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Perhaps he indicated 'sounds like', and grabbed his crotch.

:eek:

Or perhaps he mimed the whole thing.

Pointing to his head, and rotating his finger, and then mimed pulling on some udders.

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Beside the racist aspect of this why is the Council encouraging them to pull out of the Town Centre?

I would have expected the Council to be encouraging business, companies, advice agencies and whoever else to move into the town centre? :mad:

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As witnessed by the closure of the tourist information centre in the Town Hall on Saturdays, this doesn't seem a particularly high priority.

Odd that's been closed to save money, yet funding can be found for the B.M.E. centre on Hannah St.

Along with the removal of benches, for people to use, who may need a place to sit.

It doesn't particularly give a welcoming reception to visitors to the town centre.

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'The Hyndburn BME Forum has been consulted on this proposal and has offered its full support.'

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...e_Services.pdf

That's good news for the council then.

At least they have some support for what they've done.

Even if all the residents associations listed in the Observer don't agree.

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Well the record does seem to have been stuck for 18 months now, Hate Peter, Hate Peter, Hate Peter, Hate Peter;)

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I believe Herns do a good line in butties Neil:rolleyes:

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He will cope - he loves himself enough to redress the balance.:rolleyes:

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A cutback of £22,000 on a service that is to end is finding funding?

I ask again, why did the Britcliffe administration not simply end the service themselves?

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It is a council service, no one is encouraging anyone to move out of the town centre.

Out of interest, how many of those who are now 'discriminated against' used it before?

It has been open to the public for some little time....

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See previous post, re: two wrongs not making a right.

I'll ask again. Why are the council funding organisations that discriminate against people because of race and ethnicity?

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Maybe they could get a good deal ;)


I do like to lighten the atmosphere a little when needed :D

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Don't know.

Could it be the use of the term Black & Ethnic Minority?

Or perhaps the staffing at the centre, which make people think it's not inclusive of all residents?

Scaitcliffe Community Centre

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And I'll say again that they aren't.

The advice service is being moved to the Scaitcliffe Centre, something which is open to all and always has been. The 'funding' as it has been called is to pay for a part time member of staff to run the service, just as it always has been at Cannon Street. In just over two years it will cease as it will have no practical function.

Let me put it this way, a recent idea to cut a service which helped around 55 people per month was blasted as unfair. A decision now to phase out a service that helps over 1,500 per year is also unfair.

We all pay for services that we don't personally use, should we stop them all?

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As he's listed as a member of staff at the centre, did Cllr. Dad support the relocation?

:rolleyes:

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The only people bringing the term BME to the table are those who feel that they are being discriminated against somehow. The same argument could be levelled at Scaitcliffe House, staffed predominantly by caucasians although it doesn't seem to stop residents of all creeds coming to the building.

I also note that the well-known BME resident Doreen Pollitt is Chair of the Scaitcliffe Centre.

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Sorry, you might as well talk to a brick wall.

You will never convince me that tax payers' money should be spent funding any organisation, that by it's name and nature, is both discriminatory, and divisive.

Be that gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, or whatever else the trendy liberal elite think would benefit from positive discrimination.

We have laws that protect against discrimination.

Positive discrimination stinks.

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The website could do with updating then. As came out during the Scrutiny process, Cllr Dad is not a member of the Scaitcliffe Centre staff any more.

Cllr Dobson is paid a healthy management fee for his co-consultancy at the Hyndburn Community Resource Centre on Cannon Street and yet the O&S Committee (of which I am Chair) found that the work he does is cost efficient.

One thing I have learned is that anything can look suspicious if you don't have all the facts.

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Nuff said

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Er...according to the council's download, regarding the relocation, the term B.M.E. was raised when H.B.C. consulted the Hyndburn Black & Ethnic Minority Forum, who apparently gave the proposal their full support.

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na won't know about it, its only us that have to read the crap over and over and over and over again;)

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What did the Hyndburn White & Non-Ethnic Forum say, when you consulted them?

:rolleyes:

What?

There isn't one?

That would be racist?

:eek:

Fair enough.

:rolleyes:

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Start one.

