Madelaine McCann
 

The Prime Minister has ordered a FULL inquiry into the diasappearance of Madelaine McCann, because her parents are blaming the Portugese Police, authorities, press and Uncle Tom Cobbley for her diasappearance

It hasnt been confirmed whether the investigation will include an examination of the behaviour of parents leaving a little girl alone in bed while they went on the p*ss (sorry, while they dined with friends), but presumably that will be included in any FULL inquiry..

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why they were never charged wi neglect beats me, if had been n ordinary oik i'm sure they would.:rolleyes:

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At the very least they should be charged with neglect.
Every time i see them on tv it makes me squirm. They should write a book. How to get away with murder, the Mcann way.:mad::mad:

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I know them leaving the kids alone was wrong and yes, I agree they should have been charged with neglect, holiday or no holiday, however I still dont think the Portuguese authorities acted promptly enough at the time. They spent too long pussy footing around instead of looking for Maddie.
I think a full enquiry could be very interesting, and yes maybe they wont like what they read if they're negligence has been included in it, and if it has'nt then why not?

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It maybe that the parents of this child were negligent... but to accuse them of murdering their own child with not a scratch of evidence to support this is plain ingnorant.

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How can he order a full enquiry into an event in another country?
They might just say no. I thought this had been looked into already.

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I think the McCanns were probably guilty of something that lots of people have do at some stage in their lives, with no consequence, there's no doubt about it they should have been charged with neglect, but there was something went awry over there, there were mistakes made, but I can't for the life in me think they had anything to do with the child's disappearance, and for a senior police officer to virtually say they were responsible was at best crass or at worst stupid

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I think alot of people find the way this was investigated on a bit dodgy.

I agree with most of you, the parents should have been charged with-out a doubt. I did catch something on the news yesterday morning that the Mum (Kate?) has now said that she thinks that her twns were drugged in some way as they were very sleepy and didnt wake up properly for a while after the discovery were made that Madalaine were missing. My question is why after years has she now decided to bring this up???

Very strange if you ask me.

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So someone crept into the apartment, woke up the twins in order to drug them, and then abducted Madelaine leaving the twins sleeping soundly.

It just doesn't add up.

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Exactly, she said that she thinks they were drugged so they didnt wake if any noise were made taking Maddie.

I then switched off the TV, couldnt listen to any more.
I really do hope this little girl is safe and being looked after if she is still alive but I just dont get any of the "story" it doesnt rest easy with me.

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there was so much furore and misinformation at the time this happened that maybe she did say something and the media just didn't report it.......or it got lost in the media reporting.
The press seemed to be more interested in vilifying the parents for their mistake.

Parents are human beings and as such can make errors of judgement. I feel sorry for the family....Yes, they did something which they now bitterly regret.......and they will be paying for it for the rest of their lives.
To those parents who feel smug and think they would never get themselves into this position I would say.......look at your palms....do you see nail holes? No? then you aren't perfect.

All parents do things, which on reflection, could have had serious consequences, the difference is...for this family the consequences happened, we heard about it and they were vilified.
Have some compassion do!

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There is already a very long thread on this topic -
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...gal-30497.html

I have read a free ebook translation of -
"Maddie - The Truth of the Lie"
It was written by the Portugese detective who conducted the investigation.
Its publication was banned in the UK.

There are facts about this case which are being concealed from mainstream media which could influence your opinion.
I hope that a resurrection of the investigation will reveal the truth, but consider that the chances of that happening are slim.


http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com/

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Margaret, I might just read that...but I would have to read the one by Madelines mother as well.
I believe no detective is going to write a book which shows the investigation in anything but good light. It would be against his interests.....and so though I haven't yet read this, I would be dubious about its veracity.

I think re-hashing the details of this case does nobody any good.

It doesn't help that all over the country...in fact all over the world, there are still people happy to condemn these parents.

If all the parents out there can think of losing a child for 4 minutes......it is a horrible terrifying experience, and it feels like 4 years......now try and imagine what it feels like to have lost a child for 4 years....and, in that time to be cast under the suspicion of murdering your own child.

I am not a particularly maternal person, I never have been......but for me this is beyond imagining.

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The evidence of the sniffer dogs clinched it for me.
The whole rigmarole was a lie to cover an accidental death.

