800 worth of dammage behind the bumper

forget whatteh part is called now but unlike the bumper it dosnt spring back and shoudl be replaced if dammaged

MargaretR 30-07-2013 21:12

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I was once 'rear ended' when stationary at a road junction with the handbrake on. I had an old VW beetle at the time - built like a tank - no visible damage so I didn't exchange details with the driver who bumped me. I regretted it soon after because the strain of the 'nudge' caused my handbrake cable to snap later that day.

cashman 30-07-2013 21:16

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1069208)
I was once 'rear ended' when stationary at a road junction with the handbrake on. I had an old VW beetle at the time - built like a tank - no visible damage so I didn't exchange details with the driver who bumped me. I regretted it soon after because the strain of the 'nudge' caused my handbrake cable to snap later that day.

Same thing happened to paris at traffic lights at the Old Toll Bar going towards Blackburn centre, though it hit a van parked directly behind her ( van no handbrake on) the guy who caused it was on his mobile.:( She had physio n stuff n still aint right 3 yrs on.:(

accyman 30-07-2013 21:41

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problem these days is even if your not at fault it goes against you on your next insurance premium so it may not be worth claiming for dammage caused by someone else

insurance companies had us by teh balls already this new trick simply squeezes them a little tighter

cashman 30-07-2013 21:58

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1069223)
problem these days is even if your not at fault it goes against you on your next insurance premium so it may not be worth claiming for dammage caused by someone else

insurance companies had us by teh balls already this new trick simply squeezes them a little tighter

Thats true n a sodding disgrace.:mad:

accyman 31-07-2013 03:03

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5 years ago my pal rang up to see how much it would effect his insurance premium teh following year if he claimed for his car stereo that was stolen.The increase in price wa smore than teh stereo was worth

can you guess what happened

yep they increased his next years premium to the same as if he had claimed on the basis that he had been a victim of crime and therefore a greater risk

insurance companies have way too much freedom.People argue that its people claiming for whiplash that increases premiums but to be blunt about it you have to claim for something so you have the money to pay your next premium because you get hit hard even when a victim

i wa sinvolved in a hit and run and when i asked about how it woudl effect my insurance i was told that i was at fault because there was no way the insurance company would accept liability for a driver almost killing me and my kids and driving off so thanks o a set of scumbags i have a pretty expensive claim on my record classed as my fault.

if the police hadnt lost the video of the driver making his escape that PB so kindly found for me teh culprits may have been caught

Studio25 31-07-2013 10:51

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1069243)
...if the police hadnt lost the video of the driver making his escape that PB so kindly found for me teh culprits may have been caught

Next time you "retire" a mobile phone, consider using it with software such as this (there's an IOS equivalent). The crash I mentioned above happened on the first day I had it installed, so I'd have been able to prove at least that I was stationary, and it wasn't my fault.

I'm not sure if it would have any difference on premium etc, because with it not pointing backwards, the insurance company still can't unload their costs on to the faulty driver (if he'd driven off). But they could at least have followed the same pathway as their "hit by an uninsured driver" route.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlE1yg6NdAM

(At the time of writing, audio was being replaced...)

accyman 31-07-2013 15:32

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thats pretty good but i bet theres some law that says you cant use it as evidence like you cant with home cctv

some european right of the criminal or somat

Studio25 02-08-2013 00:41

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True - it's more geared towards proving culpability to insurance companies.

However, when I used to have a studio, the Great Harwood webcam was hosted in my window (it's in the old town hall, now) I had three visits from the police three times to ask if incidents had been caught on the camera. One each of vandalism, vehicle theft and drunken assault. They said they would have been able to use captured video as evidence even if it was just a regular video file, because it would be treated as reliably as an "eye witness".

It only serves video, doesn't store it.


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