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My friends were at Asda earlier and when they were coming out all in-going traffic was stopped due to a car being in the lodge next door. Anybody know any more about it???

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Ya Bernie my Daughter said she'd a job getting out of the ASDA car park about 2-45 this aft, but she couldn't see what the problem was but there was defo some hardwear there

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Woman rescued from upside-down car in Accrington reservoir (From Lancashire Telegraph)
This appears to be the incident

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Thought it must have been serious, I was coming along Hyndburn Rd earlier, 2 fire engine's, 2 police cars, police van & an ambulance, thank god she got out alive, but would love to know how on earth she managed to end up in there in the 1st place.

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Riding the clutch on her automatic?

:hidewall:

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it was actually my partner that phoned for the emergency services when he was going into adsa he had to slam his brakes on as the woman turned into the first corner coming out ok then just carried on at the second corner mounted the pavement and went through the fence the car only just missed him and when he saw the back wheels go over he then got the emergency crew out as soon as he could and let other people know what had gone on someone managed to get down to the car and reassured the woman that help was on its way and as it was reported in the telegraph it wasnt the lodge it was the river

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Thanks

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seems like another instance of media garbage reporting,nowt new yon.:rolleyes: glad the woman is ok.

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Glad to hear the woman is ok, thanks for the info everyone:)

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Your a woman so you should have a fair idea :p:D

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Fence smashed, and temporary fencing put in it's place

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I'll bet they had to take some blokes off resurfacing that road to do that.

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How long before the doogooders start a petition on facebook to get the lodge drained because it contains that dangerous stuff water?

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Might seem a bit harsh this but, isn't it time she handed her licence in for her safety and the sake of everybody elses on the road?

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Phil, do you actually know the circumstances about why it happened? NO, so until you do i'd stop judging people if i where you

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Exactly, its easy to make assumptions about what happened, for all we know it could have been a fault with the car.

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coulda been a fault on the bloody road n'all

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Im with you on this one Phil, at 77 years of age her reactions are a lot slower than of someone 30, 40 etc years younger, what if someone was walking past at the time, they could have been pinned under the car in the water with her, when someone reaches 75 they have to renew their licence with DVLA, it should then be an automatic ban if they have any accidents. Before you all start jumping on the bandwagon I doubt very much there was anything wrong with the car, and are we all forgetting the tragic accident that killed Jackie Bloomer & her 18 month old son, again an elderly driver (89 yrs old) who had a heart attack at the wheel.

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There is no age limit on heart attacks, could happen to me as I drive up the M6 tonight

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:rolleyes:

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I am not inviting you to my funeral now :p

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:rolleyes:

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So you think it is fair to remove the licence of someone purely on grounds of age?

And just because you doubt there were any faults with the car doesn't mean there weren't. I am sure the situation will be fully investigated.

Older drivers usually have more experience. drive within speed limits, and know their limitations.

This lady may never return to driving again.......she may be put off by the trauma she has gone through.

Every case should be judged on its own merits...and by people who know the full facts.
You will be this age yourself one day...if you are lucky enough.

And I haven't forgotten Jackie Bloomer and her son. It was a tragic accident...could not be forseen...she happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The Jackie Bloomer accident is exactly what I mean. How many times do hear on the news that a pensioner has driven the wrong way down the motorway?

In 2006 I came off my scooter because a pensioner was driving so slowly I was trying to over take her but couldn't quite execute the move. I ended up over taking her on my backside.

It won't be long before my father hands in his licence because his eyesight it getting worse and won't drive in the dark because of the other drivers headlights being too bright.

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You should have you license removed for making a dangerous manoeuvre.
You should not have tried to pass if you did not have enough space.

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I cant believe anyone would be stupid enough to think that was the driver of the cars fault and not yours :D:D:D

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A lot less than you hear about young drivers causing accidents.

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There is nothing wrong with handing in your licence if you feel you are no longer fit to drive. There is something wrong with being told ' you are over 75...time to hand in your licence'
How often do we hear of boy racers killing their friends? How often do we hear of younger people driving under the influence of alcohol? The answer to both of those questions is far more often than we hear of incidents like the Jackie Bloomer one...and the other incidents you quoted.

