Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

Just been informed that as far as the collector is aware collections for clinical waste will be stopped september and people will be expected to put their clinical waste in the black wheelie bin.

I would have expected this stupidity from our last lot in power infact they suggested it and it met strong opposition so the plan was scrapped.

Someone down the street from me puts out 3 large bags each week which would over a 2 week period fill her wheelie bin plus some leaving no room for her normal waste.I only use 1 large bag a week and that would take up room that is needed for my normal waste

Also theres the hygiene issue as unlike childrens nappies some medical conditions such as people with a stoma cant help but bleed when cleaning so theres blood on these items as well .

what next i wonder .Giving people with medical conditions a shovel and telling them to bury it in the garden liek a dog :rolleyes:

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No TEN would be better....... words fail me, sick of this government....

All we seem to be doing is taking steps back all the time......

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from what i can gather this is a council decision not government

i havnt had a letter yet but to be fair i never get letters notifying me of changes to the system its kinda hit and miss if you get a letter or not.

Hopefully the decision isnt yet final :rolleyes:

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yeah it is im sorry to say, they told the binman in a meeting last Thursday they are doing it but according to sita (who own the tip) there rules state all clinical waste has to be on the tip by 2.00pm at the latest, to give them enough time to cover it enough for there regulations.

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its no good blaming sita that wont wash

sita dont take clinical waste at their tips or waste recycling center as they like to be called

collections have been missed in the past and the sita run tips refuse point blank to accept clinical waste as they are not set up for it.This includes whinny hill,haslingden and stacksteads

it is supposed to go to an incinerator hence it been collected seperatly from household waste

ken moss has come up with plenty of budget cutting ideas which dont seem to have been listened to and im pretty sure this disgrace wasnt on his list

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Maybe it would be worth contacting your councillor...or even getting in touch with Ken Moss.
I am pretty sure they will help you out if they can.

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Thats not all thats been changed, previously if you rang the council about garden waste it would be collected separately, now we are told to leave it out when they do bin collections, it was just put in the wagon like household waste.
Retlaw.

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yup but what a fuss is kicked up if threes so much as a bit of what they class as non garden waste in your green bin.It all ends up in the same pile unless the bin wagon magically turns teh gras sinto gold while its driven:rolleyes:

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the need for this service can be embarrassing and not something people want to share so if you dont feel comfortable posting you need it but want the service to continue then hopefully enough phone calls to local councilors will do the trick.

Is this New New Labor - screw the sick they wont mind or with a bit of luck wont last long enough to complain :confused:

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Ho Hum

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When you hear a little more about this, Accyman, and it definitely is going to happen, please let us know as we will back you to the hilt on this .. yes, can speak for other Accywebbers .. we are a good lot really on here. x

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slogan -

we aint taking no crap ( neither are HBC)

this could be a ploy to drum up extra cash because you can get fined for leaving bin bags out that dont fit in your bin.

hopefully it wont come into effect because although it would cause me problems there are people who put out 3 times as much as i do and they will be totally screwed.If anything there should be a bin provided for people with clinical waste so that dogs and cats dont rip the sacks open wanting to sniff the contents and spew them all over the road.Fortnightly collections would be no good either as no one wants stale crap ,urine or both hanging around their home for 2 weeks.

Dread to think how this will effect care homes if it comes into effect.Thats a lot of poop and pee to be stamping down into wheelie bins to make it fit :eek:

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easy tiger your lot tried this stunt 2 years ago maybe 3 ;)

disappointing the new regime is pulling the same stunt though

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This is nothing to do with the government?.. when a council is forced by the government to make massive cuts then this sort of thing will happen..what better way is there when creating unemployment and cutting services than to let local councils take the flack?
It's unbelievable that normal well educated people can't see what is happening.

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government may force cuts mancie but they dont force what is cut by the council.

i despise cameron and his lot but i simply cant lay the blame for this at their door.

i can blame them for forcing harsh cuts in budget but i cant blame them for what decisions are made my local councilors from another party.

i know nappies are disposed of in normal bins but depending on why a person needs clinical waste collections depends on what sort of nasties are about

like i have already said quite a lot of blood is about in my waste and although i dont have aids or anything nasty someone else could

theres a reason why it went to an incinerator and childrens nappies dont. So unless one of the councilors is an expert in disease control im curious as to how they decided this waste should go to landfill and not an incinerator.

also if it goes to landfill lets hope a seagul dosnt pick something up and drop it on your car lol :eek:

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Thank you for presuming on my behalf, in this case however, I totally agree!
;)

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Just can't understand what there is to gain and the savings would be negligible, it wasn't a good idea 2 years ago and it hasn't changed, they separate ordinary waste from clinical waste in hospitals for a reason, the same reason should apply even more so in the outside community

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Looking at this:-

http://www.nacp.gov.pk/introduction/...-biohazard.pdf

I can't see how they can even contemplate changing.
:confused:

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Maybe you should Email that to HBC Less, I don't think anybody monitors accy web now;)

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He may not tell us much these days, but I'm sure Ken still visits now and then, (a bit like Royalty dropping in for tea!:D).

