Accrington Web

Accrington Web (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/index.php)
-   General Chat (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f69/)
-   -   New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan (https://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f69/new-blood-test-supposed-to-determine-your-lifespan-57921.html)

steeljack 17-05-2011 19:07

New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
This "new" test is getting a bit of airtime over here , found this link about it the Daily Telegraph (UK London) and its not far from the 'debunked' Science of Eugenics

New £435 blood 'death test will prove a person's longevity' - Telegraph

think this raises lots of questions and needs to be sorted sooner rather than later , not so much for folks like me but for the young ,are the powers that be going to be able to decide if its cost effective to offer various costly health treatments or a decent education to the ones who have the wrong chromosones (sp?), not to mention life insurance and lots of other stuff .
Understand Science has to progress , and lots of good things have been found by unpalatable research ... But this , I'm not so sure about :confused: :confused:

Anyone care to comment on the subject

MargaretR 17-05-2011 19:12

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
An expensive rip off!
I consider environmental factors have a greater effect than genes in determining life expectancy.

accyman 17-05-2011 19:27

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
pay for blood test then walk out of testing center with bit of paper saying your gonna live to 95 years of age and get hit by a bus :D

MargaretR 17-05-2011 19:47

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
There are some people who believe everything that a medico tells them.
As the year of death approaches they will get sick i.e. they will make sure that -
'the doctor is always right':rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 17-05-2011 20:06

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
I can't see there being many takers for this expensive blood test........I was going to say exactly the same thing that Accyman has observed....you could spend all that money having the test, and then die in other circumstances.

Margaret Pilkington 17-05-2011 20:07

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 906974)
There are some people who believe everything that a medico tells them.
As the year of death approaches they will get sick i.e. they will make sure that -
'the doctor is always right':rolleyes:

That is a bit like how voodoo works.

If you tell someone they are going to die...you will always be right!

Eric 17-05-2011 21:05

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 906972)
pay for blood test then walk out of testing center with bit of paper saying your gonna live to 95 years of age and get hit by a bus :D

Exactly what crossed my mind;)

Romps 17-05-2011 21:42

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
how very morbid, nothing like waiting for your number to be up! Don't think it will be available in Tesco pharmacy any time soon.......tho you never can tell!:rolleyes:

Mancie 17-05-2011 21:57

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
What a load of rubbish...reading your future from tea cups went out of fashion with the invention of teabags... now we have some business minded charlatans wanting to charge £435 for the same old kak... and they call this progress? :D

jaysay 18-05-2011 08:46

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 906980)
I can't see there being many takers for this expensive blood test........I was going to say exactly the same thing that Accyman has observed....you could spend all that money having the test, and then die in other circumstances.

Ya Margaret I have a blood test every fortnight, which intimates that I could, at least, have another two weeks:D

Benipete 18-05-2011 09:19

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 907070)
Ya Margaret I have a blood test every fortnight, which intimates that I could, at least, have another two weeks:D

Mine are every six months.:tongueout:D:D

jaysay 18-05-2011 09:37

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 907077)
Mine are every six months.:tongueout:D:D

Thats because they only get ale when they take your samples Beni:p:p:p:D:D

Margaret Pilkington 18-05-2011 10:55

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 907070)
Ya Margaret I have a blood test every fortnight, which intimates that I could, at least, have another two weeks:D

Yes, but yours are not the ones you have to pay for John:)....or at least I hope they aren't.

MargaretR 18-05-2011 11:16

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
I have had blood tests a few years ago.
The only thing wrong with me was said to be 'high cholesterol'.
My research on the web has convinced me that there is nothing ominous about having 'high cholesterol'.

When it comes to the crunch, many of these tests are excuses to convince you that you need expensive drugs, or to monitor the effects of drugs already prescribed.

Blood tests are a useful tool, as long as you don't just accept a doc's interpretation of them.

MargaretR 18-05-2011 11:29

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
PS -
A few months ago I paid £55 for a hair mineral analysis.(by post direct to a lab)
I did it to decide whether my detox methods had succeeded in ridding me of heavy metals.
I had symptoms of mercury poisoning following that year in which my (mercury amalgam filled) teeth were extracted one after another.
No such test is available on the NHS, and most conventional docs would not know what the test results indicate.

Monitor your own health - you happen to be the person who knows your body best
...and the only one who really cares enough to put things right.

cashman 18-05-2011 13:08

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Had they succeeded margaret?

MargaretR 18-05-2011 13:11

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 907102)
Had they succeeded margaret?

Yes - thanks for your concern - I'm free of all heavy metal toxicity.

cashman 18-05-2011 13:27

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
then thats £55 well spent in my book.:)

Benipete 18-05-2011 13:49

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 907110)
then thats £55 well spent in my book.:)

I've been free of my marbles for some years now.:hehetable

yerself 18-05-2011 15:21

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR
The only thing wrong with me was said to be 'high cholesterol'.
My research on the web has convinced me that there is nothing ominous about having 'high cholesterol'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR
Blood tests are a useful tool, as long as you don't just accept a doc's interpretation of them.

Dear Doctor Maggie,

Do you think I should stop taking my statins then?
As it's usually ones Doctor who orders blood tests and receives the results thereof, whose interpretation do you think we should ask for?

Yours faithfully,

Worried of Hyndburn.

yerself 18-05-2011 15:23

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR
The only thing wrong with me was said to be 'high cholesterol'.
My research on the web has convinced me that there is nothing ominous about having 'high cholesterol'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR
Blood tests are a useful tool, as long as you don't just accept a doc's interpretation of them.

Dear Doctor Maggie,

Do you think I should stop taking my statins then?
As it's usually ones Doctor who orders blood tests and receives the results thereof, whose interpretation do you think we should ask for?