Why? - that is where the plot thickens - there are hints of paedolphilia within the McCann group.

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Hints, do not constitute evidence though.
Had there been evidence then I am sure it would have been acted upon.
The Portugese Authorities would have loved to see the case with a satisfactory resolution.

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there are at least 3 sides to every tale, in this case, the police, McCanns and the truth....

I do seem to recall that they proved that the children had been regularly sedated though which doesn;t put teh parents in a great light, I do agree in the losing a child though, I couldn;t possibly appreciate what that must feel like

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mmm interesting reading and I have only read a bit so far.

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i cant for the life of me find the clip of an interview they did where they re appealed and held an interview on a tv morning show all teary eyed and glum for them only not to not realise the camera was still on them to switch instantly to smiles and laughter with the interviewer as the program delayed switching to a different host (the news i think it was)

i personally thought it very odd behavior for both parents to instantly go to smiles and laughter after just pouring their hearts out about their lost daughter on live tv reliving what has occurred.

never mind the Portuguese police a full enquirery should be held into them and even if they didn't murder their own child they hold a huge portion of responsibility for her death.

there was more outrage at them been arrested by the Portuguese in the papers than what there was about their neglect but as we know the press like to take a pop at johnny foreigner whenever they can.

not a conspiracy nutter i just think the parents or at least one of them killed her and through police errors and press interference they have got away with it

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Shock and grief can/does make people act irrationally. Crying one minute and laughing the next.
The demeanor of Madelines mother has not altered in the four years which have passed....she still has the haunted look of a grieving mother......and one who beats herself everyday with the 'what ifs'.

Lindy Chamberlain was jailed for the murder of her daughter Azaria, it was later discovered that a Dingo had stolen this child.

While the cases are vastly different in the manner of disappearance of the two children, the vilification of the family, paticularly the mother in both cases presents similarities.

Kate Mc Cann courted the media. It was her belief that the media, and constant media attention would lead to her daughter being found.

If she could go back and change things then we would never ever have heard of her or her family...and I'm very, very sure, she wishes that this was possible.

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An ex-friend of the McCanns did make a statement to the police -
The Gasper`s statement
extract -

“One night, when all the adults, that is, from those couples I have mentioned above, were all sitting around on a patio outside the house where we were all staying. We had been eating and drinking ‘Berbers’.
I was sitting between Gerry and Dave and I think both were talking about Madeleine. I can’t remember the conversation in its entirety, but they seemed to be discussing a particular scenario. I remember Dave saying to Gerry something about ‘she’, meaning Madeleine, ‘would do this’.

“While he mentioned the word ‘this’, Dave was doing the action of sucking one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, while with his other hand he was doing a circle around his nipple, with a circular movement around his clothes. This was done in a provocative way. There seemed to be an explicit insinuation about what he was saying and doing. I remember being shocked by that. I always felt it was something very weird and that it was not something anyone should say or do. I looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to gauge their reactions.


“I looked around as if saying: “Did someone else hear that, or was it just me?”. The conversations stopped for a moment, then we all began conversing again. Moreover, I remember Dave doing the same thing on another occasion. In saying this, I want to mention once again that it was during a conversation in which he was talking about an imaginary scenario, although I’m not sure. He again stuck one of his fingers in and out of his mouth and with the other hand he once again drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual way. I think he was referring to the way she, that is, his daughter Lily, would behave or what she would do. I think he did this later during this same holiday, but I’m not sure."

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I stand by my earlier post and say, that if there were concrete evidence then the portugese police would have used it to bring the case to resolution....something that they failed to do.

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Which could be explained if it was a covered up accident due to the children being left alone.

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That may have something to do with it. After all, if you believed that you were responsible for the loss of your child by something you failed to do...or for that matter, something you did that you should not have done, then of course you are going to punish yourself........and far more than any court in the land could ever do.

I can only speak from my own perspective here, but if I had been repsonsible for the accidental death of my child, I do not think I could carry that burden for four days, let alone 4 years, without admitting it.