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Ya funny that ain't it:D

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just rang HBC and asked for environmental

i was redirected to customer services and i explained i wanted to speak to someone in charge of environmental

This request was refused and i was told that they may be able to help.

I explained that i wanted to discuss the clinical waste issue and asked if what i heard was true and was informed that it was.

I was told to read the letter that we all got so i pointed out that no one i knew had received the letter and then it got changed to i should read the letter that was been sent out in a few weeks.I mentioned concern over hygiene but this was quickly ignored and was again told to go read a letter that wont be sent out for another few weeks yet:confused:

I then asked if the decision was final and i was told that it was so basically this has all gone through and is done and dusted and to hell with what anyone else thinks i guess.

Hard to even put a complaint in when your not even allowed to speak to the department in charge of it :rolleyes:

The odd thing is it wasn't too long ago that the labor party fought alongside the people of Accrington tooth and nail when the toilets on peel street were been shut.Im beginning to think this support was only given as it was an opportunity to take a swipe at PB.

If only my clinical waste was somehow connected to tory policy i maybe at least able to discuss this with someone who is actually in the environmental department and not a customer service person god knows where in the country in a call center :rolleyes:

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I just feel that a decision like this would not be made without some sort of alternative arrangement .. e.g. larger bin offered or something ??

There again ........

Just seen your last post Accyman .. hope you can get a copy of the notification.

Can only find this at the moment:

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...lCollMar08.pdf

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i forgot to add that i was told you "MAY" qualify for an extra bin so how much does a bin cost these days

god i hope they dont expect us to wash out colostomy bags to make them fit in the wheelie bin :eek:

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That is a horrendous prospect:eek:
I hope this info is useful
Colostomy Bags

Flushable pouch inserts (inner pouch): These inserts are placed in the pouch before use. When the pouch is full you remove the insert from the bag and flush it away. It is completely biodegradable and works in all toilets.

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in hospitals you put these items in a separate bin which holds yellow bags

what you don't do is throw them in the bin with your grape pips,chocolate wrappers etc .


The thing is these people in charge seem to think clinical waste is no different from childrens nappies.

Im pretty open regarding my condition and even make crass jokes about it but even i am beginning to feel awkward ringing up and discussing this matter with strangers so god knows how someone who isnt so comfortable with what they have will cope with the cold brush off.There are people out there with worse conditions than myself or care for people with much worse conditions .These things are life changing and the last thing people need to be doing is ringing up and having to justify themselves and their conditions

I cant speak for everyone but personally i dont want a whiff of stale crap up my nostrils each time i open my wheelie bin especially in summer.2 weeks this will be sitting there festering and attracting god knows what to check out the stench.Its not as though the plastic bags used to put these items in are air tight they are in my case just ordinary unscented plastic nappy sacks that you tie up with knot

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there are a few designs out there all with their downsides/upsides and each person finds what they are comfortable with.God forbid you blocked a toilet up with one now that would be embarrassing lol.

maybe we should all just wear one large black binliner a week if times are getting so difficult for HBC :rolleyes:

or water proof pants and bicycle clips for the incontinent :confused:

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Go & dump a few of your waste bags in Accy town hall in protest, this is despicable that a council can make a decision like this, without first having the decency of discussing this with the people it first hand affects, I put my baby's Nappies in the bin obv there's nowhere else to put them, but to ask people to put medical/clinical waste into normal household refuge collections must surely be breaking some sort of environmental laws otherwise why has it been incinerated in the past? Behind u all the way mate, let us know more when u get the mysterious letter, and i'll write a complaint letter to HBC.

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Maybe you could follow the example of the residents of Hyndburn Homes and the lock fiasco, get in touch with the Observer, I'm sure Kate, the Ossy Reporter would be very interested, and maybe you could get a result like we did accyman

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nothings changed much in the council

some people have got letters and some have not

apparently you can request a slightly larger bin but this still wont accommodate 2 weeks waste

Also blood soaked swabs ,urine and feces festering for two weeks aint a nice thought

The council have however kindly suggested that we buy our own extra bags to double wrap clinical waste so bang goes their been green policy unless they are selling clinical waste as fertilizer ?

