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There is no call for that language, Dave; you should be ashamed of yourself.

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I'll get a moderator to slap my hands :rolleyes::D

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You'll probably have to wait for a while - they're all be slumming it now in that Wetherspoons hole.

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That would explain the sermon of the pits of hell & eternal damnation heaped upon Wetherspoons then. ;) :D

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John, does that in some way excuse him from the normal courtesies?
It seems to be a pretty poor excuse.
I suppose he would much rather the building in the centre of our town, be left to rot. As if we do not have enough eyesores in our town.
He has nothing good to say about the place, and even less to say about the people who live here.
He is the epitome of a carmudgeon.

Isn't that just a bit sad?

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I agree...and what's more Tealeaf should be taken out and publicly flogged!.. the mere fact that this man lives in Church/Wapping is justification in itself. :)

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Those are long words for you, Margaret. How many hours did you spend going through your dictionary and thesaurus to come up with that lot? It's time that would have been better utilised feeding your cat.

Go on - do it now and give us all some peace.

Me-ow, Me-ow,

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Are they really Tealeaf? What is the matter, do you think that because we live north of Watford we have no education?
And can you tell me who died and made you King?

Second thoughts...don't bother!

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Anyway which of those (allegedly) long words didn't you understand?

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Exactly what are you waffling on about now?

This thread is about the impact that a retail branch of Wetherspoons Plc will have upon the economic and social wellbeing of the good people of Accrington.

There are those - such as some in Accy - who suffer from the delusion that the effect will be a positive one. But there are those - like me - who have spent time north and south of Watford and have seen what has happened when Wetherspoons make their ubiquitous presence felt. Like any other national retail chain operation, they are the cancer that destroys the unique identity of towns such as Accy.

You may wish to party today; but when local family owned coffee shops, tenanted pubs and such like pull down the shutters and we go further down that deep, downward economic spiral, then you will rue the day.

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Another wordy but inaccurate reply. The one in Preston completely revitalised the flagging end of Friargate and saved at least two pubs from closure because of the extra trade it generated. The people of Accrington should rise up in protest against their own of course, barricade the doors and pull down the shutters on this monstrosity to save the thriving metropolis that it has become from any encroaching capitalists.

Get back to your oh-so-rare brews of Taylor's Landlord and Jenning's Cumberland Ale, beers which are found so often round here as to be uninteresting to any ale seeker.

One can't help but feel that you've gone native down south.

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Well sorry Ken, whilst n improvement on the building as it was, i cannot see it re-vitalizing accy, whilst we were down town this dinner ish, most of the cafes were well quiet, in fact we went in our usual one n there was 2 people in around 12-50, n a trader had just told us, seems a lot of people about today,also seemed a lot less in the calder this lunchtime as we passed, whilst wetherspoons may suit a good many people, doubt if it will suit other traders.

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Those 8,149 coeliac residents of Hyndburn are partaking of their gluten free menu:D

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There's no doubt that Wetherspoons put pressure on cafe's more than pubs.. any good cafe will serve up a better breakfast than Wetherspoons but some folk would rather eat in what they think are better surroundings.. from past experience I'd say the local cafes will suffer for a couple of months but soon as the locals realise they are likely getting reheated bacon and such at the Spoons they will go back to thier old haunts.
Local cafe's and pubs serving grub cannot compete with Wetherspoons on prices but can compete with quality.. but I do like a Spooners .;)

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Oh I'd never go that far Cashy, I was just using the Preston one as an example of something which has helped other pubs in the area. Once the initial interest has died down then other businesses should recover, just as they do everywhere else when something new opens. I just think that it is good for Accrington on the whole to have attracted a big name, the more the better really.

However, there will be people will go on about the damage to small businesses and then in the same breath complain about the lack of big name shops but it can't work both ways.

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Thats pretty irrelevant to me, theres a lack of smaller retailers in accy these days, never mind big name shops.:rolleyes: n to my mind the new market hall, whist looks ok,is pretty much a disaster imho.

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Myself, can never understand why people go out for breakfast :confused:

For me, fag and a brew, then have to feed the night starvation there and then, not wait to get into town before I eat. Hate deals of bed/breakfast in hotels where you have to go in the restaurant to eat .. could be an hour before I was showered and dressed and, by then, couldn't be bothered. Always ordered in my room if available .. good alarm call too.

Suppose old habits die hard, where there was always a breakfast waiting for me as a child when I got up (no, not the brew and fag .. LOL).

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i'm wi you 100% on that Kate.

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Yeah but you are just pure lazy..some of us get up before teatime!;)

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Cheeky sprogg. Not even rising to that one. :p

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Glad i never said that.:eek::D

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Hahahaha ...pleased to hear you can.