I'll happily champion your cause should any fuss be kicked up.

There you go, a public promise from a Hyndburn Councillor.

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No.

As stated earlier, two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't believe in discriminating against anyone along lines of race, or ethnicity.

Unlike H.B.C.

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9 pages and im not a big reader but would the jist of things be that a service that was available to all has been scrapped to fund a service that is specificly for asians and other blacks.

If so i would have walked out in disgust before i puked.

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No, the service remains exactly the same as it was, it is just in a different building in order to save £22,000 per year. Give them a ring on 01254 386285 and ask for yourself.

The service is for all Hyndburn residents but will end in 2014.

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well with a name like Black & Ethnic Minority centre surely you can understand how it dosnt appear to be a service for everyone .

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Is isn't called that, it's called the Scaitcliffe Centre.

The service that is moving is the Community Advice Centre, which in times long past at Cannon Street was called the Asian Advice Centre and no one batted an eyelid.

Nothing is changing apart from the cost to council which, as I've already stated, will not go beyond 2014.

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'We were successful with our funding bid to Neighbourhood Renewal Fund (NRF) transitional funds for £21,500.00 to continue my post as a development coordinator for year 2006/07 (fulltime).'
- Munsif Dad JP
Development Coordinator SCC

http://www.scaitcliffecc.com/report.pdf

Since apparently the Scaitcliffe Community Centre's website is showing outdated information, who's the recipient of the salary for being the centre's Development Coordinator now?

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we ARE the ethnic minority now, didn't you know that?

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Groove cant be bothered with local politics, he finds all local councellors and MP's etc absolutely abhorent and thinks they are more interested in getting the publicity they crave to inflate their already massive egos...he thinks they're a waste of space and should be hung from a tree in Oak Hill Park

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It might be confusing people, the Hyndburn & Ribble Valley Black & Minority Ethnic Forum's address being the Scaitcliffe Community Centre, on Hannah Street.

Hyndburn & Ribble Valley BME Forum

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Why is grove not acting like a normal member and posting in normal text instead of third party novel speak;)

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because after many early mornings with my youngest the only thing that comes to mind is that this fella is posting lol :D

http://www.channel4.com/learning/mic...its/groove.gif

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I think it would be beneficial to encourage councillors to come on here Groove. Your comments reflect someone with a lot of problems who doesn't know how to resolve them in an adult manner.

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He's a politician??:rolleyes:

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Can't be....he says he abhors politicians;).

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I want all Councillors to log in but i thought it is obvious they will be put off by abusive posts containing inneundo or insults. Stands to reason they aren't interested.

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Graham, if they feel that they are being insulted/abused there is a little button which allows them to report a post.
I would think that during their political life they had grown a thick enough skin to cope with insults. I really didn't think our local politicians were so very delicate.

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Ahh, I see. Like the observation by a one-time HBC Labour councillor that all Tories were a shower of sh**te. A post he hastily deleted but not before some of us saw it.:rolleyes:

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Margaret, you have always been a firm but fair poster and I respect your viewpoint. Censorship is the last thing because it indicates a breakdown. I accept though there will always be people who have lost an argument and go personal.

At the St Christophers event the last questioner lambasted (to a huge roar) Peter and Marlene for engaging in slagging others off continually without any intelligent arguments to support their answer.

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Graham, you know when you are passionate about something it is very easy to run off at the mouth....but Accyweb seems to be like a family in that respect....you can argue like billy-ho.....and let's face it when families argue it does get personal.......there are many of us on here who, while we get passionate about a subject, we can respect another persons viewpoint.....and I think that most councillors would be able to stand their corner without any difficulty....if they can't, then I would respectfully suggest a change of career direction.

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at that event.

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Besides this quite pathetic post, which only an idiot would give credence to, I can't recall too many personal 'inneundo or insults' recently, aimed at anyone imparticular, other than ones aimed at Cllr. Britcliffe...in this very thread.

As was pointed out, if rules are broken, and politicans are unfairly attacked, just like every other member, there's a report button, and the moderators can and will deal with the matter.