Pitty theres no input from the party in control seen as leading up to the election they had plenty to say and what is supposedly stopping them now didnt stop them then :rolleyes:

There is also a mention that any concerns you should ring up a particular person at the waste collection department but as i found out they will point blank refuse to transfer you and put you through to the call center.

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i find this so disgusting its beyond belief, on bin day were i live you can see such an amount of these bags kept seperate from "normal" waste which is needed. im backing all people who have to have the service taken away from them..............please please h/h leave them some dignity!!!

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This is now on the LT website Clinical waste collections axed in Hyndburn (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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A special collection for 55 homes may be expensive but surely it is also essential?
It's hard to believe the council can even attempt to justify this.

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I agree with you but I am not sure the local council should pay for all these collections though. I also think its bad for some of this waste to be put in the grey bin. I would not like to be a bin man when the machine dumps it into the wagon after 2 weeks.

Maybe the NHS should pay if its a medical condition.

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It said something in the article about the rules on clinical waste having been changed.
I think I would be finding out how they had changed and if other local authorities were now dealing with clinical waste in the way that HBC is doing.
I wonder if clinical waste rules have changed for local hospitals too. Just a thought.

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Canterbury council are also implementing the policy of allowing soiled adult and childrens nappies to be disposed of in household waste bins and go to landfill...as long as these items are not infectious..

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this council got pretty upset and quite vocal when people were denied a place to pee and poop 2 days a week yet feel it ok to pull a stunt like this .I suppose people should be thankful they didn't keep the toilets shut and had them pee and poop into a black wheelie bin outside on peel street.

ok im taking the urine a little there but how can a party that was so vocal against toilets been closed 2 days a week not even a year ago saying teh savings were minimal have the gaul to then pull this stunt.

Theres also the hygiene issue as not only would i not like to be a bin man smelling 2 weeks worth of rotting urine,feces and blood but god knows what nasties are lurking in there after 2 weeks.Mind you as we all know double bagging things makes them sterile and this is why we dont have any dissease in the world:rolleyes: ( sarcasm btw)

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I can answer that in 2 words

Vote Winning

The 55 votes of those affected must not be important.
I met a Councillor who is a member of this site this morning, maybe I should have brought the subject up.

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i rang up today and asked that should i have a bout of diarrhea and found myself unable to fit all the waste ,cleaning pads etc into the bin would i be fined for leaving an extra bag out at the side of my bin.I was informed that they would have to send out an inspector to assess the situation

so there you have it HBC now has a turd inspector it seems :eek:

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I thought most councils had applied for the powers to root through "shi-ite" to nick villains on the estates ? :rolleyes:

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Yup and out of those 55 some will be pretty damn ill and unable to make a fuss so screw em i guess.Easy target group not protected by race,sexual discrimination or faith issues and not a pleasant discussion topic to have to make phone calls about in fact its quite embarrassing/awkward having to discuss your pooping habits with a total stranger ;)

I rarely if at all talk about my condition on here but those who i have met know about it as its either explain why i make fart noises or have people think im a dirty swine who just farts in front of people for fun lol

Having the need for this service is bad enough but having to justify your need and explain your illness and contents of your items is degrading and embarrassing

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All other East Lancashire councils still offer this service .
So no one can come up with the reason that HBC is getting into line with other local councils , a reason often given to add justifiation to the council's increase in cemetery costs .

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The threads been running long enough and members who are councillors still frequent the site, but looks like they have declined to get involved or justified this action, this might not effect that many people but its just as crass as closing the public loos two days a week was.

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Seems a very fair comparison JCB

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I suspect others will follow if they think they can get away with it. HBC must be path finders in finding ways to save money.

First the death tax and now bins full of disgusting body fluids.

They can blame the death tax on tories keeping the cost to low but this is all down to the new administration

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The council tell you urine's good in the compost bin, in order to break it down more quickly, and make a rich loam.

Perhaps the fifty five residents should bag up their waste, take it to Scaitcliffe House, and offer it as a filling for next year's flower towers.

A C C R I N G T O N - Floral Market Town & full of sh-it.

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Have you tried going to Scaithcliffe recently? Parking is terrible, I dont know who decided to use that building but parking is terrible with no visitor space or there is never any available when I go.

