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Retlaw 07-07-2011 15:22

Vodaphone Mast in Hollins Lane
 
Just had an enquiry regarding an application by Vodaphone, to erect a phone mast in Hollins Lane,
near the top gates of Oak Hill Park.
Any one known anything about it.
Retlaw.

katex 07-07-2011 16:23

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Only this, Rets: :D

Application No:11/11/0296Registration Date:04 Jul 2011Location:LAND AT HOLLINS LANE, ACCRINGTONDevelopment:Full: Erection of 13.8m high Telecommunications mast with two associated equipment cabinets

Case File

Tealeaf 07-07-2011 16:24

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Dunno about Hollins Lane...there was an application about 2 months ago to stick one up at the Crown ground.

phil8715 07-07-2011 19:14

There was application turned down in Rishton on Parker Street old papermill. Personally I didn't have a problem one being built.

MargaretR 07-07-2011 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phil8715 (Post 917271)
There was application turned down in Rishton on Parker Street old papermill. Personally I didn't have a problem one being built.

Some people do have objections
ElectroSensitivity UK - Homepage

Retlaw 07-07-2011 19:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 917218)
Only this, Rets: :D

Application No:11/11/0296Registration Date:04 Jul 2011Location:LAND AT HOLLINS LANE, ACCRINGTONDevelopment:Full: Erection of 13.8m high Telecommunications mast with two associated equipment cabinets

Case File

Has any one started a petition against it.
Retlaw.

lancsdave 07-07-2011 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 917276)
Has any one started a petition against it.
Retlaw.

Most of the residents up there have signs or posters saying no to the mast. I suspect they may have a petition or at least lodged an objection

Tealeaf 07-07-2011 20:17

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Maybe they should stick a mast on top of the coppice and disguise it as a panopticon.

Gordon Booth 07-07-2011 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 917286)
Maybe they should stick a mast on top of the coppice and disguise it as a panopticon.

They could put a platform on top and use it as one!

cashman 07-07-2011 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 917273)
Some people do have objections
ElectroSensitivity UK - Homepage

I would be amazed if anyone was not aware of that fact.

b-sound 10-07-2011 00:01

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I believe these people are trying their best to prevent such a terrible occurrence, I for one am on side.
Conservation areas should be respected as a place of recreation, not commercialism.



Oak Hill Park Accrington.

wallop79 14-07-2011 22:32

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After talking to a couple of residents of Royds Avenue the other day, they have now put the "Say NO to O2" back in their windows, they thought that this had all been sorted out once, but has now reared its ugly head again, get your reponses to Hyndburn Council Planning Dept Scaitcliffe House, Ormerod St, Acc, or email [email protected] by 26/07/11 to object

wallop79 14-07-2011 22:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by b-sound (Post 917786)
I believe these people are trying their best to prevent such a terrible occurrence, I for one am on side.
Conservation areas should be respected as a place of recreation, not commercialism.


Oak Hill Park Accrington.

Thanks for the above link B-sound I have just signed this online petition, but I will also be writing a very strong letter to HBC tomorrow.

Boeing Guy 15-07-2011 07:41

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Seeing the majority of people in this country have mobile phones, we need masts for coverage. Sad fact but true.
I wonder how many people objecting to this mast have mobile phones?
Before we get into nimbyisms, I have 2 masts within 1/2 mile of where I live. I had no choice, they are for Orange and T mobile and I own a O2 phone...
More information on masts here:
Sitefinder Mobile Phone Base Station Database

wallop79 15-07-2011 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 919050)
Seeing the majority of people in this country have mobile phones, we need masts for coverage. Sad fact but true.
I wonder how many people objecting to this mast have mobile phones?

Yes I have a mobile phone, yes masts are needed, but you are missing the point this is going to be nothing but an eyesore where they plan to put it, this is a conservation area. There are other places out of sight i.e king georges playing fields that this montrosity could be placed. Final note what an insult to the men of the Accrington Pals who's names are proudly displayed on the war memorial in oak hill park just a few hundred yards from the proposed site

Bob Dobson 15-07-2011 08:30

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Yes, we all have mobile phones and want there to be masts, but not in a corporation-owned park whch houses a war memorial. This application would not have been made if the council had said 'No' to the applicant company in the first place. It is tantamount to
giving approval before the application is heard, and the council applying to the council for approval.

Let the responsible officers be asked to explain, and any councillor voting to approve the application be asked to give reasons for doing so.

Boeing Guy 15-07-2011 08:38

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I am not saying that they should put a mast there, just using reason.
So we should not put anything like this near war memorials, but it is okay to stick one on a school?
One of the ones near me is on a School and I am with Margaret R on this.

Unfortunately unless we all stop using these things, we are stuck with it.

Retlaw 15-07-2011 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 919060)
I am not saying that they should put a mast there, just using reason.
So we should not put anything like this near war memorials, but it is okay to stick one on a school?
One of the ones near me is on a School and I am with Margaret R on this.

Unfortunately unless we all stop using these things, we are stuck with it.

All the money spent by O2 & Vodaphone on phone masts so far, had been used more wisely, they could have put a satelite in orbit, then there would be no need for phone masts.
Retlaw.

Boeing Guy 15-07-2011 12:49

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Sorry to say Retlaw, it does not work like that. I have access, through my job, to a handheld satellite phone, its a recent one and not really pocket sized also the costs of call's are a lot more than cell phones.
Also you need line of site for sat phones, that's why deep Africa is great for them, the satellites are positioned over the equator.
Cell phones use different bandwidth and the strength is much weaker.

If the cell phone companies had worked together better then there would be less masts as they could have shared stations. Not forgetting the last governments involvement in selling the 3G band at a very high cost.