Being burdened with an excellent memory, I can recall a couple of years ago what could be called 'innuendo and insults' being bandied about. With some members using such tactics against those they saw as their political foes.

Some of those were definitely innuendo strewn insults.

I'm often suprised when others don't quite have the same recall, when it comes to what has happened in the past.

Odd that.

:rolleyes:

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:I missed that one:eek::eek::eek::D

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If that was me (and it may have been) it was clearly frustration at the way the Borough was being run down and out of as you say, not very endearing.

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As I said Graham, when the passion is in full flow....none of us are immune from making rash comments.
It happens, but it only goes to illustrate how dearly our views are held.

Walking out on a discussion, disagreement, argument...what ever you want to call it, is never the right thing to do(unless, that is, the situation is likely to become physical).....it is always better to try and get your point across and come to some sort of compromise or agreement.

I can see that, in this situation, that would hardly have been possible as the views were so far apart.

However, it seems like the economic arguments for the proposal were largely ignored by Councillor Britcliffe....despite the fact that very few non ethnics had used the service that is to be moved....and also that this service would still be available to non ethnics albeit in an ethnic community setting.

I would question whether there would be some mileage in using one of the many empty properties in town for this service........even the market hall has empty places.
Maybe it is something that can still be worked out, without the need for the histrionics displayed at the meeting.

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I can remember you once saying on here that all Tory councillors were a waste of space, I think if I remember rightly I asked you to repeat that comment to Cllr Brian Walmsley's face, to my knowledge can't remember you doing that;)

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I can't recall that but if you say it did happen then it may have. I believe the town has wasted £100m in the last decade and missed its golden chance. Not because of poor policy decisions but because of a 'corrupt way of doing business'. I am passionate about changing things, the Borough has lost out we cannot put wrongs right, we are we are.

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I remember 2002/3 Graham, nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more.

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Groove posts how he likes and beleives others should do the same. Groove never comments about Jaysays inane attempts at humour in many of his posts even though they are as funny as a council tax demand.

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http://www.smileyshut.com/Smoking/sm...nnabis-034.gif

Just say no - YouTube

;)

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It reminds me very much of another member on here who posted in the third person.......he didn't post much of any worth, and I fear, Groove that the same could be said of you too.
I find your posts irritating.........and when talking of Jaysay and his attempts at humour, methinks you need to take the clod out of your own eye before trying to remove the speck from Jaysay's.
It is coming pretty close to RED.

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Well we think that Rut should grow up or it maybe better for him/her if he/her became a member of Bebo, more in keeping with his/her childishness:thefinger

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You are only stressed because you don't know who it it is :D

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Neil I don't want to know who the divvy is:p

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Does it matter who it is Neil?

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Groove thinks its ironic how Garinda brings up things from Grooves past yet waits in anticipation for a remark to himself in which he can play the race card.

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Groove, can you perhaps post something that makes some sense? Your last post does not fit that category.

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Shush.

Enjoy the anticipation.

The 'race card' is going to be played.

I wonder if it's like playing the joker on It's a Knockout, and you get the chance to double your points?

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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G, you forget I am getting old.......and impatient. Life is far to short to wait for something which is sooooo disappointing.

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Noticed somewhere that this guy said he'd had trouble with illegal substances, I always said this stuff sends you round the twist eventually, think this proves my point:D:D and play the Race Card :D:D:D:D

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okay okay...groove has been out of order here and would like to apologise to all members iv upset...sorry again, hope this can blow over....thanks and sorry again

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Groove, I will accept your apology when you stop talking in the third person.
It makes your posts confusing to read because you slip from third person to first person.
I am not against originality, as long as the message in the post doesn't get lost because of it.

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Groove will bare this in mind Margaret...oops, iv done it again...it was just an attempt to add a little humour and originality to posts, thats all.

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Yes, I thought that was what it was, but you are original, your opinions are original, you do not need to add artifice.

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Point taken Margaret, and thankyou.

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You are most welcome Groove.

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Fair enough.

When you post should be hung from trees, hopefully you can understand how this would cause offence.

Apology accepted.

Let's move on.