Yours faithfully,

Worried of Hyndburn.

yerself 18-05-2011 15:23

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Double post. Accyweb database suffered an error and posted twice.

MargaretR 18-05-2011 16:01

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 907145)
Dear Doctor Maggie,

Do you think I should stop taking my statins then?
As it's usually ones Doctor who orders blood tests and receives the results thereof, whose interpretation do you think we should ask for?

Yours faithfully,

Worried of Hyndburn.

You have the internet access just as I do.
Look, and decide after you have looked.;)

Surprisingly enough, after years of docs trying to get everyone over 55 on statins, even the mainstream media are reporting serious doubts.

Having muscle weakness and loss of short term memory are you?:D


You could start your exploration here
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cho..._en-GB___GB343
http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surg...rticles/36.htm

MargaretR 18-05-2011 16:23

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
PS -IF you decide to stop taking them, you will need to WEAN yourself off them -
...............your decision - I know my body, know nothing about yours:D

jaysay 18-05-2011 17:43

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 907087)
Yes, but yours are not the ones you have to pay for John:)....or at least I hope they aren't.

Margaret there's no such thing as a free lunch:rolleyes:

jaysay 18-05-2011 17:44

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 907120)
I've been free of my marbles for some years now.:hehetable

Don't we know it Beni:D:D:p

jaysay 18-05-2011 17:47

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 907155)
You have the internet access just as I do.
Look, and decide after you have looked.;)

Surprisingly enough, after years of docs trying to get everyone over 55 on statins, even the mainstream media are reporting serious doubts.

Having muscle weakness and loss of short term memory are you?:D


You could start your exploration here
cholesterol myths - Google Search
Cholesterol Myths By Dr. Ravnskov

I must be the lucky one then Margaret, I've never had statins and I'm nearly 65:Banane45:

cashman 18-05-2011 18:07

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 907188)
I must be the lucky one then Margaret, I've never had statins and I'm nearly 65:Banane45:

Better Statins n what you got mate.;)

jaysay 18-05-2011 18:12

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 907199)
Better Statins n what you got mate.;)

Shushhhhhh cashy I'm trying to forget:D

Gobbiner17 18-05-2011 18:17

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 907091)
PS -
Monitor your own health - you happen to be the person who knows your body best
...and the only one who really cares enough to put things right.

Best advice there is. No good relying on anybody else. Conventional doctors only know the half of it and alternative ones as well. How often has your GP asked you about exercise or what food you eat? The answer is NEVER for me. And yet food is the drug we all take most of all and exercise is so important. How often has your GP offered you an allergy test? NEVER for me. And yet for me personally, I had one up Gorse Rd in Blackburn years ago which sorted me out very quickly. When doctors or alternatives don't work, we just have to take Margaret's advice.

The new blood test sounds like another gimmick to me, another way of making money out of the vulnerable.

Margaret Pilkington 18-05-2011 20:00

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
My husband was on statins for a number of years, he started having memory problems and also muscle pains in his arms and chest......I told him that this was due to him being on Simvastatin(the cheapest of the statins, and also the one that needs a bigger dose to be effective).......the muscle weakness is permanent, nothing can be done to reverse the effects.......the memory loss, that too, seems to be permanent

Our brains need cholesterol to function normally, our muscles too, and our liver makes what our individual body needs........the 'one size fits all' medicine is fatally flawed.

For myself, I would never take statins....that is my choice.

Gordon Booth 18-05-2011 20:26

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
My wife and I were put on statins, even though our cholesterol levels were normal to low.After a few months she started to have pain in her right arm which built up over a period until she was in severe pain most of the time. Couldn't use her arm! Different doctors gave her different pills, sent her for physio- no relief.
For some reason I read up the Simvastatin leaflet-it mentions muscle pain among many other possible side effects! She went back to the doctors and asked about this-'Oh, yes, it could be that, stop taking them.' Within two days the pain was easing, after one week it had gone! It has never troubled her since.As MargaretR says, don't always leave it to the doctors, check it out yourself!
I stopped taking them as well.

jaysay 19-05-2011 09:07

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 907245)
My wife and I were put on statins, even though our cholesterol levels were normal to low.After a few months she started to have pain in her right arm which built up over a period until she was in severe pain most of the time. Couldn't use her arm! Different doctors gave her different pills, sent her for physio- no relief.
For some reason I read up the Simvastatin leaflet-it mentions muscle pain among many other possible side effects! She went back to the doctors and asked about this-'Oh, yes, it could be that, stop taking them.' Within two days the pain was easing, after one week it had gone! It has never troubled her since.As MargaretR says, don't always leave it to the doctors, check it out yourself!
I stopped taking them as well.

I think everybody should check out their own meds, I am probably on more prescribed drugs than most people, but I know exactly what there purpose is and any side effects that can occur, another thing I'm keen on is interaction with other drugs, When I take some anti bios I have to reduce the strength of a couple of other drugs because there strength is increased by interaction, but I honestly believe I wouldn't be here today without the medication I'm on, as I've said before complimentary medicines are fine, but I have yet to come across anything which works to subside a full blown asthma attack from the complementary range

MargaretR 19-05-2011 09:24

Re: New Blood test supposed to determine your lifespan
 
An effect of statins which does not show in side effects, is depletion of your body's production of a vital substance - Co-enzyme Q10(Ubiquinol).
To learn what vital importance this substance performs -
Statins Inhibit Coenzyme Q10 Synthesis.
It naturally protects you against heart disease.

So the statins which supposedly:rolleyes: protect you against heart disease can be increasing your risk of it:eek:


All times are GMT. The time now is 23:46.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
© 2003-2013 AccringtonWeb.com