As for your accident, it seems you were in the wrong...you tried to overtake her but couldn't...why was that then...maybe it was because you made an error of judgement in trying to overtake in a place that was not safe....but you want the pensioner off the road for this.
I am a pensioner........I have had one accident in 35 years of driving......no penalty points.......many pensioners who still drive, do so because they want to retain some independence.
As we get older and our families move away we can become very isolated...but you want to increase our isolation....prevent us from being able to go out and about. It sometimes seems that we 'oldies' have lived too long for you young folk...you would like us out of the way....it says something for civilzation doesn't it?
I hope you live long enough to remember these words of yours.

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Might be a good idea if you backed out now!
Coming off your scooter because someone was going too slow? That takes some doing. Heaven knows what you'll be like when YOU'RE 75.

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This simply proves what some of us have been saying for years - shopping at ASDA is bad for your health. So don't go there; use the market instead.

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....or shop online so you don't have to place life and limb at risk from meeting impatient intolerant youths (or badly designed car parks):D

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Tealeaf, STOP trying to wind folk up!.

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I think the intellectual term you should have used after first being polite enough to quote Tealeafs post would be...

lol
:D

Stick to that and stop annoying the grown ups.
:)

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Well I actually think that when somebody reaches the age of 75 they should prove they are still road worthy, a bit like an MOT really, I know my father was still driving right up to when he died at the age of 83, but to be honest he was an accident waiting to happen, I begged him to stop driving, because he was getting dangerous on the roads. I refused to drive with him at the end, think what made my mind up was the first time he took me for an hospital appointment after the new traffic Island had been made at Guide and he went the wrong way round the roundabout, very very scary

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Me & my Mum were talking about this the other day, we said it may be a good idea when you get to a certain age that you re-take a test to show that you are still ok to drive.
Not a full driving test but maybe just a safty test in a way.

Saying that though if I took my full driving test now I may fail as we all get into "little habits" that could fail us now in a test.

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Well lets face it when your learning at first heth you only learn to pass a test, its when you've actually got the licence that you learn to drive;)

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That is very true John.

Road rage sets in aswell. :D

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In Italy this happens every time you have to renew your driving license -you have to have a medical visit which tests your hearing and sight (with and without glasses/with or without hearing aids -i wouldn't be allowed to drive without my glasses and it's written on the license) you have to declare any medical conditions you have and also what medication you are on. The time between renewals falls the older you get from every 10 yrs to every 5 yrs over 60 and every 3 yrs over 70.
There is now also a new law which means that any person who applies for their first license has to have a blood test to show they are not recreational drug users.

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I have experienced being a car passenger in Italy.
My ex's italian uncles took delight in successfully jumping red lights.
Fitness to drive is not solely dependant on good health, but it helps.

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I have to drive on the roads over here in the middle of all the Italians so i know what it's like, even though i can no longer do long distance driving, and I agree.
A little aside, I failed my test twice in the UK (the only exam i've ever failed!) so i have an Italian driving license which was easier to get 20-odd years back. The current test here is damnably hard and I doubt i'd pass it. My eldest son reckons i shouldn't be on the road but I've never had an accident in 23 yrs (touchwood) and he's wrecked 3 cars in 5 years...:eek:

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That is lack of experience and the feeling most youngsters seem to have, that they are immortal and indestructible.
Which is why I said in an earlier post it is not fair to assume that all drivers above a certain age are incompetent purely on an age basis.

I have had my driving licence since 1980.........surely experience has to count for something.

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it's not your driving that you have to watch though Marg, it's everyone else's

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Usually yes but I think a lot of it depends how often you drive. If your a nip to Asda on a Saturday then dont touch the car till next Saturday then maybe holding a license for 20 years does not mean your a good driver.

As I have got older I have become a calmer and slower driver but I still have lots of bad habits.

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My father learnt to drive in the Army, he was a very good drive, but as he got older, he did become dangerous Margaret, one of his main faults was creeping about in first gear, yes first gear, when he used to take me to hospital, he never got out of first gear until he reached New Lane, the engine was screaming, the problem was he was stone deaf and he couldn't hear it. But creeping about at 15 or 20 mile an hour isn't safe it just causes havoc for other road users

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I often drive through Ossy at 25, not in first though :D

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Ya its the chugging in first that makes you cringe Neil, ya can hear the gear box shouting for *^"> sake change up will ya :D

Passing your driving test doesn't instantly make you a good driver. Being a good driver takes years of practise. When you pass your test you can drive almost any car from a little 500cc Fiat to a Ferarri if you had the money.