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I offer this a possible reason why the original investigation did not expose the truth and why the McCanns had the backing of Gordon Brown

'Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.org
extract -
While British Prime Minister Tony Blair is under criminal suspicion in the "honours-for-cash" scandal that has rocked his Labour government, we have been told that there is an even more explosive scandal that Blair, up to now, has managed to hide behind the draconian British policy of issuing "D-Notices," government orders that prohibit the British media from reporting on certain "national security" cases.
In 1999, an international investigation of child pornographers and paedophiles run by Britain's National Criminal Intelligence Service, code named Operation Ore, resulted in 7,250 suspects being identified in the United Kingdom alone. Some 1850 people were criminally charged in the case and there were 1451 convictions. Almost 500 people were interviewed "under caution" by police, meaning they were suspects. Some 900 individuals remain under investigation. In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair's government.
However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice. Police also discovered links between British Labour government paedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution from Belgium and Portugal (including young boys from the Casa Pia orphanage in Portugal).
Tony Blair: stifling investigations of paedophiles in his Labour government.

...and scroll down to read the list
'Assorted Party Political Perverts for your attention'



There is no end to the depth of 'the rabbit hole'.
The political corruption appears to be more than 'financial'
......and that is why he truth will continue to be supressed using 'D notices'

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I feel that this thread is going to go round and round in ever decreasing circles, like the last one did. For that reason, I will post no further comments to the thread.

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I agree - last comment by me too.

I have said too much - awaiting visit from 'men in black:D

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Anyone remember the Belgium Paedophile case from several years back -
Marc Dutroux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
there was a Policeman involved in that which allowed two girls to be abducted and murdered etc - he deliberatly stopped a search of a house where the girls were hidden!

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perhaps they could have got the job done if they weren't constantly been harrassed by the then british government to get the maccans home in an attempt to cash in on some good Google Page Ranking after the newspapers stirred up the public into thinking these parents were victims and not suspects in a murder enquirey?

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I can't help thinking that if the parents have done something terrible and Maddy is no longer alive then the last thing they would want to do is to keep re-focussing media attention on the case?? Wouldn't they want it all to just go quiet and hope that was the end of it?

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Well I think in every situation in life where this type of thing is involved there are two sides to every store and somewhere in the middle lies the truth

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A couple of interesting points have arisen over this case during the day.

1. Why has the Prime Minister singled out this particular case for further investigation, when there are many other cases which have not received such treatment? For example, will he now ask the Met to investigate the disappearance of little Ben Needham on the island of Kos a few years ago?

2. What powers does the PM have to dictate how the Met uses scarce resources to look at a case that has nothing to do with them? The Met Commissioner says it was him who made the decision, but he would say that, wouldn't he, if he wanted to keep his job.

It smacks of a political gimmick from Cameron, nothing more and nothing less.

The last post is spot on - interesting that he chose the same time the book is launched to make the announcement & that the McCanns spokesman did some work at Tory central office during the elections. A case of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours

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It is shocking and sad that this little girl went missing, but why as a British taxpayer are my taxes going to be used on a inquiry into this missing girl, when this happened in another county, surely it should be that country paying and holding the inquiry. They as parents made a mistake by leaving their little girl asleep in bed, a mistake they have to live with every day. Holding an inquiry isn't going to bring her back or change what has happened or change how the Portugese police operate, so what is the point of the inquiry??

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thats crap in my eyes, yep lots of folk have done dumb things wi kids n no consequences, dont dispute that, but doubt if very many or even any have left kids in n "unlocked" apartment n sodded off fer a meal n drink, also doubt if many have declined the baby sitting service available, i dont understand why people make excuses fer these arrogant sods.:cool: they have blamed the Portugese police, who may well have cocked up, never once have i heard em take responsibility. bottom line is- If the Mcanns had been responsible parents,the poor lass would not be missing, n the taxpayer would not be paying fer this. simple as.

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whenever i hear of people who leave their kids unattended while they go out and get drunk its usually some scroat scumbag junkie that gets their picture in the local paper demonised and put up as candidate for most evil person in town and thats when no harm comes to the child as a result.

some couple who with a few quid in the bank does the same in a foreign country and they are victims and worthy of the nations sympathy and a bit of free publicity from the priminister for their book :rolleyes:

Re: Madelaine McCann
 

Spot on accyman.

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I'm with Cashy. Spot on Accyman.

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I've just read all 25 chapters from the link MargeretR gave and I must say it made me think