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Accyman book an appointment with Graham Jones, he's been very good helping me with my CSA case in the past, are you on Facebook? Maybe you could start a group on there. I will be writing a letter of complaint to HBC this week, but I will havea look tomorrow on net about the law changing as to why clinical waste doesn't need to be separated anymore. What are the hospitals going be doing with all their clinical waste if it doesn't need to be incinerated anymore? Also what are the binmen/women saying about this surely it is more of a hazard to them, or are HBC going to be kitting them out in biohazard suits?!

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Hospitals pay to have their clinical waste incinerated.
When I worked for the NHS anything that was contaminated by bodily fluids(blood, pus, urine, feaces, vomitus etc) was deemed clinical waste.
I Googled last night to see if I could find anything relating to domestically generated clinical waste, and to see what regulations there were.......all that I managed to find out was that Canterbury are implementing the same policy as HBC.
I would not like to be one of the refuse operators dealing with such waste.......there has to be some risk involved.......you only need for something sharp to have perforated the plastic bag(double bagged or not) and there is a risk to the operative.

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They're not as daft as we think they are:rolleyes:

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Just rung the Environment Agency to be told that if someone produces clinical waste in their own home it is classed as domestic waste, which of course is dealt with by your local council, if say a district nurse attends your home & produces any clinical waste they have to take it with them & dispose of it accordingly, places like dentists, doctors, hospitals, have to have permits to dispose of clinical waste (but we know that anyway) so it looks like a phone call to HBC to ask them just what law has changed, an 'official law' or a HBC made up law.

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Yes they are, there own staff and visitors cant get parked.

I think HBC is split over 4 sites which is completely stupid as staff appear to wander around between sites for meetings etc. They should be based in one building, the globe would have been perfect in the Council of the time had thought about it.

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

well theres 9 offices going begging across the road from me ... ok in rossendale but our postal address is accrington ... it does have 50 car parking spaces .. and the spice rooms carpark is next door ...:D:D:D

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

Neil at one time it was split of numerous sites never mind four, in comparison 4s a blessing

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and Neil could get a brew at your place when on official business :D:D

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Rang HBC earlier was passed to an environmental officer who said they had been told about the changes in a meeting this morning. When I questioned what the law was that had been changed she passed the buck & told me to ask for Raygan (this is how she pronounced it) Thompson or Steve Riley, she tried to put my call back to switchboard which failed. I rang env. health again & asked 2 speak to one of these fellas to be told I need to ring , which I did to be told the inspectors aren't office based, what was the query was, explained I wanted to know what law had been changed & why the people this affects were not consulted, ok we normally try to ring back within 2 working days of enquiry, but one of them might ring you tomorrow, watch this space

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Well this thread as been running for 8 days now and this is the57th post, strange that none of our members who are elected to serve the public and who were very vociferous prior to the May elections haven't bothered to say a word as yet;)

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Just had a call from lady at HBC, I asked what the law was that had been changed, as per Miles Parkinsons quote in Lancs Telegraph, she said its not a law as such, its just the classification, as pads & dressings are not classed as hazardous waste ( !!! ) they can be put into normal refuge collections, when I said I have a baby & I know how bad the bin can smell after double bagging or even treble bagging nappies I asked whether any thought had been given to doing a weekly bin collection for these people, she said no, but they can ring up & request an additional bin. So people can ring up they will then be sent an application form, is it really going to be that simple, Accyman you will have to let us know.

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Won't two smelly bins just smell twice as much as one? Especialy after 2 weeks in the sun!
That's not the answer.

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I'm suprised they haven't told you to sort through it.

Separating out what's recycable.

Blood.

Plastic.

Crap.

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No it's not the answer, one thing I'm wondering, how many people at the Town Hall now spend their time just fobbing off these customers?

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See I wasn't wrong our Labour throng are still alive and kick the previous administration at every opportunity, maybe you'd now like to address accymans concerns about the proposed scrapping of clinical waste disposal, the thread he started on the issue must just have skipped your attention Ken;)




(edit - I have moved this post and several others from another thread to keep the discussion in one place. That is why Kens post quoted above is not in this thread - Neil

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so are yeh saying less than 60 don't matter? its ruddy scandalous n fer the first time in me life i agree wi P.B.:(

Re: Free grit for all!
 

Not at all Cashy, but it's one of those arguments which has the potential to be blown out of all proportion when no one is actually losing out on anything. A full discussion about it will be had on Thursday night at the Council meeting but this is a very cheap political point scoring exercise which relies on the public not being fully informed about what it actually means.