The Goverment should introduce the same licensing rules as they do with motorcycles. If you're 17 you can drive upto a 124cc machine get to 25 and take the full test you drive anything from 49cc scooter right up to a Suzuki Huyabusa.

Back on topic I have no problems with pensioners driving but as you get older your reactions get slower.

They should be tested after a certain age to see if they are in a fit state to drive.

My dad is profoundly deaf and was driving buses till 1985 he is still driving today.

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I just think that calls for people to be tested or have their licences removed purely on age is not acceptable........you are right that good driving is about experience........and with experience comes the ability to drive within your limitations...you see potential hazards sooner and become a proactive driver rather than a reactive driver......this only comes with experience. Most of the people I know would hand in their licence of their own volition if they thought that they were no longer up to the task.

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I would be one of them Marg, if I felt that I was becoming a danger driving due to whatever reason I would stop driving straight away.

I couldnt live with myself if I'd harm anyone which could have been avoided.

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Ya I thought that Margaret, but nobody likes to admit they're no longer up to it, because they never think they are, I often think I'm still young and active, until reality kicks in, especially when I look at the bloke in the mirror every morning who I don't recognise:rolleyes:

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John......in respect of some things I know we all like to think we are young.......but if you find yourself making mistakes, or you begin to feel unsure or nervous about driving then you have to reassess your abilities.
There is an older guy in our street who drove very well until a few years ago.......he became scared of going out in his car, he said that the increase in the volume of traffic made him nervous, so he did what he thought was right, he sold it and gave up driving.

My next door neighbour is 79 and he still drives......he is competent and courteous, and has been driving all kinds of vehicle for almost 60 years.
I am sure he knows his capabilities and I have no doubt he would call it a day if he thought he was not safe to drive.

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Today I gave my car to my son for family use.
I passed my test at age 22, and at nearly 69 I thought it was time to call it a day.
In 46 years of driving I got two speeding tickets and one parking ticket.
I have done so little driving in the past three years that I have lost my confidence, and other road users just make driving a nerve wrecking experience that I can well do without.

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Margaret Ive been driving for 7 years & im 42 (nearly) and your right, there are so many lunatics on the road these days, and it highlights it with the programme thats been on channel 4 (think it was) over the last few weeks. The idiots that dont indicate, fly up to a junction so you dont think there gonna stop & smash into you. Taxi's just pull out on you, the list is endless, and its only gonna get worse. Well done you for all the years of safe driving :)

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Funny enough thats a conversation we had tother day, were ok yet,but both of us have said it will probably get to a point where confidence aint what it should be n we both said we will do the same, good on yer, shame a few more thats still driving dont do the same - Dingbats.

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I think you can blame the second part on the first.
I drive quite a lot and yes there are idiots on the road but there has always been idiots on the road.

I saw a car pull from the slip road in front of a articulated wagon tonight while travelling a lot slower than the wagon. They only do 60 so its not hard to either accelerate above 60 before joining the motorway or pull in behind him. This was not a young driver but an older bloke by the way.

As I was on the roundabout getting onto the M65 a very expensive new large car was happily cutting across his lane into mine without a thought for me.

The world is full of idiots and you just have to be aware of the dangers and do your best to stay safe.

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I agree there have always been road idiots - just now there are more drivers, and so more idiots, so that on every trip you see at least one.

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Know a little how you feel.

Last month felt unsafe, for the first time ever. Never drove again, and sold my car, shortly after.

Was sad. Felt sorry for myself. Drove since I was seventeen. My bit of independence.

Couldn't have lived with myself, if I hurt anyone else, because of the Parkinson's. Fine if I drove myself into a wall.

Where the car was, now stands a fantastic bird house, bought with some of the car money.

Don't be sad.

Be happy you were strong enough to know you're own mind, and make the right decision...for you. x

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True n becoming a mod aint changed yeh.:D

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I suspect thats why I got the position, I can relate to the other idiots on the forum :p

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Touche.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Margaret I applaud you, I only wish my Father had take your stance, I gave up driving 16 years ago because of medication and my eyesight was failing through cataracts, I had the cataracts removed in 2002, but decided not to bother taking to the road again I just carried on using taxis

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Ya just one of the boys Neil:D