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heth 20-09-2011 13:01

Shopping vouchers for Recycling
 
Here you go, start doing more recycling and if we hit the target we get shopping vouchers in 2013!!

Supermarket voucher incentive for Hyndburn recyclers (From Lancashire Telegraph)

So hope your all gonna buy more to recycle more! :rolleyes:

garinda 20-09-2011 13:23

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 934985)
Here you go, start doing more recycling and if we hit the target we get shopping vouchers in 2013!!

Supermarket voucher incentive for Hyndburn recyclers (From Lancashire Telegraph)

So hope your all gonna buy more to recycle more! :rolleyes:

I'm with the opposition on this one.

Not being a supermarket shopper, I'll bin mine...in my white sack.

A scheme that will increase footfall in the supermarkets, whilst our small independent businesses are struggling to survive?

No thanks.

heth 20-09-2011 13:35

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Exactly G, thats what I thought.

I cannot possibly recycle any more than what I do so why they telling us to do more?

cashman 20-09-2011 13:35

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i shop at supermarkets as well as small traders, but don't think its fair,so not fer me.

Mick 20-09-2011 13:47

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 934991)
i shop at supermarkets as well as small traders, but don't think its fair,so not fer me.

Just because you cant use them for your bananas at farmfoods :D
mind you there will be no farmfoods soon
i am with cashy on this i do use the supermarket (tesco)only for stuff i cant get at the market or small shop locally but do most of my shopping on the market and small traders.

garinda 20-09-2011 13:48

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 934990)
Exactly G, thats what I thought.

I cannot possibly recycle any more than what I do so why they telling us to do more?

'If' peoples' taxes are to be paid as bribes, encouraging residents to recycle more than they do already, the suggestion in the Telegraph, that the vouchers were to be spent on the market, is a better idea.

At least the town's businesses would benefit, rather than the shareholders of the big supermarket chains.

That million quid (+) bung Tesco paid the council is certainly paying dividends for them.

heth 20-09-2011 14:02

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Yes that will be much better if the vouchers were for smaller businesses in the town.

It may also boost these traders as some people would come away from shopping at Supermarkets when they see what other traders are selling in the town.

Makes more sense.

Taggy 20-09-2011 14:24

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Yep i'm another one who agrees that the vouchers should be for use with the smaller traders of the Town & on the market, perhaps another Facebook petition might prove successfull ?? I cant organise it...but i'd support it!

Best Regards - Taggy

Gordon Booth 20-09-2011 14:24

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There's something in the LT article which doesn't read clearly.
'The authority would be also be negotiating with supermarkets to see which ones offered the best deals'. Surely a £10 voucher gets you £10 worth of goods?
Or does it mean which supermarket will CHARGE the council the least to run the scheme? So the supermarket gets the custom and charges for the service as well!
What is the £39,000 for? To set up the scheme? Explanation needed.
Why can't the council simply send a voucher to each household which can be used at any participating shop, store, stall or supermarket? Then ALL who wish to can benefit.
More explanation of this scheme is needed.

heth 20-09-2011 14:39

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Yeah Gordon I read that like the way you did.

£10 voucher = £10 worth of shopping..........simple to me??

I am sure that the money being spent can change the vouchers to a "any shop" voucher?

There seems to be time to ask the local traders in the town to ask if they are interested in taking part?

Tealeaf 20-09-2011 14:41

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This is crazy. Other than newspapers & mags, what goes into your recycling bags? It's packaging! Who are the worse culprits for unneccessary packaging? The supermarkets! So now the ratepayers of Hyndburn are going to financially reward the likes of ASDA & Tesco in order that arbitary targets can be met by the local binmen, while in the process even more rubbish is supplied from the same culprits.

This is the economics of the madhouse.

Caz 20-09-2011 14:47

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So the only ones who are going to recycle more are the ones that already do so. Unlikely to encourage those that don't bother, surely, because they know they are going to get their vouchers anyway if the targets are met by others? :confused:

Michael1954 20-09-2011 14:52

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I won't say no to a voucher to get £10 off my shopping, but it would be fairer if they could be used at the smaller local traders as well as the big supermarkets.

heth 20-09-2011 15:24

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What happens to all the recycling that gets blown away in the bad weather onto the street?? Is the bad weather the residents fault?

The recycling guys do not pick it up so that wont be counted, maybe if it were picked up we would hit the target?

Eric 20-09-2011 16:13

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 935010)
This is crazy. Other than newspapers & mags, what goes into your recycling bags? It's packaging! Who are the worse culprits for unneccessary packaging? The supermarkets! So now the ratepayers of Hyndburn are going to financially reward the likes of ASDA & Tesco in order that arbitary targets can be met by the local binmen, while in the process even more rubbish is supplied from the same culprits.

This is the economics of the madhouse.

Agreed ... not much has changed since Vance Packard wrote The Waste Makers in 1960. Now our supermarkets are charging 15 cents for plastic bags:eek: And if you look on their shelves you will see that the real waste makers are the supermarkets and the food packaging companies, much of the stuff they sell is packaged in, guess what, plastic:rolleyes: .... PCism again ... load the burden of recycling onto the consumer:mad: Make the consumer feel responsible. This idea sounds cute; but the effect will be to increase the profits of private sector marketing giants. Like they need the money, eh.

accyman 20-09-2011 16:42

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good to see theres still plenty of money to be handed out on stupid gimmicks while other services get cut :mad:

jaysay 20-09-2011 17:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934987)
I'm with the opposition on this one.