No one is going likely lose out on any amenity by scrapping clinical waste collections.

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sorry disagree, if so few people involved to my mind it would be neither difficult or costly fer Labour to consult wi those poor sods, n if yer correct and can demonstrate to em, that would kill any political point scoring. knowing one of em meself i doubt if yeh could.:rolleyes:

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As far as I am aware from discussions I had some months ago with the head of the Waste Department, staff need to be taken off other duties in order to collect 'clinical' waste from a relatively small number of residents. This waste has recently been reclassified and can now be disposed of harmlessly along with other household waste, hence it frees up members of HBC staff to work on other things and save both time and money.

There is no council conspiracy to deprive the minority of a vital service although that is not what some people would have you believe. Further answers to this will be given on Thursday night by people right at the heart of it but it's not the major scandal that it's being publicised as.

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its alright ken .. im not in hyndburn borough .. but im in hyndburns constituency ... thing is my labour party membership is up for renewal soon ... and im actually thinking for the first time since the age of 21 (my membership was paid for me for the first 5 years) that i will cancel the membership ... as far as im concerned .. the clinical waste should be taken away at least weekly .. preferably it should go daily ... how would you like to open your bin and have the smell of .10 day old .... (you know what i mean) greet you when you putting your rubbish in ...

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Exactly head of waste department not the ruddy folk it affects, that says it all to me,

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I take your point Jen, although to be honest I'm not the man to give you the best answers as it isn't something that I personally have gone into in any depth. The clinical waste items that I understand have been declassified are things such as bandages and gloves, I would have to leave it to someone better informed to answer your query.

Thursday night is your best bet.

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It wasn't actually what I went to speak to them about, it just happened to crop up as an area where savings may be made in the future and it certainly wouldn't have been down to me to make that decision in any case.

I can't give a definitive answer to everything but I will always endeavour to point people in the right direction.

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Never thought it was down to you Ken, thats why i posted that, but did have yeh down as a fair minded guy, silly me.

Re: Free grit for all!
 

Ken i have rang up repeatedly as have others and been given a different tale each time.Any confusion about what is what is down to departments and people effected not been given information.The leaflet that i should have received is vague at best.This seems to have been pushed through very quickly and none of the departments told what is going on so they dont have a clue what to tell us.

Other councils may not have a clinical waste service but the majority of councils have now switched back to weekly collections so 1 bin does not have to last 14 days .

One time i am told an inspector will have to come and see how i manage my waste the next i am told i will automatically get an extra bin.Either way 14 days is a long time to have crap,blood soaked swabs and urine soaked pads festering in a bin especially adult portions and i for one am not looking forward to day 13 when i have to shove down hard on it to make it fit with the lid shut as to regulation.

Would the council remove wheelchair ramps from all its buildings because only a handful of people use them ?

As i said in the thread i started about this matter you came up with some good ideas to save money but this certainly wasnt on the list.

Its all well and good having a meeting about it but the majority of the people effected are in no condition to get there in fact some are incapable of writing yet alone travel anywhere.We have bigger issues at hand than to be concerned about having to protest about having our bodily waste taken away in a dignified manner.

Without seeing a list of people who need clinical waste collection i will have to take the councils word that it is only 35 people in the whole of hyndburn that have a medical condition like mine or worse but it seems extreemly low considering how many people i come into contact with at hospital and how busy my surgeon/ specialist is with my condition alone at the clinic he holds in accrington for the people of accrington,clayton , great harwood, baxenden etc.

I also rang the district nurses who had no idea this was happening and were also appalled by the decision as poop, blood, urine etc falls under clinical waste as far as they are concerned.

thankyou though for commenting on the issue. I was rather miffed at the lack of input on my thread considering how many labor folk frequent this forum.

Although i disagree strongly with what you have said at least you said something :)

Re: Free grit for all!
 

ribble valley clinical waste


Can i ask why ribble valley's definition of clinical waste differs from Hyndburns.

Seriously joking aside one dodgy curry and my grey bin aint going to be a picnic for the binmen to empty :eek:

Re: Free grit for all!
 

Does this stopping clinical waste collection also apply to nursing and care Homes as they will have a lot more waste than a normal home ?

Re: Free grit for all!
 

As businesses they will pay to have there waste removed and some may not even use HBC as there waste contractor.

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

I thinks its a little unfair to quiz Ken on this subject as its not his area of expertise.