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Had a good evening in the new commercial.On our drinks by alphabet thing we got to letter ' I '. 8 drinks i think,long way to go.Finlander grapefruit vodka is nice by the way.Has i thought accy is the very place where wethers drinks are slightly more expensive than the pubs,nice place though.saw first person get thrown out around 9 o'clock..back for more food/drink antics tomorrow with a few friends joining us. Had food also btw,average as usual !!!. Toilets in there are fairly near to the coppice :D

oh cashy,its £1.65 a coke tee hee

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You know damn well what I was doing....answering another of your increasingly insulting posts.
Why do you care? OK, so you might make visits back to the town, but the local economy isn't really the top of this agenda.

I suffer from no delusions about what Wetherspoons can do........and the local tenanted public houses are already being boarded up and converted into large family homes(The Adelphi).......the good local coffee houses will survive because a certain level of competition is healthy......after all, you are too discriminating to go for coffee or anything else in Wetherspoons one one of your visits to the town...and will probably drink yours in Coffee Beanz.

You should stay off the alcohol anyway, your jaundice is deepening...your liver must be struggling to cope.

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which is what i said spigs, perhaps you should be drinking it, or visit specsavers?:D

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I know it doesn't excuse it Margaret, but goes a long way to explaining it:D

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For myself Kate it's a nice cooked breakfast at Rishton Towers most mornings but on occasion it's very nice to mosey into town and let someone else do it, particularly following a heavy night's ale research.

I'm just interested to know how much your servants were paid as a child....

;)

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Shushhhh Ken your reminding me of my days on the road, when the first call was always the nearest greasy spoon for a full English and a big mug of tea:D

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:D Nothing like that, Ken, was lucky to have my Gran living with us at the time whilst both my parents went out to work in the mills. When she passed away, my mother gave up work to look after the needs of the family.

Looking back and reading Margaret P's description of the poverty she suffered, I do consider that we were, indeed, very rich.

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Regrettably Marg, the pub trade is suffering badly and not because of the easy excuse that the government is crippling them with taxes. The ingenious idea of slotting in a new layer of management between taverns and breweries that would somehow make pubs run smoother has been a financial disaster and that is where the real damage has been done.

Wetherspoons, free houses and other eateries seem to be doing OK, that really should send a message out to all the breweries as to where they've gone so spectacularly wrong and why so many of their pubs are failing.

The only government decision I personally would question is the smoking ban which was a little heavy-handed and the theory that armies of non-smokers would flock to the pubs as a result of it has been unequivocably proved wrong.

However, if other pubs fail as a result of Wetherspoons then it probably won't be the fault of the tenants.

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I think any pub that goes to the wall, will not be as a direct result of Wetherspoons coming to town....as you said the pub trade was/is dying on its uppers long before Wetherspoons hit town.
I think the Calder will need to look to its' laurels, as for other coffee houses.........I don't really think Wetherspoons is going to take much trade from Imposta...or Costa Coffee...their clientele are different.

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Went into Wetherspoons last night. After a couple we decided to have a walk to the railway and nags, two pubs that i haven't been in for years. So that's a couple of pubs which had two extra people in that wouldn't normally be in, and in each pub we had a couple of drinks each. You never know more people might do a similar thing and visit other pubs in the area. Lets hope so.

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Someone was telling me the other week that you have to pay to get in The Bridge now....whats all that about?

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It’s been fascinating to watch spoons come together over the weeks and also to nip in at doors open. Great also to see that we managed to get Wetherspoons to include a lovely picture of local lass Beryl Ingham and her husband George Formby which is a fantastic tribute to her and nice to have it on the map now thanks to them. TA.

What a great job they have done with the building and we loved the outside bit with its all weather grass. I joked with one lad we should fetch the bowls down one time for a lark. A good choice of ale is on offer for those who like the real stuff and we found it’s been spot on every time. Let’s hope the other local pubs respond positively to the new competition they have.

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I was in Spoons on Saturday night and it was packed to the rafters. I've never seen one pub so busy for that length of time.

This could kick-start Accrington's night life on a Saturday night before 11pm.

Normally the town would be dead on a Saturday night.

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Excuse me for being a bit thick Phil (its 25 years since I had a drink in accy town centre) but which establishment is Spoons

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Wetherspoons John.

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Um ya Margaret the old brain cells are quite working this morning doh:o:o:o

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I'll give Wetherspoons credit for marketing ... the pub will very rarely be referred to as The Commercial .. most people will always refer to it as 'Wetherspoons'.

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Went in on Saturday afternoon with a fellow councillor and we were very impressed with everything, from the decor to the choice of ales on offer. The beer garden is also very well renovated and it is impossible to forget that you are in a Lancashire town surrounded by the brickwork of back alleyways and other shops.

