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panther 16-05-2011 15:08
The fair is in ossy!
 
At whiteash playing fields, off harvey st!, WHY?, its gonna wreck it.... Do they need permission for that?, if so which idiot gave it?:mad:
Lorrys starting to park on it already and caravans, it looks a right sight, not to mention Harvey St is getting full off lorrys parking on it.:(

steve2qec 16-05-2011 15:19
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Better keep our doors and windows locked!!

accyman 16-05-2011 15:29
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the road blockage that's been caused isn't the fair peoples fault its the ignorant sods who are parking outside the community center that have dumped their cars directly across from the wagons making it pretty awkward and risky driving down Harvey street.Theses a flipping carpark at the rear they could have used but nope walking a few extra feet isn't an option.I would say the fair people are causing less obstruction than the parents of teh football teams that play there at weekends because at least the fair people arnt double parking

excellent choice of location for the fair i will be definitely taking the kids to it.

the music will most likely be heard even with my windows shut but as long as they dont play justing bieber i can live with it.:D

steve2qec 16-05-2011 15:56
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Didn't mean it from a noise point-of-view, but perhaps I shouldn't tar all our itinerant friends with the same brush.

accyman 16-05-2011 16:04
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Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 906656)
Didn't mean it from a noise point-of-view, but perhaps I shouldn't tar all our itinerant friends with the same brush.
dont get me wrong the sheds getting an extra padlock slapped on it just incase :D

thats this weeks quota of stereotyping done now whats next on the list of things to do lol :D

jaysay 16-05-2011 17:55
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How long is it since the Fair was in Ossy, I can't remember, can't remember it being mentioned on here before either

Neil 16-05-2011 20:14
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I cant believe they are legally setting up on the football fields so what is our wonderful council going to do about the destruction of the playing fields and what is it going to cost the council to repair the damage?

Maybe one of our many councillor members would like to comment

lancsdave 16-05-2011 20:18
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 906757)
I cant believe they are legally setting up on the football fields so what is our wonderful council going to do about the destruction of the playing fields and what is it going to cost the council to repair the damage?

Maybe one of our many councillor members would like to comment
Which ward is it in ?

Neil 16-05-2011 20:25
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 906758)
Which ward is it in ?
Not sure, I would guess at St Andrews.

cashman 16-05-2011 20:49
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Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 906648)
Better keep our doors and windows locked!!
from the chavs that hang around the fairs, the gaff lads never were a problem in that respect.;)

vicky1 16-05-2011 21:12
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Hope its better than the little bit of a fair we had in the town centre the other weekend

Mancie 16-05-2011 21:36
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 906765)
from the chavs that hang around the fairs, the gaff lads never were a problem in that respect.;)
I was thinking the same :)

Ken Moss 16-05-2011 21:44
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 906757)
I cant believe they are legally setting up on the football fields so what is our wonderful council going to do about the destruction of the playing fields and what is it going to cost the council to repair the damage?

Maybe one of our many councillor members would like to comment
Perhaps you'd like to ask your old mate Peter as it appears to be in his ward and it seems unlikely that a licence has been applied for and granted within 9 days of the new administration.

Technically, he is still Leader of the Council until the AGM on 24th May and presumably has all the answers.

flashy 16-05-2011 22:02
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Well said Ken

cashman 16-05-2011 22:04
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906784)
Perhaps you'd like to ask your old mate Peter as it appears to be in his ward and it seems unlikely that a licence has been applied for and granted within 9 days of the new administration.

Technically, he is still Leader of the Council until the AGM on 24th May and presumably has all the answers.
Yeh but Ken P.B. speak wi forked Tongue.;)

accyman 16-05-2011 22:34
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 906789)
Yeh but Ken P.B. speak wi forked Tongue.;)
yeah and other peoples keyboards :D

accyman 16-05-2011 22:50
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906784)
Perhaps you'd like to ask your old mate Peter as it appears to be in his ward and it seems unlikely that a licence has been applied for and granted within 9 days of the new administration.