Reading this HBC document Councillor Munsif Dad has the portfolio for waste management and waste collection so those concerned would be better off contacting him. Here is a link to his HBC page with his email and phone number Councillors - Munsif Dad

Re: Free grit for all!
 

Ken its no good jumping through hoops now, your not the only Labour Councillor who comes on this forum, are they using you as the fall guy, the thread started by accyman was started ages ago, during which time other councillors WERE definitely on the site and hadn't the balls to answer accymans complaints, I just think its very sad that the first time you post on herefor a while is just to have a dig at the previous administration and not tackle an issue, which is of concern to, although only a small number of residents, the people who this effects

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

Um Councillor Dad isn't a member on here if I remember correctly, Ken Moss is, and has, in the past, never felt shy in having a say on anything or everything expertise or no expertise

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

not really quizzing ken as he is as miss informed as the rest of us on this matter if he has been told the changes only effect rubber gloves and bandages.

when this is voted on are the councilors actually fully informed on what the changes include because it seems every time someone speaks about it the facts are totally different.

Do any of the people voting on it suffer a condition that requires this service or have any experience at all in dealing with clinical waste or are they just assuming its just the same as a childs nappy because that assumption would be wrong.

If it pleases the council i can muster together 4 days output for Thursday and hand deliver it to the meeting and let them have a good sniff and consider if they would like 14 days worth in their bin and im a light user or I could ask for the waste from the woman down the road if a larger quantity is required.

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

I have no idea if Cllr Dad is a member or not but he should be the man in the know so it makes sense to ask him the questions directly.

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

just checked and questions have to be submitted 5 days prior to the meeting by members of the public.

its a pitty that during the many phonecalls i made no one could tell me who put this issue forward and that now its too late to ask a question although i did have more than one

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

Very convenient that ain't it accyman

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well if its a long standing rule then i guess it just plain sucks but considering sunday was the last day to get a question in i still wouldn't have made the deadline

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

Seems to me that 5 days is the required time to think of bullshine answers to real questions.:rolleyes:

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

It was no different under Peter's rule John, let's not intimate that Labour is dodging a bullet.

The five day rule is sometimes inconvenient if a matter comes up at the eleventh hour but written answers to queries can be requested at any time and I would encourage residents to do so if they have burning questions.

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

I just wish you would read what accyman said and I was replying to, he has rung the council numerous times over the last few weeks and was never told that if he wanted to question councillors he had to put it in writing 5 DAYS prior to the meeting

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

Just seen today's Accy Observer & the council had backed down, the orange bag collections will continue. Hurrah seems that the council saw sense in the end.

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

thats odd as were supposed to be getting a separate bin now that is taken away on the same day as the refuse :confused:

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

Problems with the right hand and the left hand me thinks;)

Re: Anyone have clinical waste collection?
 

well iv read the newspaper article and it totally contradicts what has happened

my self and others that i know of have now got a new bin with a brown lid ( appropriate or what lol) that is taken away with the black bin

the news article says 50 or 55 people effected but im pretty sure the number been thrown about earlier was 35 people so what is the true figure or was this a typo in the press ?

some smart arse i forget the name commented that scented bags disguise the smell which is not true because i used to use my childs nappy sacks when my clinical ones ran out and they made no difference.Besides that isnt the point we are provided with standard bags for the waste so would this person be prepared to pay for extra scented ones ?

The reason why there arnt hundreds of people on this system is that for the past few years it has been a system that has been phased out so that it wasnt taking on new people to have collections and the numbers needing the system got smaller as people either got better or died.

the article also says they had already discussed the proposal with the people on the list and only 1 or 2 had an issue.Wrong they did not discuss this with people on the list we got a letter put though our letter box telling us it was happening period or in my case no letter was received.If face must be saved please dont make out the few that were able or aware enough to complain are trouble makers.It took me over a week before i got through to someone who knew what the hell was going on so complaints were probably not taken into account as they either didnt reach the correct person or people gave up.Even the collections department said they had only just found out about this service stopping 1 week after this issue came up on here so even staff at HBC were not properly informed so how could they take peoples complaints or help them with concerns?

As far as i am aware if you need an extra bin for your clinical waste one will be provided so if you need or care for someone with health issues that produces clinical waste to go into the bin ring up and ask for the form to get an extra bin with a brown lid.

Just as a happy compromise is reached some Muppet opens their mouth to the press throwing more confusion and insult into the mix .

Thankyou for the extra bin but a lot of hassle could have been saved if things had been thought through properly and a little less rushing about trying to get everything sorted in 4 weeks