Top marks, general consensus is that it's a very very good thing and from what I saw I heartily agree.

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Out on the razz with Peter were ya Ken:rolleyes::D

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I am going to have a look in this week, were meant to go last Friday but t'other half wasnt feeling well.
Will let you know how my hangover was! ;)

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its ok saying the building work looks good but what are the things like you go in there for ?
Beer prices and food prices soft drink prices?

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I'd probably go in to use the toilet:rolleyes: :D

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oh so thats where you go when its your round:p

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Kronenbourg is 20p more than the Queens. Coke is expensive at £1.60 a half pint but pay another 20p and you get a full pint.
Four of us went in for a meal at Monday lunchtime. Four meals (one was a starter), one Kronenbourg, two grapefruit and soda and a large coke. The food was quite good and the total cost was pence over £16. Not bad as far as we were concerned. Also noticed plenty of choice on local draft
beers.
The place was pretty full and that was after 1.00 pm.

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I paid £1-85 fer pint of coke as they told me half-£1-65. last week.

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To be quite honest you'll have to explain that mick, its yonks since I've been in a pub:D:D:p

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just curious , do you have to pay for your food when you order it or at the end of the meal ?

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at a guess having seen the clientele when yeh order.:D

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It's before. You're entrapped. Fork out 10 quid and get two plate loads of microwaved slops and thats it, mate. No comeback.

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thought so , goes someway to validate Tealeaf's view of the place ;)

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aint just Ts view, but if it makes em happy,leave em to it.;)

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Pay as you order - same in quite a few places in Accrington and other towns. Imposta, Annie's, Costa, the Market Hall cafes and of course McD and the like.

Won't argue for 5p Cashy, could well have been £1.65 & £1.85:) I was only really concerned with the Kronenbourg and quite happy to pay extra on that as it is a long walk to the Queen's from the town centre:D

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What amazes me about T is he knows so much about Wetherspoons, yet he says he's never been in, funny that:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:;)

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there are some people that it won't suit....but there are some who will find it fits the bill in certain circumstances........Having a hot drink while waiting for an evening bus........there is nowhere open to get refreshments in Accrington Town centre if you happen to be there after 6pm.

Tealeaf doesn't like the chain, he has said so, many times...but he won't be press ganged into the place.....and for those who like it then what is the problem?
Live and let live.
If Wetherspoons provide a decent service then they will survive...if they don't then they won't stay........and that fine building will probably fall into ruin.

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From my dictionary of of Lancashire English- "gradely - really good (see also 'belter', 'blinder' and 'purler')"

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Wrong,if yeh read the thread hes been in many n formed that opinion about the chain,which hes well entitled.;)

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i like the one in grangemouth ... it has a lovely chandelier and the organ pipes from when it was a church ...

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Went past a lunchtime seemed to be plenty in, was also going to call in the research centre, but they're knocking the place to pieces

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Popped down to Accrington at lunchtime, the town looked lovely, just a pity The Post Office Arcade seems to be struggling

Will put some photos in The Gallery later

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Exactamento,Thats wot I sed.:mosher::D:D

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i went into the weatherspoons in morcambe today & the food was good & reasonably priced (although i wasn't paying) but the thing that gets me is that the toilets are upstairs .....the friends we were with said that all the toilets in a weatherspoons seem to be upstairs ........can someone please tell me if the accy one is the same.

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Yeah Accy Wetherspoons toilets upstairs disabled and baby change downstairs near exit to beer garden

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The Commercial gets my vote. I ordered the roast beef and kinda half expected thinly sliced shoe leather but was pleasantly surprised to receive several reasonably thick slices of what tasted like real roast beef. The price was right and the service very good.

They've done a brilliant job on the Beer garden at the rear. very pleasant.

All in all I would recommend it for a quick economic meal. :)

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When in accy Wetherspoons its less of a walk to just go and use the toilets in the Calder instead :laugh8:

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Good grief Spigs they must be one hell of a flight of stairs in Wetherspoons:rolleyes::D

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Things must have improved since I had a meal there a few years ago. My meal was lukewarm.

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Thanks for mentioning the downstairs disabled loo. If I go there I will remember to take a walking stick and limp.

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Just use it anyway.

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All places are meant to have disabled toilet.Wetherspoons usually have a key for disabled toilets,to be asked for though.
Bus from our manchester night out arrived accy at midnight,so i went in for a last drink,really not many in there at that time,it was very chilled ;)
i was so ermmm - tipsy ,that i gave the girl behind the bar a £2 tip !! whats that all about ? :confused:

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I took Ma into the Wetherspoons at Eastbourne........I think their disabled toilet used the RADAR key.....Ma has one of these but I still had to ask as she had left it back at the hotel room...along with her purse(a neat trick of hers....only kidding Ma):)

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I thought that was a woman thing anyway Margaret:D:D:D

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We would have been washing up if I had forgotten mine too.........No, I always go out prepared.