Technically, he is still Leader of the Council until the AGM on 24th May and presumably has all the answers.
plenty of room in Rhyddings park if people arnt happy about the football field been used :D

BERNADETTE 16-05-2011 22:53
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Finding it very hard to believe that even PB would have the gall to grant a licence per say for the fair to pitch anywhere without any opposition councillors getting a whiff of what was planned. Maybe just me but find it incredible that it could happen without a whisper escaping

cashman 16-05-2011 23:06
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yeh are kidding bernie? they knew very little about where n how much of the dosh had gone/was going, so this would be dead easy imho.

accyman 16-05-2011 23:06
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hmmm i find it hard to believe too especially with how open the Tory councilors have been over the past years and their excellent record of working with opposition councilors to help this town improve rather than destroy it..

oh hang on....

there probably was a meeting about it but meeting times were most likely altered so that opposition party members couldn't attend :D

i will say that i hope these tricks arnt mirrored and will now be a thing of the past and all decisons made about our town will be voted upon by a full council

BERNADETTE 16-05-2011 23:15
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 906804)
yeh are kidding bernie? they knew very little about where n how much of the dosh had gone/was going, so this would be dead easy imho.
Sorry but if you are elected surely it is your place to know where cash is going? Why was there not enough "evidence" as to the misuse of cash given by opposition? We all know cash has been misspent but why was the spending allowed in the first place?

BERNADETTE 16-05-2011 23:16
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 906804)
yeh are kidding bernie? they knew very little about where n how much of the dosh had gone/was going, so this would be dead easy imho.
But isn't that their job as our elected members to know where the money was going or am I missing the point?

cashman 16-05-2011 23:18
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 906808)
Sorry but if you are elected surely it is your place to know where cash is going? Why was there not enough "evidence" as to the misuse of cash given by opposition? We all know cash has been misspent but why was the spending allowed in the first place?
Sorry but thats the most naive thing ive read on here. yeh could parallel that wi a countries leader? Hitler conned a large percentage of the german people.

BERNADETTE 16-05-2011 23:52
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 906810)
Sorry but thats the most naive thing ive read on here. yeh could parallel that wi a countries leader? Hitler conned a large percentage of the german people.
For goodness sake, if you count me as naive why are we bothering voting? So we now have PB being compared to Hitler, he surely could only "con" the people who wanted to be conned and they can't all have been Tories:( Getting a bit fed up of all the backbiting again, makes me wonder why I bothered voting:mad:

Neil 17-05-2011 06:24
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906784)
Perhaps you'd like to ask your old mate Peter as it appears to be in his ward and it seems unlikely that a licence has been applied for and granted within 9 days of the new administration.

Technically, he is still Leader of the Council until the AGM on 24th May and presumably has all the answers.
I am confused now, is there a new administration or not?

I had hoped things were going to get better, looks like I am naive like Bernie :D

It is officers not councillors who will have to sort out this problem. If no licence has been given then they are illegally trading. I am more bothered about the cost to the council for repairing the damage and all the football teams that will turn up to play matches only to find they can't.

Ken Moss 17-05-2011 06:32
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 906808)
Sorry but if you are elected surely it is your place to know where cash is going? Why was there not enough "evidence" as to the misuse of cash given by opposition? We all know cash has been misspent but why was the spending allowed in the first place?
The vast majority of cash was spent in the last three months, with April alone seeing the best part of an entire budget for the year completely wiped out. There is now nothing left in the Cabinet Action Fund (£100k) for emergencies because it was handed out prior to the elections and at the moment we are unable to publish the spreadsheet although this will change in a very short time under Freedom of Information. The spending was not considered unconstitutional as far as I understand so nothing could be done to stop them. Unless the opposition ask specific questions about spending then the information is not readily handed over.

The problem we now face is that money was spent to the tune of £5.2m, a figure that the council couldn't in any way afford and something which surprised most of us, even coming from Britcliffe. The full scale of the damage caused by the man will come out over the next year but if we honoured everything which he promised then we would have had to raise council tax by something in the region of 50% in order to meet the government targets for cuts as well.

They've left the borough in great shape.

Pear, I think.

Ken Moss 17-05-2011 06:40
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 906819)
I am confused now, is there a new administration or not?

I had hoped things were going to get better, looks like I am naive like Bernie :D

It is officers not councillors who will have to sort out this problem. If no licence has been given then they are illegally trading. I am more bothered about the cost to the council for repairing the damage and all the football teams that will turn up to play matches only to find they can't.
Any new administration only officially takes up office after the council AGM, which this year is on 24th May. Malcolm Pritchard is also technically still the Mayor even though Cllr McCormack is Mayor-elect.

Take up the problem of the fair with your ward councillors, that is what they are paid for.

Do make sure that you report back what they have to say.

I have a feeling that 13 years of Labour rule and that nasty Graham Jones will be responsible somehow.