Not being a supermarket shopper, I'll bin mine...in my white sack.

A scheme that will increase footfall in the supermarkets, whilst our small independent businesses are struggling to survive?

No thanks.

Spot on Rindi one thing we totally agree on

jaysay 20-09-2011 17:47

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 935015)
What happens to all the recycling that gets blown away in the bad weather onto the street?? Is the bad weather the residents fault?

The recycling guys do not pick it up so that wont be counted, maybe if it were picked up we would hit the target?

To be fair heath the new recycling sacks have now a velcro sealing strip on them to stop paper blowing about, but how many people will bother to seal the sacks before they put them out for collection:rolleyes:

garinda 20-09-2011 19:09

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When I lived in Wandsworth in London, even though the council tax was the lowest in Britain, if we voluntarily recycled, what we paid in local income tax was reduced even further.

Vouchers off council tax bills for recycling, would probably have a better reception as an idea.

:rolleyes:

garinda 20-09-2011 19:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 935040)
Spot on Rindi one thing we totally agree on

Stop saying that.

Everyone knows you really agree with every single thing I say.

:rolleyes::D

Neil 20-09-2011 20:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 935067)
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 935040)
Spot on Rindi one thing we totally agree on

Stop saying that.......

Does he think you are a bus driver? :confused::D

wallop79 20-09-2011 21:29

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 935033)
good to see theres still plenty of money to be handed out on stupid gimmicks while other services get cut :mad:

Exactly my thoughts too Accyman, but one thing I think we're all forgetting, petrol, food, electric, gas all had massive increases or going to increase, council tax will probably go up next year too, so £10.00 wit bloody woo, maybe £10.00 per week would be an incentive for me to pick the litter up left behind when the binmen cant be arsed to pick it up, personally I couldn't recycle anymore if I tried.

lancsdave 20-09-2011 21:56

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934994)
'If' peoples' taxes are to be paid as bribes, encouraging residents to recycle more than they do already, the suggestion in the Telegraph, that the vouchers were to be spent on the market, is a better idea.

.


I'd go further and say you can only spend the vouchers at small local businesses who are residents of Hyndburn :)

Neil 21-09-2011 07:22

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 935009)
Yeah Gordon I read that like the way you did.

£10 voucher = £10 worth of shopping..........simple to me??

I am sure that the money being spent can change the vouchers to a "any shop" voucher?

There seems to be time to ask the local traders in the town to ask if they are interested in taking part?

If I walked into Tesco with £39,000 to buy Tesco shopping vouchers to give out to residents I think Tesco would sell them for less than face value to stop me going to Asda and buying them.

It would be a great way for Tesco to get new customers into the shop. What other advertiser campaign has the possibility of getting every household to visit the shop?

lancsdave 21-09-2011 08:04

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It's not really a new idea is it. For the past few years various members of the community have been helping the council with metal recyclcing and spending the proceeds at various local retail outlets :rolleyes:

jaysay 21-09-2011 08:53

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 935067)
Stop saying that.

Everyone knows you really agree with every single thing I say.

:rolleyes::D

No I don't, I only say that when you agree with me:p:p:D

jaysay 21-09-2011 08:54

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 935085)
Does he think you are a bus driver? :confused::D

Na that one went right over my head Neil:confused::confused::confused:

heth 21-09-2011 16:02

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 935128)
If I walked into Tesco with £39,000 to buy Tesco shopping vouchers to give out to residents I think Tesco would sell them for less than face value to stop me going to Asda and buying them.

It would be a great way for Tesco to get new customers into the shop. What other advertiser campaign has the possibility of getting every household to visit the shop?


Yeah I know what you are saying but really the council should want people to go into the town centre and support local traders.

lancsdave 21-09-2011 17:00

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Here's a novel idea, instead of the council buying vouchers how about they spend it on wages picking up the recycling when the collectors have been round :D

JCB 21-09-2011 17:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 935066)
When I lived in Wandsworth in London, even though the council tax was the lowest in Britain, if we voluntarily recycled, what we paid in local income tax was reduced even further.

Vouchers off council tax bills for recycling, would probably have a better reception as an idea.

:rolleyes:

I agree . If we are to be given brownie points then let it be a reduction in council tax .

Neil 21-09-2011 19:44

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 935205)
I agree . If we are to be given brownie points then let it be a reduction in council tax .

There may be rules about what the money can be used for.

Margaret Pilkington 21-09-2011 19:52

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I have been recycling for as long as I can remember.
There isn't an envelope that comes through my door that doesn't get used for shopping lists or reminders....then when it has outlived its usefulness in that department...it goes in the paper sack.

I cannot think of any ways to recycle that I am not already using......I just wish that these supermarkets would take some responsibility and not give us over packaged goods.

I don't want supermarket vouchers. I would rather the money be used to keep local services going.


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