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If you go out prepared, then why on earth would you wish to visit a Wetherspoons? Surely such establishments are the Last Chance Saloon..the final refuge of scoundrels, drunkards, junk food addicts and those of a similar ilk...no respectable person would be seen dead in one of these places.

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Obviously then, according to your rules, I am not a respectable person...and therefore neither is my elderly disabled mother.

Not that it is any of your business, but my elderly mother needed to use a toilet.......we went in so that she could avail herself of their facilities, while we were there we both had a coffee.......feeling that if we used their toilets then we should make a purchase.

Tealeaf you are getting tedious with your unwarranted criticism of this chain. You have made your views perfectly clear, so why do you have to keep harping on about them?

I am just glad there is somewhere in Accrington where I can be sure that I will not bump into you.

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I'm quite sure your mum is both a respectable and a lovely person...so why do you have to drag her round such dives?

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thanks tealeaf ... im no drunkard .. dont drink alcohol, junk food - when you get a half a roast chicken spuds and veg ... is that what you call junk?, scoundrel ... moi? im accywebs little angel, and according to the spugster im very respectable ...

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Didn't you read my post? If you had, then you quite clearly would not be asking that question.
Just refresh your memory.
My elderly mother(in a wheel chair) needed to use the toilet...we went in so that she could use their facilities. We felt it would be churlish to use the toilet without making a purchase...so we had coffee!

Later in the week we went back and we had food and a drink...at my mothers request

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Let me just correct you. Junk food is a five minute microwaved half chicken (with prepacked artificial browning and flavouring), 60 sec spuds and 45 sec green veg all on a 900 watt industrial microwave, standard Wetherspoons fitting.

Yeah, that's junk.

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yer losing the plot mate, how can yeh correct a "Woman":confused:

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I suspect his answer will be with a whip and a chair( like lion taming).

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Dunno Cashy...it's a bit like raising the dead or going faster than the speed of light...science tells us it can't be done. Anyway, I'm off down the pub before last call.

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Somewhat confused - you have stated that you have visited a Wetherspoons 40 or 50 times and yet on this thread you have heaped scorn and ridicule on anyone else who enters the one in Accrington.
Did it really take 40 or 50 visits for you to decide that you do not like them, or perhaps it is an element of masochism in your psyche?

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or perhaps n element of humour.

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Perhaps he exaggerates a lot.

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Just how long have you and Mrs Tealeaf been married:rolleyes:

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Ya I bet he's been told a million times not to exaggerate:D

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John...do you mean to tell us there is a Mrs Tealeaf?!:eek:

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Poor woman if there is!!! :D

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Well, there ain't no Mrs and as of last week their ain't no girlfriend, either. I don't really ask much of the latter but I do expect my ironing to be done right. What could be simpler? I'd take a dozen assorted shirts, jocks and socks round to her place sunday afternoon and tell her to get 'em sorted while I went down the pub and four hours later was it done? No...I've never seen such a mess in the shirt creases in all my life. Being a patient and open-minded man I tried three times to explain what was needed but did she listen? No way. Moan Moan Moan...she had to go.

So I'll have a break just for a week or so before I get another one as I'm now having to fork out a tenner for seven shirts round the local chinky dry cleaners. It's absolutely outrageous.

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wetherspoons foods not that bad, keds meals are ok, better than the usually sausage,chips and beans other places ofer them.

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The Wetherspoons Accrington,
THE COMMERCIAL HOTEL
looks beautiful on the outside!.

But will it last?. Wetherspoons Nelson closed down a few years ago.

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Been in today, really nicely fitted out, money well spent, shame they can't get food orders right though! Mine, and the folk on the 2 tables next to me were incorrect when they food arrived, problem is in the kitchen not the staff who take the orders as the receipts are correct. I like the photos and pictures ( even one of our very own David Lloyd in there), decor is lovely and toilets immaculate, will be giving it another chance once it calms down a bit!

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You seemed to have missed a couple of zz Tealeaf;)

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Looks like he has been subjected to a gagging order

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Quite an intriguing post. Has he been censored by Neil or Mick? If so, I would've thought the whole post would have been removed. Has he been stricken by a sudden attack of conscience and decided to forsake his old ways by adopting a new persona of sweetness and light? Knowing Mr T, I doubt it. ;) Has he perhaps been abducted by aliens? :eek:

I think we should be told!

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If that happened Wyn I'd start believing in conspiracy theories:D