Neil 17-05-2011 06:46
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906821)
I have a feeling that 13 years of Labour rule and that nasty Graham Jones will be responsible somehow.
Now you are being silly

Neil 17-05-2011 06:50
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 906808)
We all know cash has been misspent but why was the spending allowed in the first place?
Councillors can't sign the cheques. Do we not have finance and legal officers to make sure what the Councillors are doing is legal and there is money in the bank or can Councillors do anything they want?

Ken Moss 17-05-2011 06:55
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 906822)
Now you are being silly
Oh I do hope so. If becoming a councillor means a mandatory revocation of my sense of humour then it's time for me to go because I'm not going to fit in. However, after hearing the 'usual reply' in many Conservative answers over the past 12 months I don't see any reason why sarcasm shouldn't creep into a few of mine.

At the moment we need to inform people of just what we have inherited from Cllr Britcliffe's regime but after a time it will become wearing for the public, just as it does nationally.

I have complete faith in the Labour group to put things right but it will be monumentally difficult.

Ken Moss 17-05-2011 07:04
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 906805)
i will say that i hope these tricks arnt mirrored and will now be a thing of the past and all decisons made about our town will be voted upon by a full council
The Labour group don't believe in dirty tricks as a way of conducting the council. The public don't like it and it does us absolutely no favours in terms of trying to persuade people that we're doing what's best for the borough.

Not all decisions will be taken at full Council meetings or they'd probably go on for several days at a time but anything which changes the constitution needs to be voted on by all members. Again, any dubious decisions made behind closed doors which look as if they're self-serving will soon be sniffed out by the public (take the Peel Street toilets debacle) so it really isn't in our interests to do such things.

Cuts need to be made and it is likely that not everything is going to go down well with the public but please just bear in mind that much of what we have to do is dictated to by central government and Cllr Britcliffe has just made that immeasurably worse by leaving us with huge bills.

What he would have done if he had retained control is something of a mystery.

Eric 17-05-2011 07:47
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906826)
The Labour group don't believe in dirty tricks as a way of conducting the council. The public don't like it and it does us absolutely no favours in terms of trying to persuade people that we're doing what's best for the borough.

Not all decisions will be taken at full Council meetings or they'd probably go on for several days at a time but anything which changes the constitution needs to be voted on by all members. Again, any dubious decisions made behind closed doors which look as if they're self-serving will soon be sniffed out by the public (take the Peel Street toilets debacle) so it really isn't in our interests to do such things.

Cuts need to be made and it is likely that not everything is going to go down well with the public but please just bear in mind that much of what we have to do is dictated to by central government and Cllr Britcliffe has just made that immeasurably worse by leaving us with huge bills.

What he would have done if he had retained control is something of a mystery.
Mmmm ... "sniffed out" and "toilets" in the same sentence:eek: ... an unfortunate juxtaposition.;) But your last point has crossed my mind too. One can only conclude that he knew he had a snowball in hell's chance of retaining control.

cashman 17-05-2011 08:06
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 906812)
For goodness sake, if you count me as naive why are we bothering voting? So we now have PB being compared to Hitler, he surely could only "con" the people who wanted to be conned and they can't all have been Tories:( Getting a bit fed up of all the backbiting again, makes me wonder why I bothered voting:mad:
well that justifies me comment, cos i aint backbiting am just stating me opinion. does the fact you disagree make it backbiting?:rolleyes:

lancsdave 17-05-2011 08:19
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 906823)
Councillors can't sign the cheques. Do we not have finance and legal officers to make sure what the Councillors are doing is legal and there is money in the bank or can Councillors do anything they want?

Puzzles me as well. If well paid council officers ( I suspect they are well paid compared to most ) are actually carrying out the councillors instructions surely it is up to them to say something or do something if things aren't right. No disrespect to the councillors but I doubt we have that many that are fully qualified accountants

Neil 17-05-2011 08:21
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906821)
Take up the problem of the fair with your ward councillors, that is what they are paid for.

Just been informed this fair is all legal and licensed.

Any damaged will be covered by the fair and they will open from Thursday to Sunday.

Thursday Friday 6pm - 9pm and 1pm till 9pm over the weekend.

jaysay 17-05-2011 08:42
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906826)
The Labour group don't believe in dirty tricks as a way of conducting the council.
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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::r ofl38:

Ken Moss 17-05-2011 08:45
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 906835)
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::r ofl38:
Again, things have happened in times gone by so that MUST be the same now.

This is what we're up against.

jaysay 17-05-2011 09:06
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906836)
Again, things have happened in times gone by so that MUST be the same now.