Margaret Pilkington 15-07-2011 14:10

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I have a mobile phone in my handbag...switched off and only used very rarely........I mean I have had £20 on it for nearly a year(pay as you go).
I hate mobiles and only have one because my family feel it is a necessary line of contact(how, it is always switched off?)

wallop79 15-07-2011 14:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 919060)
I am not saying that they should put a mast there, just using reason.
So we should not put anything like this near war memorials, but it is okay to stick one on a school?
One of the ones near me is on a School and I am with Margaret R on this.

Unfortunately unless we all stop using these things, we are stuck with it.

No its not ok to put these near schools, they already tried to put one near Hollins school & backed down with the protest, same as it shouldnt be put in a conservation area/park/war memorial area either thats why we have to stand up to these companies then we're not "just stuck with it", there are better areas for them to stick it without offending so many people

Boeing Guy 15-07-2011 14:26

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I am with you on this,but also I am a realist.
We are stuck with cell phones and part of the problem is they need masts that are within range of the mobiles that will use them. Seeing most people who use cell phones live in built up areas means they have to site masts there.
Good luck with your protest

Neil 16-07-2011 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 919145)
No its not ok to put these near schools, they already tried to put one near Hollins school & backed down with the protest, same as it shouldnt be put in a conservation area/park/war memorial area either thats why we have to stand up to these companies then we're not "just stuck with it", there are better areas for them to stick it without offending so many people

So where do you suggest they do put it?
Its ok to keep saying no all the time but if you cant come up with a suitable site I suspect they will win the argument.

I think the mobile phone coverage should be done like the gas and electric transmission with a company controlling all masts which are shared and the phone companies pay to use them. That way you would not need several masts to cover the same area.

wallop79 16-07-2011 17:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 919495)
So where do you suggest they do put it?
Its ok to keep saying no all the time but if you cant come up with a suitable site I suspect they will win the argument.

I think the mobile phone coverage should be done like the gas and electric transmission with a company controlling all masts which are shared and the phone companies pay to use them. That way you would not need several masts to cover the same area.

Neil i'd already mentioned in an earlier post (which you edited today!) that King Georges playing field to me would be an ideal place, there's a vast area to pick from which is away from houses, agree with you about the shared mast theory, good idea

Neil 16-07-2011 18:42

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Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 919514)
Neil i'd already mentioned in an earlier post (which you edited today!) that King Georges playing field to me would be an ideal place, there's a vast area to pick from which is away from houses, agree with you about the shared mast theory, good idea

I only edited your post to fix the end quote, I think [/ was missing, my edit comment said that.

I dont see why its disrespectful to have it near a War Memorial. Where exactly do they want to build it?
If its within the park then yes I disagree with it.

wallop79 16-07-2011 22:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 919545)

I dont see why its disrespectful to have it near a War Memorial. Where exactly do they want to build it?
If its within the park then yes I disagree with it.

The proposed site is right at side of the top gates to the Park at the top of Hollins Lane at 13.8m tall (45 feet) then I think you can understand why no-one wants it there. I know I keep saying this but its a conservation area. Also when I go up in November every year and stand in front of the War Memorial paying my respects, I dont want to see that monstrocity staring back at me.

cashman 16-07-2011 23:00

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would be better still if they just banned sodding mobiles, another benefit from that......the roads would be safer also.

wallop79 16-07-2011 23:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 919604)
would be better still if they just banned sodding mobiles, another benefit from that......the roads would be safer also.

and I'd save money every month too :D:D

cashman 16-07-2011 23:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 919607)
and I'd save money every month too :D:D

there yeh go mate,everyones a winner.:D

Neil 17-07-2011 00:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 919603)
The proposed site is right at side of the top gates to the Park at the top of Hollins Lane at 13.8m tall (45 feet)......

I agree it should not be put in a conservation area. Hyndburn have never appeared to do much if any conservation in our conservation areas and they certainly should not allow a mobile mast in one.

In the time I have living in the Rhyddings conservation area I have seen lots of things happen that should not. To be fair though LCC have recently removed the tarmac from the cobbles and restored the cobbles at the park gates.

dusty mears 19-07-2011 22:14

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the deadline for objections is i think 5pm mon 25 july and many may not know but there's another app in for one further up the rd.cant remember exact loc but same consultation date of 25th ?. Seems hollins lane one's over shadowed other one - no pun intended. Get your objections in !

Retlaw 25-07-2011 20:25

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Don't forget the Phone mast application for the one in Southwood Drive, you need to protest in writing, petitions are no good, it will only count as one objection.
The objections for the one to the rear of Oak Hill Park, expired to day.
It may just be that the council may not have followed the correct procedure, when these applications were made.
Retlaw.

wallop79 29-07-2011 22:13

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Well todays observer 29.07, letters on page 10 : "800 notices of intent were sent to 02, Vodafone, Lancs County Council & Hyndburn Council, 230 letters of objection all signed by local residents, ... also all the residents who wrote individual letters of objection & sent them directly to the Chief Planning Officer", fingers, toes etc crossed that this was enough, fantastic response from us Joe Bloggs I'd say.

katex 08-08-2011 11:05

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Planning Permission was refused:

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

katex 08-08-2011 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 917219)
Dunno about Hollins Lane...there was an application about 2 months ago to stick one up at the Crown ground.


And this one too, Tealeaf:

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

cashman 08-08-2011 13:58

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Splendid news.:)

wallop79 08-08-2011 14:55

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Fantastic news, just goes to show what can happen when people stick together & stand up to these companies, though I think they'll try again before long.

katex 08-08-2011 15:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 921177)
Don't forget the Phone mast application for the one in Southwood Drive, you need to protest in writing, petitions are no good, it will only count as one objection.
Retlaw.

This was refused as well ... not having much luck are they.
Expect they are used to it though.

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1


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