:mosher:

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No problem from Me Grove, apology excepted, join in with the rest of us

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"Join in with the rest of us":confused: Whatever happened to "Welcome to the asylum." :D

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Not to me no but it appears to matter to some on here.

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It doesn't matter to me either.

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Hoy there not all daft as slaver:D

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Thanks everybody:)

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Your welcome groove old buddy:D:D

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I enjoyed Groove's third person posts .... was different and eccentric ... coloured up the forum I thought. :)

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But he couldn't maintain it Kate. Kept slipping into first person.
I thought it detracted from the subject of the post, but then, what do I know?

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Groove is glad that Katex enjoys his third person posts and also thinks it adds something different to the forum.

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One is happy that Groove is glad and that Katex enjoys his posts; in future, one may use the Royal 'we' when making one's posts.

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Now Katex is in the mire with other members for prompting Groove to return to this format. She will now watch her green squares turn to red.
She also thinks that Groove will tire of this and return to the first person, even though practice will have made perfect.

Also, she will probably be in more trouble with Admin. for carrying on with this thread wander.. :D

As for the walk out by Cllr. Britcliffe, on information submitted by Cllr.Moss, does appear that the aforesaid acted in a churlish way and would have been more productive of him to stand his ground to offer officially his objections.

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Kate I think you might be on your own in your enjoyment of his 'unique' way of posting.
Personally, I find it tedious and contrived....and that is the polite phrase for it.

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Garinda's having one of those dead skin eating fishy pedicures, but has asked me to relay a message.

Garinda thought it was odd when UsedToBeKingHBC first posted in the third person singular, and still does.

Garinda is always reminded of the film Sybil, and fears that some might be waving bye-bye to sanity.

Mavis Davis.
(On behalf of Garinda.)

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ipsJ3F21L4abWg

:D

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Mavis seems to talk a lot of sense maybe she should stand in for Garinda more often;):rolleyes::D:p

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Groove would like to point out to Margaret that this is a free forum and he can post whatever he likes as long as it is not offensive or inflammatory to other users or anything else really. He thinks his posts are neither of these and is quite bemused at Margarets disdain for his method of posting. The novelty of this 3rd person speak may indeed wear off in time but until then Groove thinks Margo should chill out a bit and live and let live.

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Groove would like to alert Garinda that certain BBV's (blood bourne virus's) can be transmitted by this latest fad.

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What happened to the big apology the other day ya divvy

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i know who Groove reminds me of now, Dobby the house Elf from Harry Potter

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Groove apologised Jaysay for any offense he may have caused to yourself and others with his slightly caustic remarks. He didnt apologise for his manner of speaking. Groove thinks Jaysay now owes him an apology for calling him a 'divvy' for the 2nd time. But Groove wont hold this against Jaysay as he thinks life is too short to bare grudges.

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Groove does'nt know wether to be offended of flattered by flash's comment.

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Obviously either too thick or too stoned for it to matter;)

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Groove thinks Jaysay is becoming a cyber bully.

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MargaretR agrees - karma due :D

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Firstly, I am Margaret, not Margo.

I did not express any disdain for your method of posting....and you are perfectly correct in your assumptions that you can post what you like, in any manner you like(except text speak, the rules forbid this) as long as you abide by the rules which you clearly stated.

What I did say, was that I personally, do not like your method of third person, and I stated clearly why I didn't like it. You may think it adds novelty to your posts......and you are entitled to hold whatever opinion you like. I think your posting is tedious,contrived and detracts for the subject matter of the post. That is my opinion, to which I am entitled.

I think you will find that I am one of the more moderate,and balanced posters on here, have been here a long time and have seen new members crash and burn for less.

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True - but sad

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Well, he can't say he wasn't warned.

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Jaysay thinks Groove should get a life

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You forget that the mods are evil dictators and can always remove or edit a post using this bit in the rules

:p:p:p:p

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I was sad when Dobby died.


At least he died a free elf

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Groove seems to be a talented diversionary:uzi: -he's certainly kept everyone off thread here for the last 4 pages.... and not only here.

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Garinda doesn't have blood.
So no need to pass this information on.
Mavis Davis.