This is what we're up against.
You'll be telling me next that the leopard has changed its spots, wherever there is politics there will always be dirty tricks and if you believe any different your greener than I thought you were Ken, and I'm talking about all aspects of politics here, whiter than white politicians have not been born, seem to remember Mr Blair said Whiter than White Government was his flag ship policy in 1997, whoops what happened. The road to hell is paved with good intentions Ken, always remember that

Ken Moss 17-05-2011 09:32
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 906844)
The road to hell is paved with good intentions Ken, always remember that
Good advice and rest assured that I will remember.

It saddens me then that I was presented with a libel suit this week from Cllr Clarke on a matter which I have previously apologised for in public and on Accrington Web over two months ago as requested.

Where I look to the future, it seems that some others are fixated upon the mistakes of the past.

jaysay 17-05-2011 10:47
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906850)
Good advice and rest assured that I will remember.

It saddens me then that I was presented with a libel suit this week from Cllr Clarke on a matter which I have previously apologised for in public and on Accrington Web over two months ago as requested.

Where I look to the future, it seems that some others are fixated upon the mistakes of the past.
Sadly it comes with the territory Ken, why do you think I called it a day many moons ago, I got threatened with legal action for calling some one Little Man on here, needless to say he is now on my ignored list so I ain't tempted again

cashman 17-05-2011 10:55
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 906850)

It saddens me then that I was presented with a libel suit this week from Cllr Clarke on a matter which I have previously apologised for in public and on Accrington Web over two months ago as requested.

Where I look to the future, it seems that some others are fixated upon the mistakes of the past.
Nowt like a good LOSER.:rolleyes:don't let it unduly worry yeh, Losers don't usually win.;)

flashy 17-05-2011 10:59
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And as cashy's signature says Ken...N.L.T.B.G.Y.D ;)

Ken Moss 17-05-2011 11:01
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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 906862)
And as cashy's signature say Ken...N.L.T.B.G.Y.D ;)
Also very good advice, Shaz!

;)

Neil 17-05-2011 12:29
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 906859)
....I got threatened with legal action for calling some one Little Man on here.....
hahaha that is funny, I suppose it depends how tall he is :D

flashy 17-05-2011 12:40
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Nah Neil, he probably got threatened with legal action because the person he called 'little man' was actually a woman ;)

cashman 17-05-2011 13:00
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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 906878)
Nah Neil, he probably got threatened with legal action because the person he called 'little man' was actually a woman ;)
Not if its who i think it is.;)

MargaretR 17-05-2011 13:17
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Libel actions are no longer financed by legal aid so, unless the plaintiff has access to a bottomless pit of money, the action is likely to be a threat and no more.

accyman 17-05-2011 13:34
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if any damage is done to the playing fields money to repair it could be raised pretty quickly by issuing fixed penalty notices on the cars parked illegally when football matches and football training etc are on.It rivals blackburn road some days down Harvey street.

also i would have thought anyone with the slightest bit of business sense would negotiate some sort of rent fee for the land to help pay for clean up costs when they ask to set up in town

Bee 17-05-2011 15:57
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Grrr...I hate those chavvy fairs!!!.

flashy 17-05-2011 17:10
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Someone was obviously never a child

accyman 17-05-2011 17:13
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i think the funfairs that visit here are safer than blackpool pleasure beech.

funfair people have been doing it since childhood where as blackpool pleasure beech employ the first polish guy to come along with his own spanner :)

oh.. allegedly :D


funfairs also dont charge you for merely walking around the place and lets face it funfair waltzers are much better

jaysay 17-05-2011 17:43
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 906875)
hahaha that is funny, I suppose it depends how tall he is :D
Was referring to his brain;)

jaysay 17-05-2011 17:44
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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 906878)
Nah Neil, he probably got threatened with legal action because the person he called 'little man' was actually a woman ;)
Ummmm Pass:rolleyes:

jaysay 17-05-2011 17:46
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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 906916)
Someone was obviously never a child
Hey, he still is Shaz:D

Bee 24-05-2011 18:39
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Well, I was a Child, but I really never liked fairs which invaded the area.

Bee 24-05-2011 18:41
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 906937)
Hey, he still is Shaz:D
Im 30 not 3 so phffftttt!:mad::mad::mad:.

jaysay 24-05-2011 18:43
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Originally Posted by Bee (Post 908563)
Im 30 not 3 so phffftttt!:mad::mad::mad:.
Act like it then;)


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